The magnet test is good if used with all the other tests.
@Jonas_Albert2 жыл бұрын
Yes. You should do all tests to se if it's fake or real.
@andrewfong4216 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is a good screening test. And if the coin has a copper core, it either weighs less than an authentic or has different dimensions because Cu is not as dense as Ag.
@Crispy6405 ай бұрын
Yes it should be 1 of many many. Never definative, niether is a sigma pmv alone, or ping sound etc Only thing is an xray thats dependable 100%.
@iceresistance3 жыл бұрын
I do the ‘Silver Sound’ Test on circulating coins. That is how I discovered my first Silver coin: 1966 80% Silver Canadian Quarter.
@andrewfong4216 Жыл бұрын
Yep, with just a little practice you can hear junk silver being jingled all the way across a room.
@ChristopherSchmittgplus Жыл бұрын
You have to couple the slide test with size and weight. Sure copper is diamagnetic, but a coin made out of it will be significantly off on either size or weight. (your fake one is noticeably bigger) They will also slide down a magnetic slide at different rates so having a reference is important.
@SilverSeeker Жыл бұрын
Actually the fake one is the same diameter its just lighter. But I made this video because I had people telling me they just use a magnet... nothing else.
@AlexOvechkinSucks Жыл бұрын
@@SilverSeeker but it’s perfectly sound logic though. If it’s made a copper, it will be either 86% lighter, or 17% larger, or a mix between those two. I guess this highlights that likely no single test is accurate and requires a minimum of two unique forms of measurement to determine validity. Anyway, I still appreciated your video. Thank you.
@littlepookie79763 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for the explanations. Most of us out in the economy don't know anything about silver ...
@slylyunleashed84193 жыл бұрын
Great info man I remember learning this from you a long time ago very helpful
@SilverSeeker3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching!
@dbtrek4393 жыл бұрын
I actually built a full rare earth magnet slide when I first got into PMs - and was quickly disillusioned when much of my common house change slid just as slowly as silver did.
@venusrise3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@egillis2143 жыл бұрын
Same
@iceresistance3 жыл бұрын
The best test is the ‘Sliver Sound’ Test, has a higher pitch than the other clad coins
@Bullish3693 жыл бұрын
your angle was off then. As he showed the magnet does have an effect. You need strong enough magnet as well.
@pedrowhack-a-mole6786 Жыл бұрын
That's because all US coins except for 35%, 40%, and 90% silver coins, 1943 steel pennies, and post-82 zinc pennies have a high percentage, above 75%, of copper and therefore diamagnetic.
@collectingonthecheap563533 жыл бұрын
This is new to me. I have seen brokers just use a magnet to see if something that should not be magnetic, sticks to a magnet, but have only seen them use other testing methods to verify precious metals and purity.
@cweave023 жыл бұрын
I also do the ping test. BTW, today I got my "pre order" of the T2 2021 Silver Eagles from Monument Metals.
@SilverSeeker3 жыл бұрын
Woot!
@Haibing223 жыл бұрын
Bring a rare earth magnet, a scale, and a ruler (a sound test app is also good). You will also need the information of the coin that you are purchasing (weight and measurements). A fake may pass one of the tests, but not all of them
@JackalopeHerdmaster3 жыл бұрын
Awesome educational video. Thanks for doing this!
@goldandsilverstack33 жыл бұрын
It's always good to use multiple types of tests
@stevehensonuk2 жыл бұрын
This is a huge help - thanks. I tended to rely on the neodymium test only - so this helps put my mind at rest!
@toolsmetals21483 жыл бұрын
Silver is a good thermal conductor. So if you put an ice cube on top of your silver item, then the ice cube will start to melt quickly. An ice cube placed on silver will melt quicker than on iron and a little quicker than on copper.
@tokraaz3 жыл бұрын
Oooh, great video, thanks!
@RaceCreations3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE my Pocket Coin Pinger! Thank you Seeker for your AWESOME channel!
@SilverSeeker3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it! Thanks so much!
@hg41443 ай бұрын
Don't have a pocket pinger, but I just ping the coin with another coin
@DJ-ze9ze3 жыл бұрын
I just got one of them pocket ping test at my fisrt coin show the other week works great
@hg41443 ай бұрын
"Ping" test is the way to go ... . ..
@Hives2honeyfarm3 жыл бұрын
I just ordered one through your link. Thanks for your videos.
@guystumm93873 жыл бұрын
What about sterling coins, does it have a enough silver to do the same thing on the magnet? Curious and thanks for any answers.
@johnsumner29873 жыл бұрын
Sterling silver is .925 or 92.5% silver. Yes it will do the same thing with a magnet.
@guystumm93873 жыл бұрын
@@johnsumner2987 Thank you sir
@johnsumner29873 жыл бұрын
@@guystumm9387 No problem
@agprice66073 жыл бұрын
OWWW.....that hurt ....lol great video, you did a perfect job explaining how this works. Definately another option for checking your silver. Thanks for sharing. SALUTE>
@SilverSeeker3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@practicaloccultist2313 жыл бұрын
I like using the rare earth magnet test along with a scale. I always verify my bullion through my LCS though.
@garyk8285 Жыл бұрын
What was the weight and dimensions of the Fake Silver coin that passed the magnet test? Surely the dimensions (using calipers) and the weight would differ enough?
@TheToolfreak19883 жыл бұрын
Is the crown mint considered a reputable dealer?
@SaMiFarr3 жыл бұрын
Always good info!! Thanks!!
@SilverSeeker3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@m.t.n.vaults56893 жыл бұрын
Ordered one brother
@KashfuzzCrochet763 жыл бұрын
I bought a Pocket pinger! Cait wait. Thank you 😎✌️🌻🌻
@richardmetcalf23463 жыл бұрын
Didn't get notified about this video. Glad I found it. 👍👍👍👍👍
@a.d.h10193 жыл бұрын
Where can i buy a magnet like you are showing in your video
@robertstroback33623 жыл бұрын
You can buy one on Ebay.
@bricktownsilver55233 жыл бұрын
Interesting, thanks for sharing!
@jimthompson99923 жыл бұрын
Great info Seeker!!
@polandm3 жыл бұрын
Just mine your own ore and cast your own bars! Duh!
@therobbyguy3 жыл бұрын
Good vid. Thanks for the pinger link. Ordered a pinger and a fake coin. Cheers!
@wowmageturtle153 жыл бұрын
dont "solely" rely on this test, correct. i personally like doing a calipers diameter test + a scale, and a ping test.
@kevinpratt4253 жыл бұрын
great info as always thank you
@SilverSeeker3 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@kevinshockey27653 жыл бұрын
Just curious did the copper coin weigh correctly?
@mamahydro9043 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! 😊👍
@CoinCrew3 жыл бұрын
LOL. ..finger test doesn't feel good. But seriously this is a good video for info
@SilverSeeker3 жыл бұрын
LOL thanks so much!
@jeffcrumpler87933 жыл бұрын
Right
@p38cobra3 жыл бұрын
Very good tutorial. Thank you
@Thegooglemapsperson3 жыл бұрын
4:46 LOL
@katiebailey91803 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!! Thanks!!!
@danganz81533 жыл бұрын
Very informative , thanx Silver Seeker
@beastmodeforever863 жыл бұрын
Nailed it
@thesarge4457 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I learned something today. Thank You Sir.
@cyclonicsilver27733 жыл бұрын
Great Info!!
@juggernaut3163 жыл бұрын
does the ping tester work on random very old silver rounds?
@stevedmytrusz83473 жыл бұрын
Great content! 👍
@95ZR580Ай бұрын
My father in law left my kids each a couple silver morgans when he passed. All fake. 2 of them were in the right weight range while the other 2 were way light. All failed the ping test 😌. It was enough to get us all into collecting coins tho. Great video!
@jeffdege478611 ай бұрын
Unlike gold, silver has a specific gravity that is fakeable. Lead is denser than silver, copper, tin, and zinc are lighter. So there's a ratio where an alloy of copper and lead that has the same density as silver. But is that alloy diamagnetic?
@beethao93806 ай бұрын
Just getting into this topic, but I already figured out that the the 925 and magnet tests can be bypassed/faked. The problem is that people just repeat what they've read online and never take time to do research on the basics. But as always, I'm always the exception and not the norm. To answer your question, yes. Going back to the "basics" copper is diamagnetic while tin and zinc are not magnetic.
@jeffdege47866 ай бұрын
@@beethao9380 But the alloy? Is it possible to create an alloy that will match specific gravity and the magnet test?
@beethao93806 ай бұрын
Just getting into this topic, but I already figured out that the the 925 and magnet tests can be bypassed/faked. The problem is that people just repeat what they've read online and never take time to do research on the basics. But as always, I'm always the exception and not the norm.
@pedrowhack-a-mole6786 Жыл бұрын
Testing the mass of a coin is highly reliable, very inexpensive, and repeatable. A jeweler's scale, an appropriately sized vessel filled with water, dental floss or thread, and a calculator are all that are required. It does take a little more time to perform and requires getting your coin wet, but I consider this test a valuable tool in my verification "toolkit".
@SilverSeeker Жыл бұрын
I've covered specific gravity on the channel more than once, no worries there. :)
@again5162 Жыл бұрын
So the same test a Greek king payed for to see if his crown was pure gold is still in use
@henrydecker1718 Жыл бұрын
Did notice the fake spun rather than slid. I trust my magnet
@SilverSeeker Жыл бұрын
Real ones spin also just depends on where you place it kn the magnet
@shawn17443 жыл бұрын
More4 great useful info..
@JamesBrown-rm2rd Жыл бұрын
what about silver bars, does the ping test work with bars too.?
@willlan33143 жыл бұрын
🤘👍Great video!
@exgenica Жыл бұрын
I thought the "pocket pinger" has that built-in plastic extrusion to strike the coin so you don't need to use any external stick, pen, whatever. Or...is there a reason you don't use the built-in striker? edited to fix typo edited to be more precise
@SilverSeeker Жыл бұрын
I prefer to just strike it with a stick, but yes that is there also.
@rogergriffith2866 ай бұрын
Thanks for the details.
@44Mag3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff...
@Hd-sp1iv2 жыл бұрын
I have counterfeit non-silver coins that give the same ping as silver coins. The solution is to use a balance and the ramp test as metals with other densities will weigh more or less.
@LineupLegend2 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thank you!
@SuperFredAZ24 күн бұрын
just weigh the coins and measure them. If the copper coin is the same size it will be much lighter than 31 grams. Silver eagles should be ~ 3 mm thick, very easy to measure with a pair of calipers
@ZenithClarity2 жыл бұрын
@4:45 LOL!!!
@ottisqaiucci29873 жыл бұрын
Will a One oz. Rectangle ping the same ?
@SilverSeeker3 жыл бұрын
It will still sound like Silver but no it wouldn't sound the same as an eagle. Thickness diameter shape all change the sound.
@MrZorg-jr7vs2 жыл бұрын
How about the specific gravity test
@JoeMama-ll7zr Жыл бұрын
does the pocket pinger work on "junk silver", how about old dirty coins?
@christopherleubner6633 Жыл бұрын
Pure or coin silver will make a fairly drastic eddy current test. To do so space a rosette of rare earth magnets spaced about 2x the target coin thickness. A silver coin will act like it is falling through molasses. So will other metals like copper, but silver is a bit slower. It is a quick test to test for plated. Another way to use a magnet is that for metals of similar density it requires a nickel layer that will attract a small re magnet to the coin. 🤓
@domingodeanda2333 жыл бұрын
Love that!
@staycalm.5 ай бұрын
Thank you kind sir😊
@gene9230 Жыл бұрын
Isn't this just because of the conductivity and magnetic induction, has nothing to do with the diamagnetism.
@anthony9thompson Жыл бұрын
So what was the coin that failed the magnet test made of ?
@Solo-Skywalker3 жыл бұрын
Yo where do I find a magnet like that
@kenshikenji2 жыл бұрын
The lenz effect is much stronger with silver than the copper so silver will slide much slower. So even tho they are both diamagnetic the ailve is more diamagnetic
@SilverSeeker2 жыл бұрын
It's stronger but not "much" stronger. If you don't know what you're looking for you'll get fooled quick
@Omnivorous1One Жыл бұрын
What size is that fishing magnet?
@williambush7971 Жыл бұрын
Its so bad I won't buy except from a reputable dealer, which I don't have in my area so I will order from SD or other bullion dealer. Its not worth getting ripped off.
@NickelNationCoinsMore3 жыл бұрын
👍
@SilverSeeker3 жыл бұрын
👍
@NicholasKon93 жыл бұрын
i always test it with magnet and ping test.
@NicholasKon93 жыл бұрын
but cooper are slightly lighter and the ping is different.
@Michaeldahan-iu1jv7 ай бұрын
How can you test a silver bar??
@atlassmith971411 ай бұрын
How would I test silver bars?
@michaelqueen59993 жыл бұрын
Did U create/invent the pocket pinger ?
@MERRLINN3 жыл бұрын
What about the u test? 1986 to 2007 has a u in United but 2008 to present has the serif in the United?
@RubberCityRebel2 жыл бұрын
My ping app is buggy Freezing up on me
@GinaR3 жыл бұрын
Great informations.
@drrobrr6316 Жыл бұрын
DO you have a link to the bullion test ap you use
@HDDynalowrider3 жыл бұрын
Magnet test is just one in your tool belt..
@Bullish3693 жыл бұрын
is there any metal or combo of metals that would pass both the slide and the weight test, in one coin? If not, that may be a nice cheap and easy combo for people to test their silver.
@nezircaglar23813 жыл бұрын
what about specific gravity test?
@SilverSeeker3 жыл бұрын
Good test but not easy to setup on a whim
@timsherry-s6q6 ай бұрын
This video is mislabeled I think it should say "why you shouldn't trust the silver magnet test on BULLION" this won't work on a necklace or a ring or something the sure fire way is call around to jewelry or pawn stores and ask if they have one of those handheld xray testers they tell you the exact percentages of the metal content in them....most good jewelry and pawn stores have them now!
@beethao93806 ай бұрын
thanks. hope my local one has them. hopefully its free to test or for a small fee.
@ShortManlet Жыл бұрын
I don't know why I watch this video I guess I find it entertaining I bought a sigma metaletics detector when I first got into silver. Best thing I ever did I bought a fake Platinum coin and I got a refund I paid like $900
@anthonydio72223 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@simonfuailetolo67982 жыл бұрын
Whos the best online site to purchase silver?
@Kim_Hyunseo3 жыл бұрын
Ok, we if we do weight and magnet test, am I good? Or do I need something more?
@SilverSeeker3 жыл бұрын
Use multiple but Weight + Magnet isn't enough, I'd at least at the ring test to that also. Additionally if it's a government issue like an Eagle I'd also check the size and thickness with a pair of calipers.
@spkay319 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info. Wondering if the ping test works well on 90% Constitutional silver as well as .999 pure?
@KCTShark3 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@Thunkful22 жыл бұрын
Is that ping tool any better than simply using silver dollar A to hit the test coin with & see if it sounds the same a hitting a real silver dollar with the same silver A ?
@SilverSeeker2 жыл бұрын
Pinger is quicker but the end result is the same. Before the pinger I used to balance the coin on my finger and hit it with a wood pencil so that it didn't damage the coin, but I would drop them alot.
@silvercabin5130 Жыл бұрын
I bought five 2023 Silver Eagles from a seller in China. The coins shipped from Kentucky. They passed the size , weight and magnetic slide tests and they are real silver. The weight test was spot on. Always test silver three or four ways . Spend a little to have peace of mind.
@Sticks-of-TNT-tf1tn3 жыл бұрын
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@markmyjak77397 ай бұрын
Brass does the same thing.
@SilverSeeker7 ай бұрын
Well brass is 2/3rds copper so yep :)
@daroccot3 жыл бұрын
magnet, ping, weight, dimensions. four easy non destructive tests.
@TheFutureisTheFuture Жыл бұрын
doing these test and the specific gravity test with water and a scale seems like it would be more that sufficient to prove the quality of the silver and even the % silver. So I guess no one needs a sigma device. 🙂
@SilverSeeker Жыл бұрын
Sigma provides speed AND accuracy. Specific gravity test is slow and messy so if you're testing a lot of items at once the Sigma is definitely useful. But is it NEEDED? No
@TheFutureisTheFuture Жыл бұрын
@@SilverSeeker agreed but for $1000+ for a real tester I'll take the messy water way and put that money towards gold and silver. 👍🏻 Good stuff!