RARE NGC and NCS Grading Results and Unboxing!

We got our coins from the NGC coin grading and NCS coin conservation service! Although I was able to, I did not log in and look at these grades before opening the box, so you are experiencing the unboxing with me and I learned their grades!
We had some highs and lows, but regardless of that it was a fantastic experience and alot of fun to share with you all!
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[@SilverSeeker]

Thanks for watching guys! This was a fun video to do and it is INCREDIBLY hard to not look online to see what the grades are when you know they are there! Waiting until I actually unbox them is still not something I'm used to doing, but it is WAY more fun to share the opening! Let me know in the comments here if you've ever had much luck with NGC and NCS!

[@fullpushmetals6711]

Well thanks to your shot.. i learned they have a weird way of following contractual agreements.. " improve condition to the point of crossing the "Cleaned" line. If you cant do anything.. then do nothin! They honestly make me like ngc less.. and i 💙 NGC.. 😕

[@kurtsarachick9221]

I enjoyed watching your enthusiasm. Very cool specimens.

[@kurtsarachick9221]

I feel bad, why would they clean it, cause it to lose all numismatic value AND charge you for it?

[@numanuma20]

Collectors: Don’t every clean coins! NCS: Hold my beer.....

[@merrymaurader2521]

😂😂😂

[@jamesgoss1860]

IMO, the coins looked better before the "restoration." I'm not impressed by NGC here.

[@ECP]

Well.... I have to say... many old cleanings do not show up till you have the coin conserved... the coin is not put down as a cleaned coin because of the conservation service you purchased for the coin... however the conservation can help show up an old cleaning because of the loss of the original luster, strike or abrasions ect... many of these do not show up readily until the coin is actually conserved... just my 2 cents my friend.... still some fabulous coins

[@SilverSeeker]

Yea I'm aware of that, and with 3 of the 4 perhaps that's correct... I disagree with that on the 1918-D Buff though. That coin was original all day.

[@ECP]

Silver Seeker I got ya I know the feeling

[@RobFindsTreasure]

My heart hurts in the Buffalo... looks like it’s three strikes you’re out on the ‘08S IHC brother. I’ll give it a good home if your tired of it’s “cleaned” grade yet. 🤓

[@SilverSeeker]

That's only the 2nd time on that 08-S... but that said I'm done with it. Remember I was working on 2 of them LOL. :) I am most upset about the Buff and Quarter. The Buff more because I know for a fact that it was original. The quarter may have been previously cleaned before so I am at peace with that one. Altho I still think it's Unc.

[@MMMMMMMMTTYYY]

coins: the pokemon cards of adults

[@clayscott8363]

Accurate

[@silversnatcher]

the fact im a kid who collects both cards and coins (mainly coins)

[@SilverBull30]

9:28 oh oh oh baby!! My friend walked in said "dude whatbr watching lol had to get that straight real quick thought I would share that LOL made me chuckle

[@TrevorABruce]

Such bs I would be sending the coins to the cleaning company saying justify this

[@sorsorscience0787]

I thought NCS sent back all the coins that they believed their restoration processes would make the coin grade worse or less. They also didn’t even remove the darkness on that 1834 quarter you sent in!

[@CoryWould]

Don’t go to the casino any time soon.

[@SilverSeeker]

I don't intend to LOL

[@DJSpydee]

NCS is good, but sometimes it exposes prior cleaning underneath

[@ECP]

Uncle Jesse exactly 👍👍👍

[@SilverSeeker]

I agree it can expose prior cleaning, but I don't believe that to be the case on the 1918-D. I'm not the only person that saw that coin before grading and even they said there is no way that was cleaned before hand.

[@orlandotheman8245]

@@SilverSeeker Sometimes people artificially dirty/tone coins to cover up prior cleaning. Not saying it's you or who you bought from. I recently had a coin that I sent to NCS it came back AU58 it was problem free but like you I thought it was UNC. My advice really look at those tone coins before buying and sending off for grading

[@SilverSeeker]

@@orlandotheman8245 aye I'm aware this wasnt toned it was just old and dingy. The rest I'll concede on that being possible but not the 1918-D.

[@bendahlager8068]

I missed this one. just watching two year after the fact. Seeker, I love how excited and disappointed you get. I can tell how much you love coins and the adventure of grading. I love this type of video.

[@LoughZ]

Did you contact NCS about this at all? I would love to know what they have to say about the "cleaned" and not restored

[@rsl6767]

You sound exactly like me during an unboxing 😄.. highs and lows. An emotional roller coaster that we look forward to riding again and again!

[@fiatdestroyer9716]

Thanks for doing these videos; I love this!

[@daveamtwo]

Did anyone other then me think he was getting a prostate exam. OHHHHHHHH MYYYYYY GODDDDDDDDDD OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YESSSSSSS LOL

[@BigstackMcgee]

Awesome vid, Silver Seeker - really enjoyed this one!

[@MrBigrob2u]

SS, I did a huge fist pump when I saw, then turned down my volume on my headphones 🎧 anticipating your reaction. Priceless bro

[@SilverSeeker]

LOL Awesome my friend!

[@flthunderdigginwrob3162]

This was my first grading video I've ever watched. As a metal detectorist and CRHer, starting to get back into coin collecting from my child hood. Really enjoyed this video, and your emotions on the grading. Just got my very first Walking Liberty Half in a box of halves. (Always thought people just made those up that they got, but BAM, little ole me got one in a 4 box hunt. Video is in the que! ATB Rob Florida Thunder

[@LoughZ]

These reactions are priceless! These are soundboard quality!!

[@mikek1402]

Love the format you do the videos!! Keep at it, new sub !

[@knoxstax1562]

Thanls for doing this, I have learned not to trust their "restoration" service. Turns out just paying for expensive cleaning at the end of the day.

[@JC_WIL]

Those are some awesome Coins I love the excitement that you have 🤠👍

[@randomjohn]

Thanks for sharing, learned lots. You the man.

[@samgardner4667]

Congrats on the large cent my man. That’s a hell of a find, and a nice payday should you ever decide to sell it

[@SilverSeeker]

Thanks my friend!

[@holdenbauer1255]

My rule of thumb when it comes to anything antique is do not restore them. Even an antique in bad shape is better than an antique that someone repaired because at least it is all original. Just my opinion.

[@mrmister8546]

my heart started pounding at 4:57 when the box top was opened.

[@1Grizzman]

NGC Gave me the blessing on my 2019 S Coin!!!!!! In hand today!!!!

[@RobinhoodCoins]

Thanks for sharing about NCS, I didn’t realize that existed

[@SilverSeeker]

Anytime, thanks for watching! :)

[@peacemaker6460]

loved the reaction at 8:28 for the 1805 penny, subbed!

[@joels1234]

Really like the NGC coins reveal.... very interesting...

[@LearnWithManny]

This was fun to watch. Love these unboxing videos

[@bill4572]

What I would do for higher end coins is down load photos of coins from auction sites and compare them to the coin your going to get graded and the dark spots on that one coin I think they are carbon spots I have a beautiful toned coin with the black spots someone told me it is carbon spots

[@handsometj3739]

Awesome video. Thanks for showing the before and after grading. Education

[@markbass354]

good video Seeker , the first buffalo nickel looked amazing , have a nice holiday season.

[@dabaglady]

congratulations. And restorations pretty much means the same to me. Its if we clean them it's a no- no but if they clean and restore it's done right. As long as they get a grade in the end who can complain.

[@maxshiraz3447]

The unboxing was off to a great start, but ultimately defeated. A bit like watching a Cubs game.

[@JoeDurbin]

Interesting results Seeker...Merry Christmas

[@numismaticstacker]

very cool video! I will be going to NGC from now on!

[@stephenkitchen6408]

Omg..I would be so pissed!!! You can totally tell they CLEANED them and then tell you that they are not in gradeable condition!! so why even have them professionally "restored" lame!!

[@misterTVman]

Perhaps they can only do so much, once a coin has been tampered with you cannot undo it no matter what methods or techniques you use. This is why I believe you should just accept coins for what they are and leave them raw, to me, grading companies are a waste of time and money.

[@thekidbilly5398]

Thank you for sharing beautiful coins

[@CoinCollecter-uh1uw]

what I think happened was the cleaned coins had already been cleaned but re-toned and the conservations showed the cleaning

[@timson3489]

They determine cleaned before NAC to prevent confusion when being graded.

[@SilverSeeker]

I am quite certain that is untrue... based on what they told me after I called them about this specific order. That said what makes you say that I just wanna make sure I have all info.

[@patrioticgoombah7595]

Some really nice grades. I’d disagree with some of the cleaned coins but regardless they came back graded nicely

[@paulmills426]

That sucks about the bust quarter coming back cleaned because you could dip the coin and make it look better than what the conservation place did and it wouldn't have cost extra but you never know what they will say.

[@yowlowfortes9291]

hahaha this guy is fun to watch rather than the other coin youtuber and he was selling a legit mystery loot box!!! god bless to you bruh

[@pncfloyd86]

Nice group of coins, thanks for sharing!

[@NCFXSTI]

I was expecting an ERP lol , sorry about all the Details coins you got back, that hurt my feelers to watch. You did end up with some nicely graded coins though, congrats!

[@SilverSeeker]

Thanks NCF, and the ERP will be here soon!

[@fitgamergirl]

Looked forward to this!

[@zackjones8556]

These are so fun to watch

[@patrickm8877]

This is why I collect modern coins and bullion and not older coins.

[@agprice6607]

awesome vid except the end result on some of those......if that grade on the buff makes you that upset....well, you do have my address......lol thankyou very much for sharing this unboxing ...these are great. but a couple of those.....holy smithereens...SALUTE.

[@SilverSeeker]

LOL thanks AG you rock. :)

[@jokined]

Where do you purchase your coins if you don't mind me asking! Do you buy your raw coins at coin shows? Thanks for your answer and your very informative videos!

[@kyo19792001]

Great video thanks for sharing Just one suggestion on the video should put prices on coins when you revealed then..thanks

[@SilverSeeker]

Thanks for the feedback! This video wasn't really about prices and values, it was about the coins themselves. But I may do that in future videos, so I appreciate the idea!

[@DCBingo]

The last four were beautiful coins.

[@saltwatersaddletramp7229]

You are right that some of those coins could have been cleaned a hundred years ago. That was what people did with old coins back then, it was acceptable. I have also been disappointed sending some older US coins to NGC.

[@ChaplainDaveSparks]

Do the people who conserve/restore the coins also grade them? If not, do the graders know that fact? It would almost seem like a conflict of interest to clean a coin then grade it as *NOT* cleaned. That would almost be fraud on any future buyers of the coin.

[@NickelNationCoinsMore]

I'd be a little ticked getting them restored and well you know😥, why would someone whizz on a coin? And how did they know😂

[@samgardner4667]

You can tell under a microscope. The scratch marks are easily visible in the soft silver planchets

[@NickelNationCoinsMore]

Not the point, the buffalo wasn't cleaned before he sent it. It was their so called restoration service that made it a cleaned coin.

[@samgardner4667]

MrDirty Nickels so, they shouldn’t label it honestly?

[@NickelNationCoinsMore]

@@samgardner4667 not the point, again he paid to get it restored, the company which is owned by the grading service to be RESTORED and when they do that, it isn't supposed to look cleaned. He paid for a service that basically made his coins less valuable. If he didn't get them RESTORED especially the buffalo nickel. Then they wouldn't have come back "cleaned"

[@samgardner4667]

MrDirty Nickels Id love to know the distinction from the NCS between restored and cleaned, then. Like, how is one different from the other and when did it change. I agree with you that it’s shitty that his nickel wasn’t cleaned and then they slapped a cleaned grade on it afterwards and that’s something I’d love to take up with a person at the NGC/NCS

[@Zaph0d]

im very surprised at the grade you scored on the 1805 LC, didnt look nearly that to me, but im not NGC, well done !

[@richardoldguy7673]

please do a video on how you market & sell 'details' coins !! thanks !!

[@Kcconnor]

I don’t understand how NCS can, supposedly, RESTORE COINS to their os and then call them cleaned, scratched and what ever they can call them, give them a generic grade and say that they are restored

[@sob1994]

Not sure Id use the conservation, that 1834 bust quarter looked better before they did whatever to it.

[@whatdidyoudotoday2061]

I was hoping this was going to be for the 2019 reverse proof but still a good video.did you get my email by chance for the gaw the other night?

[@SilverSeeker]

I did my friend you're good to go! I'm going to try and ship today after I did out of this snow. :)

[@KYHStacking]

Great video!

[@rmwhitver]

Great video but sucks about the questionable grades. What do you plan to do with the ones in the bad stack?

[@SilverSeeker]

I don't know yet... a may break a couple out but a few of them I'd still rather have in a authenticated holder. It's something to think about.

[@meteoman7958]

The 1834 quarter looked better before conservation. Definitely looked cleaned after cleaning. I would be upset.

[@CanesFan65]

Several thoughts after watching this video: 1. These are very old coins. Therefore - anyone with any common sense should reasonably expect that most coins which are that old at some point have likely been cleaned. Most old coins - if gotten from another person - have already been "checked" for their value unless it is a rare circumstance. If they are not in a slab - there is most likely a reason they are not slabbed. And I would bet that reason is - someone already knew they were of little value and did not have them graded OR - The DID have them graded - found out that they had been "Cleaned" and broke them out of the slab to sell to an unsuspecting amateur. If you find and old coin that is not slabbed and graded and you send it in to have it graded and it receives a grade, consider it a BONUS! It's a gamble for sure. If you send in 20 coins and half receive a grade - then I would think you would certainly consider that a WIN. Sure there are probably some coins out there in hiding that have yet to surface but when they are found - the person finding them will likely know what they found - and even if they don't - there's a chance that those coins were "cleaned" a LONG LONG time ago by some kid who wanted to "shine" his coins. 2. This is exactly why i hate when people take coins OUT of slabs once they are in a slab. Selling a known "Cleaned" or UN-gradable coin to someone else by taking it out of the slab is dishonest at best. While the PCGS and NGC are NOT the "end-all" "be-all" authorities - They are the TOP TWO most reputable grading companies so "Their Opinion Matters"! Why allow someone to buy a coin knowing they will likely try to send it in to be graded if you already know IT WILL NOT GRADE because it was cleaned? These companies know all the tricks people take to try to circumvent their grading process with a coin that they know has been previously identified as "cleaned". It's not rocket science. It just amazes me when people seem to get upset when these companies say that a coin was "cleaned" or "Whizzed". People should EXPECT that these coins were probably graded previously and broken back out of the slab by some jerk trying to take advantage of a novice collector. Then if the coin is graded - BE HAPPY - as you were when many of your coins received pretty decent grades!!! Just my opinion.

[@SilverSeeker]

Thanks for the comment bud. If you noticed I wasnt upset on ones I agreed with only ones I didnt. The 1918-D being the prime example. But yes I'm aware older coins arent always perfect. :)

[@CaptJohnWis]

You can never UNCLEAN a coin! The 1908-S looked cleaned the first time you showed it and still looks cleaned after NCS. I totally agree with NGC calling them cleaned! After all THEY cleaned them!

[@SilverSeeker]

Except I've seen tons of coins go to NCS and come back just fine after they "restored" them

[@papagiorgio5894]

I think you got screwed with that restoration process. they should call out a grade before and after the "restoring" process and shouldn't call out "cleaned" if they are doing it. Thanks for sharing as I don't plan on using them now.

[@myprogression405]

How much do they charge. How do they charge?

[@aantunez5391]

That seems like a bait and switch by NCS- charge you to "restore" coin, then label it cleaned. You could have just cleaned it yourself and got that designation. Thanks for posting - I learned a lot - namely never use NCS!

[@slylyunleashed8419]

Awesome unboxing man bummer on the restored coins but love the videos 🖒

[@SilverSeeker]

Thanks Slyly!

[@99baggett]

So I’m confused. Was the “cleaned” designation due to prior cleaning or NCS restoration? If it’s the latter, I’ll be very hesitant to use NCS.

[@vccoinsnevada]

Still not bad Seeker👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Very cool video 💥💥💥💥

[@SilverSeeker]

Thank you VCC! You rock my friend!

[@danscollectables5997]

I’m always amazed with some of the claims they make! How exactly do they know ! Interesting! Thanks!

[@SilverSeeker]

Years of experience and training I would imagine. Thanks for watching!

[@danscollectables5997]

Silver Seeker I wouldn’t hope so, but sometimes I just don’t know.

[@ridgerunner7980]

grading companies might as well be up on a soap box selling snake oil.

[@shepirate4651]

Started off strong for suure but you still have some stunning pieces there. With the nickel do you think it had maybe been cleaned before the restoration?

[@tom_morgandealer_pgh1648]

you got robbed on those 3 cent peices those were great shape

[@Goat99]

I am fairly new to the whole coin grading and slabbing game. I have questions. What do you do with graded “problem” such as CLEANED etc. ??? Is there any kind of collector’s market for those things? Do people actually want them or is it a total kiss of death for those kinds of slabbed coins? Just trying to learn. Please don’t flame me. Great video. Have a great day. Happy Holidays. Thank you.

[@montecristo8174]

First off, great video! This is the first time I’ve watched one of these and it was great. I was very interested in this particular video because of the four coins sent to NCS. I have about 25 coins that I would like to be “professionally” restored so the outcome here was what I was looking for. Here’s my question: NCS states that they will restore a coin to its “original” condition, yes? If that’s the cat, then someone please explain to me how the grading department can label the coins cleaned? “Original condition” would be anything BUT cleaned. They didn’t leave the MINT in cleaned condition so how can they be labeled clean if they were professionally restored? THAT is what bothers me about NGC’s graders. If NCS restores a coin to original condition, then it should not be labeled clean by the grading department. It should only have a grade and nothing else. I still want my 25 coins restored and graded, but after watching this video, I must say I’m torn as to what to do,🤷‍♂️. Again however, great video. I’ve just subscribed and look forward to seeing what else you’re going to show us. Thanks!

[@johnhanaly2943]

The graders should do away with having problems with coins and have the courage to simply grade coins lower if they aren't appealing to the grader.

[@thepizzaguy6858]

The 1835 large cent was cleaned for sho I could tell and I'm blind LOL. What is whizzed?

[@wisconsincrhunter5614]

I think its total BS they "conserve" a coin and then label it cleaned. That's them most likely screwing up the conservation of the coin. ABSOLUTE GARBAGE BRO!!!! I'm livid about it and cannot imagine what you're feeling about that FREAKING OUTRAGE!!! Arg seeker, I'm sorry that happened to you.

[@wyattmontgomery2968]

Feel bad for the “restoration”

[@spartanumismatics8165]

I unfortunately have to agree with some of those cleaned designations. Especially on the large cents.

[@SilverSeeker]

Fair enough my friend thanks

[@phillium8918]

What does Whizzed mean?

[@time4grace]

Looking at all your coins; mine seem too be too inferior.

[@bigbubba4001]

Sounds like the grading service is In it for the cost of the grading and not doing their jobs. I've seen many videos like this in the last few days. Just about every coin was cleaned or so ngc says.. i have a very large collection and will not be sending them to ngc at all.

[@SilverSeeker]

Great point

[@bigbubba4001]

@@SilverSeeker I came into what I'd call a very nice size collection of coins. I have no clue what I'm doing. Trying to learn the basics before I get too over whelmed with it all and take all the coins and literally stacked them up all the way in the back of our walk in closet and forget they are there. But then I'd have to box them up and move them all in there and bring in the boxes from storage room in garage and I'm just too lazy for that

[@martinneps9387]

Can you please explain to me how much it cost to do a coin and where do I send it please comment back and specify everything for me I have my father's coins Where he passed away and he collected a sense he was younger please comment back thank you so very much and please be safe and I hope all your coins are worth a lot of money

[@robertgrah9287]

Congratulations I'm not sure what whizzing is other than what we did is kid in the snow so if you could explain that I'd appreciate it and congratulations on those coins but do you think NGC put clean down there because they did clean them

[@PapaKryptoss]

Bwahaha. Dat is funny

[@SilverSeeker]

I'll do a video about it sometime but essentially its using a wire brush at high speeds to attempt to procude luster.

[@billdinker9837]

This is why you don’t buy coins that aren’t slabbed from less than reputable dealers. Sure you might hit a home run once in a blue moon, but these are the results you’re more likely to get.

[@SilverSeeker]

You're likely to get results like this regardless in my experience. I've been through professional coin grading classes before and have looked at coins that came back cleaned super puzzled before. But you're right it's way less likely when coming from someone that knows what the heck they're doing. Glad to have ya on the channel my friend!

[@ridgerunner7980]

right .. if your obsessed with grades buy them already graded so you know what your getting up front...if their going to mark it cleaned\details then i don't see the point of having it in a slab....maybe they need to justify keeping your money.

[@mrhick01]

Am I understanding correctly, that even if you "restore" a coin through the NCS, it would be flagged by orgs like the NGC as "cleaned" (and taking a significant fractional hit in value)? If a "restoration" can't maximize the value of your coin...why bother?

[@johnhanaly2943]

Many coins are clearly detail graded inaccurately by these grading services. It proves one thing. They should be charging far less money for their services than they are.

[@grantsmittkamp1757]

20:52 They butchered that 1834 25C. Looks way worse than before and they didn’t help it at all

[@honeyfamily1308]

What does it mean by whizzed?

[@bobkirk3569]

? me too!

[@TheFishingNomad]

@@bobkirk3569 polished with a high speed wire brush

[@jasonhastings5538]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Playing that grading game!!!!!!

[@johnhanaly2943]

Everybodty is giving the grading companies far too much credit. Just because they're negativists doesn't mean they're the experts they claim. They make far too many mistakes to be authorities.

[@soccershoes3231]

Why couldn't u have put values for each coin. Would make the vid WAY better

[@proslice56]

And that right there is why I'm scared to send in my 1881 s morgan.

[@jadonnoble5621]

I would not send in an 1881 s unless you think it will grade ms 66 or higher. Either that or if it’s a deep mirror proof like coin. That is one of the most common Morgan’s to find in high grades.

[@samgardner4667]

Not a coin worth sending in, really. Like the person above says, unless you think it’s an MS-65 or MS-66 or is anykind of a DMPL or PL coin, save the $45 grading fee. You can find those for about $50-$60 frequently and slabbing it won’t make it anymore valuable

[@SilverSeeker]

LOL you rock proslice! :)

[@jameswawrzaszek809]

Ok, so does this mean if you send a coin for "restoration" it can't come back with a grade, or do you think you just got unlucky with 4 out of 4 problem coins?

[@SilverSeeker]

I know of coins that came back from restoration with grades so I guess I'm just unlucky

[@oSTYNCLSYo]

so using ncs isn't a good idea.