Sigineer Power Off-Grid Solar Inverter 2500 W with MPPT Charger

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DavidPoz

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Review of a transformer based hybrid inverter. Made by Sigineer Power. This is a 2500 watt inverter with a MPPT Solar Charge Controller. It's an all in one unit making building an off grid system super simple. This is also a 48 volt DC battery based system. Output: 120 volts AC.
I'm excited for this transformer based inverter because it can handle large surges. Making it perfect for tools and compressors.
This is not the most efficient inverter on the market, but it's a great price for being an all-in one unit. Retail price is $529 as of this video. Shipping to the US is $150 USD. www.sigineer.c...
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@bobcalder724
@bobcalder724 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.... complete the demonstration with the remote gen start and how much current from the solar array can you input? This looks like a simple solution for a remote cabin to start power tools and keep a fridge running ..
@fisherus
@fisherus 4 жыл бұрын
Is that a great surprise? Never seen you exude so much pleasure watching your saw start. So many disappointments in previous attempts. Congratulations to a great accomplishment and find. Loved this video. Your reaction is priceless!
@terrya6486
@terrya6486 4 жыл бұрын
Nice your really getting in the demo of equipment. Now we need to try out the YIYEN 18,000 watt split phase coming out soon !
@chucktrotter9699
@chucktrotter9699 4 жыл бұрын
4.25.20 Great video David. Was real impressed when using the saw and vacuum. Yes please do another video on using the USB to hook up to something. Thanks again.
@michaeljgraff
@michaeljgraff 4 жыл бұрын
if anything these shows the resiliency of the normal electric grid. Thanks for the great videos david. Makes me really want to make a setup like yours.
@sicardmd
@sicardmd 4 жыл бұрын
David, I devour these kind of shows, just for the little things I learn. It brought a smile each time I saw you get excited when a shop tool started on the low frequency inverter. Good luck! And thank you for taking the time to make these videos.
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comment. I've had my share of inverters not be able to handle the power tools, so I love when it works.
@ValleyMustang
@ValleyMustang 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah David what this guy said 👍
@danielwilson2109
@danielwilson2109 4 жыл бұрын
I can tell just by looking at that unit it looks like its heavier duty than most, especially for only rated at 2500w and the cable is so slightly over rated, nice to see. Great video as always david! Keep it up
@Madsci-zy8wm
@Madsci-zy8wm 11 ай бұрын
Yes, you are absolutely correct. Low frequency, transformer based inverter/charger offer a much higher peak power capacity and a far longer life expectancy than cheap, lightweight high frequency inverters. And by the way, we've done some extensive testing on the Sigineer brand of low frequency inverters and found them to be an excellent product.
@evertking1
@evertking1 8 ай бұрын
So you would recommend one over a EG4 6000xp
@GapRecordingsNamibia
@GapRecordingsNamibia 4 жыл бұрын
Hey David! Good video Mate, just giving my 2c worth. On the scope. I would expect to see a great deal of noise or ripple when starting something like the high current miter saw. There are a few reasons I say this, 1: you are the only user on this small little "grid", 2: because the "grid" is so small in capacity it does not have the capacity to be able to deal with heavy loaded start up's that cause allot of noise or ripple current (also akin to back EMF). If you do the same test on your national or municipal grid you'll still see noise but it should be allot less because of the megawatt current capacity of the grid, then, the other houses on your phase or phases if you have 1, 2 or 3 phases would help to soak up allot of the noise generated by your saw or ac compressor that by the way also creates a huge amount of noise or ripple current, there are a few factors that carry over to this. The one reason I would say that the inverter is so "loud" is I think because of the use of an "E" type transformer and not a toroidal core, the Victron uses two of them 220Vac 5Kw and is virtually silent. None the less for a budget buy that is not a bad option for a low cost setting, you were at one stage pulling 3,3Kw on the AC side which for a 2,5Kw unit is not bad at all that is basically 3/4 of a Kw over what is should handle. Good review!
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. That makes me feel a little better about my Scope setup.
@mexicanracer03
@mexicanracer03 4 жыл бұрын
I've been looking at these for a while but haven't pulled the trigger due to not knowing enough about them. Thanks #DavidPOZ for the great info
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
I hope it helped you decide one way or the other.
@mexicanracer03
@mexicanracer03 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidPozEnergy not their yet. How does the MPPT look? Can you make a continuation? I do live that it starts the miter saw. This adds tremendous creditability to the performance and hopefully it will start the 2 air-cons on the house.
@av1204
@av1204 4 жыл бұрын
More details the better! It allows us to decide if we want to buy one. I really like the MPPT from your friend. I will be building an offgrid system with 3 of those.
@aaronberger1853
@aaronberger1853 4 жыл бұрын
~165 watt draw at idle seems terrible for modern inverter specs. Was that noise as annoying in person as it came through in the video? I was actually looking at getting this exact inverter from Sigineer for use as a UPS for my server/network while using as much solar power as possible to offset usage (no net metering or utility company interaction required). That would probably be the best configuration for this inverter if you can set it to fail over to utility power when the battery is depleted. I'd like to see if you could set it up that way.
@keyronruddock9770
@keyronruddock9770 4 жыл бұрын
Hey frist time checking in, like the inverter but that sound is problem, like the fack that It took the load that was applied to
@Bennyboy-dog
@Bennyboy-dog 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to point out the same things - low efficiency and that bloody noise. I figured it out though - the 165W goes towards creating that noise - now all they have to do at Sigineer is tune it towards making music rather than buzzing noise. I suspect they need to do more work on bonding the laminations in that huge transformer.
@andycanfixit
@andycanfixit 4 жыл бұрын
I went with a pair of the Growatt inverters, 3kw each, can be paired for split phase or to boost power for single phase. They are pretty quiet, no buzz, just a bit of fan noise depending on how hard they are working at either inverting or pulling power from the pv array. The usb software is not great but the wifi dongle and it's app work very well with detailed stats. You can set them a few different ways so that it'll switch back to grid at a certain low battery voltage or if there is no pv being generated. I have mine set to charge from only solar and on a sunny day by 9:30 the battery is high enough that it stops pulling power from the grid and runs everything off the solar and stored power in the batteries till about 8:15 at night when its dark enough that there is no pv voltage coming in and then it switches back to the grid. I have about 8kwh of storage right now connected with a 4kw array currently and by the time it switches back to the grid i've still got 5-6kwh remaining in the batteries for any power outages. If the power goes out it switches to the batteries just like a ups with no impact on the computers running. I have a 12,000btu mini split unit and an 18,000 btu mini split and a 6,000 btu window unit all on the two inverters, my fridge, 3 chest freezers, my washer and gas dryer, 3 computers, home theater, two ceiling fans and the lights in half my house on my pair of inverters and basically on a sunny day I pull nothing from the power company for almost 12 hours of the day. The mini splits are 240 volt, everything else is 120 volt. Each inverter can take up to 4500 watts of solar. If a storm is coming through I can switch them to charge from the grid and solar, it'll charge from solar first and then top off with the grid at the end of the day so the batteries are full should a storm hit. They cannot feed back to the grid so there is no issue there since I lack net metering as well. I've not tested them with high draw loads like a miter saw because as rarely as I use such I just power those from the grid. The cost a couple hundred more than this inverter but they have no buzz and have a pretty low standby draw. They are a high frequency design.
@1981dasimpson
@1981dasimpson 4 жыл бұрын
i think you could prob use the gen feed to trigger a relay for mains input if it want auto charge when low if solar is not upto it
@GapRecordingsNamibia
@GapRecordingsNamibia 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bennyboy-dog the problem is not as much the bonding as the use of an E core former. E cores are inherently more noisy and less efficient when compared to their toroid core counter parts. But the drawback of toroid cores is the price. I ditched my south african made micro invertor which was 20k less than the Victron I now have hung on my wall because of just that reason, the noise, in my living room none the less. But, if on a buget and there is an out building, this for someone just starting out that does not have allot of capitol..... Not to bad an option, I have seen allot worse...
@PipeManPeep
@PipeManPeep 4 жыл бұрын
Yes please. The more info, the better. Thanks for all your work David.
@dylanc9275
@dylanc9275 4 жыл бұрын
I have a sigineer and there costumer service is amazing. Have had a few issues. And they have sent me replacement parts for free. Just had to pay shipping
@dylanc9275
@dylanc9275 4 жыл бұрын
Fyi I love mine... idle consumption could be lower but I'm guessing it's high because of the transformer
@billjacobs8035
@billjacobs8035 4 жыл бұрын
First thought was the noise. And I sure wouldn't want to Lug the thing around. BUT... You can't hear it over the chop saw😲😁😏 And for a down and dirty unit it'll get the cabin built and a lot more. So actually it's a pretty good value. I'd buy one if I had a need. Great review as always 👍
@offgridwanabe
@offgridwanabe 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I've been talking with Franklin for a few months at Sigineer as they allow AC coupling and 240 split phase but they don't have the battery range I need but they seem really good and the price is right. Thanks for the video
@jakeandrules7724
@jakeandrules7724 4 жыл бұрын
Ive also been talking with Franklin for a few months. Going to buy the 15kva split phase inverter and another HF inverter possible the mpp LV5048 split phase for its pv charger and use it to power more sensitive loads while the LF inverter powers more heavier loads. Plus, the mpp inverter seems to have more exact charge options for my battery bank.
@truckergare
@truckergare 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I would like to see the generator set up, great video.
@tweebs1
@tweebs1 4 жыл бұрын
Another interesting video David. I'm interested in this feature: AC input with effective online synchronous stabilizing(AVR) technology
@sebydocky5080
@sebydocky5080 4 жыл бұрын
165w idle and noisy as hell .... no go.... Thanks David for your excellent review.
@jamessawyer4625
@jamessawyer4625 4 жыл бұрын
Is this unit FCC part 15 approved? Lots of inverters cause EMF noise which is regulated via the FCC rules Part 15 in the set of rules. Thanks
@fredstephens6793
@fredstephens6793 4 жыл бұрын
I have the the Signeer 6KW 120/240 split phase unit and it doesn't have the noise problem that this unit exhibits.
@korishan
@korishan 4 жыл бұрын
For the buzzing/noise of the inverter, it's possible to quiet it down. Take the transformer out and make sure there's some rubber padding between it and the case. And have some hard rubber bushings at the screws. Might even need some rubber padding where the boards also come into contact with the case. Also, make sure there isn't space between the covers and the chassis as this is another spot of possible noise generation. So again, a little bit of rubber padding (thin window weather seal perhaps) to make sure it can't vibrate against itself.
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips. I'll take a look.
@realoldgeekster
@realoldgeekster 4 жыл бұрын
Great David. You made me laugh several times. Always like it when you pull out your power tools to test with. Nice video Keep them up. Waiting for the 2 inverters to get hooked up soon. Thanks
@thomasmoore4576
@thomasmoore4576 4 жыл бұрын
awesome video man yeah get into the other part the USB and everything I would like to see it will do
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know.
@jwrhynejr.6689
@jwrhynejr.6689 4 жыл бұрын
Great learning video for us uninitiated old folks!! Thanks for sharing & more parameter study would be invaluable as well.
@reasonablebeing5392
@reasonablebeing5392 4 жыл бұрын
The stacks with the metal fins are rectifiers.
@dand9244
@dand9244 4 жыл бұрын
Yes get into it, would be nice to see, ty David
@Danielsoto9095
@Danielsoto9095 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video alot, most of it in the miter saw part, that miter saw really its the toughest tool to proof any inverter really works!!😂😂
@williamhughes205
@williamhughes205 4 жыл бұрын
I love that lg battery you built its bad ass
@simpletennesseelife5895
@simpletennesseelife5895 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!!!!! Yes please dig in further
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know.
@garymcleanuk
@garymcleanuk 4 жыл бұрын
Bit of a strange pop when you connected the batteries.. Id be interested to see the remote gen etc. I wasnt expecting it to start the saw tbh but it did well
@edwardshomestead9074
@edwardshomestead9074 4 жыл бұрын
6kw battery pack is awesome
@mark_osborne
@mark_osborne 4 жыл бұрын
Great review David !
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark.
@LithiumSolar
@LithiumSolar 4 жыл бұрын
What is that loud hum noise.? That's obnoxious as . Also, I know LF inverters have a higher idle consumption, and that's fine, but that's close to the consumption of my 10kW AIMS. Great video and great tests though!
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed the hum more on the transformer side compared to the other side, so I'm guessing it's from the transformer, but I don't know for sure.
@bicylindrico
@bicylindrico 3 жыл бұрын
Would it be safer or even matter to hit the input with 24v then 48v?
@billcrane2444
@billcrane2444 2 жыл бұрын
I'm considering the Sigineer 3,000 Watt, 24v inverter, charger, MPPT charge controller and the GroWatt with the same specs. Do you have any thoughts on quality and features of these units? I'm looking to use them on an RV with a 2kw panel array and may add a generator to the system. Or can you recommend other brands?
@Dutch_off_grid_homesteading
@Dutch_off_grid_homesteading 4 жыл бұрын
heya that is a nice power ogg grid solar inveter but I'a still connected to the grid so I'm looking for a inverter that as the batteries are full I still can give back to the grid
@yankey4
@yankey4 4 жыл бұрын
That was fun. Would be cool to see the PC side. God Bless Brother.
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
LOL, of course you say that. You are a computer genius. I'll try, but I struggle to get things to talk to each other. That was really nice of the line worker to say you are all set with your gen tie.
@yankey4
@yankey4 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidPozEnergy You asked :) Ya they are cool. We are with out power still looks like for the next 3 days. No need for the geny yet tho. The suns out and it's not all that hot..
@GoingOffGrid101
@GoingOffGrid101 4 жыл бұрын
looks like a nice inverter! the only thin I dislike is the idle draw is to high, but the surge is amazing and I do like this company I have the 6000w and its working really well now. if your using this to just run tools i would buy it.
@magic.marmot
@magic.marmot 4 жыл бұрын
I love your obvious glee.
@SantiagoMolinaC
@SantiagoMolinaC 4 жыл бұрын
HI David, thank you for this review. I got this one, but 2000 watt, plugged to 1000 watt of solar panels and 4 100 amp 12v agm´s. Could not find anywhere the name, brand or anything. It is very robust, but two things I really don´t like: Idle draw, and the fan. It´s very annoying, since I have it inside our cabin (maybe upgrade it to a silent pc fan). I feel that the idle draw is affecting negatively the charge of my batteries at night, may need to upgrade my system a bit, but would need 4 extra batteries, and some extra solar, to offset it´s idle draw. Could you test the inverter with some ac variable speed tools? I can run everything, but 1 bosch variable speed drill, which will make the inverter shut off.
@kamalelidrissi2629
@kamalelidrissi2629 4 жыл бұрын
hi i want to ask you if i can run this inverter with lithium battry 18650 24v with bms and charge it in the internal mppt charger in the inverter thanks for help brother
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
No, this is 48v only.
@kamalelidrissi2629
@kamalelidrissi2629 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidPozEnergy okay if i add 48v can it run
@MrSummitville
@MrSummitville 4 жыл бұрын
@@kamalelidrissi2629 Or purchase a 24 Volt inverter. But 24 Volts will reduce the max Watts output.. What is your 18650 configuration ... 7S100P ???
@dsdsmitty2
@dsdsmitty2 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave - wondering how this product is doing. Thinking of making a purchase similar (24v). Used to think MPPT was the way to go - but after reading amazon reviews - I think I want to steer clear of them. Would love an update on this inverter/charger.
@jimthvac100
@jimthvac100 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review of the inverter. Nice that it is a low frequency type and can handle large start up loads. The auto generator start up would be nice to see but not because I would be interested in buying this particular unit. That very loud transformer would keep me from purchasing it. I think the better brands use a round toroid transformer. Also the standby current seemed rather high. I would like to see how it compares to other Low frequency inverters.
@korishan
@korishan 4 жыл бұрын
When you loaded the inverter down with the Vac and Miter, what was the load on the battery side? Is it possible that you reached the max amps capable on the wire or had too much voltage drop from the load and not the max load the inverter could handle? I didn't notice what size wire you used on the battery side to make sure you didn't overload it. Assuming a 48VDC input and 3400W pull, that'd be 71A on the batteries/wires. This is an estimate and most likely a bit low because the digital meter wasn't updating fast enough to keep up with the constant changing power draws 10:35. You can hear the beep of the inverter for a second or two before the meter updated. So it's quite possible the amp load was much higher for that second or so.
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
The battery pack was at 57 volts, maybe 56.5v. The positive wire was #6, about 2.5 feet long. The negative wire was bigger, just stuff I had on hand.
@lanfordmims5080
@lanfordmims5080 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for creatingsuch great videos 👍
@jameslybarger8786
@jameslybarger8786 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video David.
@lloydrmc
@lloydrmc 4 жыл бұрын
That noise on your oscilloscope is probably just the back EMF (electrical noise) pushed back into the wiring by the motor starting up. You can try my theory by attaching the same setup to grid power.
@zeitGGeist
@zeitGGeist 4 жыл бұрын
Any recommendations on 60v inverters? I’m interested in a 60v bank and 120v service. Thanks for the videos!
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know of any 60v inverters I'm really happy with. But there are several 48v inverters that go up past 60v I like. Several models go up to 64v which is good enough, but some go higher. The Magnum MSPAE will go up to 68v. That's sweet.
@billssolarpowerandgardenin1016
@billssolarpowerandgardenin1016 4 жыл бұрын
DavidPoz check out threads on anotherpower.com. The forum is a bit dead but there are some good reads. Some of the guys have built their own inverters and I’ve heard of 96v inverters.
@SolarBuck
@SolarBuck 4 жыл бұрын
​@@billssolarpowerandgardenin1016 It is not a true inverter but I just got my hands on a APC SURTA3000XL UPS and it runs off of 16 12V 5ah SLA batterries which were dead of course. That means it takes 192V DC to make it run. I bought some 3.7 cells from Battery hookup w/ BMS and plan to try and revive it. It should be a 3Kw Pure Sine Wave when I get it running.
@djtension2259
@djtension2259 4 жыл бұрын
yes like to see the remote start
@olivermarquez1748
@olivermarquez1748 4 жыл бұрын
Good morning David there is not a single video that I miss, I have all seen them I try to imitate you in my house in some things that you do you are my source of inspiration, everything you do is excellent, I live in Colombia and it is not easy to get at a good price everything you teach I have a small 24v solar system and I have bought 48v lithium batteries I am needing that inverter to start the pair of 48v batteries that I buy there will be some way to buy it and send it to my country Could you help me?
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching my videos. I'm not selling this right away as I have some other things I want to do with it. Does Colombia use the same 120v, 60 htz power?
@olivermarquez1748
@olivermarquez1748 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidPozEnergy Good evening, friend, David. Thank you to answer me so quickly, if in Colombia we use 120v at 60hrz in general and 220v in a few appliances such as air conditioners, but my consumption is at 110v-120v throughout my house, I would like to have that inverter inform me how I could acquire it. in the best possible way since I tried and they only ship to the United States and not to Colombia
@ceefiveceefive
@ceefiveceefive 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos David!
@happyhealerforpresident2029
@happyhealerforpresident2029 4 жыл бұрын
HEY DAVID, nice. I almost bought from them, nice inverter. IM glad you like it. And of course, I ended up with the Magnum inverters. You will like my set up. IM putting a video up soon. Keep up the good work.
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
Magnums are great.
@happyhealerforpresident2029
@happyhealerforpresident2029 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidPozEnergy OH yes, so quiet too. I never really realized how much noise some other brands made. But I was impressed with the company Sygineer's inverters. They make them vast in options and abilities. There are a few others.
@davidjames1684
@davidjames1684 4 жыл бұрын
@DavidPoz - I have a suggestion David. I have a heater that ramps up very slowly in power (like 1 to 2 minutes to go from 300W to 600W on the low setting but I will check to get it more exact), and is good for finding out a maximum power of an inverter by already getting it close to the rated maximum using loads you already have, and then firing up the "ramp up" heater and monitoring the total wattage. I will test out the heater again and send the make and model so maybe you can get one locally there and use it for testing (and actually as a heater too), or maybe I can just send you mine since I don't use heaters much here,
@adamcrawford7981
@adamcrawford7981 3 жыл бұрын
Settings are hard to figure out with the signeer
@Totogita
@Totogita 4 жыл бұрын
I have an mpp solar one and it does not get off utility when the sun comes up, and it waste a lot o energy. I had to turn the 800 watts pure sine wave inverter on mine. the mppt charge controller work really well but if you start using energy the fan is very loud.
@krashkidsfpc2649
@krashkidsfpc2649 3 жыл бұрын
Hi David...love the content...I was curious, if you had to pick an all-in-one unit which one would you suggest?
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 3 жыл бұрын
My friend, Ben, uses a Sol-Ark 12k. It's top of the line for all in one units. However, it comes at a premium in cost. I've tested MPP Solar LV5048 before and didn't like it. So If I was to pick one right now and didn't have the funds for a Sol-Ark, I'd buy a Phocos 5k. lddy.no/s5eo But I plan to test more of these all in ones during this year to get a better answer.
@darrengillett8974
@darrengillett8974 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidPozEnergy Awesome thanks for the info… I’ll check them out
@homesteadfromscratch
@homesteadfromscratch 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the gen remote start.
@bostjantrancar9605
@bostjantrancar9605 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.... 👍😎🖖... Please more detail review...
@romelcasana5600
@romelcasana5600 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you David for the Great review. How many ohms is the resistor that you use to precharge the capacitor?
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 3 жыл бұрын
That was a 2ohm, 100W resistor. amzn.to/3o39dsA But the exact ohms doesn't so much matter. I've used 1-10 and still work.
@picklerpickler8785
@picklerpickler8785 4 жыл бұрын
Think that equipment would run a hot tub that plugs into a regular outlet. Heater pump comes on about every 15 min. And a couple refrigerators?
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
If you can plug it into a normal 120v outlet, you can probably run it on this unit. Most outlets are 15 or 20 amps. At 120v that's up to 2400 watts. This inverter is 2500 watts,
@SantiagoMolinaC
@SantiagoMolinaC 4 жыл бұрын
This unit has an auto on-off feature based on load, that turns the inverter off automatically. This should help with the high idle draw
@RicardoCerveraBlanco
@RicardoCerveraBlanco 4 жыл бұрын
Hey and thanks for the video. I got a question... so the machine is rated fo 48v battery and you battery is over 57v, i also notice you programe the charging controller to charge the battery up to 58v. is best to use high capacity batteries?, if wanna set up a 24v system i can confortable use 36v batteries?. Thanks.
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
When we say 48v inverter, or 48v battery, we are talking about the "nominal" voltage. All the equipment must be the same nominal voltage to work together. But the actual voltage will vary at any given moment in time. Voltages of the battery are constantly changing and the inverter has a range it can work with. I think this particular unit can work with a range of 42-64 volts. You will have to check the specifications of your particular unit and battery.
@RicardoCerveraBlanco
@RicardoCerveraBlanco 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidPozEnergy So if the solar inverter have a range between 24v to 48v charging the 36v batteries will be fine?, i will double check everything. Thanks.
@loucinci3922
@loucinci3922 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review.
@elvisholness810
@elvisholness810 4 жыл бұрын
Hi David, love your videos. What did you do with those 8,000 watt Reliable inverters that you had?
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
I gave some away and sold one.
@gorillos1
@gorillos1 4 жыл бұрын
Hi David! I am using 4 panels of 260 watts 30 volts 15amps (REC 260 Peak Energy Z-link series). My Solar controller charger inverter is PowMr 60amps 3000 watts 48 volts with PV input of 145 volts. Using 14s Nissan Leaf batteries with BMS 48 volts. Should I do series of my 4 panels to make total of 120 volts or series 2 panels total 60 volts then do a Parallel for 4 panels? Advice from will be really appreciated from you thank. Gerry
@peerhamzag9574
@peerhamzag9574 4 жыл бұрын
How to connect watt meter? Plss make video tutorial on it
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
Are you asking about the watt meter on the battery side?
@peerhamzag9574
@peerhamzag9574 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidPozEnergy yup
@joelfuller4677
@joelfuller4677 4 жыл бұрын
Nice man. I’m looking at their 12Kw version. I was aghast at the buzzing sound when you turn it on. Is it really that loud? Planning on using it near a sleeping area and hope its not going to make that kind of buzzing when I’m trying to sleep!
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
I would NOT use this near my bed. It's the loudest inverter I have tested, similar noise level to a window AC I think. One of my cameras microphones was really picking it up. This inverter uses a cheaper transformer (E-style). There is another style out there called toroid, but is used in more expensive inverters. The toroid is much quieter.
@joelfuller4677
@joelfuller4677 4 жыл бұрын
DavidPoz Ack! Ok thanks for the great info. Ill ask about the different styles before I buy. For instance, I understand the 15Kw (singineer) inverter is much quieter.
@glennp2288
@glennp2288 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice unit .. The ac in will this unit automaticially swith to grid power if not enough battery or pv. Power ??
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
I have not tested that feature, but the manual says it can.
@DIYwithBatteries
@DIYwithBatteries 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video.
@xiloeteknowledgiesllc1973
@xiloeteknowledgiesllc1973 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome can you test an all in one washer dryer combo?
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I don't own a washer/dryer combo.
@musicinspire1745
@musicinspire1745 4 жыл бұрын
The Sigineer, low frequency, 2.5 KW inverter handled the miter saw, where the MPP Solar, high frequency, 5 KW kicked out when trying to run the miter.
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Low Frequency is much better suited to surges, like when starting a saw. But, to be fair, the MPP Solar was 120/240. So it was only 2.5kw per 120v leg.
@musicinspire1745
@musicinspire1745 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidPozEnergy High frequency units are also more prone to failure due to demand because they lack the large transformer, and therefore the robustness of higher current handling. The components on those heat sinks in the high frequency unit you were not sure about are either power transistors, or power FET's/MOSFET's. Manufacturers are always looking to cut corners in their designs, and the consumer takes it on the chin when manufacturers over-rate the power capabilities of their end products. Bigger numbers, bigger price, even though you're not really getting what they advertise. As an Electrical Engineer, I see this happening all over the market. I hate my fellow Engineers who have given themselves over to the flagrant dishonesty of executives.
@ironhead65
@ironhead65 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a suggestion on the smallest wattage grid tied inverter? I'm hoping 150W?
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
Down that low you might be looking at "Micro inverters". I have some of the first enphase micro-inverters that are still running well. But I don't work with grid-tie inverters enough to suggest one brand over another.
@ironhead65
@ironhead65 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidPozEnergy thanks David, I appreciate the feedback. I found a nice enphase thats about what I want, but was told 'used' could be a problem due to how they can be tied to networks. The model I was looking at can't be had new. Do you find the need for a central controller a problem with yours? Could you share which model you are using? Thank you!
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
My model is the 215 (I think) installed 8 years ago. I don't even use the central controller thing. I've never been on the "portal" because you need to give them your information. Mine just turn the meter backwards and that's good enough for me.
@kusnezoff8705
@kusnezoff8705 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what would happen if you put a super capacitor bank in your system to take the initial brunt of the power requirements. would be interesting to see.
@MIKE-il6mu
@MIKE-il6mu 4 жыл бұрын
Do they make a split phase model?
@kwesiowusu4629
@kwesiowusu4629 3 жыл бұрын
Kindly get into the software. I wish to see the features
@leroywarner7354
@leroywarner7354 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I would I’m very interested in that unit I have the same value due to getting my equipment to run and about ready to make a decision
@a2cryss
@a2cryss 4 жыл бұрын
That label on the transformer at 4:21 is wrong since no transformer can convert 48VDC to anything other than heat. I know it is probably just an identifier for the whole unit.
@BenCos2018
@BenCos2018 4 жыл бұрын
There's another board that converts the 48Volt DC to 48volt AC then it goes to the transformer but yep you are correct in what you mean though
@mikeriverajr4447
@mikeriverajr4447 4 жыл бұрын
well dam signineer got there money worth with sending you this inverter. . . . its nice when a unit is tested hard and performs flawelessly!!!!!!!!!!!!!! one note tho, the link you posted is going to a different model that cost like 1200$
@mahirfredericks4013
@mahirfredericks4013 4 жыл бұрын
the stall current of the miter saw is really high, but i mean... if you stall on grid ac... it would pop the breaker...
@lnxpro
@lnxpro 4 жыл бұрын
i'd definitely be interested in the USB > PC functionality and the software. I am currently using the LV5048 inverter and it works great but as in your previous test with that inverter I am running into the same issue with my miter saw. It switches over to grid automatically when I power on the miter saw. Not a huge deal. On the other hand the MPP solar software is pure garbage so I'd be interested in this aspect for this inverter.
@SiriusSolar
@SiriusSolar 4 жыл бұрын
Yes a comparison between the MPP software and this would be useful
@ManuelRodriguez-pk2mo
@ManuelRodriguez-pk2mo 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to set the eod and dod lower than the 34.5 and 39.5 preset settings? Thanks in advance Manny
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know. I gave this away, it's not worth getting.
@jancoow
@jancoow 4 жыл бұрын
Did you ever invest into creating a small DC grid in your house for DC devices? I'm wondering if it is more efficient when running DC devices from batteries with a DC-DC converter instead of going from battery DC -> AC -> back to DC. Would love to hear your thoughts and maybe create a small expiriment in the future.
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know enough about it to run appliances on DC. I'd be OK with running some 12v DC throughout to run LED's.
@nonlocalitykat
@nonlocalitykat 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Are these units able to be set up in parallel to increase the total output capacity?
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
No paralleling. If you need more capacity there are better solutions out there.
@chrissteene
@chrissteene 4 жыл бұрын
David thanks for the video and info
@danielleal298
@danielleal298 4 жыл бұрын
What All in one inverter would you recommend for a rv with a 1,560 watt solar array? I am new to diy solar and I am addicted to your channel.
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
If your RV is only running 120v, then I'd suggest this one: lddy.no/s5eo If you are running 120/240v, then two of those, or you could do one Sol-Ark.
@dandil
@dandil 2 жыл бұрын
a stalled motor is close to a short so as long as the blade is spinning while cutting it should truck through.
@1981dasimpson
@1981dasimpson 4 жыл бұрын
shame it is not a 240v version as thats our power in the uk i do like these units i like how thay can run solar and flick over to a generator when needed or even hydro instead of solar what was the max ampage for solar
@MrSummitville
@MrSummitville 4 жыл бұрын
Then buy the model that has 240 Volts! Why is that so hard?
@greggsatlauttamus9743
@greggsatlauttamus9743 4 жыл бұрын
Good tests! Good review! Exactly hit the real world problems and tests! I was sold after the cuts. Great product ! Tell them thanks again for making it ! It’d be nice if it wasn’t so loud. How about a hot water heater, a normal microwave oven, or a freezer / real full size refrigerator tests? Thanks!
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
This particular unit is 120v only. So it will work with some water heaters, but not 240v models. Yes, a microwave is OK.
@percybrown9191
@percybrown9191 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you got something from that outfit, I got one similar turns out it was a 240v model still got it stuck with it still need one but I won’t buy from them.
@lanfordmims5080
@lanfordmims5080 4 жыл бұрын
David have you thought of testing a flow battery with this inverter or the mpp inverter
@saschajodicke2946
@saschajodicke2946 3 жыл бұрын
Hallo ich bin der Sascha aus Deutschland... Und ich habe ne frage wo bekomme ich denn inverter. Denn du hier vorgestellt hast .lg sascha
@PhillipCarswell
@PhillipCarswell 4 жыл бұрын
Could you use several of these in a home that adds up to 10kW? Or would you just go with a larger inverter?
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
This model does not support pairing. You would need to go with a larger inverter.
@fgllc
@fgllc 4 жыл бұрын
I am curious to know if the unit is UL or ETL listed? I am always concerned when I see foreign language markings on most components.... I saw CE markings in the video...
@MrSummitville
@MrSummitville 4 жыл бұрын
Contact the mfr via their website ...
@Solar1Lab
@Solar1Lab 4 жыл бұрын
I love your videos!
@paulbarrette2557
@paulbarrette2557 4 жыл бұрын
Please do the rest of the tests
@mondotv4216
@mondotv4216 4 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem seems to be the limited voltage on solar panel input. Followed by stand by consumption, efficiency and noise. It’s not that unusual for a hybrid inverter to be inefficient compared to a grid tied solar inverter.
@nomad5454
@nomad5454 4 жыл бұрын
I'm looking into doing a chest freezer powered by solar panels also but idk where to start help plz?
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
I did a video on that. Check it out and if you have more questions after, let me know. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGjKdJaZbt1gm7c
@tomb375
@tomb375 4 жыл бұрын
Super Awesome! Just learning but I would love to hear your thoughts on a way to use the Solar panels and a inverter in such a setup for my Hot Tub. It has a 4.5 HP motor and heater. I'm here on Long Island NY and the Electric Prices are Killer and have to keep the tub turned down most of the time. Thank you so much for your video's I just subscribed!
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you are running 240v AC. This inverter is 120v only. For over a year I used an Aims brand that was 120/240v. www.aimscorp.net/6000-watt-pure-sine-power-inverter-charger-48-volt-dc-to-120-240-volt-ac.html At the moment I'm running my house with SMA
@tomb375
@tomb375 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidPozEnergy Thank you, yes it's 240v AC
@MrSummitville
@MrSummitville 4 жыл бұрын
@@tomb375 How much do you pay per kWhr of electricity? Typically, Off-Grid electricity ( Solar Panel + Inverter/Charger + Battery Bank ) is way more EXPENSIVE than Grid Power. You need to do some MATH first ! Also, Sigineer does make a 240 Volt AC Inverter/Charger. You are going to need, at least, a 4,000 WATT Inverter just to "run" the motor. You need to worry about the Starting / Surge amps, too. Is there an electric heater, also?
@johncoinas
@johncoinas 4 жыл бұрын
I actually have been looking at there inverter chargers. Any way to get them to send you one of those
@markanthonybumanglag1040
@markanthonybumanglag1040 4 жыл бұрын
Hello brother.. Ilike your video.
@caroman6761
@caroman6761 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please explain the advantages and disadvantages of low frequency and high frequency invertrers?
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
Both can produce pure sine wave, 120v AC. So both can be used. It depends what you plug in. If you only use things like heaters, TV's, lights, computers, then you can use a HF. But some things need the LF (transformer based) to start the big surges like AC, compressor, Saws. HF is smaller, lighter, cheaper. LF is bigger, heavier, more expensive. These are generalizations I'm making. The industry is moving to HF for everything as the computers get better and faster to react. Like the very expensive Sol-Ark is HF, but listed to have a very respectable surge.
@ramzeneger
@ramzeneger 4 жыл бұрын
Pls do review generator remote start and the usb output into computer so that we will know alot more. Im trying to set up my off grid in the Philippines with hopefully they have the 220 volts 50 to 60 hertz spec. Thank you very much..
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