Silent Hill 2 - DirectX 11 vs DirectX 12 - Benchmark Comparison

[@Einuhreins]

ue4 stutter during gameplay. ue5 gameplay during stutter. ue6 dlss ultra hyper performance with framequadrupelation is recommended

[@54fps]

hahaha

[@tvcultural68]

The FPS difference was larger here. In the city, the increase was from 53 FPS to 63 FPS in DirectX 11. Inside the club, I noticed a difference of over 20 FPS, jumping from 43 FPS to 76 FPS. I have a 3060 Ti.

[@Jamalas420]

Same in hospital from 70-80 fps to 100-120 fps

[@lance9986]

how do i run the game at dx11?

[@jdmendieta52]

wtf

[@astrojxhn7960]

@@lance9986create a shortcut from your folder of the actual game and in the shortcut go in properties and target name just add a space and -dx11 then save and you’re done

[@sgtdypen]

​​@@lance9986 -dx11 at launch option or shortcut exe target

[@Tomas91709]

Man reach wood side apartments u will see biggest fps difference there

[@Harsh-do7uw]

Just low the shadows

[@Tomas91709]

@@Harsh-do7uw There game runs almost the same on lowest or the highest settings shadows there gives u like extra 5-8 fps

[@martinvr12]

Rtx 4090 was around 40fps at 1440p. Crazy.

[@thatzaliasguy]

Thanks to playing on Linux, VKD3D (DX12 over Vulkan) eliminates the stutters. You can do similar in Windows if you grab the DLLs for DXVK (d3d11.dll + dxgi.dll) and VKD3D (d3d12.dll) and drop all three of these into the game's directory alongside the executable. Both DLSS and FSR image stability is far better under Vulkan than DirectX as well. *For those using -DX11, you can still get the Vulkan benefit by using the DXVK DLLs under Windows with the d3d11.dll + dxgi.dll

[@gabriel.br997]

Where can I get this VKD3D ? For windows

[@mako6441]

⁠​⁠@@gabriel.br997 I think it’s in a separate GitHub Version 2.13

[@damiank9443]

@@gabriel.br997 google dxvk

[@mako6441]

⁠@@gabriel.br997 its 2 separate downloads dxvk-2.4.1 and vkd3d-proton-2.13

[@thatzaliasguy]

@@gabriel.br997 from the github

[@williamwen3477]

DX12 = more ram & vram usage, lower fps

[@Crimsongz]

DX 12 and Unreal Engine ruined PC gaming

[@roklaca3138]

I cannot believe since dx12 release devs still have problems doing it right...this should really be adressed since dx12 doesnt offer any improvement with non competent devs.

[@guilgs94]

The game runs with software RT on by default, when you trigger it on in options, you're using the hardware mode. My guess is when you run on dx11, you force it to disable and then you gain some extra fps. You may notice less Vram usage on every scenarios.

[@ml_serenity]

@@guilgs94 there is no software RT. No CPU on the market would survive that.

[@DrkTrx]

@@ml_serenity It's Software RT because it's done by the shaders units of the GPU, don't use the dedicated RT hardware.

[@shinjiikarir]

whats the advantage of dx12 again?

[@alo0ann]

RayTracing and new features only.

[@igm1571]

In DX11, you cant use Raytracing and FSR3(dont know why).

[@alo0ann]

@@igm1571 dx11 came before them. That's why

[@marcelosouzaa1998]

@@igm1571 FSR since 2.0 is a DirectX 12 feature, it's been like this for a long time..

[@rodrigoalbornoz8210]

rt, upscalers and i think that users with a newer gpu like nvidia series 2xxx until now, it runs better (i dont know, just supose) in this game using dx 11 you have tsr and fsr1.0 but using dx12 you have fsr3.0, xess, dlss, and rt. but dx12 consumes a litte bit more of vram, in older cards or pcie limited, it is a notoriuous impact

[@coolmacatrain9434]

What resolution are you set at? I'm running a 4070 Super and I have to come down to nearly 1080p to get those frame-rates.

[@Baz87100]

Just watch the first 1-3 seconds bro....

[@coolmacatrain9434]

@@Baz87100 Yeah, I see it now. I thought it had to be 1080p by the framerates he was getting.

[@thebigcj517]

Why 54 FPS

[@ezray2256]

because 11 was taken😄

[@viktorfeherps5gameplays681]

Still no patch out yet...whats wrong with these developers

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

AMD user? Runs great on my 4080.

[@K1LLW1N]

@@Dr.WhetFarts 4080 Super user here. Stutters. Maybe I should cap fps, tried everything else lol

[@crisppzanuff4398]

@@Dr.WhetFarts it stutters everywhere even on the 4090 lol your 4080 aint special xD everyone has stutters even reviewers said it.

[@K1LLW1N]

Didn't work, but setting the game to launch with dx9 helped. Or its a placebo effect. Tried dx11 but the game wouldn't run or would crash on launch.

[@desmond3245]

Wokong, Silent hill 2, UE5 is a traversal stutter simulator.

[@GPUid21]

Dx11 more fps but make my CPU drop to -5% usage and Ray Tracing not available.

[@patrickcampos6743]

If you're having performance problems you should not use Ray Tracing.

[@I-MAC]

@@patrickcampos6743 But we bought RTX because of Ray Tracing. This game still needs optimization.

[@guilgs94]

@@I-MAC We can't buy non-RTX cards anymore, lol. Nvidia stopped making GTX cards at 16 series. Only 70, 80 and 90 cards has a decent RT performance, below this you may have problems in some games.

[@prathmeshbhumkar6182]

Which is the benchmark app?

[@MrEleman]

Question does tracing work on DX11 or only with 12?

[@54fps]

dx12

[@ricarnuninho80]

DXR requires DX12 or newer version of DX.

[@luxoflux5064]

Is there any real difference between the 2 rendering API? Like, any noticeable graphic difference at some point?

[@thatzaliasguy]

@@luxoflux5064 an API doesn't dictate graphics quality, just feature complexity level and pipeline efficiency. There's no _visual_ difference between Vulkan and DirectX. An API is an _instruction_ set to tell hardware what to process, and in what order of operations.

[@victormagnum2275]

There is very little difference between DX11 and DX12 in terms of features that the player will notice. I would say that the only thing that you sacrifice is raytracing, if any.

[@thatzaliasguy]

@@victormagnum2275 upscaling techniques such as FSR and DLSS are also only available on DX12 and Vulkan.

[@UnclePablo2201]

Stutter Hill 2.

[@waroogames]

eh?? the problem is your pc XD mune runs perfectly

@@waroogames Trust me, it stutters on everything. Console, PC... everything. Some has small stutters, barely noticeable, some has much bigger. But the frame pacing is definitely off way too often. I wish Bloober Team would fix it but it's such a common Unreal Engine 5 issue, I'm not sure if it's possible for them to fix it.

[@UnclePablo2201]

@@waroogames Unless you close your eyes. Watch Alex's analysis from Digital Foundry and stop being a clown. Runs perfectly... xD

[@waroogames]

@@UnclePablo2201 hahhahahhaa Digital Fountry when is a good reference??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@marcelosouzaa1998]

@@waroogames Always has been. Mine stutters as well, it's unreal engine 5 issue.

[@nixette8368]

I noticed that doing this messes up controllers, dualshock4 in my case. It makes the sensitivity higher and registers d-pad inputs twice.

[@mob9900]

use steam input instead ds4windows

[@ricarnuninho80]

But HW RT (Hardware raytracing) doesn't support DX11.

[@rodrigoalbornoz8210]

For me that i have an rx 6500xt 4gb, the difference is huge. In dx12 i can't play because it drops down to 16 fps with settings to low, fsr3 performance and all the settings i can put down to low, i did it and it is not playable. In dx11 is other world, i am playing at 1080p native medium settings, low textures, without any upscaler and it reachs 30 but it is a beautiful image. I cant go down more settings, put all to low and 75% res and it goes to 65 to 80 fps. I think it is for the vram.. in god of war ragnarok it happens the same, no matter how low i put the game, it is unplayable because it drops fps and stays under 20..

[@goodgame1509]

Как переключить на разные Директрисы?

[@IDrak3n]

Правой кнопкой по ярлыку игры -> Свойства. Вкладка "Ярлык". В окне объекта нужно дописать -dx11. Будет выглядеть так: ...\SILENT HILL 2\SHProto.exe" -dx11. Вот только никаких улучшений лично мне это не принесло. ФПС упал в 2 раза.

[@HaiderAli-e3m]

Bro I have bought Rx 580 which is better fsr 1 or fsr 2

[@erdalkamiloglu4683]

Amd GPUs are better with FSR probably?

[@Raphaeeemoccachitebbiv]

fsr2, but in some cases TSR is the better choice

[@erdalkamiloglu4683]

@@Raphaeeemoccachitebbiv As I have seen, DLSS better.

[@Raphaeeemoccachitebbiv]

@@erdalkamiloglu4683 DLSS is Always better, but it is avaliable only on NVIDIA's GPU

[@muzzle_4717]

@@erdalkamiloglu4683 you can't use dlss on amd GPUs.

[@radysg5176]

i was expecting a patch few days after its released since it has stuttering problem, i finished the game now, i think they was not planning to release any patches soon, this is the game no patch nothing, just finish it and be done with it

[@julius6916]

Does DLSS work's in DX11? or no?

[@robertoalonso8932]

DLSS works on DX11. If you use DXVK along with DX11 you get rid of almost all stutter in the game but you loose DLSS, so DXVK+DX11 = no sttuter, no DLSS and more fps. DX11 = DLSS, more fps and less stutter than DX12. DX12 = DLSS, less fps and stutter fest

[@muzzle_4717]

yes it works, only Ray tracing doesn't work

[@JohnJohn-pm9wq]

@@robertoalonso8932How do I get DXVK?

[@danielbonillo6041]

There is any tutorial to play the game whit dx11?

[@54fps]

add -DX11 to the Shortcut or Steam launch options

[@GrumpyCat97]

does DX11 fix stutters?

[@54fps]

no

[@gamalielhurtadotoruno9015]

What about the stutters? Gone on dx11?

[@YABPOIGRAL_]

NOPE )) ( 3070 )

[@gamalielhurtadotoruno9015]

@@YABPOIGRAL_ well... Thanks for the response 👍

[@dylanhawk2974]

@@gamalielhurtadotoruno9015 i saw that its an issue with loading the map for the first time, someone said second playthrough has no stutters. still ridiculous

[@muzzle_4717]

@@dylanhawk2974 remove all data except the savegames folder from the folder Users/appdata/USERNAME/Local/SilentHill2 and the major stutters will go away

[@muzzle_4717]

remove all data except the savegames folder from the folder Users/appdata/USERNAME/Local/SilentHill2 and the major stutters will go away

[@Raphaeeemoccachitebbiv]

how can i change directX? The game start default with directx12

[@necrotic256]

You add a command to .exe file

[@UrQuietGamer]

Add -dx11 as a launch parameter

[@Raphaeeemoccachitebbiv]

@@UrQuietGamer ok thanks

[@kuba23602]

I had to refund this game because it keeps crashing, at the beginning whenever, I would start a new game, does anyone have the same problem ?

[@im_a_God]

How change?

[@cesartoni86]

You can write -dx11 on shortcut game. Example: "...Silent Hill 2 Remake\SHProto.exe" - dx11, save and play.

[@Platinum199]

@@cesartoni86 yeah, or also use the steam launch option

[@cesartoni86]

@@Platinum199 Yes, go to properties > options -dx11.

[@Master_Noi]

В игре 12 директ не работает отдельно .

[@KenneXS]

Does not worth! lose Dlss or fsr for just 10 fps give or take while you can double the fps with upscaling

You don't lose DLSS! You lose FSR3 though. And Raytracing.

[@cfif_asd]

врубайте 9ый дирекс

[@freakman001]

Жду мод на directx 8.1 для оригинального экспириенса!

[@a2raya772]

Vulkan would have been better to have in the game than the dog sht DX 11 and 12

[@reinkanser7814]

The stutters also get worst the longer you play the game.

[@54fps]

ye

[@IncognitaEX]

Less VRAM and similar results 🤔

[@AzalofForossa]

DX12 uses more vram in general. It's newer technology, and newer tech has higher requirement floors. There was a time where 1gb of vram was future proof.

[@Platinum199]

@@AzalofForossa thats crazy, im still a new pc gamer sorta so i cant even imagine what that was like

[@gamefandrg]

FSR 3 Frame Generation would get more fps

[@jasonstout8582]

You can actually turn on FSR3 FG in UE5 if you're running Dx12. In Engine.ini you can right click and open with NotePad (only while the game is running and make sure you close and restart after), then at the very bottom add [SystemSettings] and under that type r.FidelityFX.FI.Enabled=1 and then just make sure you turn on FSR3 and it will nearly double your FPS from the game engine

[@Nyxxi.]

They look the same

[@Melianoyd]

try vulkan next

[@andytopp6371]

why the fu.. there are not implenting vulkan? Every game i have what have this option, run way more smooth and with higher FPS as DX12...most of the time even without these micro stutter.

[@m1ke876]

How to change dx 12 to dx11?

[@aaronbarlianta]

You just type in -dx11 in the launch option

[@magnomliman8114]

DX 11 clean frame tims but you cant use Ray tracing .RT makes hug visual deference in this game.

[@GT4tube]

Dx12 Eat RAM

[@magnetar3437]

No changes

[@Mojtab999]

What about the stuttering? The most issue on this game is stuttering

[@ProjectMore69]

Cause you dweebs are exceeding your vram limits on your toasters. Turn the textures down

[@FsicX]

@@ProjectMore69 clearly you dont even play the game the game have traversal stutering no matter how expensive your nvme no matter how much vram your gpu have you will get stuter

[@nemesisrtx]

Every Unreal Engine game will stutter, at this point there is nothing that can be done, even with DX11, now, you may see more stuttering if you have a GPU with less than 8gb, other than that, the common traversal stutter across all hardware will still happen

[@ProjectMore69]

@@FsicX wanna make a bet? And i play it maxed at 4k, smooth as butter no stutters. You toaster boys need to learn how to lower the settings or your expectations of your aging relics and also get with the times and ditch those mechanical hard drives 😂 I have no problems making a video of the game and my rig. My GPU alone probably is worth more than your entire pc 😂

[@ProjectMore69]

@@nemesisrtx speak yourself toaster king

[@oliver.castellote]

si es asi la 5070 solo es una mejora para los que vengan de una serie xx60