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SIGNALIS with a side of salt

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ScottFalco

ScottFalco

Күн бұрын

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@Alufear
@Alufear 9 ай бұрын
One small note on the video for those who haven't played Signalis yet: Scott has included footage from a 3rd person mod to the game, whereas the vanilla version is strictly isometric.
@samuraicupcake289
@samuraicupcake289 9 ай бұрын
Except for some excellent scripted first-person segments. 😉👉
@TheMisterBerry
@TheMisterBerry 9 ай бұрын
Bump this higher, just in case newcomers might get the wrong impression! It is, in fact, a mod, and not the vanilla experience. I strongly urge people to pick this game up regardless, it's very good.
@BroAnarchy
@BroAnarchy 8 ай бұрын
yeah.... i was wondering about that...
@TheJunky228
@TheJunky228 3 ай бұрын
@@TheMisterBerry bought it on a whim for my switch without knowing what I was getting into. just the box caught my attention. definitely recommend this gamr
@agrimyleshen
@agrimyleshen 9 ай бұрын
This game ripped out my heart, torn it apart and then proceeded taking my 20€ while I still cry in the shower over the promise ending. Best decision I ever made
@floofyboi7546
@floofyboi7546 9 ай бұрын
I haven’t even played the game and it’s given me depressed brain worms just by watching play throughs
@MarkoIronFist
@MarkoIronFist 9 ай бұрын
Humble Bundle has a subscription option where you can temporarily play Signalis for 1 month for half the price.
@graphite7898
@graphite7898 9 ай бұрын
@@MarkoIronFistWith the Autumn Sale making the gaming cheaper already I don't see this as necessary. Not to mention that I'm not the biggest fan of cheaping out when it comes to small indie games like this one, the developers made an amazing game and they deserve every cent.
@samuraicupcake289
@samuraicupcake289 9 ай бұрын
Don't forget to play Die Toteninsel during that shower
@agrimyleshen
@agrimyleshen 9 ай бұрын
@@samuraicupcake289 i always chose Schwanensee to make it more dramatic
@commonviewer2488
@commonviewer2488 9 ай бұрын
Low poly robot girls are Scott's whole thing
@Entropic_Meat_Machine
@Entropic_Meat_Machine 9 ай бұрын
Signalis is a game with the most soul destroying story and the most schizophrenically wholesome fanbase.
@Aceshot-uu7yx
@Aceshot-uu7yx 9 ай бұрын
Reminds me of that one smut comic where the girl has one of the most awful lives possible. The Fandom then preceeded to turn incredibly wholesome and write fanfics about her being saved or living a good life. Perhaps this is a really strange pattern? One was Josuke from JoJo's healing her.
@Autistic_Menace00
@Autistic_Menace00 9 ай бұрын
By “wholesome” do you mean they’re all yuri artists?
@Aceshot-uu7yx
@Aceshot-uu7yx 9 ай бұрын
@@Autistic_Menace00 isn't the game about a lesbian couple?
@Entropic_Meat_Machine
@Entropic_Meat_Machine 9 ай бұрын
@@Autistic_Menace00 Hey that's not true, there's also Adler getting dommed by his 8 foot tall gf
@Autistic_Menace00
@Autistic_Menace00 9 ай бұрын
@@Aceshot-uu7yx yeah, but it’s not romantic fanart they’re drawing… and it’s got certain stylistic choices to it…
@KnightandDay33
@KnightandDay33 4 ай бұрын
The 3 phases of Signalis 1) Spooky 2) What is even going on 3) *The feels* and just repeat that until the end
@ARYS02
@ARYS02 3 ай бұрын
My 3 phases 1 Normal playthrough 2 playthrough for secret ending 3 playthrough with mod on 3 person camera
@WitchNakime
@WitchNakime 29 күн бұрын
1) oooh fun game 2) wdym no map 3) this pain won't leave me, it's been so long
@Cristiferbeast
@Cristiferbeast 9 ай бұрын
Ah I see you tried the camera mod! Glad you enjoyed it
@KaikipBT7
@KaikipBT7 9 ай бұрын
I RECOGNIZE YOU. THANKS FOR MAKING THE MOD. Made my 3rd playthrough a lot of fun.
@btchiaintkidding7837
@btchiaintkidding7837 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the mod my guy i appreciate it
@HardmodeAsgore
@HardmodeAsgore 9 ай бұрын
My favorite part about this game is that it specifically hints that equipping heal items lets them automatically be used when near-death, which is nice for learning boss attacks and all that or running around ammo-less, but if you actually *do* that, the game calls you a big fat cheater at the stats screen. 🍷🗿
@Oldage429
@Oldage429 7 ай бұрын
iirc the 'death cheated' counter is actually about using the push to interrupt enemy attacks just before they hit you, but I'm not 100% certain
@exyzt9877
@exyzt9877 4 ай бұрын
@Oldage429 in the game. if you reach the lowest health value, Critical, and avoid getting hit for long enough, it bumps you back up to Danger. Surviving on Critical, either through Natural Regeneration or Autoinjektors is what "Deaths Cheated" means, and if you do this at least 8 times, the game adds one point to the Promise ending, meaning you're more likely to get that ending specifically. Given that the Promise ending is arguably the best ending, not counting the secret Artifact ending, cheating death is actually a good thing.
@jooot_6850
@jooot_6850 19 күн бұрын
@@exyzt9877 I made a promise and not Hell or high water is stopping me!
@snowbud.
@snowbud. 9 ай бұрын
The editor did a great job with this one!
@a_mEmE
@a_mEmE 9 ай бұрын
Editor thinks they Max0r
@n3y
@n3y 9 ай бұрын
@@a_mEmE definitely took big inspiration from max0r, which is good good editing is good
@bookerzerg3570
@bookerzerg3570 9 ай бұрын
@@a_mEmE it’s done by Conjent it’s in the description
@topcat59
@topcat59 9 ай бұрын
Signalis is honestly the best silent Hill game we are ever going to get in this timeline.😺
@JeffreyThrash
@JeffreyThrash 9 ай бұрын
Sounds more like classic Resident Evil based on the impressions I got from this review, but that’s still cool. I imagine it’s basically impossible to top Silent Hill 2 in particular.
@morriganrenfield8240
@morriganrenfield8240 9 ай бұрын
@@JeffreyThrashthe psychological aspects are what silent hill was about so that’s likely where they mean
@blackfoxdraco1585
@blackfoxdraco1585 9 ай бұрын
Nah signalis 2
@nevinmyers1245
@nevinmyers1245 9 ай бұрын
@@JeffreyThrash gameplay is resident evil but atmosphere and presentation is silent hill
@iwannaplayssbb6665
@iwannaplayssbb6665 9 ай бұрын
I hope not, the story was bad with capital B
@D3Cemertic
@D3Cemertic 9 ай бұрын
Signalis was one of the only games that made me emotional about fictional characters, and I do not regret becoming absolutely devastated because of it.
@melvinborrayo2723
@melvinborrayo2723 8 ай бұрын
Wizard money gang
@june_005
@june_005 9 ай бұрын
Literally just played through Signalis not even a few days ago and this comes out, this is horrifying.
@Some_Fucker
@Some_Fucker 9 ай бұрын
Dude same I beat the game a couple hours before the video came out very creepy
@june_005
@june_005 9 ай бұрын
@@Soapy_Papoose I'm certain, trust me, I spent multiple days combing through this games story. It's one of the most tragic pieces of media I've been exposed to lately.
@lilygro1312
@lilygro1312 9 ай бұрын
Synchronicity moment
@olegazavr5141
@olegazavr5141 9 ай бұрын
Same here. It's bioresonance
@ratfink2079
@ratfink2079 9 ай бұрын
I see signalis, I click
@thelaughingdragon32
@thelaughingdragon32 9 ай бұрын
I've seen the comment before!
@Bluecho4
@Bluecho4 9 ай бұрын
Same
@CamelliaC-fc4gv
@CamelliaC-fc4gv 9 ай бұрын
Love how he says "I don't wanna spoil the game!" as if anyone has any fucking idea whats happening in this god-forsaken game.
@addmen96
@addmen96 4 ай бұрын
After watching hour long explanation, I think some people figured it out
@KlldbyCuriosity
@KlldbyCuriosity 3 ай бұрын
@@addmen96 Funny thing is they're all both wrong and right
@Sonicblaster89
@Sonicblaster89 9 ай бұрын
Super happy that more and more people have been talking about and enjoying this game !! One of my favorite details is how Ariane draws the Kolibri with cauliflower heads, so cute !
@mishaquimbly2576
@mishaquimbly2576 9 ай бұрын
Im so happy more people are giving this game attention. Its a genuinely beautiful game and a disturbing horror once the story starts to ramp up.
@seangrissom2716
@seangrissom2716 9 ай бұрын
Do you remember the Promise we made? Nothing like the instructions the empire left for you after a certain amount of time in that ship left me with greater rage, truly fantastic placement of lines to tell you how that gameworld was built.
@lordplague420
@lordplague420 9 ай бұрын
I LOVED Signalis, my only wish was that it had a New Game+ with unlockable weapons and stuff 😭💖❤️‍🔥🌹
@BrenGamerYT
@BrenGamerYT 9 ай бұрын
I wasn't expecting the new editing style, so it threw me a little, but it's really fun! They did a great job
@jameslawrenson1208
@jameslawrenson1208 9 ай бұрын
It fits.
@squiddu
@squiddu 8 ай бұрын
it's fine, it's just weird how the editor decided that, out of all people, they were going to nearly one-to-one copy Max0r's editing style
@NeoTechi
@NeoTechi 9 ай бұрын
Last year, I played Signalis for about 3ish hours and enjoyed it, but unfortunately, I did not have a lot of time to sit down and play any games the end of 2022. A year later, I decided since it was Oct 2023 to play a spooky/horror kind of game and Signalis was at the top of the list. The 1.2 update with the increased inventory size to 8 and the flashlight not taking up an inventory slot was such a breath of fresh air because honestly that was my one critique about the game. There's so many key items that backtracking was constant, I'd pick up an item and immediately keep going back and forth to the save room to deposit items and felt it broke up the flow in an unnecessary manner. I finished Signalis about 2wks ago and I can say that this game went immediately to my top 10 list of all-time.
@silverroy121
@silverroy121 9 ай бұрын
Literally found out about this game recently, how did i miss a masterpiece like this is beyond me. Cigarette Wife is already one of my new fav video game tracks.
@KaikipBT7
@KaikipBT7 9 ай бұрын
YES. This game needs all the attention in the world, thank you Scott. The 3rd Person POV is from a mod for anyone's information, one that the devs may potentially add in the future.
@armageddon845
@armageddon845 9 ай бұрын
Signalis comes from the Evangelion school of storytelling- plenty of lore, but it's really hard to tell what's actually going on.
@kamanira
@kamanira 8 ай бұрын
I was not expecting Max0r-esque editing here, but not bad! Loved Signalis, just finished it last night. Gotta say, this Side of Salt lacked the salt, and I'm not complaining. Seeing you just enjoy stuff is awesome.
@billybobbobing8259
@billybobbobing8259 9 ай бұрын
This game was quite fun. The story stuck with me for quite a while after I played :)
@aaronatkinson177
@aaronatkinson177 9 ай бұрын
Me to what a masterpiece 😍 🤧
@clarafedde8674
@clarafedde8674 9 ай бұрын
Is it survival horror if the protagonist is a robot???? Yes it is. And boy does stabbing that $#&@# at the end feels so good.
@mkzhero
@mkzhero 4 ай бұрын
"Robot space lesbians" SAY NO MORE
@brayenmorrison3199
@brayenmorrison3199 9 ай бұрын
It's pretty good. Resident Evil and Silent Hill inspired indeed. I've even been working on a game with a similiar style. I just need to work on my animation, computer and programming skills.
@kairowkuroshi1371
@kairowkuroshi1371 9 ай бұрын
I finished this game recently. And I've seen many people talk about this game more and more. And this game Took my heart at Ransom, gave it back brutally damaged. And only memes and wholesome animations to fill in the massive Hole the game gave me.
@kellerweskier7214
@kellerweskier7214 7 ай бұрын
the game so good, that it has placed a new wonder-of-the-world upon our generations in how the hell this story ACTUALLY plays out, what things mean, and generally WTF is going on. Like how you never actually play as ELTR-512.. the ENTIRE game.
@Shadowofawolf
@Shadowofawolf 9 ай бұрын
Literally just started replaying this game yesterday. It's great.
@ak47shorty53
@ak47shorty53 9 ай бұрын
Love a game that just leaves you staring at the end screen and wanting more. Signalis was an amazing experience.
@Dokterkiller
@Dokterkiller 9 ай бұрын
Ever since release I've been enthralled with Signalis and seeing that the community is still going hard and strong brings me so much joy. I literally just started another playthrough the other day, long live Signalis
@ADumbPie
@ADumbPie 9 ай бұрын
Ah yes, my fav game, tall hot robot lesbians and dread that reminds me of evangelion For some reason.
@aaronatkinson177
@aaronatkinson177 9 ай бұрын
One of my new favorite games 🎮 😍
@izaakaz6863
@izaakaz6863 6 ай бұрын
Inventory slots are not for "accessibility". They are for difficulty.
@dr.1277
@dr.1277 9 ай бұрын
For a moment I thought Max0r edited this, but This was way too comprehensible to be that.
@jameswalton5733
@jameswalton5733 9 ай бұрын
Glad to see this game finally getting some recognition, played it when it first came out and had to *_SUFFER_* the fact none of my friends were classic horror survival fans except *_1_*
@amanofnoreputation2164
@amanofnoreputation2164 9 ай бұрын
The thing _Signalis_ excells at probably above anything else is the lore. Read everything you can about the lore and play the game mutliple times if you want to get the most out of it. You're not really supposed to figure out what's happening, but it's really fun to try.
@TehPiemaygor
@TehPiemaygor 9 ай бұрын
I'm surprised he didn't mention Silent Hill. The game felt more Silent Hill than Resident Evil. Especially with its sound design.
@MrSourceMan
@MrSourceMan 9 ай бұрын
Signalis is easily one of my favorite game experiences that I've had this year, and given it's only $20 (on sale right now) it's easily worth it. The story, setting and universe are also fantastic. Super engaging to theory craft about.
@chiffer1787
@chiffer1787 3 ай бұрын
I usually hate horror but signalis is so damn good. Definitely helps that its mostly atmospherically spooky and unsettling instead of having jumpscares and whatnot
@pesto841
@pesto841 9 ай бұрын
Best survival horror in recent years. No cap
@bitabitesalty5164
@bitabitesalty5164 9 ай бұрын
I never knew the artist was making a game so when i found out it was a shock but damn it looks great
@ksilva2848
@ksilva2848 9 ай бұрын
I remember when this channel had what, 70k subs or something and I was watching Sig and Tressa, damn, how far you've come. Keep up the great work and thanks for the recommendation!
@cursedcat9557
@cursedcat9557 9 ай бұрын
Playing through the game just feels like going through Blame! but you dont have Killy's GBE
@andrewowens4421
@andrewowens4421 9 ай бұрын
It really does feel like something Nihei Tsutomu would make. The atmosphere fits so well with his style that you'd think he had some input in it's development.
@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin
@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin 9 ай бұрын
I honestly wonder how many people quit the game dissatisfied after getting the fake out ending
@CeHee123
@CeHee123 9 ай бұрын
The game is currently on sale for people who are interested.
@peterwhite6415
@peterwhite6415 9 ай бұрын
About the Thermite/Crimson method of permantly killing monster that come back to life after a while.: Im actually not 100% sure on why that wasnt done again, but I have to imagine that this method would get frustating after a while if you think about it... plus in most cases, you might get good at dodging and running past enemies, so you save up on inventory space for more important items. This was likely a reason why it isnt used anymore, since players early in the game will find a way to dodge danger, and late game theyll have ammo spilling out of their pockets, alongside whatever explosives they have in their shirt pockets. In addition, this item only really has use IF you have to go back and foward in a specific area, wich become less usefull if the area was: - Really wide meaning you can run around it - Has alternative paths that are less dangerous - the area is part of a really linear horror game, so there isnt really a reason to go back and forth if you only have to move foward.
@BeeBeBees
@BeeBeBees 9 ай бұрын
good lord did Maxor edit this?
@Luminousrift
@Luminousrift 7 ай бұрын
Conjent is going places man im so down with this editing style, feels very max0r inspired
@crimsonsxrazor8243
@crimsonsxrazor8243 5 ай бұрын
Signalis give me depression 10/10 would do the promised ending again
@bluelfsuma
@bluelfsuma 9 ай бұрын
"I should go to sleep, my eyes are dry af and the sun is rising-" *ScottFalco uploads* _"You sunovabich."_
@Frille512
@Frille512 5 ай бұрын
That's just how it is man
@TreytheMilkDrinker
@TreytheMilkDrinker 7 ай бұрын
Is no one going to talk about how he has robot arms now and have them for every video after this?
@waroonh4291
@waroonh4291 9 ай бұрын
Ahh, a lot of visitor ... welcome to Signalist elevator shaft, you can get in and stay with us until the end of time.
@KRISYPHER
@KRISYPHER 8 ай бұрын
This game really is a hidden gem, its one of my favourites now and i dont think ill ever forget it
@ConceptsYep
@ConceptsYep 9 ай бұрын
The video felt hard to follow with everything flashing and appearing/disappearing so fast you can't compute what it was
@A_Humming_Bird
@A_Humming_Bird 8 ай бұрын
I heard robot lesbians, this video is now sanctioned by AEON.
@m.s.e.advanced2842
@m.s.e.advanced2842 9 ай бұрын
Signalis is my favorite Silent Hill game. Truly peak Saphiction
@meowmeowcatcat8
@meowmeowcatcat8 9 ай бұрын
Played Signalis before any of the big updates mentioned in the video. It was great then and it’s great now.
@myntmetro
@myntmetro 9 ай бұрын
The "Max0r Editing Style" threw me off so hard omg. Anyway this game's been on my radar and now that the sales are coming out I'm thinking of picking it up
@DiamondCalibre
@DiamondCalibre 9 ай бұрын
this game is a soft uwu yuri visual novel and is great for anyone wanting lighthearted slice of life romance! it won't rip your heart out and make you cry! promise :)
@LSamoht
@LSamoht 9 ай бұрын
The editing style of Conjent was really cool ! Nice work !
@Dzapa95422
@Dzapa95422 9 ай бұрын
I miss the original animated clips.
@popopopoqwerty
@popopopoqwerty 9 ай бұрын
Played it around release. And while the gameplay is kinda mediocre overall the game is fantastic. Story and aesthetics are pure art.
@magnificmango336
@magnificmango336 9 ай бұрын
Scott is talking about the GOAT, this is not a drill
@Fellow_geto_enjoyer
@Fellow_geto_enjoyer 4 ай бұрын
Small side note the inventory settings are only on pc meaning all the consoles versions don't have that kinda sucks since I played it on switch
@sanimonz1831
@sanimonz1831 3 ай бұрын
On the inventory slot thing I argue it adds more than detracts if your not so hard pressed on having everything when moving around. Maybe take a shotgun and ammo and avoid most fights, maybe bring a pistol and health and max stun batons and just tank through some enemies, maybe bring a extra bit of ammo sacrificing that slot if you dont need a flash light or something. I say their is not really a good reason to not have 3 open slots minimum in a given time as long as you are changing your playstyle to suit what you have. Also never use the camera, bait item pen and paper cost no inventory slots xD
@BroAnarchy
@BroAnarchy 8 ай бұрын
just started playing this game... have to say, the Silent Hill and Early Resident Evil vibes are definitely hitting high notes....and the OST is also great, too.
@hz883
@hz883 9 ай бұрын
Things that have learnt to walk ought to salt
@LiamMazeika
@LiamMazeika 8 ай бұрын
Stubs??? Those are her PAWS
@elimann9989
@elimann9989 9 ай бұрын
“Scott when all his issues are simply related to him always being dumb”
@lecat127
@lecat127 9 ай бұрын
Love the older model. It's fresh and shows how you have matured as a person and channel
@cherryxi0
@cherryxi0 9 ай бұрын
signalis is honestly one of the best games ive ever played the one and only game that made me actually SOB at the end
@orangesoda4535
@orangesoda4535 6 күн бұрын
The only puzzle I thought was unfair wascthe B6 postbox. I found the key, but had no indication of where to find the postbox until I looked up a guide.
@squidrecluse2336
@squidrecluse2336 9 ай бұрын
Other than changing the inventory, does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the difficulty? This looks like an interesting play, and folks are saying the story is good, but my skills aren't as sharp as they were in my younger days.
@Deadflower20xx
@Deadflower20xx 9 ай бұрын
There's a casual mode that makes it very easy. Even the normal mode is very very tame by survival horror standards. As in, you can blast down every single enemy in the game and still have ammo to spare when the credits roll.
@Dantonfall
@Dantonfall 6 ай бұрын
This really reminds me of Project Zomboid. It’s top-down perspective, the combat, the fact you have to stomp the enemies head in… Ok on second thought I will try this game when my PC is fixed.
@StoneEagle194
@StoneEagle194 9 ай бұрын
I just replayed the game 2 days ago. What the hell man, a synchronicity with a video about a game about synchronicity
@labbit35
@labbit35 7 ай бұрын
Signalis is a good game because you got a cool looking game, lesbian robots, and a story that would give you the big sad.
@amanofnoreputation2164
@amanofnoreputation2164 9 ай бұрын
One really important tip to remember is that you can use thermite flares on enemies the same way you would a stun prod: let's you take them down _and_ burn them in one attack for maximum efficency -- pretty much lets you one-shot the first boss.
@quadabyte8933
@quadabyte8933 9 ай бұрын
This new style of editing you're doing is giving me sensory overload.
@theprepaintedcanvis3452
@theprepaintedcanvis3452 7 ай бұрын
Woah- this editing is very max0r like. Props to the editor!
@cptn.penguin902
@cptn.penguin902 9 ай бұрын
Love how much and how regular you've been making content lately, my dude 👍
@icebeast9181
@icebeast9181 9 ай бұрын
more people are talking about this game finally thank you
@oldkingcole4354
@oldkingcole4354 9 ай бұрын
So Slimecicle is definitely gonna play this at some point, seems right up his alley
@andrewowens4421
@andrewowens4421 9 ай бұрын
Game definitely scratches that "horror" genre itch, and who doesn't love space lesbians?
@makesthemusic6340
@makesthemusic6340 7 ай бұрын
I feel like it’d be wrong to say there should be a “side of salt” when it should only be a pinch. Signalis is by far one of the best horror games of current time.
@guylego5706
@guylego5706 9 ай бұрын
Crazy as soon as I finish watching your twitch vods which I watched as soon as I finished the game, you upload this
@raleo7466
@raleo7466 9 ай бұрын
Omg the editing has improved by a lot, nice quality video. Also love the new avatar and it's expressions!
@mycomnithegreat434
@mycomnithegreat434 5 ай бұрын
1:51 FAIR POINT, why not? At least for optional hard mode!
@shadowmeka.5205
@shadowmeka.5205 9 ай бұрын
this game is GOATED with the sauce no cap
@EliasSpacer
@EliasSpacer 9 ай бұрын
I’ve heard of a few people talking about this game and it seems pretty fun! Thanks for the recommendation Scott. New editor, by the way? I feel they could tone it down a smidge, bit too much going on. BUT, digging the new avatar and expressions!
@loyalist6686
@loyalist6686 8 ай бұрын
Ive seen so many fan animations and wanted to find out about LORE and Gameplay then I found this. Many thanks lad.
@kalenics123
@kalenics123 9 ай бұрын
There isn't much music but then Cigarette Wife.
@Stellartist_E
@Stellartist_E 9 ай бұрын
Gotta love the max0r editing on this one
@alleosussquirt8041
@alleosussquirt8041 9 ай бұрын
The fact the enemies don't stay dead is the part that made it hard to enjoy this game for me.
@rachelc8368
@rachelc8368 9 ай бұрын
Really good video. I appreciate the new editor's little memes (at least I think that's who added those) very cool!
@lrgogo1517
@lrgogo1517 9 ай бұрын
I was so convinced in less than five seconds that Scott had hired Max0r to edit the video, but it wasn't him. I tried one of the editor's vids and _OMG this is just like Max0r._ Mr. Conjent has downloaded every little quirk of x0's presentation. Is his style becoming a genre now?
@sheeppf5265
@sheeppf5265 8 ай бұрын
I can't believe this is not System Shock meets Resident Evil!
@mungeons
@mungeons 9 ай бұрын
adding this to my wish list thank you, scott
@Thepoopster44
@Thepoopster44 9 ай бұрын
Imagine if Scott found out about overkill.
@chester1882
@chester1882 9 ай бұрын
Ah yes, Signalis. The game where the devs take great faith in the player to click their save after the supposed first ending
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