Silverado Steering Wheel Position Sensor (Service stabilitrak and traction control)

[@robertemmons2260]

It's been four years since you had published this video, and your video is still helping folks out with their SAS replacement. After determining that it was a bad Steering Angle Sensor I had ordered it online and it had arrived the very next day, which is amazing since I live in a remote area in Utah 3 hours away from SLC. I have a 2010 GMC Sierra 1500 SLE Z71. This repair had taken me about 45 minutes from the time that I had removed the negative battery cable to the time that I had reconnected it. The hardest part of this job was working on it after work in the dark.

[@gutiesan]

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRE+CT ! Thank you for this video. I took my truck to the dealer and was told it was the cold air aftermarket induction. They said they couldn't fix until I replaced it with the STOCK intake. They wanted to charge me and I fought them and did not pay. Other supposedly "Professional GM TECHNICIANS" said it was the computer and wanted huge money to fix. I did the research here on KZbin and found your video and you are right. Ordered the Steering Wheel Position Sensor and it cost me 45 bucks. I Just finished replacing it. PERFECT ! My sincerest thanks to you for helping me with your video.

[@allenmundorff3941]

Roughly how many startups and miles have you put on it since, just to verify it stayed fixed? Just curious.

[@gutiesan]

I have started it up hundreds of times and absolutely no problems. No error codes when I have it scanned. No Service Stabilitrack/Service Traction Control messages or Ding-Dings. My truck had all of the symptoms in the video Brian posted . No mechanic (tech) could diagnose it. Even the Chevy dealer techs couldn't and said it was the high performance air intake and that I had to re-install the stock system and bring it back to them. The video Brian posted is completely correct and I followed it to a Tee. I ordered the part from GM online and only paid 46 dollars and I did the INSTALL in my driver. i viewed Brian's video numerous times so that when I started, I had ALL OF THE NEEDED tools as Brian described. It went super smooth and the engine no longer goes up and down in rpm's when cruising in slower speeds.

[@allenmundorff3941]

That is good news. I don't like to R/R without testing, but when techs tell you it's something as unrelated as the intake I gotta think I can make a better WAG than that.

[@B2sdad512]

@@gutiesan they said it was the intake? Wow...thats a stretch if I ever heard. Somehow they work at the dealership?

[@CBose-gb1pm]

Straight up to the point with humility and pertinent tips. Thanks dude.

[@kylepage4847]

Watched this video. Did my sensor today in less than 45 minutes. Thanks! Good little 10 min walk through made it easy.

[@2003Trailblazer]

Good stuff man, thanks a lot for posting this! Just replaced my sensor on a 2008 chevy avalanche. The process is the same but yes I had torx 30 for the 3 bolts on that metal shield. The part number that came off the truck was different than what went on, but I got the new number from the dealership. Calibration afterwards was not required for me. Ratchet straps were a brilliant idea as well!

[@rgii8060]

Good video! I wish I had watched this before I took my truck to the dealership. They charged me $400!

[@matthowie2557]

Thanks it worked and appreciated the video, I replaced all abs sensors before this and it did not fix the problem.

[@davidboettcher9296]

Thank a lot for this video. Ive been having this problem for over a year now on my 2014 2500hd. I got the part on order.

[@brandonnguyen1486]

What symptoms were you having? My gas pedal would go dead and brakes lightly applied when I would make a turn. 2014 1500. That would trigger my stabilitrac light

[@Brownthebuilder84]

Thanks man. Video help a lot. Replaced on my 2011 Chevy

[@jamiehargreaves9141]

I agree with the comment below about the torx/star wrench versus the allen wrench. I could not see the top of the guard, so ended up stripping the screws with a allen wrench before I realized it was a torx/star wrench. Also, I did not hear you mention the spring that comes with the new sensor. I think you need to leave the spring in place for correct alignmnent until the sensor is installed on the steering column.

[@kevinm8869]

Dude your the best!!!! I have the exact same issue!!! VIDEO WAS VERY HELPFUL

[@dariusld]

Thanks to this video, I tackled the job. One mistake in the video, I think, did you say allen, mine was a star for the 3 bolts on top

[@sbond1963]

The easier way is to disconnect the intermediate shaft. Then you just pull it out from Below. Done. I don't know why the manual says to do it the other way

[@johnnysudz]

Thanks for taking the time to make this tutorial video; your explanations helped a lot. I was able to remove/install the new sensor within an hour. This was the fix to my issue!

[@LuisMartinez-wx2ym]

this video helped me replace my sensor aswell!

[@ricardobenin7830]

dude - you must have been raised on a farm because you are clever !

[@davidboettcher4554]

Just had to do this. Fixed the stabilitrak issue. Thanks for the tips. Helped me out a bunch.

[@davidboettcher4554]

2014 Silverado 2500hd. Btw. Same exact setup

[@parkerlazenby712]

Would your service stabilitrak light come on and sometimes slow your vehicle down and shift funny?

[@Uriah625]

Went to dealership to get the part. How do I know if I need the Gen 2 or Gen 3 sensor?

[@brianduke80]

Does the sensor actually free spin in the center? My used one would spin freely but the new sensor would not. Installed new one and put all of it back together and the new sensor was making a clicking sound. Warning light and message cleared but it sounded horrible when I turned the wheel. Autozone had to order it again for me. Just think my new part was bad, it would not spin even with 2 fingers and pressure.

[@OutdoorPsychosis]

To be honest I'm not 100 percent from memory but I'm pretty sure it doesnt free spin

[@rvanders037]

You left the alignment spring in.

[@brandonnguyen1486]

What symptoms were you having? My 2014 has no codes or anything on a scanner. When pull out to turn, sometimes it triggers my stabilitrac light, it makes my brakes lightly apply, and gas pedal goes dead till the stabilitrac light goes off. Truck won't spin a tire even in mud

[@OutdoorPsychosis]

I don’t want to lie to you it’s been a long time I can’t honestly remember

[@zekerocks9217]

Wheb your service lights come on would your truck skid or givr sime resistance when turning the wheel?

[@midniht34]

I have the same problem with my 2012 silverado. I took it to the dealer and they said it was my sterring wheel position sensor. so I bought a new one. I brought it to a mechanic and he said That it might not calibrate. does it have to be calibrated or programed

[@cyn-1776]

Steering Position sensor and R&R Steering wheel sensor are listed on my bill. It defenately fixed it Mechanic said it had to be positioned just right before removing the pin. $180 total parts n labor 2012 Silverado LTZ

[@jbvang13]

After replacing the part or sensor and the lights are still on it means that must to reprogram!

[@sparco023]

Hey boss, big question here. Do you know if a bad wheel alignment could trigger the lights to come on? Mine come on every now and then and turn off when I reset the truck. Thanks in advance and happy holidays

[@OutdoorPsychosis]

Easiest way to narrow it down would be pulling the code off the system then you can diagnose the problem

[@Optixz]

This was a fantastic tutorial, but the “allen screws” are actually torque screws

[@OutdoorPsychosis]

Ya I had Allens they definitely were not torx heads

[@vickg]

Hey did you have to calibrate the steering wheel after replacement?

[@carnz06]

Also curious about this as well. just replaced mine and light is still on. But im getting a loss of comm on the sas 2018 seirra

[@chevy13319]

hey good video just wondering though did your truck mark ABS, TRACTION CONTROL AND STABILITRAK?

[@OutdoorPsychosis]

All I had on my dash was service Stabilitrak and service traction control, and when I used my code reader I got the steering wheel position sensor code.

[@dgtx8918]

brian13ecker is there any "programming" or reseting required once you have the new sensor in?

[@carnz06]

@@OutdoorPsychosis was it a loss of comm? do you still recall the code haha long shot

[@cicakbalap]

Bro, what is the part number for the sensor? just got the same message on my chevy 2011

[@BlueSpud711]

I'm having the same issue. My dealership is wanting to replace the harness too, which is even more $$. So just changing the sensor for you fixed everything? No harness change needed?

[@OutdoorPsychosis]

Yes just changing the sensor worked, didn't change harness at all.

[@OutdoorPsychosis]

Yes just changing the sensor worked, didn't change harness at all.

[@thevansprofessor]

brian13ecker very much appreciate the vid man. Shit was super simple thanks to it.

[@sophiaamedeo9540]

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[@chrispeerman7445]

I did this on my 2011 chevy silverado an it DIDN'T fix the issue still getting the service stabilitrak .

[@philiplamn9512]

try the ground wires !!

[@christianwalterevo]

Excellent video! Gonna tackle this tomorrow morning, maybe tonight.... How'd you read the C code? I've got an elm 321 and Diablosport Intune and couldnt read the code.... Had to pay the dealer to pull it

[@OutdoorPsychosis]

You need a code reader that can also catch abs codes not all of them do, they usually cost more. I got an actron costs about 200 I think.

[@christianwalterevo]

+brian13ecker got it replaced. It was a pain fitting down there..... One thing to note, I had to pull the coil spring thing out of the new sensor. Also, the lights are still on.... Thanks GM dealer for steering mr wrong!

[@oscarcontreras400]

very helpful ..Thanks!!

[@noevenegas1099]

I have a 2010 z71 and I got it lifted today (7.5in) and the same thing happened to my truck. Perhaps it's the same fix or could there be a posibilita that during installation a cable could have been damaged ?

[@gallerodejalisco]

SLP Venegas I got a quick question maybe you can help me out. I got a 08 yukon I just lifted 7.5 and now I'm having those issues what ended up being the problem on your truck.

[@traceycontreras4501]

Sergio Perez did you get yours fixed? I have a suburban with a 7.5 in lift and I have the same problem.

[@jayc2754]

did you have a spring on the back of your sensor? did you remove it?

[@marcomedina757]

Can you please tell me which scanner do you use

[@Cassie1nonly1]

Mine is doing the same thing when you turn the wheel past 180 degrees. Another symptom I have and am also curious if yours did it as well, is loss of throttle response? No check engine light or "reduced engine power" warnings associated with the loss of throttle, does it whenever it wants.

[@OutdoorPsychosis]

I never had that issue, mine would just lock up going around a bend due to the sensor malfunction, got a little dangerous

[@Cassie1nonly1]

Dang, that would be scary. Mine doesn't lock, but am thinking the loss of throttle could be associated to the bad sensor making the service stabiltrak and traction control warnings come on. Under normal working conditions, the stabiltrak and traction control work off/share the same system. When your tires break loose, it retards the timing and engages the stabiltrak/traction control and is a seamless transition under normal working conditions. In my case, I THINK, when I have throttle loss, the system thinks my tires are breaking loose and lasts for up to about a mile or so in some instances. I'm hoping by replacing the steering sensor, it will also fix my loss of throttle issue.

[@iStevens0n713]

20910871 part number

[@rodolfolara1779]

@Cassie1nonly1 what was the problem with your truck??

[@thomasherrington5521]

Thanks👍

[@abelardohernandez3039]

👍Brian

[@abry42000]

Thanks very much

[@ricardobenin7830]

what reader were you using - OBD2 OR GM Tech2 ? How did you get this code ? thanks

[@affinityfunable]

Zurich zr13 from Harbor Freight gave me all my abs codes including this c0710 steer wheel sensor code

[@Noname-bw1qx]

Be careful when buying the locking pin.. Alot of them dont fit or even lock the wheel and you still gotta tape and strap the damn thing.

[@7natcho]

1aMThEZeR0 1aMThEZeR0 The only way you will the clock spring would be damaged is if the steering wheel was to turn over 1 1/2 turns from center either way . The way Mr Knowitall did his angle sensor it would never happen ! Just a little info from a licenced tech !

[@Noname-bw1qx]

@@7natcho oh yeah i know, even the proper pin allows the wheel to rotate between 10-2 on the clock. Taping the wheel is a shade tree mechanic kind of deal. I did mine just in case. Because taping it didnt seem like a bad idea, just kind of desperate. The job itself is fairly self explanatory for anyone with common sense and halfway handy digits. 😎

[@7natcho]

@@Noname-bw1qx Yes you are correct the locking pin does have a lot of play that is because when GM created to too they created it with the knowledge that movement in the wheel my be required to access the intermediate shaft lock bolt . That is the difference between Mr Knowitall who posted the video and mechanics who do this job on a regular basis . My reply was a tidbit of info mixed with a hint of sarcasm . I get frustrated with KZbin Shadetree Mechanics . Odds are he watched other videos and attempted the job and did or didn't have success on the first try . No-one will ever know because if a KZbinr majorly fucked up their vehicle do you really think they would post a video . Guys like him make people think competent Mechanics jobs are easy and anyone can do it . The difference is any mechanic out there does not change Steering Angle sensors every day all day long . Mechanics like myself work on a variety of vehicles every day all the time . We have forgotten more than this clown will ever know about vehicle repair so demean a trade is talking out his ass ! I laughed my ass off when he said the bottom of his steering column was connected to the drive shaft is a obvious demonstration of Mr Knowitall's vast knowledge !

[@Noname-bw1qx]

@@7natcho hahaha

[@broken080]

same codes on dash, but they come and go. Does the code need to be active in order to be read with the scanner, or can they pull it after it's gone?

[@OutdoorPsychosis]

It will stay on the system until cleared

[@Lore-wv5mt]

I have that problem haven't try to fix it ...

[@broken080]

mine was a bad valve solenoid

[@OutdoorPsychosis]

Bad valve solenoid where? What code did that populate?

[@broken080]

variable valve timing solenoid. These codes are generic codes for "something is wrong with the vehicle outside of the OBDII computer" so it disables stabilitrac since something isn't right. So thise code could mean 100 things

[@reyesromero25]

Did it fix the codes thou? No more service stabilitrak service traction control?

[@OutdoorPsychosis]

Yes, everything works perfectly to date still.

[@reyesromero25]

I'm going to be trying it here next weekend or so. Where did you get the part and what was the part #? Thank you in advance

[@OutdoorPsychosis]

+Corinna Alyssa Romero-Reyes Part number is in beginning of the video and I believe I ordered it off amazon or eBay

[@iftikharkhan1723]

@@OutdoorPsychosis Did you have any problems with jerking or when driving and turning the steering wheel it would jerk after the stability light turned on?

[@OutdoorPsychosis]

@@iftikharkhan1723 yes I almost crashed

[@abry42000]

What type of scanner

[@OutdoorPsychosis]

Actron cp9690

[@dariusld]

Google this "4583779 service bulletin" First one is a PDF.

[@circlepfarm9729]

Thanks for commenting on this! I have this problem and I think seeing the service bulletin you mentioned and following GM's fix will correct this. Thanks (sure beats replacing the sensor assy).

[@abelardohernandez3039]

thanks for the info sir I'll try this first

[@TheDeathStick]

Just costed me $363 at the dealership yesterday -_- if I would have known.. I didn't know the part number dammit

[@iStevens0n713]

20910871 part number i just paid $35.99 for the part on ebay oem part and i wil be installing mysuelf soon.

[@TheDeathStick]

Funny thing is I sold my truck in January and ended up buying a brand new truck. Yeah this is an easy repair

[@iStevens0n713]

wow... that is a sick looking 2017. maybe its because its so "new" but i just gave a like to your video. congrats on the truck.

[@TheDeathStick]

Thanks man I really appreciate it. It's what I wanted. My of my last truck was a more of a spontaneous buy to fit my budget.

[@garysoldan4918]

Just cost me 300$ at the dealership to replace this, F ME!

[@americanpatriot2999]

Your video is very dark, nobody can see anything.

[@hhawki3]

Brian, I own a 2006 Envoy Denali XL 5.3L. My "service stabilitrak" has come on and won't go out. Before this light came on I was getting a clicking, ratchet noise whenever I would turn steering wheel to the left or right. I was able to drive vehicle, no problem. Then the noise eventually stopped but now service stabilitrak light is on and when I try to drive vehicle it try's to apply brakes going backward and forward. What do you recommend?

[@z71overland05]

Were you able to find the solution?

[@hhawki3]

I finally got rid of it. It went away on its own. That Envoy was always causing issues. Wish I had never purchased it! Thanks for following up though! @@z71overland05