SIGMA 16 1.4 Vs Rokinon 12 2.0 - A Comprehensive Comparison

[@ChristopherBurress]

Always that early thumbs down lol. Oh well. Hope everyone enjoys the video!

[@The_Millionaires_Path]

Christopher Burress it's that frederich guy who wrote Bible comments on your last video. :D

[@ChristopherBurress]

+Carlo Magno Hahaha!

[@chriswood426]

Why would a person’s lens comparison video get a thumbs down? I mean what type of content are they expecting? There’s not enough 1980’s style action movie explosions when you looked at the barrel distortion!!!! There some mental ppl knocking about

[@Jacob_Roberts]

Thank you pointing out the differences between these lenses by presenting the Features, Advantages, and Benefits (FAB) of each lens, and then showing these differences with the video. I wish more KZbin presenters would use your FAB format.

[@ChristopherBurress]

+Jacob Roberts well thanks! I'm glad that it's coming across well. I was thinking about for my more oddball product reviews doing a "why you should AND why you shouldn't" series pointing out the reasons for why someone might want to buy it and reasons why you should avoid it.

[@Station9.75]

Aren't advantages and benefits the same thing in this regard?

[@Jacob_Roberts]

Let's compare this to a car. Fast pickup in a car is an advantage. The benefit is that it is easier to cut into heavy traffic.

[@Station9.75]

Jacob Roberts - Yeah I don't know. They just seem like synonyms to me. My car can accelerate quickly and it's "advantageous" that I can cut into heavy traffic.

[@minhqdao]

These camera movements at 0:09? Fire.

[@ChristopherBurress]

@NAVE it is a gimbal on a fluid video head, not reverse.

[@nathanielcompton4611]

In the future, it would be a great value to have a timestamp or link to jump to different "sections" of your comparison video. Great work and thank you for all your time and consideration.

[@ChristopherBurress]

+Nathaniel Compton I've seen that done before. I May start implementing that. Good suggestion.

[@gilbertdaroy6080]

Don't be nervous you're doing an excellent job. Having said that it's Sigma for me. AF and lowlight capabilities is always an advantage. Great job:)

[@Thunderbird1337]

Good comparison, thanks. Regarding the manual focus ring: In my opinion it doesn't really matter that the focus ring is not so smooth on the Samyang (/Rokinon) because focussing at 12mm is extremely easy. Set the ring to slightly before infinity with f/5.6 (or higher) and everything from 1m to infinity is sharp. So usually for landscape photography etc. there is not much need for turning this ring.

[@ChristopherBurress]

+Thunderbird1337 yeah its totally fine for photos I was more talking specifically for focus racking with gimbal use.

[@Thunderbird1337]

Ah, ok. As a KZbinr you obviously have more focus on filming while I only use it for photos :)

[@ChristopherBurress]

+Thunderbird1337 yup its all good!

[@Dizeliun]

Does anyone know why my sigma 16mm f1.4 with a6400 can auto focus close, but not back far when I move the object or myself back to the original spot? I tried AFC wide and a few other modes and potential fixes to no avail. If anybody knows the exact issue let me know!

[@JonahSonner]

Thanks so much for doing this man! I have to say I think both lenses have their place. My biggest complaint with the Rokinon was the fringing and the vignetting. I really do like the Rokinon and I've taken it on backpacking trips and it's preformed great. The Sigma is slowly winning me over as well...

[@FredrickRockson]

Dude, your final summary was spot on!! subbed. Thanks

[@ryanbeer5262]

Different enough to justify having both! I love the 16mm fov, the Sigma is surprisingly affordable for a wide angle 1.4 lens

[@TheGlowingforest]

Thanks for this review! I really enjoy the fact that you are doing the comparison in the park. This is the exact reason I would buy such a lens - to do landscape photography. I am interested in how branches and leaves would like. I am tired of looking at studio tests.

[@vinzyvisuals6472]

The Final Summary !!! Best Pointers. Every Reviewer should do this when comparing.

[@MrScarampiandres]

It would be great to compare fuji 16mm 1.4 vs samyang 16mm 2.0

[@Utoober-yp7mf]

I recently bought the sigma 16mm 1.4 lens for my Sony A5100 but my crane M2 gimbal is not powerful enough to handle the sigma lens. Debating if I should get the Rokinon AF or get a more powerful gimbal like weebill S.

[@powerlurker]

best SIGMA 16 1.4 Vs Rokinon 12 2 comparison on tube

[@ChristopherBurress]

+powerlurker that's what I like to hear!

[@jurgentrockenbau9321]

And it's true. Finally I found a helpful review of those two lenses. Thanx, man! Well done!👌

[@EveryDayHoliDay]

Was looking for a "direct combat" between exactly those 2 lenses- yours is the best on the net- Thank you! :)

[@perfectlylonely]

I'll wait a couple of months for those ideal astro conditions for your comparo. I own the Rok. Just hoping the wider aperture Sig will allow for shorter exposure times without losing much in the field of view.

[@vbmichael_lee]

you literally have a video for every camera question I have haha. Thank you so much for making this helpful video!

[@ChristopherBurress]

+Michael Lee I'm glad my content can be helpful!

[@efficaciousuave]

please an update because of the new autofocus samyang 12mm f2.

[@JustDavidMinistries]

Thanks for this beautiful comparison. I have had sony 10-18 for over a year and used it only twice but I do use sigma 16mm often so I traded the 10-18 for 90mm f2.8 today

[@kayatworkme]

Hello! What about focus in infinity on Rokinon? I wanna buy it, for use on gimbal, but dont understand this moment - i need sharp image

[@spost26]

I like the sigma and have owned the rokinon/samyang in the past. my problem with the sigma is its size. It is quite large and heavy to sit on the front of comparatively lightweight bodies such as the a6000 and a6100. For my use case I think I would like a more compact lens and am considering the Tamron 11-20 and possibly Laowa lens. Tokina is supposed to be releasing a wide zoom this September so the competition is heating up!

[@PhilippKlein]

Just the comparison I wanted, thank you!

[@juliocamacho8354]

First video I see from Christopher, I like this style, objective comparisons of A/B, I hope to not just see similar images taken from the same exact place, that's good to learn about the differences in angles of a lens, but also see the best possible composition of a scene with each lens, maybe, the Rokinon needed to be a few steps further in to not just see the plain brick walls, or maybe the sigma needed to be further away of the hand railing to have a better composition like the Rokinon had, maybe we will learn how to adjust compositions to the tools we have at hand in the process of comparing, I think this will enrich the experience.

[@BojanBojovic]

Ah those stubborn aberrations... Any chance you could share those RAW files? Thanks...

[@justintolboe]

My Rokinon 12mm has extremely severe coma on the sides when shooting stars. Even at F4.0 (Using a star tracker) I think it might just be a bad one though, I've seen good star photos with the same lens

[@IMDABROWN]

The man the myth the legend has given us another excellent comparison

[@ChristopherBurress]

+IMDABROWN lol I'm glad to have a fan! Hope you enjoyed it!

[@vinaynagdev03]

Sigma lens is come with weather sealing?

[@DennisMeetsWorld]

Yes

[@jre617]

Well done and informative. Thanks. I'd like to compare the Samyang 12 2.0 to the Laowa 9mm f2, Thanks.

[@amitchakraborty6116]

Thank you for a great video. Factual, informative, comprehensive and complete. Great presentation, great style, really enjoyed your content. Keep up the good work!

[@NLMusique]

Nice review. I already have the Sony 10-18 mm so I'll get the Sigma 16mm

[@maraquiros5543]

Hi Chris! Im going on an African Safari this July and am deciding which lenses to get. I'm bringing 2 bodies and will need a Wildlife lens and a Landscape lens. I currently have a Sony A6000 and a Nikon D5600. I was thinking perhaps it would be best to buy a Telephoto Zoom lens (at least 300mm) for the Nikon and a Wide Angle lens for the Sony (either a WA Zoom or the Sigma/ Roki prime). If you have a moment, I'd really appreciate knowing what you think and hearing any suggestions! THANKS!

[@mihirgolani66]

Which one of these lenses should I use for vlogging with a6400?

[@dopedoh-homer]

doing more vids outdoors, the Rokinon, but inside a studio or filming at night, the Sigma

[@digitalavatar5699]

is rokinon good for real estate videos?

[@Misssssiek20]

If you had something to buy to sigma 30 mm, more to the landscape, what would you choose?

[@kamotionmarketing]

Excellent job it's always great to watch your videos.

[@michaelfuller2153]

Thanks for the comparison! Going awaaay back, the Zeiss Hologon came with a ND center filter...with the dark spot in the middle. I wonder if that is available for the Rokinon?

[@DanuteP]

Can't wait until you get out to do some astrophotography with these. I'm wondering though if you also have the Rokinon 21mm 1.4f to add to the challenge. That's what I'm using right now for aurora. I switched from the 12mm 2.0 because I needed the faster lens but am tempted to jump to that Sigma. Thanks for the reviews.

[@mynamesasummer]

Can you do a sensor cleaning/general lens care video?

[@chrisontech277]

Great video as usual. What lens did you use for this video when you were in the frame? I like the blurred background given what appears to be a small space. I'm using a 50mm 1.8 but it's challenging in a small room.

[@bearlyphased]

The Roki looks like a GoPro in some of those example photos. I think that the Sigma still gives the more reasonable results

[@QippysChannel]

I think I am pretty much smitten by the value for it's price the Rokinon offers, now a matter of when I can get one I guess 😊

[@ScottsReviews]

Chris.after your time with the a7rii have put away your a6500?

[@ChristopherBurress]

+Scott's reviews I haven't yet. I'm still bouncing back and forth, I don't know if i want to use the a7r2 for video or go back to the a6500. My last couple videos have been with the FF to kind of audit the Quality. I'll definitely be doing some comparison videos with my thoughts on them after I get a few more videos marked off my list.

[@ScottsReviews]

Christopher Burress thanks. Your review of the 2 would be very interesting. I bet a lot of a6500/6300 owners are all thinking the same thing since the a7rii used prices keep dropping.

[@slr7075]

Excellent review. These two lenses are really solid 👌

[@rodrimora]

is the astro comparasion done now?

[@ChristopherBurress]

I shot it over the weekend, hopefully will be edited and up soon.

[@rodrimora]

thanks!

[@scottiebumich]

what's your take on the Rokinon 12mm vs Sony 10-18 F4?

[@qtben17]

Rokinon is sharper. Ive watched reviews about sigma 16 and it is pretty consistent of softness at 1.4, needs to be stopped down. Do u think an in-camera microadjustment will help?

[@kmiloz]

Thanks for the very useful video. Which lens of the two would you suggest for landscape photography? and Why?

[@ChristopherBurress]

I would probably go for the rokinon because of its good sharpness and wider field of view. Stopped down and some CA correction in post and it should make for a great landscape lens.

[@dominikkulas3038]

just awesome video, mate!

[@ephedrineandcaffeine]

Is this in downtown Greenville, SC?

[@ProSpeedflying]

Thanks for this comparison. What about manual focus ring on sigma 16. Is it comfortable to use for the video work?

[@ChristopherBurress]

It does pretty well, check out my follow up video to this one for more details.

[@8amfilms]

I actually wonder because I have the a6300, if the comparison of these lenses might drastically change on a Full Frame, like the a7 iii. What do you think Chris?

[@ChristopherBurress]

They both vignette pretty severely, but not as much on the 16mm. Might be a more similar FOV than apsc

[@saintlouis1989]

If you only have 1 chance to pick one of them, what would be your call ?

[@ChristopherBurress]

+steven Tanda Putra probably the sigma. It's more versatile than the rokinon. But if I was looking for a wide angle lens, I would go for the rokinon.

[@ElRealista.]

Nice vids! Have you checked the Samyang/Rokinon 16mm f2.0? I have one and it is very good, and I think is the perfect 1vs1 to compare with the sigma

[@ChristopherBurress]

+Jorge Flores I haven't hear of that one. Not sure why though. I'll look into it.

[@ElRealista.]

Christopher Burress I know it is very unpopular for I don’t what reason, it is and Apsc only lens for a lot of mounts. Actually it has little CA and is very sharp. I got it at amazon for 180dls deal so it was a steal.

[@sanliang7715]

Thanks for this comparison, if i ues them on the a7 full frame ,which one is better choice after cutting the vignetting.

[@ChristopherBurress]

The 16mm is better on a FF sensor. The 12mm vignetts too much.

[@sanliang7715]

THK！ i think sigma 16 would be the cheapest wide-angle lens for a7, after cutting the vignetts,it may look like a 18mm~20mm and it can work with CPL !!!

[@emrahbakr6217]

Christopher Burress thinks landscape architecture is for shooting? Sigma 16mm? Sony 10-18?

[@ChristopherBurress]

+Emrah Bakır 10-18 for sure. For both you can easily get away with always shooting at f/8 and above all the time so the f/1.4 is useless.

[@emrahbakr6217]

Christopher Burress thanks.

[@DaveSincere]

This was a VERY GOOD VIDEO!! I'm in the market for a wide angle lens.. I think I would need something wider than 16 mm.. I would like to cover entire rooms in real estate photography.

[@ChristopherBurress]

+DaveSincere I would look at the rokinon, but since it would possibly be a write off and an asset in your case i would also consider the 10-18. It's wider and sharper, and when shooting real estate you are shooting at like f/11 anyways.

[@ericrueger4231]

As an Architect I am in a similar situation, I got the 10-18 a few days ago. It's sharper than the kit lense but I can not say I am impressed... But that may be my copy... I have time to return it and have thought about going the 16 f1.4 but I really am liking the wide end of the 10-18. So I am not sure within this price range there is a prefect ancer.

[@ChristopherBurress]

+Eric Rueger I wouldn't go as narrow as 16mm for architecture. My 10-18 is crazy good, I have seen other reviews that say it's not great. So it might be a qc thing....

[@andybertozzi]

Eric Rueger Then you can return the Sony 10-18 and with the money get the Sigma AND a Canon 10-18 IS STM and adapt it. Very sharp, very cheap and I love mine! You will thank me later :)

[@ChristopherBurress]

+Andy Bertozzi does the Canon have video af? The only reason I keep the 10-18 is because it's such a good vlogging lens.

[@Sweetchild911]

Is this shot in Greenville?

[@ChristopherBurress]

Yes it is.

[@Sweetchild911]

@@ChristopherBurress Awesome! I'm getting my first camera next week and am from CHS, but I plan on taking pics in the upstate. Greenville is so beautiful :)

[@calebmount4457]

I like your review. However you bash the rokinon without speaking of it's benefits. There is a place for that wider field of view, where the sony doesn't fit. Also, PRICE?! The sigma is almost twice as expensive, it seems unfair

[@ChristopherBurress]

+Caleb mount I didn't think I was bashing it. Other than with the chromatic aberrations in the corners. I said that it gave a cool and unique perspective with the wider field of view, that it's more compact and lighter, and that it has good image quality albeit not the best. The prices were listed on one of the opening shots of the lenses, probably smaller than it should have been though.

[@rembrandao]

@@ChristopherBurress Rokoinon has better image quality apart from the chromatic aberrations which are also present on Sigma.

[@sic04250f]

I own both of these (samyang 12) and the sigma is way sharper

[@ubarhd1]

Very informative video thanks

[@FrankP83]

Thanks for this review, just a question...Rokinon is the SAME as the Samyang?

[@ChristopherBurress]

Yes they are identical

[@zubrudrgn]

You are good at what u doing here...

[@621add]

Great discussion about the different use cases! Thanks for the objective AND subjective points of view.

[@Paul_anderson_creative]

Nice review, thanks..

[@6gwilliams]

Well done!

[@andreestevano1647]

Thanks a lot!

[@chryseass.5143]

I got the Sigma!

[@ChocoLater1]

Sigma is sexier than Roki.

[@tnxadventures6890]

Greenville South Carolina!

[@opperbouwmeester]

If I marketed the price difference to the difference in quality, the Rokanon wins.

[@ChristopherBurress]

There's always a balance and compromise.

[@v3zMedia]

You're the fucking man! Glad I found your channel. Subbed!

[@01thiefraccoon]

Did u lose weight? U look great! Thanks for the comparison video! I love my Sigma 16mm, and will be sending the rokinon back.

[@ChristopherBurress]

+ThiefRaccoon Lee trying to... Got some goals this year. But thanks!

[@Atua_Moe]

Yewww!!!

[@thomasallsup9090]

Wait, you are claiming the Sigma is great to excellent image quality, while the Rokinon is only good iq? Um, you do realize CA correction has been widely available and 100% effective for 20+ years, right? I can see by your review that CA-correction software is completely undiscovered technology, but you should look into it. It's in every goddamn piece of imaging software now except microsoft paint.

[@ChristopherBurress]

This isn't a software review my guy. CA correction isn't perfect, especially when it's as severe as some of the rokinon lenses when they are wide open.

[@ChristopherBurress]

Also your premise is flawed, if you have to use software to fix the issues in one, then yes it produces a worse image than the other.

[@dubaitatili]

💓👍💓👍💓👍

[@Nickolas63000]

Greenville !!!

[@ChristopherBurress]

No one guessed that on this video yet!

[@EposVox]

360p squad

[@billcIintonvevo]

4k life over here :P

[@tahulanyon3995]

its actiually 33% extra from 12 to 16. 25% less vice versa

[@sharikmarius]

Odd comparison...

[@ChristopherBurress]

85k people were interested in it though.

[@sharikmarius]

@@ChristopherBurress Very true! And I watched the whole thing :) When saying "odd" I wasn't referring to the presentation, which I thought was well done. I was referring to WHAT was being compared (although yes, I understand that your viewers requested it). I just felt it was kinda an apples and oranges situation. Nevertheless, I learned a lot and enjoyed watching it.