Simmons Titan 50 cymbal upgrades, iPad App, Custom Kits

In this video I show you what cymbals I used to upgrade my Titan 50, show how to use the iPad app, and show you some of my own custom kits. Are you a drummer who has a cool e-drum setup you'd like to share? Are you making experimental music using e-drums or hybrid drums? Are you a sample pad drummer? I want to hear from you! Head over to the www.alternativedrummer.com and use the "general contact and submissions" form on the right to submit your content to be published on Alternative Drummer!
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0:00 intro
0:37 cymbal upgrades
3:19 new iPad app
8:14 my custom kits
13:47 outro

[@demonicsweaters]

Are you a drummer who has a cool e-drum setup you'd like to share? Are you making experimental music using e-drums or hybrid drums? Are you a sample pad drummer? I want to hear from you! Head over to the www.alternativedrummer.com and use the "general contact and submissions" form on the right to submit your content to be published on Alternative Drummer!

[@SmiggyG]

There's finally an Android app available for those interested. 👍

[@Lumberjack-drummer]

Thats a pretty advanced module for a small kit, I dig it..

[@razhua]

funny how you and 65 drums are both Justines and I really enjoy both of your channels

[@demonicsweaters]

yep, he's a good guy!

[@USAJ31]

I am too but no one knows me. LOL

[@kenburke0351]

I've got the same kit. I've had it less than 1 year and I've killed 2 kick pads. I took one apart and found a wire that is soldered to what looks like some kind of pressure pad had broken where it is soldered. I soldered myself and so far so good.

[@paulcunningham5959]

I own a Titan 50 and bought the expansion pack a few months after I got it last summer. I really enjoy playing it. There is a local drum shop selling a barely used Titan 20 kit (missing the frame) for $80. I'm thinking I could take the dual zone 8" Tom to replace one of the single zone Toms on my Titan 50 and using splitters add two of the 10" cymbals from the Titan 20. The main issue I see is the Titan 20 has a hexagon frame instead of rectangular tubing on Titan 50 frame so I'm guessing I can't just slide the cymbals onto my Titan 50. I even thought if I get a headphone amp and mixer like you mentioned before that I might even be able to use the Titan 20 module on the side at the same time as using Titan 50 module. Then I could use one of the Titan packs to get more sounds and keep the ones from the Titan 20. I see just a 10" cymbal for the Titan 50 is $50 and the expansion pack is $80 so the $80 for the all the components of the Titan 20 seems like a good deal. Thoughts? Or would I better off just buying a Titan 70 module for $299 to replace my Titan 50 module?

[@demonicsweaters]

Rather than go through all of that, I’d either keep what you have, or sell it and save up a bit more to get a Roland TD-07kvx or TD-17kvx.

[@ZacharyMBower]

Are you able to add another cymbal if you use a splitter? It would make it where you just don’t have a rim shot? I know the Alesis Nitro Mesh has this option.

[@razhua]

I've been using ez drummer and with the recently updated ez drummer 3, hooking up an Ed is more enticing. I wish I could a compact but quality drum kit as space is limited

[@ShisnoJoe]

Does hooking it up via USB allow for dual/triple zone compatibility?

[@Mdogbrown]

Sick! I’m glad I picked this up for my son for Christmas. He’s gonna freak out. Question: So the kits that show up on the app, are they the kits that are already on the module?

[@demonicsweaters]

Yes, the app is just an easier way to edit what is on the module.

[@rongriguts3660]

Hey Justin - thanks for the review! Question - what size rug do you think would fit this entire setup including the drum throne?

[@demonicsweaters]

this should be good amzn.to/3gK1IXU

[@randybarber2442]

My titan 50 symbols sound very low and can hardly hear the high hat when I hit the pedal. Can I raise the volume of the symbols themselves in the module? The snare and toms so great, just the lack of sound coming from all the symbols. I have it hooked up to the Simmons drym amp.

[@djritm3215]

Hey thanks for this video, was wondering if lemon would work for this simmons kit

[@demonicsweaters]

It should

[@myd3b124]

I’m having trouble activating the choke on the stock left crash cymbal. I’m using the correct model number for it (with C).

[@demonicsweaters]

There’s really nothing to activate. It should just work. Contact Simmons support.

[@SIRROBERTTHEKEYTARMINATOR]

Love that hybrid crash! Is that available now? Just discovered your page and the Titan

[@demonicsweaters]

Hybrid crash?

[@MrBeen992]

Can you tell me if the Crash 4 and Tom 4 inputs are stereo ? I have a mono cable with a diy trigger that doesnt work with the Titan 50.

[@demonicsweaters]

yes, they all use TRS cables

[@Ddronron1]

With all the buttons and parameters that the titan drum module offers, I have not been able to do a simple adjustment, namely, increasing the volume of the high hat symbol. Any advice on this issue?

[@shanefages]

It’s under mix fx tab in app

[@ExoticForza]

I have a question, does the Lemon LE-HHC12 two piece electronic hi-hat cymbal work with the simmons titan 50?

[@demonicsweaters]

I never tested that. Possibly?

[@lemonworm]

The one issue with this kit in terms of moddability seems to be the rectangular rack. Almost all other E drum cymbal arms are designed for a cylindrical one, and simmons doesn't sell the rack clips/arms on their own so, I dont really see how I could add other cymbals without buying the $80 simmons expansion pack anyway for the clips alone. Do you have any insight on how I could get around that?

[@fall2ashes528]

If you have access to one, you could very easily 3d print the square style bracket

[@stupidedgykid9563]

Just try really really hard and hope nothing breaks

[@sergioandresrodriguezcor-nf6mk]

How did you put you hi hat like that… I’m setting my kit but I don’t know how to get the best position for the HH

[@demonicsweaters]

I didn't do anything special, I just put it where it normally goes.

[@chrisgirolamo8865]

can you upload your own sounds, in .wav format, like snare, kick, etc?

[@demonicsweaters]

No you can’t

[@sadcr1750]

I know ive been laying comments out through different videos of yours today so sorry if im spamming you’re notifications 😅 but i was just wondering, cant you play along to your own select music through the app? If not, its not a big deal. i have no issue hooking an extra cord up to an external device, but I thought that was a feature in the app? Also, if i get the sd600 can i connect it to this new version the app? If not then i might revert back to getting the titan 50 because all i see are horrible reviews for the previous app that was out

[@demonicsweaters]

no, the new app currently doesn't have a playalong feature. The old app is fine. The bad reviews are mostly due to idiots not even knowing what it is. The new app is only Titans.

[@sadcr1750]

@@demonicsweaters sounds good I appreciate it man. You’re vids have been extremely helpful. Binged a load of them the past few weeks

[@Xcorgi]

Does this set come with the line out cables for the module to go into the amp or PA? Or do you have to buy them separately? And if you do, what do you buy?

[@demonicsweaters]

It doesn't come with the cables, but you just need standard 1/4" cables to connect like amzn.to/3NVLC9W

[@Lwimmermastermetalart]

I’m pretty new to this yet. I have the SD1250 but haven’t had a lot of time to dial it in yet. Your videos are great. Do you already have or could you make one that explains all the features of the app and just what they do. There are just so many things you can do to tune in your kit. So maybe a video like Simmons tuning for Dummies 101 😂 Explain each function, like pitch, velocity, pan etc. Thanx man.👍🏼

[@xXZANDER1994Xx]

Seems nit picky, but if I heard right, you cannot plug a dual-zone cymbal into this? So if I want to strike the bell on the ride, I have to switch to a whole other cymbal? Regardless, I think I’ll pick this up over Black Friday this weekend. I’ve been recording music for 15 years now and I’m sick of paying drummers for sessions. This seems like a good kit to learn on that won’t limit me for a long time.

[@demonicsweaters]

Yes it's single zone cymbals. This is the case on the SD600, Alesis Nitro, Surge, Command as well.

[@Neightlive]

If you just get the full Titan pack with the extra floor tom and symbol you can assign the other symbol to the ride bell. This isn't really ideal for playing but if you're recording something it should be fine

[@sadcr1750]

@@Neightlive can i just assign the bell to one of my dual zone toms on the rim? (Planning on getting the simmons sd600)

[@desertwill4521]

@@sadcr1750 This is what I'm wondering. I just purchased a Titan 50 and a SD1200 2 zone cymbal to get the ride bell and am going to try to plug one zone into the cymbal input and the other to the tom input. I know very little about these kits so someone with more experience might indicate that this won't work, but at the very least, I have another cymbal for the bell.

[@IansDrumsandBass]

Send me your stuff and I'll put drums to it - no charge.

[@MrBeen992]

Would you say the Titan 50 is sturdier than the Nitro Mesh ? The plastic clamps of the Titan 50 dont look so strong.

[@demonicsweaters]

I would say they're about the same, both are pretty lightweight racks, but I never had an issue with either of them. The Titan goes a little higher though.

[@sergioandresrodriguezcor-nf6mk]

Could the titan 50 work with a 3 zone Lemmon cymbal?

[@demonicsweaters]

yes, but only 1 zone will work

[@justinsnow3979]

I’m a beginner drummer and debating between titan 70 or used td07kvx? What are your thoughts between the 2?

[@demonicsweaters]

Always Roland over… well, just about anything.

[@demonicsweaters]

It’s just no comparison. The Roland feels better, sounds better, will last longer, functions better, and will hold its value. If I were going to buy a Simmons, I’d still go with the SD1250, but I’ll still take a td07 over it as well.

[@justinsnow3979]

Thank you for the reply!

[@Xcorgi]

Is the app only for the iPad or can you also use it on the iPhone?

[@demonicsweaters]

iPhone too, just no android

[@stupidedgykid9563]

Do you need the app to access those settings or can you do all of that stuff on the module if you hate yourself

[@demonicsweaters]

Everything can be accessed on the module.

[@stupidedgykid9563]

@@demonicsweaters awesome looks like I'm to suffer for a while

[@demonicsweaters]

@@stupidedgykid9563 it's actually pretty easy to edit on the module

[@stupidedgykid9563]

@@demonicsweaters do you think the Simmons is better compared to the donner e drums you reviewed about a year ago? I'm just trying to weigh my options before the black Friday sales are over lol

[@demonicsweaters]

@@stupidedgykid9563 Yes, without a doubt Simmons is better. The Donner e-drums have a pretty bad module I made a detailed vid about the best kits under $500 kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5LIi6SAo7d0f68

[@Kipitpi5000]

Alesis nitro mesh or Titan 50 ?

[@demonicsweaters]

They both have their strengths, I lean towards the Titan 50, but occasionally the nitro has a big sale for the expanded version

[@GLXGAMES]

Can I connect to GGD?

[@demonicsweaters]

What is GGD?

[@razhua]

titan 50 or sd 600?

[@demonicsweaters]

right now, the SD600 is an insane deal for the expanded version. I'm even considering getting one, haha www.musiciansfriend.com/drums-percussion/simmons-sd600-expanded-electronic-drum-kit-with-mesh-pads-and-bluetooth/l75734000000000?rNtt=sd%20600&index=3