Silent Hill 2 Remake - ENDING

[@artincendi]

The thing with Laura is that mary didn't die 3 years ago. Mary died fairly recently. James just supressed the memory super hard, that he says mary "died" when she was diagnosed 3 years ago.

Or maybe that time, Mary was dead to James, that's maybe why he trusts the delusion that she died 3 years ago. But that's a theory.

[@cptmacbernick]

Mary corpse is in the back of his car at the start of the game. He was planning to bury her before Silent Hill called upon him.

@@cptmacbernick Damn, now I made myself oblivious and dumb. Oh well...

[@HeavenCent1]

​@@cptmacbernickno way

[@feralnonsense]

​@@cptmacbernick Is this like visible in the game?

[@calvinmcdaniel4299]

Dude the actor for james deserves an award for his scenes. The way he was able to portray desperation, grief, anger, and some joy was fantastic

[@roxie2179]

💯

[@SkoomaCatnip]

Luke Roberts is Jame's actor. You might know him from Black Sails.

[@kukuhimanputraraharja8084]

and some top negative review for sh2 remake on steam says james's new voice sounds too generic or something compared to the original. though i think thats wrong. the new va for james feel more connected to the situations he's experiencing while at the same time trying to maintain a calm neutral facade to control his sanity.

[@calvinmcdaniel4299]

@@kukuhimanputraraharja8084 i really agree, I think some people are too harsh on this remake, like I get it, it's never going to be the og or beat it but honestly, this is honestly a near faithful remake with tastefully done additions. I personally am going to say a hot take, i prefer the remake to the original, and that's just my opinion

[@topbloke1683]

i find him completely bland and had zero emotion 😂 like in real life youd definitely avoid conversation with him

[@ladychelseaofthevoid]

I think James' sexual frustration is far more complicated than "he wants his hot, sexy wife back." He's more three-dimensional than that. He does feel sexually frustrated but he also feels guilty for his urges. People will argue that the Maria ending shows him as a callous sex pest who just wants a hotter Mary. The illness stripped Mary of her beauty and her kindness. James hates himself for his inability to cope with her dying. He is not a selfish, horny man - he is a desperate, grief-stricken, lonely man who has entered a dissociative fugue state. I don't say this to defend his actions. He's guilty, but he definitely knows it and the town is punishing him accordingly.

[@mayanose7875]

In the beginning of the game I didn’t like James, since it was obvious he did something / didn’t want to admit to himself something. (I’ve never seen silent hill story before) As the story went on I got that same exact feeling. He isn’t just a guy that hated his sick wife because she got sick and wasn’t hot just an inconvenience. I think he was consumed by his guilt of loving her but the pain of watching someone die makes you want them gone. It’s like torture and you just want them to “die already”.

[@nonnon6856]

Out of the four protagonists, James is the only one who deserves what the town did to him

[@voidnoidoid]

he's got caretaker burnout. what he's going through sucks but he definitely deserves what silent hill is doing to him. at least james subconsciously knows hes a bad person and the guilt is eating him alive

[@shinigamiinochi]

@@nonnon6856 that's always been the interesting part to me. James is the only one who actually took an innocent life. Angela killed her father and brother out of self-defense and Eddie didn't actually kill anyone, either before silent hill or during. Yet James is the only one of the 3 that has a chance of redemption. I've always believed that Silent Hill doesn't really punish anyone. Just like we see in the first game, the town reflects what's inside of people. All 3 of them believe they deserve to be punished. Even pyramid head isn't punishing James, just echoing his own actions. It's the part of himself that he needed to go through with killing Mary and, depending on what ending you get, he's the only one who is able to let go of that part of himself.

[@ApexGale]

​@@mayanose7875 Not only that, but as Mary's disease progressed she got more emotionally unstable. James was the one who bore the brunt of it. Her illness changed her, through no fault of her own. Yet James still tried to do right by her, because he knew it wasn't her fault. Could you imagine being berated and verbally abused by the person you love? You can tell yourself that they're just sick, it's not their fault, but that doesn't stop the words from hurting. Nobody is really at fault here. This is just what it's like when life deals you a bad hand. James and Mary had their future vanish before their eyes and their circumstances dragged them both down. It's why it's kind of silly when people crap on James all the time. What he did came from a place of both love and hatred - he hated that he had to spend so much time trapped in an ongoing limbo waiting for his wife to pass away. That hatred wouldn't exist if he didn't absolutely love her.

[@kenossa666]

I think the sequence of the fight with Abstract Daddy has a second meaning too - basically he attacks from nowhere, you expect him but don't know when or where from he will come. Then he disappears, leaving you in silence for some time, just to come back again and do horrible stuff. It's the same as when he actually went to Angela's room and did what he did.

[@komerihimura]

The claustrophobic hallways really sell the idea as well, most likely mimicking her perception of her own home and how it felt a maze with no way out, no way to escape him. And that’s heartbreaking.

[@GabrielOliveira-si8bv]

People are now spreading fake news about the lore of silent Hill 2, James is not a sexually frustrated person, these are not the game's symbolisms, Masahiro Ito has already denied this about 300 times, one of the game's biggest producers 

[@akechi1068]

@@GabrielOliveira-si8bv I think you replied to the wrong comment lol.

[@davidmortimer9764]

@@akechi1068 He's spamming every single thread with the same comment, just spam-report him. Dude isn't even right, lol.

[@F1N4L4CT]

not to mention how one of the hiding places was this little closet i think

[@Blackchain119]

"Is that a bunch of save points? Hah!" *Walks right past them into the penultimate fight.*

[@boomkruncher325zzshred5]

And like a Gigachad, beats it ;3

[@DuchessofEarlGrey]

@@boomkruncher325zzshred5 His battle technique puts me on edge! I kept thinking "DODGE" when I thought he should and would get frustrated when he didn't. I mean, bro. Hasn't the Dark Souls series taught you that it's better to avoid damage than it is to get in that extra hit?

[@Banshee_Null]

Thats what I was saying lmao, it was so obvious too

[@nomoregoodpeopleleft]

@@DuchessofEarlGrey Not if you have a billion healing items

[@rieJW]

Mary’s line “if that’s true, then why do you look so sad” is such a beautiful line. It shows that despite James’ admission of hating her, it was proof that he also still loved her very much. James may have been a flawed man but he wasn’t without love. Such an honest and sincere game.

[@EveTheRaviolo]

"may have been a flawed man" he was straight up a murderer lmao he was definitely flawed for sure, but sure he did love her at some point

[@nomoregoodpeopleleft]

@@EveTheRaviolo as Mary's disease progressed she got more and more emotionally unstable and James was the one who bore the brunt of it. Her illness changed her, through it wan't her fault . Yet James still tried to do right by her, because he knew it wasn't her fault. Could you imagine being berated and verbally abused by the person you love? You can tell yourself that they're just sick, it's not their fault, but that doesn't stop the words from hurting. Nobody is really at fault here. This is just what it's like when life deals you a bad hand. James and Mary had their future vanish before their eyes and their circumstances dragged them both down. It's why it's stupid when people crap on James for "being a murderer who hates his wife". What he did came from a place of both love and hatred - he hated that he had to spend so much time trapped in an ongoing limbo waiting for his wife to pass away. That hatred wouldn't exist if he didn't absolutely love her. There are times you just want you loved one to die just so their suffering can end and so yours that yours can too, cause it's easier to grieve someone in death then to grieve them when alive and dying.You're really missing key parts of the dialogue. When Mary asks him to kill her, he says he did it because he hated her and wants his life back, but she asks him "If that's true, then why do you look so sad?" which implies the life he wants back is the one with her, but he hates her for wanting HIM to kill her, knowing he will knowing her suffering and the doctors wont. The only reason anyone would point at James and say "he's the bad guy and he deserves all of this" is because they really misunderstood the story

[@apollyonnoctis1291]

You’re mostly right. But he didn’t hate Mary, he hated what she’d become due to the disease. Yes, what he did was not his choice to make, nor was it necessarily a right choice or one that was entirely selfless in motive. But his guilt is proof enough that he truly loved Mary. His guilt is proof that he made this choice because loved her and couldn’t bear to see her like this, not just because he wanted his life back.

[@mynameisharry8739]

Angela's story is f***ing tragic. Even before the reveal of her past, you can tell how anxious and scared she is around James. It's pretty apparent she has a deep rooted fear, distrust and hatred for men

[@samf.s.7731]

Yeah both her dad and her brother were terrible, and her mom just... Let them.

[@megapeebs2631]

Also if you notice you can see how chewed up her fingers are due to truamas

[@saladninja69]

Dad and brother is an utter devil, and her mom just let them be....why does it sound familiar...

[@rockerojerez349]

One question, why Angela hate men ?? What happened to angela?? I mean the past

[@aphelion4616]

@@rockerojerez349 Her father and brother were sexually assaulting her and abusing her. Her mother let them. Most likely due to her own trauma and just being relieved her husband wasn't doing it to her now. It's extremely sickening and tragic.

[@annoyingghost]

3:03:38 SO sad you missed the last save point :( I thought it was cool because it's the first time in the remake where James is not looking at the camera, side-eyeing, like he can't look at himself now that he remembers the truth.

[@cloudbasedbear]

:( oh no

[@fire.walk.with.me.430]

that's tuff

[@watchfulsquad0109]

but that's the joke

[@hoshea6311]

@@watchfulsquad0109 Now that you mention it, that is kinda funny

[@billosmal9873]

Hes actaully looking at the all the other save points

[@rumimiko707]

“I guess this is the first person we killed, huh James..” Oh boy…

[@N0rmalDude]

I think what he meant was that since James blocked out the memory of him killing Mary, this is the first person he thinks he's killed.

[@karinav555]

@@N0rmalDudeI think OP found that ironic given that in the original SH2 that’s exactly what James says after killing Eddie

[@jamesgarfield8243]

why didn't he pick up an achievement for that? its weird some of his reactions to this game, he's definently played it before and reinacting the walkthrough

[@ShadowedDemonSpawn]

The first boss u fought here in this video, its called Abstract Daddy and its not a portrait. Its a bed frame. And its a bigger figure over a smaller squirming one. Angela's dad didnt just get drunk. He assulted her many times.

[@orion.2072]

her brother did too and to add insult to injury, her mom didn't care and told her she deserved it and left the family at some point

[@popinjayishuman]

Tbf, it does look way more like a door or a portrait than two people on a bed. I’m not arguing the intended symbolism, it’s definitely meant to be that but I always thought the design failed to convey the meaning. I think that’s backed up by how many people don’t realize just how awful Angela’s trauma is.

[@zeroskaterz92]

@@popinjayishuman What kind of door that has a piece of cloth/skin covered it up? There's literally two obvious heads as well.

[@aphelion4616]

@@popinjayishuman I'm not sure how you see anything OTHER than two figures having sex on the top part of that. I immediately saw it and it made me wince with a hint of nausea. Then, the scene after immediately tells you exactly what was going on. Trust and believe people know exactly why Angela has a horrific story. It would also make no sense for her monster to be some random body attached to a door. More people relate to the stories portrayed in this game than I think you realize.

[@blizzardt1964]

@@popinjayishuman i mean even without the pretty obvious (imo) design of abstract daddy. Angela pretty much spells it out with "you're only after one thing. you could just force me like he always did"

[@bergthe89th12]

Jack will now go to Silent Hill so he can overcome his repressed guilt of his broken toe.

[@dagrazytcom5492]

Repressed Guilt? He didn't force anybody to break his toe. It just happens. Why would he be guilty? Silent Hill isn't going to get you over a broken toe. It'll get you though oflver the forceful breaking of the toe then blaming others for it even if it was an accident. Hounding on others when no one is at fault is CRAZY thing to do but some people do it(not saying Jack HAS done that, that we know of).

[@turtlesmoothie4007]

@@dagrazytcom5492 i think it was meant to be a joke, hope this helps

[@N0NP3RS0N]

and all the monsters will be broken toes XDDD

[@ravyn1370]

​@@dagrazytcom5492 Dude..... Just a joke 😂😅

[@gojirabh9383]

​@@dagrazytcom5492My dude, this was supposed to be a joke. It's not that serious 😂

[@moxxiyt]

People in the comments never dissapoint me, thank y'all for explaining the symbolism and what every detail means. Jack is awesome to watch but with all the lore people have been telling, watching this was such a pleasure!

[@danialyousaf6456]

I just remembered something about the lying figures and the four legged ones, they arent just a representation of James's sexual frustration, they're also a reminder of Mary's writhing legs as she was suffocated.

[@jwalster9412]

Damn. That's dark.

[@danialyousaf6456]

@@jwalster9412 yeah but it makes sense. It's sexual frustration and a reminder of what he did to her.

[@peaks781]

also the lying figures spit represents the cruel words mary would say to james in her final days. fucked up.

[@danialyousaf6456]

@@peaks781 yeah. The body bag part could also represent how he rolled her up in a blanket and put her in the back seat of his car.

[@Ichigo2k9]

I don't understand the sexual frustration part. There's no mention that he was sex starved of any sort. The lega could be Mary of course with the top of her body/face covered to hide the guilt he felt but where does the swxual frustration part come from?

[@allthenights1917]

*SPOILERS ALERT* Skipped to the end of the video to hear your thoughts (as I have already completed the game myself) and here are a few things worth mentioning: 1. Laura and Mary were in the same hospital, but it is likely not a Brookhaven Hospital. It's probably St. Jerome's Hospital located in Ashfield, as Mary often refers to nurse as Rachel and we know from SH4 that Rachel worked in that hospital, not the Brookhaven. Also, Brookhaven hospital is a mental institution and Mary was diagnosed with a skin disease (maybe cancer but not 100%) so it would explain why she would not be in Brookhaven. 2. Laura is very much alive, not dead and definitely not a ghost. She however, does not perceive Silent Hill as James or Angela or Eddie do. For her, SH is most likely looking like a child's playground or something a child would find nice to be in. That's why she locks James in that room with a boss fight, because for her there is no such monster, for her it's just some nice looking room. You got the "Leave" ending where James and Laura probably bury Mary in SH cemetery and afterwards leave that place and James maybe ends up adopting Laura (as she is an orphan) and Mary mentions that if things were different, she would adopt her. 3. Silent Hill consists of 3 parts: The real world (people live normally, all is good), The fog world (covered in fog with monsters walking around), The other world (which is the worst one and basically looks like a nightmare). 4. Silent Hill's backstory is filled with mass murders, "demonic" worship etc. and so the town attracts occultists and lunatics in general. 5. James killed Mary days prior to coming to Silent Hill and her body can be found in the backseat of his car covered with blankets and in one of the endings, you notice he is looking back at the body. For him she died 3 years ago because for him she "died" the moment she got sick. 6. As you said, the remake does not get any better. What an amazing experience it was to play it.

[@popsickle6207]

How did Laura got into Silent Hill I thought she is sick, no?

[@allthenights1917]

@@popsickle6207 Yeah this usually causes confusion but here's a short breakdown. Laura is an orphan (it is unclear how her parents died) and she was staying at St. Jerome's hospital (for unknown reasons, it's never mentioned what she suffered from), where she met and befriended Mary. It is also uknown how she got to the Silent Hill but it's possible that she ran away from the hospital or even orphanage, met Eddie somewhere along the way and they both wound up in Silent Hill. This would explain why she is friendly towards him and they can be seen talking and joking with each other throughout the game (in OG and in the remake).

[@popsickle6207]

@@allthenights1917 So basically it's all just speculation?

[@allthenights1917]

@@popsickle6207 Almost everything is a speculation about Silent Hill. The game makers wanted to leave a lot of things for players to interpret and figure out on their own, without disclosing the "real" information. So yeah, you could say that it is a speculation as it was never confirmed by the game designers but it is a logical conclusion based off of the limited information that we have. Mary loved SH and told Laura great things about it, showed photos etc. so that's why she most likely travelled there. And the part of them not being in Brookhaven but in St. Jerome's is like 99.9% true.

[@popsickle6207]

@@allthenights1917 What I can't wrap my head around is, let say Laura is in REAL SH, the good SH because well, the town didn't call her right? She came because of the letter from Mary that mention the place... Then how come she could run around the town without supervisor? How did she get there (8 years old btw)? If her only hope to find Mary is through James, why did she sabotage him? Is all of this a plot hole?

[@soapssie]

Those who have gone through similar to what Angela has gone through, please know it's NEVER EVER deserved. No matter the circumstances. It isn't your fault for wanting love, it isn't your fault for being naive, or what you wore, or said, or even lack of words that could've been said. It isn't your fault for trusting somebody. No one should push themselves onto you, it's not okay, it's never okay. But YOU'RE going to be okay. I know it feels like all you wanna do is take off your skin, or sometimes you feel like you "miss it". But you're worth something, something far more than the sun, and no amount of scum can take away the beauty of who you are. Please take care of yourself, and know it's never, ever will be or has been your fault, never.

[@moonfoxx814]

THIS

[@luluisbetter]

⁠​⁠@@SotiCotobaiting up votes??😭 this is NOT reddit get out. maybe there’s someone out there who was comforted by this comment. if it isnt for you move on😭 of course no one is gonna be magically fixed by this comment, but its nice to know someone understands you even if you dont know them. how could you just assume someone’s only motive is likes?? what a heinous way to think😭

[@ciaa2452]

@@SotiCotofirst off, this isnt reddit, so maybe get back there and mod some subreddits. secondly, its nice to know someone understands me. its not “virtue signalling” is not a bad thing to comfort people

[@Wolfgang67_nrv]

​@SotiCoto actually someone saying they care and saying it isn't your fault is very comforting. I hope someday you will feel sympathy and compassion.

[@Taliesin_]

1:14:28 Yeah, the Born From a Wish DLC re-contextualized Maria in a tragic and horrifying way. She's not just a figment of James' imagination, she's a full-blown person with her own perspective, experiences, and inner thoughts. Created by the town as nothing more than a tool to punish James, she gets killed over and over just to torment him. He's the only living person she's ever met or could ever meet, the person she was created for, and she can't convince him to stay with her. And even in the ending where James tries to leave with her, the town gives her Mary's illness to continue the cycle of suffering. She was doomed, utterly doomed from the start.

[@donjezza10]

That just adds to the sense that the game has about its other characters, in that sometimes you're just not able to do anything to help. Characters like Eddie and Angela were already beyond helping by the time we find them, so them dying was probably the best thing for them considering how irreparable the damage to them was shown to be. Maria in a way could be a representation of that helplessness James has towards others, and she was made to mimic the same thought process Angela and Eddie both have towards their situations.

[@yayothejowen2541]

Thats actually so messed up

[@katstakashi3459]

I would like to believe she is just a fragment of James imagination for my sanity ty

[@cauemoraes2496]

I hope the remake gets this DLC too, like RE4 Remake with Separate Ways.

[@ExaltedUriel]

There's also another theory I've heard, I'm not sure if anything specifically proves or disproves it; that she was actually a real person, probably a stripper at Heaven's Night, and the town just TURNED her INTO Maria to fuck with James, which is equally if not more horrifying.

[@mrbuddy6006]

3:32:10 - Mary passed away a few days ago, and her body can still be seen in the backseat of the car at the beginning. The thing about three years ago is for James,Mary died for him the moment she was diagnosed with the disease.

[@stevenb3854]

Her body definitely cannot be seen in the backseat of the car. That's only a theory that hasn't been confirmed (or denied) by the people involved with SH2. It's a great theory nonetheless and what I personally think happened. A LOT of misinformation here in the comments. (1) Ito NEVER confirmed Mary's body is in the car. He said he only thinks her body was there but can't remember. (2) Ito was not involved in writing the story of SH2. (3) It is purposefully ambiguous throughout the game and different endings allow for different interpretations. (4) Mary's body only seems to be in the car in the remake, not the OG. The Remake has a few strange design choices, like removing important lines from the final letter that Mary reads during the ending. So take stuff like that with a pinch of salt.

[@flowersforkurdt]

Bro its deadass in the car’s backseat.People have already used freecam mods to confirm

[@dracodawa6870]

​@@stevenb3854it's in there, people have already noclipped this game, just search it on KZbin. The Ending, in water (remake) and stillness endings also confirms it.

[@stevenb3854]

@@flowersforkurdt That's true for the Remake but not in the OG. It's purposefully ambiguous

[@birdisipanda]

Plus they confirmed it with the Stillness ending ​too @@flowersforkurdt

[@zachialadams9279]

18:04 I don't think Angela fully tackled her problems there. Her biggest issue was her guilt over killing her father, even though he very much deserved it. James still had her knife when he encountered Abstract Daddy, which is the core of her trauma. To 'resolve' her trauma, she'd have to be the one to use the knife to kill it, herself. Silent Hill is an amoral force, just reflecting things. It does have an awareness, though. And a sense of irony, even if that irony is deeply, DEEPLY cynical. The way it affects James is pretty clear, too. He's lying to himself. All his enemies are abstract edges of his guilt and repressed desire, but they all lack faces. They aren't 'true' because he refuses to admit to himself what he's guilty over. He abandoned Mary. He wanted intimacy but couldn't bear to tell her he didn't have desire for her anymore.

[@emilyjayne52]

The staring into the camera never gets old, I've never been so excited to see a save point during a lets play

[@Wayazaexa42]

Made me disappointed that he skipped so many. Every time I saw one I was like "Yes! Here we go again!" And then he'd just go past so many of them. I guess he just didn't think up some stupid monologue for them, but I would have loved as much as possible!

[@ode_styrbjorn]

As someone with a terminal illness, this game tears me up inside because I've thought and felt so many of these things in the last few years. Thank you for playing this, Jack. I needed a good cry. It's too easy to be so numb it's like not existing anymore, but I'm still kicking. Much love and appreciation for the years of entertainment. You made me feel less lonely all the time. You're an angel, Sean. A little Irish angel. Lol. ❤🌺

[@zilentecho3954]

Bro come on dont hit us like this

[@ode_styrbjorn]

@@zilentecho3954 just being real, my dude.

[@TarindrellaVidar]

Stay strong ❤

[@ode_styrbjorn]

@@TarindrellaVidar thank you. 💖

[@superhawk8921]

Damn that sucks to hear. Wasn't expecting even more feels after finishing this video. Wish you all the best.

[@VultureClique]

I'm currently a recovering rape victim and angela's story hit me just really hard. She reminds me of myself in my worst moments. The "it's always like this for me" line hurts. They wrote her very well in this remake. I appreciate James telling her she didn't deserve it.

[@noddaduck2605]

Every time you’re like “it’s so gross here”, isn’t that probably part of what James felt when visiting Mary? Even reaching into the holes and using random syringes is sort of like that, it is something you need to do to progress, if you don’t do it the other options are unacceptable. I wonder if it was cold when Eddie killed that dog. With Angela her life was dangerous and falling apart, Eddie wanted to be numb and callous to what he had done. James’s whole deal was disgust and fear of contamination, all the bugs and grime make a lot of sense.

[@JUNK_ZONE]

"Feels heavier than it looks" might be one of the most refined descriptions of an item I've read in a game.

[@Banshee_Null]

honestly fr

[@samueltalaugon6149]

Just imagining being killed by the love of your life in such a way must've been terrifying for Mary. Being in pain for 3 years and then dying in such a painful way as well I could only imagine what her final thoughts were.

[@nomoregoodpeopleleft]

She literally asked him to do this knowing that the doctors won't

[@thothhere]

@@nomoregoodpeopleleftI believe it’s interpreted differently in the og, as well as the remake about whether she wanted it or not. Like she asked him to do it but didn’t want to die and fought at the end. Or monsters like the flesh lip being interpreted as Mary hurling abuse at James in her final days and him snapping from the weight of it all. I think it’s so fun to see all the different ideas behind what could’ve happened

[@lainzero4549]

So Laura is a real person, she doesn't see any monsters and doesn't see maria in the town due to her innocence, she misunderstood mary's letter about being in a better place. Laura thought it meant Silent Hill so she went there

[@guyknightley3499]

They're all real other than Maria.

[@nomuom2086]

I think she sees something, just not monsters, probably people. She can very clearly tell that the place isn't correct, and each person that goes there see something different. James sees monsters that personify his fear and his anger and his lust, Angelia sees her father, her brother. Eddie sees something idk anything about him. But each person sees something different, but in the same places.

[@yayothejowen2541]

​@@guyknightley3499a little bit of a spoiler for the dlc but Maria is in fact technically a real person. The town manifested her to keep dying and torture James but she has a mind of her own. Thats why she desperately wants James to stay with her. I saw in one of the comments that theres an ending in the old game where u can leave with her but the town ended up giving her the same disease Mary succumbed to so she was doomed to begin with.

[@aslan.mp3]

@@yayothejowen2541yes that’s right. the new game has that ending too, it’s called “maria” and james does leave with her but right as they get to his car she starts coughing. the last thing james says is that she should “do something about that cough.” she will have the same fate as mary thus resulting in the same loop for james. that ending is pretty much considered a bad one

[@yayothejowen2541]

@@aslan.mp3 man, really sucks for everyone involved

[@ks_ig2728]

Laura turning 8 years old recently despite Mary dying 3 years ago was when James realized and remembered that he killed Mary only just a few days ago. Him leaving with Laura follows Mary's wish for James to "go on for yourself and for others"; meaning he decides to possibly adopt Laura as that's what Mary would have wanted.

[@MAN1CXD]

he didn't remember he killed her he only remembers after watching the tape

[@SacredLover21]

@@MAN1CXD yeah, its called repression, that memory is buried in the unconcious mind and the only thing that triggered it was that tape that directly showed James killing Mary

[@MAN1CXD]

@@SacredLover21 ok? ik

[@Stigmatix666]

More like he killed her right before he took a pit stop at the rest room near Silent Hill.

[@user-pn5kr8pf7l]

​@@MAN1CXDbruh you didnt need to respond so rudely. they just wanted to give you some info

[@arturoortiz7341]

loved it, aside from ads every 6 and 10mins intervals. What a trip down memory lane

[@eliseblair5228]

KZbin ads have been unbearable recently

[@DragonGunzDorian]

They have been awful.

[@BlueSlushee]

Originally came here to make a funny comment about the ads, but then an ad interrupted my comment and I lost my train of thought smh

[@frog5799]

Love that chicken from Popeyes!

[@moonfoxx814]

Ya'll want ad blocker reccomendations? (I use adblock plus)

[@jeiseu]

1:27:27 “People aren’t allowed to be average anymore” Sean’s so real for this

[@SotiCoto]

Aye, well it is people not allowing each other to be average any more. The judgement isn't coming from some abstract external source. It is just people doing this to each other.

[@cirmented]

as someone who experienced something similar to angela, that whole sequence defiantly strikes a cord with me, it’s accurate asf about how it feels, even the boss fight feels like a panic attack. the scene actually makes me feel super seen, when others never believed me. I always appreciate when games portray these kinds of subject matters in a respectful and careful way. Sh2 almost holds you hand and tells you it’s okay, even if it’s a horror game and made to disturb people. there’s a saying i feel fits, “art is meant to disturb the comforted and comfort the disturbed.” such a well executed sequence, it doesn’t make me feel upset at all even if it’s highly disturbing, it just makes me feel like someone believes me. I will always value art that gives a safe place for those it’s relating to.

[@kittyfittsy]

What an amazing take - thank you for sharing

[@kayb.1743]

Wonderfully said, echoing the comment above thank you for sharing

[@rollergalaxy9997]

honestly pretty beautiful, wonderful writing and amazing use of a quote. 10/10, would read comment again

[@therealvoltage]

I'm so sorry for what happened to you in the past, thank you for sharing and I hope all is well

[@DuoMonkey]

Thank you for sharing that. I went through stuff as well and it really does feel as you said. Like you said it really does help to show others just a glimpse of what it’s like

[@mrmc101]

some people just solved it, the pictures are a cypher that spells out "You've been here for two decades" which I think is their way of confirming the loop theory

[@camilaisalawliet]

DAMN. IF THAT'S TRUE THAT'S SO MANY LORE IMPLICATIONS

[@rebblepebble1857]

Well it could also just be a nod to how the original came out in 2001, a little over 2 decades before the remake.

[@averythesuperhero]

Yeah I personally don't like the loop theory as much, and I think the photos easter egg, similar to the "Echoes of the Past" locations are just meant to be nods to fans towards the original game, and how many have played that game over and over since it came out, constantly engaging with it. It's not necessarily James that's in a loop, but the player certainly is. That's just my take on it tho, cuz I don't want there to be a singular interpretation of the game to be locked in or confirmed, I think it works better--much like Silent Hill itself--if it's just an experience that's intepreted differently by each person that plays it ^^

[@mrmc101]

@@rebblepebble1857 thats my bad, the devs acknowledged it was solved but they've been a little tight lipped on confirming thats the meaning for certain, personally I like it.

[@mrmc101]

@@averythesuperhero personally I like the loop theory because a) i feel like it offers a convienent in universe explanation for the remake and the various endings and b) i really like the idea of james' punishment not only being his journey through silent hill but never being able to change this outcome no matter how hard he tries. i think it makes it so he has no other choice but to sit with what he did for the rest of his life, which is fitting. but i see where you're coming from for sure, and i do think it can potentially introduce some problems. it kind of adds an air of "people can never change" to the tone and i dont know if i personally jive with that as much.

[@mabman3235]

While you're correct about sexual frustration manifesting in the nurses, I think the main symbolism of them is James began to resent the doctors and nurses who could nothing for his wife and began to see them them as empty-headed bubbly ditzes, manifesting the "bubble-headed nurses"

[@lightfractals]

I'm hearing this take your the first time and it makes so much sense!!

[@thachocolategod]

I love how this game is basically "men would rather fight demons conjured from their own guilt than go to therapy."

[@ExaltedUriel]

Hey, the monsters don't bill me at the end of it, lol

[@Asand8s]

Why go to therapy? One day in Silent Hill and James identified, accepted and conquered way more emotional traumas than months of talking to someone.

[@Demomanflower]

>live a nightmare for one day >you accept everything you did Or >live a calm painful talk with someone for mounths >get more pain from the bill >some people just want to end it so it isnt even effective most of the time

[@hobograndma8282]

@@Asand8s you aren't wrong

[@WaspGenocide]

I'm so tired of this idiotic meme.

[@XxBadDragonxX]

"If that's true... then why do you look so sad?" I dont know why, but that line broke me. Its like another way of saying, 'It's alright'.

[@SILENTVIXXSIN]

The voice acting too 😭 they did a fantastic job!

[@saladninja69]

The way James looked at his hand after he killed Eddie is the same way he looked at his hand in the beginning. So there is a hint that James just killed Mary. And there is some freecam video that show Mary body is in the backseat of the car, covered by a blanket, so there is that.

[@Stigmatix666]

It's not like they're trying too hard to hide it, neither did the original.

[@timothymenard1750]

3:09:30 It's believed that Pyramid Head represents several things, one of which being James' guilt over having killed people, the 2nd Pyramid Head only appears after you kill Eddie, and it seems that the eggs they have are representative of the 2 lives James has taken, the Rust-Colored Egg for Mary (due to it being an older murder than Eddies and/or because the rust is meant to parallel her illness) and the Scarlett Egg for Eddie (because it's a more recent murder and/or it's representative of how Eddie died violently hence it being blood red).

[@RynKimVay]

He's meant to remind James he's human and to make him remember what he's done. The inspiration for Pyramid Head's role in the story comes from a bit of dialogue in Jacob's Ladder (fantastic film, by the way), and I think it just adds more weight to what you've just said: The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of life, your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you. They're freeing your soul. If you're frightened of dying and... and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth. It's just a matter of how you look at it, that's all.

[@w3bcor3]

@@RynKimVay jacob's ladder is SO amazing. & when you watch it, you can see just how much of an inspiration it was to the production team. also, it's genuinely such a terrifying movie. super creepy.

[@hellkisser]

​​@@RynKimVaynow thats make sense

[@RynKimVay]

@@w3bcor3 Indeed! I also love that there's a Jacob's Lager beer tap as an Easter Egg. I think everyone should watch Jacob's Ladder. I was lucky enough my psych professor, a combat vet and a film buff, always had it as required viewing, and then we broke it down. I love it even more for that experience, honestly.

[@haeaisms7332]

I think the pyramid on his head really adds some more basis to him representing guilt as well because it resembles catholic penitents

[@timothytapia8636]

My sincere condolences to your toe Sean I’m here with you brother as you go through this tragic tragic event and the fact that you still power through and produce content for us mere mortals is a testament to you godly will and strength😂

[@anarchyahoy1363]

"There was a framerate here, it's gone now" I'M LOSING IT, fr I usually disregard bad reviews that are just performance issues but yikes, y'all gotta get on the patches with that!! That's really bad.

[@willw6504]

He kept making various "there was X; it's gone now" jokes. I laughed in pleased surprise each time. Good bit.

[@Iord]

seems to be a memory leak issue

[@muhammedmeeran9775]

ngl i haven’t seen any one else experience what he did including me, he keeps making separate save files ever single save which might effect it

[@zadinal]

​@@muhammedmeeran9775 while that may be an underlying issue it is wholly unacceptable, surely something that would have come up in QA.

[@anarchyahoy1363]

@@muhammedmeeran9775 That's good! I know a lot of steam reviews were saying they had performance issues too. Still tho seeing it as the only complaint is so nice. I'm glad Bloober cooked with this remake

[@ValkyrieCain123]

To answer your question regarding Angela (I haven't finished the video, so not sure if you figure it out or not) (SPOILERS FOR VIEWERS) In the OG game at least, Angela doesn't make it out of Silent Hill. It's implied she commits suicide. The developers had an interview years ago where they mention that was their perspective of how her story concludes, so yeah she meets a very tragic end :(

[@blizzardt1964]

yeah i always thought each ending was related to a character. Maria is eddies descent into delusion. In water is angelas heartbraking faliure to save herself. James was the only one with an open grave so he escapes and leaves.

[@hellkisser]

It is so clear everyone has a tragic ending in the end, including James ***SPOILER**** Thats why, In the water ending is consider as the "canon" ending by a lot of people including the James VA, and SH2 Director

[@UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q]

So does james on the sad ending where he throws the car on the lake

[@Exiled_Theseus]

It’s somewhat implied in the remake too, since the last time we see her she’s walking into the flames after asking for the knife

[@Exiled_Theseus]

*in the hotel

[@moemoes5586]

At 1:14:00 Jack is talking about Maria in a way that I feel the Silent Hill franchise forces people to think about its characters. There are similar moments with Eddie, Angela, and Laura that force people to think critically about them. Literally helping people understand the emotional state of the characters better strengthening the player's empathy. This is probably one of the biggest strengths of the Silent Hill franchise a strength that you usually find in books. For me the character that did this the most was Heather Manson from the third game. Silent Hill 2 and 3 are more art than game and we are very lucky to have them. I hope they remake 3 too. Thank you for playing the remake Jack!

[@jethrojacinto2798]

When I first really learned and discovered Angela's story during the OG run I was completely angry and heartbroken for her. And the fact that the "Daddy Boss" is well him on Angela under the covers. Ugh just typing that made me physically ill.

[@popsickle6207]

Could be her or his brother, cause his brother also SA'ed her sadly.

[@mariscostumes3815]

​@popsickle6207 it's called Daddy boss specifically. Not brother boss

[@synysterbullett4166]

​@@mariscostumes3815 He is saying that the boss is possibly, and most likely implied, to be her dad but also her brother under the covers

[@laurenyork7940]

It’s interesting that the letter you get at the end, starts the same as the letter you get at the start implying that they’re the same letter and that James had the full letter at the start too, but by the end we hear the full version as a way of James accepting that he had killed his wife and reminding himself that she was ready to die… hearing the full letter at the end made me cry, I’ve never known the story of this game and I really enjoyed watching it for the first time although I had always heard about the theory that Mary was in the back seat of the car at the start. After watching the full game now that theory has a lot more meaning behind it

[@R0SEE_xo]

The letter you have in the beginning of the game is most likely a manifestation by the town to bring James there, in the og the writing disappears as the game progresses and then the paper is gone from your inventory after the Eddie fight

[@WhirlingMusic]

Yeah when I reached the hotel, I went to my inventory and opened the letter to see if the writing was still there. The writing was gone. Just like the original game.

[@Stigmatix666]

Of course he had the full letter, he just blocked out half of it

[@coconutnyok]

3:07:55 "God, guys would literally do anything but go to therapy huh?" best line

[@PurpleNiobe]

I swear this game has reignited that wierd obsession I had years ago. I spent Friday at work listening to the soundtrack while drinking out of my "There was a HOLE here. It's gone now" mug.😄

[@geekgimli]

same!

[@Sh1ft3r467]

"Where is your girlfriend?" She's at work. "Where does she work?" In the Hole. BWAAAAAAH

[@Love2Banime]

Still have the mug?

[@PurpleNiobe]

@Love2Banime I do! I should clarify: I was obsessing over this game at work drinking out of my Silent Hill mug on Friday because I was obsessing about the game like I did years ago. I haven't had the mug for over 20 years. Only maybe 4. I'm the dork who drinks out of it just to see if people asks me where that's from!

[@jwalster9412]

There is a comment here, it's not gone yet.

[@timothymenard1750]

3:32:05 It's a little confusing but Laura IS alive, the whole thing with James thinking Mary died 3 years ago was a fabrication of his mind after he repressed the memories of killing her (it's theorized that Mary's diagnosis was 3 years ago, hence why James considered that the time she died in the fabrication), James actually killed Mary very recently. It's unknown what illness Laura had/has, but Mary seemed to believe Laura would go on to live a long happy life so it must not have been anything serious.

[@aplix747]

Silent hill is about moving past trauma. The phrase "Life goes on" summarises this. Both Eddie and Angela allow their trauma to destroy them. Eddie lets himself become the fat, disgusting monster he believes everyone thinks he is, because he truly thinks he has no other option but to be the villain. Angela throws her life away the moment she realises she'll never have her revenge or peace and kill her mother. She's convinced she'll never fully recover. James is the only person not consumed by the idea of "Revenge", and we see this when he repeatedly pushes Maria away, knowing that it's not right to try and fix things and let the town win. The town seems to finally lose Almost every monster in the town is a distorted version of Mary. It starts off abstract. As a puking body or some pairs of legs, but gradually the monsters start to resemble her more and more as James allows himself to think about her and the truth becomes clearer. The fog is literally James disassociating from his actions. Pyramid head is the only exception. It actually seems to be actively killing and destroying the monsters, like an emotionless executioner tasked with a horrible job of slaughtering his wife. This is how James saw himself when he killed her. Pyramid head represents who james really is and the truth keeps hunting him down.

[@Stigmatix666]

Pyramid Head in fact leads James towards the truth

[@duskzehedgie3840]

Definitely don't empathize with Eddie.. a lot of people are bullied and harassed, but no sane one of them would enjoy killing a dog and watching it try to claw out it's own insides from it's suffering. That's sharply teetering into psychopathic.

[@yodawgzgaming4416]

Right? Bullying sucks but it is really quite typical. If all he got was insults about his weight, he's one of the lucky ones. And descending to crimes like he did is easily the worse evil

[@Voc_spooksauce]

The whole thing with Eddie is that while you understand people treated him pretty badly, but he was already a person who was incredibly mentally unhealthy. Much like many people in real life who did terrible things, it could've ended with no one getting hurt if he just had professional help...

[@gunderalex]

Thank you!! Animal abusers are worst!

[@arzface]

I don't condone Eddie's actions of hurting animals, but it does make perfect sense why it would bring a sense of power to a person who's been on the receiving end for far too long. When you suddenly are given the means to subject that form of mistreatment or abuse onto another creature or person, it can make the aggressor feel a sense of empowerment, as twisted as it might be. I don't believe it's as simple as Eddie being born a psychopath and been such a way since birth, but his environment certainly helped him become that way. Mental issues are very complicated and trauma could scar any ordinary person into becoming a twisted form of themselves, physically or mentally.

[@moxiemaxie3543]

You're worried about the dog and not your own species. Make sure not to be in danger next to a dog around this guy lol

[@sammisoccer7]

Watching the scene where Angela and James face her dad feels extra heavy because it's a relatable story for some people. That kept popping up in the back of my mind when I was watching her cry. I really hope anyone who has faced that scenario finds the help and peace that they deserve

[@MiSHy1121]

Highly suggest everyone look at the background visuals in the inventory screen. It’s James from the tape in the original killing Mary. The biggest spoiler of the game and you’re seeing it from the very beginning. 😳 Flashes of this version’s tape can also be seen on the theater screen where you run into Eddie.

[@Pmak]

Yeah, when James figures out what he's done. All the monsters get weaker. Even to the point that the Pyramid Heads also lose their powers of invincibility.

[@Stigmatix666]

That's because they're not needed anymore

[@schizomani4c]

James only sees himself when eddie kills “him.” But he is actually eddies bully that he sees. James doesn’t see his bully because its his manifestation.

[@codyd13]

How come he saw Angela’s vision though during the boss fight? Just genuinely curious.

[@schizomani4c]

@@codyd13 James had already learned the truth of his meaning to come into silent hill. the monsters are in pain and wont attack James. Then him seeing other peoples visions.

[@codyd13]

@@schizomani4c I meant the abstract daddy boss. I was under the impression that was the one time both of there worlds collided and he saw her monster. So I didn’t know why he couldn’t see eddies at that point.

[@schizomani4c]

@@codyd13 Angela just sees her father as she normally would. Like james with Maria. When in silent hill you see everything just in a different way. It is all fake when you are in silent hill however. So Maria might be something else to angela and Abstract daddy looks completely different to James

[@schizomani4c]

@@codyd13 you can go back to eddie as well. We dont see his bully we see James’s corpse.

[@naan000]

_personal highlights_ 8:40 angela's hiding spot :(( 15:56 the acting is amazing in this scene 20:00 maria's alive what 47:20 vogue walk, who is this diva 💜 1:11:34 maria's dead again 1:18:46 the hell happened to eddie 1:27:19 "you're not allowed to be average anymore" 1:35:18 mary's letter 2:13:17 another boss fight? 2:42:00 the tape 2:58:10 angela!! 3:04:04 HOW IS MARIA ALIVE I DONT UNDERSTAND 3:10:10 mary's last words 3:13:05 mary's here...somehow 3:22:48 I can't believe it took me so long to notice, but the contraption Mary/Maria's in looks like a bacteriophage, which could be a vague symbol of Mary's illness

[@xxCrapNamexx]

3:31:40 The current theory is that in the remake all the endings actually happened, james killed himself shortly after killing mary like in the bad ending (her dead body is in the back of the car, dead for three years was when she was first diagnosed in this version) and is stuck in silent hill as a sort of purgatory, forced to relive the game over and over until he makes peace with himself and move on with laura to heaven/the afterlife.

[@tengosc9914]

The Dog and UFO endings are veryyy canon

[@popsickle6207]

The creator said that the endings is up to everybody interpretation.

[@nosome]

@@tengosc9914 the dog and aliens invaded his purgatory and decided to be silly lol prolly sent him back after they had their fun with him

[@tengosc9914]

@@nosome they teached him Polish xd

[@aoiuemura]

Wishing you a speedy recovery-you’ll be back on your feet in no time! 🖤

[@blitzerni]

For our sins we deserve eternity in hell, but God loves us so much he came as Jesus to pay the price of our sins through living a perfect life for us, his death and his resurrection so we can be forgiven and receive eternal life if we follow and obey him in faith FOR LIFE , Jesus loves u and desires to have a personal relationship with you of love, peace, redemption and obedience ✝️ May Jesus bless you, repent of your sins and turn to Christ before it's too late 🙏🏿❤️

[@SliverbladeXGaming]

Same

[@jamesconlin-90s]

Our boy james should be called the wall rizzler from now on

[@Queen_catty555]

Awesome

[@Bonkistein]

What is this account, AI music artist?

[@aleridream7105]

And I JUUUST finished my crochet blanket by the ending scene! Perfectly long for a big project! Thank you so much for this

[@StarrChild.]

Eddie doesn't see the dead bodies as James. James sees them as himself because in his deepest mind he knows what he has done and he believes he should die for it. Eddie sees, what I assume, is his bully who he probably did kill in the real world. Silent Hill has people see different things. How James sees things is not how the others view it. Eddie always sees things as frozen and cold, Angela always sees the fire, James always sees the rotting. But what I find odd with James is that he could see Angela's monster but neither Eddie or Angela could see his.

[@sungalaxia]

I wonder if it's because he had Angela's knife.

[@DuchessofEarlGrey]

I thought maybe it had something to do with their repeated meetings. Their perspectives just started to bleed into one another. Yes, James had the knife, but he didn't have anything of Eddie's. There weren't any meetings where James' monsters were nearby, where Angela or Eddie might have seen them. But for all we know, James fighting Abstract Daddy and the cold room could have been a plot device, just so we could understand what the others were going through, and what the town was doing. Nothing deeper than that. Maria could see James' monsters, but Laura couldn't, and Laura probably couldn't see Maria, else she might not have run away (if James' mistook her for Mary, why wouldn't Laura? Unless she didn't look like Mary to her). I don't know, so much to unpack in this game.

[@kingdrooooooool]

Masahiro Ito the monster designer had said originally that James only sees Abstract Daddy the way he himself would perceive it and is a projection of his own inner demons that are familiar to the manifestation of Angela's monster, but Angela ultimately herself sees Abstract Daddy differently than James. So we only see Abstract Daddy from James' POV but Angela's POV could be very different and most likely much worse. So ultimately, we only see Abstract Daddy from James' POV not Angela's POV

[@DuchessofEarlGrey]

@@kingdrooooooool That suggests these things have substance, like they are actual physical beings that are simply perceived differently by different people. Why didn't James see Abstract Daddy earlier when he and Angela met in the park? She said something like "you shouldn't be here" and was panicking at something only she could see, and then she ran away.

[@Stigmatix666]

Due to the multiple endings, there's a theory that the reason all these corpses look like himself is that he's gone through this multiple times. Until he gets it right..

[@olli9441]

I receive: More Silent Hill content You receive: Endless sympathy for your broken toe That's a great deal if I ever saw one!

[@dootslayer3565]

man im so glad the ruined hotel theme had the black fairy ambiance from the original, it really does make James' realization hit that much harder, it just feels hollow

[@Crymsyne]

Wanted to say thank you, for your extra beating you gave the Abstract Daddy after the cutscene. There's a lot more of us that can relate to Angela than we'd like to admit, but your extra there after it was over was comforting/satisfying.

[@miraclemaker403]

That was so satisfying, i felt like he was doing it for me coz that's exactly what I wanted to do if I was the one playing the game 😅❤

[@popsickle6207]

Notice this little detail in James and Angela interaction 14:45? When Angela raised her voice to James... James: "Calm down" Angela: "Don't order me around!" James: "I'm [stutters] not. I just... [exhales] It's okay, it's over." This empasizes 2 thing: 1. She's so broken that when James asks her nicely to calm down she mistook it as an order, which reminded her trauma her Dad and her brother ordering/forcing her to do "things" that she didn't want. 2. That stutter and exhale in his sentence after Angela raised her voice to him it shows his frustration and trying to be patient. After being reminded of him verbally abused by Mary in their last years. Man, what a BEAUTIFUL writing.

[@rodrex6316]

wait sry, mary verbally abused james ??? i am not that knowledgeable about silent hills lore and i only watched things when i was younger. i always thought it was the opposite, james abusing her. its even brought up by "ik he seems mean but he is actually pretty sweet" was it a error or did i full on understood the story wrong ?

[@biteofdog]

I took his stutter as being empathetic to Angela's issues. Her demeanor is meek from the get go in her interactions with James, and it's apparent that she went through a lot of trauma and abuse. He stutters around Maria as well, but that is because she looks like his wife.

[@rodrex6316]

@biteofdog hum... i see, i took it has the opposite tho, james seems like someone with some anger issues, he seems way to depressed to let it out but sometimes it slips, throughout the game james starts raising his voice especially when interacting with angela, i think james starts to understand what she went through and realises that the best outcome is to keep calm, i know people with anger issues and stopping and taking a breath is normally a way to calm themselves down. And his wife when writing to laura seems to say stuff like "yeah i know he seems mean but deep down he is a nice person" which seems like Laura has seen james being abusive at least verbally. but this is of course my point of view, the beauty of silent hills is that nothing is spelled out, like a normal and realistic person, stuff happened to that person that we, as spectator, did not see or where there to fully understand

[@cmlyhmbylm4840]

​@rodrex6316 It was shown at the end of the video that, initially after her diagnosis, Mary lashed out at every around her- especially James. We even get to hear her doing so when he's walking down the long hallway near the end.

[@ToastRei]

Thank you so much for this playthrough and all your commentaries Sean. I had a breakup with someone who wanted to stream this remake for me and explore every nooks and crannies together. The ending and her letter resonated a lot with how I felt about the end of our relationship and what I want to say to him. Thank you for giving me a glimpse of the time we couldn't.

[@krusebuse]

The abstract daddy looks even worse in this one when you take into account the implications of his model. Truely horrible.

[@hellkisser]

The og already bad, now we got the 4k upgraded version of this monsters, the design was absolutely disgusting

[@Nocturnewashere]

It's genuinely the only design I dreaded seeing in this game and my fears were proven correct. Makes me feel ill.

[@uxuhxnxe]

1:00:07 pyramid head just standing there as you go down the ladder genuinely scared the piss outta me and you didn't even notice it lmao

[@quinnroscoe]

THANK GOD SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED

[@nolanc9432]

@@quinnroscoethere are literally ZERO other comments talking about it

[@MAN1CXD]

he rlly skipped all the save points at the end and missed james looking away

[@onejediboi]

23:09 she’s humming the melody to promise, the song that played during the credits of one of the endings in the original game

[@feelsboyyyy]

She's humming the melody of Promise

[@onejediboi]

@@feelsboyyyy yeah you right I misheard it as the segment 1:00 - 1:08 of theme of Laura lol but thanks for pointing that out

[@feelsboyyyy]

​@@onejediboi its an interesting detail regardless, i love both songs, it would have been cool if she actually was humming theme of laura instead of promise

[@vicck6337]

She’s humming her own theme song

[@nataliaperez3670]

Man, seeing the ending made me tear up. My older brother had cancer and passed away at 22 while i was 15. He was always handsom and a wonderful person and never complained about the pain. But he did at times ask why i didn't come see him after his surgeries (which i did go to some) as well as him asking me to be around him but leave just how Mary was telling James. She and my brother hated how they looked sick and weak so they craved your warmth but didn't want you to remember them like that. The ending and what she says to him was so accurate to a cancer patient who knows they will die but also finds peace with it at times. Part of me resonates with James to some extent where you wish they could live in peace without pain wither that is in heaven or fully cured. Seeing someone you love be in pain but also not knowing how to help is so frustrating. James walking alone and facing all of silent hill, reflecting his past hits a spot in my heart, but also him ending with walking out of the cementary and taking the girl with him is such a good ending. Its not a "happy ending" but there is no happy ending for someone who lost their person. You just live on remembering them and trying your best to live a rightful life until its your turn.

[@gunderalex]

Didn’t he say he was killing her not because she was suffering but because he was hating her? James is a very bad person.

[@iroquoispliskin4262]

James didn't truly hate her. He did truly love Mary, and couldn't bear to see her in pain like that. A clue as to why this is true, is that Pyramid Head was a way for James to be punished for what he had done. But only because he believed he deserved the punishment. Is James a great, amazing human being? No. Is he truly a bad person, though? No.

[@TKiY_Hastur]

​@@iroquoispliskin4262 If you listen to some of the dialogue, you hear her ask him to, because he's suffering too. She knew the doctors were prolonging her life/suffering for money, and saw how it was also killing james internally. I also resonated a lot with this story, taking care of a dying family member and hospice keeping them alive for more money, and as bad as it sounds I did hate it due to how hard it was and often woke up hoping it was the last day. It's something a lot of people go through when in that situation, not because they hate the person but out of a mix of love for them and anger at a situation they cant fix or control. If it makes me a bad person for feeling that way then so be it, but it's a situation you can't really judge until you experience it yourself. Yes he says he did it because he hated her HOWEVER if you listen to what he says he says he wanted his life back bit she immediately asks why he looks sad if its true. It implies that the life he wants back is the one with her but knows he cant have that, so he did what she asked him to and helped her end it.

[@leothepuppp]

my silent hill would be pretty similar to angela's since we both share the assault thing (not by my dad but still), i remember when i had cptsd i used to dream a lot with drowning in water, so it would also share some of jame's late part in the game love how they tackled angela's trauma, the first time i played the boss fight it game me a panic attack cause they really do showcase how it actually feels, finished the game 3 months later when i was in a better mental space to me it's not just a game, it's an art piece that comforted me till this day

[@circsbby_]

hope you’re doing fine now, you’re really strong for that ❤

[@leothepuppp]

@ thank you 💗 i'm recovered from all that thanks to therapy so i'm all good 🎀✨

[@shadic4566]

1:16:56 Walter Sullivan. The antagonist of Silent Hill 4: The Room. Backstory: his father accidentally got Walter's birth mother pregnant and, not wanting to have a baby, abandoned him in room 302 of South Ashfield Heights before he got sent to St. Jerome Hospital by the superintendent, Jim's father Frank Sunderland, who also kept the umbilical cord as he felt its too precious to throw out. Walter then became a ward of the Wish House orphanage, located in a forest near Silent Hill and forced to be part of the cult. Walter, at age 6, was told his mother was "asleep" and where she was but misinterpreted it and believed Room 302 as his "mother" and visited each week but had problems. When he became an adult while having faced a lot of problems growing up, he believed that doing the "21 Sacraments" would help "awaken" his "mother" so they can be reunited by killing 10 of 21 people, marking them as 01121-10121, before killing himself at age 24 and marking on his feet 11121 and has been killing as a ghost for 10 years, marking his victims 12121-15121 all before the events of Silent Hill 4: The Room.

[@MordredsGirl]

It took me a while to realize this is the guy the whole circumcision debacle was about 😂

[@danieldoesdumbstuff]

I hope they remake 4

[@icetide9411]

I love how they changed the final parts of Eddie's story. Instead of the two worst boss fights, he got a really cool stealthy boss fight. And him talking face-to-face with James during his monologue is a really nice twist on things. Considering James also punches Eddie, it makes the fact that Eddie probably sees the bully he shot instead of James most of the time more apparent. Do kinda miss the "a human being..." line from James, but I can see that that line might come off kinda weird with the drastically different voice acting

[@VotingHarmony]

1:20:27

[@emmacalver2366]

This was my favourite playthrough you've ever done Sean! Thank you for commmitting to the whole game, love the long content videos you're doing. Hope the foot heals soon!

[@dragontuzi5832]

In a sea of heavy comments . . . I really did say "Bless you" when you sneezed, then a few moments later you said thank you. Talk about spot on timing.

[@ZeraAxon]

This also happened to me, and it felt really weird because I did not expect him to reply ofc. lmao

[@thatrandomrobot]

The loop theory is also aided by the fact that we got SH: The Short Message before this. A game that is all about the character looping over and over again in her Silent Hill experience, learning the wrong lessons until she’s able to break the cycle, process her guilt and finally move on

[@samf.s.7731]

It was the aliens that confirmed it really, see they have 2001 James with them. 😅

[@kunikidasbareass]

the captions changing the name from mary to maria was a really nice detail (3:14:27)

[@megapeebs2631]

For Angela if you look at her fingers you can actually notice they're extremely bit up and chewed which is just even more depressing

[@fishblades]

Laura's drawing of Mary on the wall is the cutest thing ever, one of the best additions to the game imo. She even drew the sores from her disease 😢

[@phhantasm]

Thank you, Jack! I never got to play any of these games growing up (single mother, couldnt afford much at all), but this was incredible. I appreciate you not spoiling it either, as even as media ages I dont think its fair to assume everybody knows the stories and then deprive them of these experiences of finding out (although unfortunately somebody on instagram posted a harmless picture of them playing the game the other day and the text said about murdering his wife so :))))) ) But thank you again!! This playthrough has me looking up anyway I can try and play some of the other games, as the story telling is just insane. ❤❤

[@jenakayjlh7429]

I appreciate him not spoiling it, too!

[@mynameisharry8739]

The most disturbing thing about the abstract daddy, is the fact that it's a bed with a person laying ontop of another person while covered in bedsheets... Edit: What's even more tragic and disgusting in the original, is that the walls of the room Angela was in, were covered in holes with pistons moving in and out of them. I've heard a theory that the amount of holes was the amount of times...

[@ChessNo1r]

The most disgusting thing is the fact that what James sees (and us by extension) is a "tame" version of what Angela sees.

[@yuii2493]

That piston thing is still around in the remake boss fight, it's just the bossfight room is bigger and full of hallways instead of just 1 room. You can see this if you pay attention to the steel pipes and the sound when the room changed.

[@MarquessInk]

God, they managed to make Abstract Daddy EVEN WORSE in the remake... I am so uncomfortable with it. Good job, developers. EDIT: the looping hallways it's much worse than just a room with the pistons, because gives that desperation of running and running but never being capable of truly escape. Her nook between the walls makes it even sadder. Also, it's even worse that James instantly turns things around and makes it about him. She is having a breakdown and all he cares about is that she is defensive towards him. Instead of sympathizing with her, all he wanted was to clarify that HE isn't like her father. Shows how his mind works regarding his selfishness. Angela gets that immediately when he says "my Mary".

[@faryndoodle]

Her dad and her brother sexually assaulted her repeatedly. It's really disgusting.

[@samf.s.7731]

That theory is really good NGL. But it's ruined because now I'm seeing people saying that James is "so fine", he can be their "abstract daddy" 😅 It happened, it's too late n

[@Pengun3]

Already? Felt like this playthrough just started, but almost 4 hours? We're eating good.

[@blitzerni]

For our sins we deserve eternity in hell, but God loves us so much he came as Jesus to pay the price of our sins through living a perfect life for us, his death and his resurrection so we can be forgiven and receive eternal life if we follow and obey him in faith FOR LIFE , Jesus loves u and desires to have a personal relationship with you of love, peace, redemption and obedience ✝️ May Jesus bless you, repent of your sins and turn to Christ before it's too late 🙏🏿❤️

[@jamesconlin-90s]

The way james rizzled them walls dd somthing to me

[@l4dy_darkness]

@@blitzerni Hail Satan

[@juliagoetia]

​@@blitzerni "Obedience"? Yeah no thanks lol. I've already had an abusive daddy, I don't need a second one.

[@MillieDuu]

@@blitzerniNah I’m an atheist

[@jakemalone1154]

As I younger gamer who never played a lot of these late 90s and early 2000s masterpieces back then, I feel like it's really important to point out that it's nearly impossible to appreciate them as you guys did. So all in all I feel that as long as these remakes retain this type of quality and don't take too much away from game studios' bigger projects, I really appreciate them for making older games that wouldn't have been on my top 10 list have a shot at getting up there.

[@Gerraint]

I find it kinda funny how James did not even question what the hell is going on, not even once. Like everything was supposed to be, like it was normal, it just like that. Any normal person would immediately knows something is not right when you meet the girl that was stabbed a few hours ago, all kickin, alive and well. And here James just being James and did not call the bullshit at all. Another example is him casually sticking his hand in the wall hole and jump into the abyss without trying to find another solution. It's like he simultaneously know and doesn't know about Silent Hill. Maybe the whole looping thing is right. It's like you replaying Skyrim again and force your own brain to forget certain things so you can have that first time feeling again.

[@Voc_spooksauce]

I think people who go to Silent Hill are all incredibly lost in their own head, we see that with all the characters in this game, aside from Laura who is just a child and doesn't understand Mary is dead. So James is so lost that he kinda ignores or doesn't realize things are way too weird to be real, until he realizes it by the end, but things still interact with him so he has to defend himself

[@xav7311]

Maybe when you're in silent hill things just "make sense" you instinctively know what to do and how to do things, there's even some text in the games indicating that you can't deviate from what the "town wants", some things that should work just doesn't work until you do it "the right way", like it's all a convoluted plot (or like a dream, where things just happen or don't work how they should work)

[@magpie685]

Youre overthinking it, think of it how you would a lynch movie and stop applying realism to something that isnt real

[@mcgfn]

The only reason you're being so nitpicky is because you don't understand the game, sorry man

[@Stigmatix666]

There's also the fact that if your character in a game talks too much, they either sound crazy, become annoying or both.

[@aphelion4616]

Funny how he missed Pyramidhead standing there at 1:00:14 as he was going down the ladder xD Just standing there all casual as he descended xD

[@zilentecho3954]

That was subtle yet terrifying. I didnt even notice it untill you pointed it out.

[@Oldaccount_finnley]

I noticed that too lol

[@audreyzartman2588]

I thought I was the only one who noticed

[@TheInfamousSquid]

🧍‍♂️

[@IMGSince]

One of the reasons I love jacks content is he interacts so well with the audience, when he sneezed near the 3 hour mark I said “bless you” instinctively and then thought “oh that was stupid I’m watching a video he can’t hear me” and then he said “thank you for blessing me” and I froze for a moment because it was just so perfectly timed. Keep on keeping on Jack

[@NotBuddy0]

With James in the og, his voice actor, Guy Cihi. His daughter was going to audition for Laura I believe. Guy saw they were also auditioning for James and Guy, who was doing theater at the time was interested and went to audition. His daughter didn't get the part but he did as James. Love the playthrough, Jack! Glad you played the remake.

[@TarindrellaVidar]

He did not. Luke Roberts plays James in this remake.

[@NotBuddy0]

@@TarindrellaVidar I'm talking about Guy Cihi from the original game. Guy played James in the OG 2001 game.

[@UmbraMilla]

Jack, many thanks for soldiering through this. I don't think I could ever play this. As someone who's lost a family member to a terminal illness, I probably would have broken down while playing several times over. That conversation in the hallway before the final fight was... uncomfortably close to reality. However you managed to get through this, I salute you.

[@darlenebuck431]

lost my grandfather to cancer I know how it feels to loose a loved to a deadly disease.

[@kezi7728]

I'm very happy that you kept the ending a secret because I was not at all expecting any of the ending

[@FineAdditionCollector]

Honestly, Angela is the most tragic in this. Just remember, she walked up those stairs believing she deserved what happened.

[@slsthewriter1299]

I think the reason why dead Maria doesn't have the stab wound is because she actually died in the bed James left her to in the hospital, hence why we find the body in another hospital bed. And then, much later, she's stabbed and taken away. I think Maria and her lifespan throughout the game is all a mirror of Mary, where James perceives her death as the one in the hospital bed, not what happened thereafter.

[@Banshee_Null]

oh like the double bed, her returning n stuff?

[@thesmilingdeadguy2888]

Damn that ending actually got me teary eyed. This game reminded me of a story I read somewhere about how a man lost he’s wife to cancer and how he had to be strong for his two daughters but sent them to there grandparents the day after his wife died and when the night came that night he screamed at the top of his lungs until he couldn’t anymore and cried until it hurt. That story and this game makes me wonder. Why do bad things happen to good people?

[@taramcneely8498]

i love that even though you also make commentary, you “play” as whatever character you play. Even saying “ow!” when they get hurt. I love your playthroughs bc of this!

[@strongpowerthankyou9298]

When I was 9, I accidentally watched bits of the Silent Hill movie on the TV, and it terrified me for years on end and terrorized me in my nightmares… So much so that I never bothered with it again, it just felt horrible. So watching this series was like exposure therapy for me; because now I am 25 and able to see through the horror right down into the beautiful storytelling that uses horror elements for impact. This was absolutely wonderful, I don’t usually cry at video games but this one really made me tear up; so many complex emotions in this ending. I really understand now why this has always been such a big thing in the gaming community. And my fears are all gone 🤍

[@jordankapral]

Dude same. My bio father showed me the movie when I was 5-6 💀

[@karinav555]

Same, my dad was watching the movie and I caught the scene of the girl telling her mom she’s burning… my 7 yo brain did not like that. It haunted me so much that I tried playing the PT when I was 13 to get over it but that only traumatized me even more lol Now looking back I wish I powered through, these games are incredible

[@Nb61777]

Glad you were able to overcome them!

[@DefiantPunk0810]

As someone with a medium to medium high end computer hearing Jack complain about bad frames is oddly reassuring

[@SpoopyChicken]

I love how James' crosshari jitters during Eddie's fight, it just goes to show how nervous and on edge james was when he's finally fighting another person.

[@lychirose]

Honestly I love what they did with Eddie's fight. You blasted through it really quickly (bravo) but I can see this going on for a while and the tension the devs were going for. They did an amazing job!

[@AngelofGrace96]

"The truth is, I just wanted you out of the way" "If that's true, why do you look so sad?" Genuinely the best addition to the remake. Wow.

[@Nergleyt]

Hey Jack. I just wanted to say thank you for uploading and always keeping positive. I just got out of an abusive relationship of 3 1/2 years and your videos have really helped me get through the toughest days. You have brought some light into my darkest days:)

[@80sfangirly]

congratulations! you are stronger then you know, much love ❤‍🔥

[@Nergleyt]

@@80sfangirly thank you ❤️

[@hagnekore]

laura is actually eight, mary didn't die 3 years ago but actually few days ago - James delusions make him think its 3 years ago

[@ChicagoRatHole]

She got sick three years ago. That's why he associates it with her death, the Mary _he_ remembers died then.

[@hagnekore]

@@ChicagoRatHole good addition, fr he sees her dead since she got sick

[@popsickle6207]

@@ChicagoRatHole The moment she is no longer Mary he knew and love or should we say ''Dead".

[@drumstick74]

In the VHS tape James plays at the end, he is even wearing the same M65 jacket. That is also a hint that the killing took place very recently, and the truth dawns on him.

[@Stigmatix666]

@@drumstick74 Veery recently. Most likely directly prior to the start of the game. Not confirmed, but highly probable.

[@InquisitionL6]

Thanks Jack! I really appreciate you bringing attention to this as someone who's working hard in public health. While raising money is great and a massive help and makes such a huge impact. People should also just go talk to a therapist, even if they don't think they need to yet. Many mental illnesses and things are overlooked because we can't see what's abnormal when it's our normal. We're all angry, sad, full of anxiety and depressed, but until we walk through the door and actually seek help, we will keep pushing it off saying "It's always been like this, what's one more day of it?' Please go talk to someone, you might need it and not even know it.

[@kthskies]

i’m yet to finish the last video but as someone that also has ADHD i wanted to say please don’t worry about the way you play the game, especially with getting lost in areas or revisiting them upon being confused. viewers who truly respect you won’t care about that!! we love watching you play games and i know what it’s like when you’re trying to keep up with a hundred different locations and quests. you got it! :D

[@jamesconlin-90s]

New Silent Hill lore james is a rizz king rizzing up them walls

[@iybsky3331]

Potential Spoilers Ahead: Correct me if I'm wrong about anything here but, as for Eddie, he was relentlessly bullied for his weight and appearance to the point that he went to one of the bullies houses and shot his dog. When said bully tried to confront him he shot him in the leg, but didn't kill him. Eddie fleeing from the police is what lead him to Silent Hill. The closest comparison you can kind of give to Eddie is Gomer Pyle from Full Metal Jacket, just bullied to the point of psychopathy. As for Angela, its heavily implied that her father, as well as her brother on occasion, physically and sexually abused her. Her mother never did anything to stop it, which eventually lead to Angela taking her fathers life by stabbing him several times with a knife. She also killed her brother by means unknown, but its theorized that she killed him by trapping him in the house and setting it on fire, hence her always seeing fire. Its been stated my Masahiro Ito himself that Angela also died by the end of the game, but we don't currently know how, (I assume by taking her own life.) Its also never stated what happened to her mother, though its also theorized that she fled and took her own life unbeknownst to Angela, which is why she's desperately trying to find her. Two very sad and tragic stories, but there is a stark difference between the two, being that Angela killed out of pure defense and in an act of trying to escape a seemingly unescapable situation, and Eddie killed an innocent defenseless dog, as well as crippled a kid potentially for life. Even though Eddie didn't deserve to be bullied, he committed an evil act, which is why most people find it hard to feel any sympathy for him like they do Angela. As for your questions about Laura, she was in the hospital with Mary getting treatment for unknown reasons, and they became very close. Mary actually wanted to adopt her as she was an orphan, but she was close to death by that point, and was unable to do so. James didn't actually kill Mary 3 years ago, in fact it was only about 3 days prior to the start of the game. This is further proven by the fact that Mary's body is in the back seat of James's car covered with a blanket (you can see it by noclipping). James leaving with Laura at the end of the "Leave" ending, is basically him leaving with only part of Mary that was left, as well as fulfilling Mary's desire to adopt Laura. She's not a ghost as far as I'm aware. Its kind of a shame that most people don't consider Leave to be the canon ending, as its the most satisfying in my opinion. Most consider the depressing "In Water" ending to be canon, and Bloober further hinted at that being the fact by not having James respond to Angela when she asks if he plans to use the knife on himself. It goes even further when James' father in Silent Hill 4 says that his son went to Silent Hill and never returned. Also i love the time loop theory for James. Its always kind of been a thing since the original game but it feels like the remake is leaning into it much more especially with the UFO ending. This is all off the top of the dome so I wont be surprised if some of this information isn't 100% accurate, just let me know if any of it needs corrected.

[@ilaya4183]

thank you, that was a good bunch of theories to ponder over

[@sweetrumman6496]

I can't fully hate Eddie even though he did kill an innocent dog. He could've been severely bullied to the point where his whole life is miserable.

[@linkparadox777]

As far as I'm aware, all of what you've said is accurate for each (as far as popular theories go anyways). Another thing to note is that the first time you meet Eddie, there's a bunch of football stuff around the apartment, implying that his bully is a jock, and in shooting his bully's leg Eddie ruined the bully's future prospects, hence he says he cried more than the dog. Also, as Jack noticed, the hunks of meat in Eddie's boss arena don't actually really resemble any animal, as it's Eddie's perception of himself from the relentless bullying he's been subject to. I also think that the Leave ending is a very fitting cannon ending, as it means that the three people we see tormented by silent hill end up dealing with confronting their trauma in different ways: Eddie goes off the deep end, Angela sees no other way out, and James resolves his trauma and is able to move on.

[@darlenebuck431]

in a not complete way I kind of felt bad for Eddie for being bullied for being called "fat" and "ugly" I went through that in middle school and I've been self-conscious about my weight and looks my whole life but what Eddie did was wrong too about harming an innocent animal. I've never snapped at anyone I just lock myself up and cry my eyes out.

[@iybsky3331]

@@linkparadox777 yeah the original is a bit less subtle some things with Eddie imo, like him saying something like, "he wont be playing football on that leg anymore" and also all the meat in the room looking like they have pants on and just sort of obviously resembling Eddie. If there's anything about remake Eddie, it feels like they made him feel more disgusting and unlikable way earlier on than the original. Like in my first playthrough of the original I didn't really suspect anything of him until towards the end. And yeah Leave is perfect to me. In Water just doesn't feel like a satisfying conclusion to the game after all that James and the player went through. Its a shame that its so obviously teased that its the canon ending though.

[@nickmerriman5373]

2:15:12 "There's a hair on my face!" -Bearded man

[@MiSHy1121]

I’m not a fan of chase stuff, but I love how in the Abstract Daddy fight you experience what Angela did, running and hiding from her rampaging father. Super dark, but a very clever, symbolic way to implement a chase sequence.