Simon Lizotte Hosts, Matty-O's Controversial Video, PDGA Listens, Top 5 Backhands | EP 43

Uli is out enjoying his honeymoon so we got a Tour Life listener favorite, Simon Lizotte to come co-host the show.
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Chapters:
3:24 Show Preview
10:00 Brodie's Week Recap
21:46 Matty O’s Announcement Video
30:15 Player Movement Rumors
33:18 Maple Hill #1 Course
37:48 Who Should Be On The Cover
48:58 PDGA Announces A-Tiers, National Amateur Disc Golf Tour, and Disc Golf Masters Tour schedule
1:00:27 Top 5 Backhands
1:10:35 JJ & TJ Watt Disc Golf Fans
1:12:31 Best New PDGA Rule
1:16:31 Lonestar continues to be Lonestar
1:24:53 Uli vs. Paul McBeth
1:53:07 Listener questions
#tourlife #discgolf #discraft #brodiesmith #paululibarri #terrymiller

[@bradwurst8141]

It's so funny when Simon says, "I dont know if I'm phrasing this properly" then drops the most lucid, coherent commentary of all time lol

[@HaikesXO]

Simon has come a long way with his communication. Hes the most calm, cool and collected I’ve ever seen him.

[@fbodyguy46]

Being set financially for the rest of his life will do that to a person

[@franksnyder363]

But he's a very introverted person (self proclaimed) and I entirely agree with your point. I feel the same way for Ezra. He took a challenging speech pattern and has made it into a signature sound. This is such a small sport, you can see the growth.

[@kingdavey90]

@@franksnyder363 Good points. Two of my favorites :)

[@willoughbytaylor17]

Older + a kid helps mature a person.

[@claudbutton8068]

1. I love Simon being there, his takes are really informative. 2. I do not think the Matty O announcement was a take on any of the political scenes currently. 4 more years has always been around, and I loved it. We need more announcement videos like this.

[@ColeRogersDG]

Get Simon on here as much as possible please! Love his differing opinions and attitude

[@chrispinnick3816]

Simon Lizotte first guy on the internet to actually have his mind changed

[@michaelwhitlock6301]

They did the Conrad announcement with the “4 more years” chant too because like every single political candidate gets that chant - No one reacted this way. This is just because Westside COMMITTED to the joke and made a good production - people just want to dump on things that have the spotlight. My vote: well done Westside!

[@lyndajones1133]

yea westside was like a sketch comedy thing. honestly dope.

[@marvelfandom2000]

“McBeth hasn’t won Worlds in what 2-3 years” Brodie, McBeth won last year 😂 and I think he would be the best option on the cover of any DGPT video game!

[@Jase-ul5yi]

Yep. That's what I wanted to say. This year was Isaac, last year Mcbeth, and year before that was James

[@Jase-ul5yi]

Plus, why do we need just one player on the cover? Put Kristin, Paul and Simon on there. Maybe even Philo to appeal to older folks and black folks. Lol

[@nesking7029]

I like how Simon listened and thought about his stance. Great job on this podcast!

[@JarrettWBass]

Congratulations Simon! He is the Peoples Champ!

[@Steventhrowsbirds]

Ricky all day 🎉😂

[@Footfaultguy]

Umm… excuse me, everyone knows Melton is the people’s champ!

[@JarrettWBass]

@@Footfaultguy nope

[@JarrettWBass]

@comegetsomeeatingguts8203 no he took Dino legs

[@Rideout5]

I’m a numbers guy. I’m all about the chi squared analysis. I was all in favor of the ratings system and it being great. On Simons side. Until Brodie. That was an excellent example and made me do a complete 180 on the subject. Great show guys

[@FoundationPodcasts]

Welcome to the dark side

[@michaelrobbins8728]

we have a local pro in our area that is rated 1020's. He routinely averages 1040's playing local c tiers and league rounds.... It is HIGHLY dependent on local region

[@DarttheLegend]

I don’t think they intended the video to be anything political. “4 more years” has been said by people who support every incumbent in the history of presidential elections, it’s not a recent thing.

[@shamanschlong]

it's not supposed to be political but the slogan is directly political ?

[@bsmithhammer]

Agreed. People are taking it way too seriously and making mountains out of molehills. Lighten up - it's just disc golf.

[@DarttheLegend]

@@shamanschlong just election-themed, that doesn’t make it “political” it is not making any sort of political statement for or against any party or candidate.

[@shamanschlong]

@@DarttheLegend that makes no sense and your comment is a contradiction.

[@DarttheLegend]

@@shamanschlong you must not understand words then, sorry, can’t help you. A political statement must be in support or opposition to something, that’s just how it is. If I say “the office of the President exists” that is not a political statement.

[@discgolfd]

I love how Simon always keeps it real.

[@zac_breckenridge]

I think context is important as well. Dynamic Discs (a part of Trilogy and their team members are featured in the video) has the theme for all of their discs being legal terms: Truth, Warden, Enforcer, Felon, Judge, etc. Definitely political notions, but that is THEIR branding.

[@Rew123]

And it's super problematic. Imagine a company releasing two discs in fall 2020 - the Vigilante and the Thug. The Vigilante: neutral 15-speed distance driver, Supreme plastic only, and only in white for some reason. The Thug: overstable putt & approach, base plastic only, black only. Distasteful.

[@nicolaiberg6579]

This was a GREAT episode!

[@djhollowman9567]

Been waiting for someone to produce a super high quality game for disc golf, and either Simon or Paul would be perfect. Paul would be to disc golf what Tiger Woods is to normie golf. But Simon is to Disc Golf what Shaun White is to Snowboarding.

[@TheGreatestJuJu]

Bradley Williams Back Hand smooth like butter

[@the_undersea_astronauts]

yesss. Tiger Words PDGA 2003 was also the game me and my dad would play. loved that!

[@xxxthundercatsxxx]

The Matty O commercial lays it on pretty thick with the political references. With the current hostage situation, its weird that they choose to reveal the player that way. They could have done literally anything else. Although Dynamic Discs does have the Criminal, Felon, etc. discs haha. Definitely get "Choose freedom not fear" or "American flag with blue stripe vibes" from their whole operation. I do love me some Matty O, so very happy he is getting paid!!

[@dunk8040]

Completely agree with Simon, Niklas Anttila has one of the prettiest backhands and so consistent and smooth with his run up and form. One of my very favorite disc golfers to watch throw off the tee. My five are Calvin, Simon, Niklas, AB and Eagle. Lots of honorable mentions that I’m not gonna mention.

[@mitchfuchs6024]

100% agree with Brodies opinion on changing how the ratings should be. Without a doubt makes the most sense 🤙🏻

[@larryshort5414]

There are a lot of disc golfers that don't play tournaments because of the sandbagging.

[@keisi1574]

@@larryshort5414 The local club in my area has a player who's sandbagged hundreds of times at the local minis and in tournaments. He's done it for 15 years. He's on the board of the local club and helps run the minis n tournaments. It's pretty much stealing from new players/beginners. It's a crappy club.

[@birdinflight3861]

McBeth won worlds last year lol

[@beetbmable]

Love the takes on Tour Life! This makes disc golf interesting. We need honest and differing opinions to drive the sport forward.

[@mikenestelroad4953]

Normally people look for the good in everything, if you look for crap u find crap, always look for the good in people & u will find it. Love the video, sorry for people who can't see it in a good light. Go, go Matty O!

[@techranger8418]

I love Uli, but this was the best one yet. Simon is such a great person to chat with. He should be part of the show full time or more often.

[@bridgerwilliamson721]

The fact that Paul McBeth and Ricky weren’t even mentioned in the backhand form conversation is WILD.

[@bakerby]

The Matty O re-signing video is not a hostage situation. It’s a star-chamber scenario, where he is not given due process to decide his fate. Still controversial, but not about hostage taking.

[@joshking4495]

I’m literally playing Disc Golf Valley as I watch/listen to you guys talk about a disc golf game! Lol

[@aaronbowers3660]

Segment idea: 5 or 10 things each of you loves about disc golf. I love the show, but a lot of times it's the "what's wrong with disc golf" podcast. Brodie and Uli are such hard workers, making it happen in a bunch of ways within the sport, cool to see.

[@natew.6781]

Simon needs his own podcast with someone who can lead it like Brodie. I love Uli with Brodie, but I'd love to see Simon on a weekly podcast with another player.

[@richardmyers5491]

Brodie, I love the Pod cast...you guys are killing it. I want to say a word on the Matty-O's 4 year deal, which I am extremely happy for him. I strongly believe the video did him no favors. In this day and age with everyone so polarized in one of two directions its best to stay clear of even the perception of being political. "4 more years", it doesn't take rocket science to take that the wrong way, with a big election coming up. The court room with a hood over his head, with a crazy judge...at a time where we have a former President being attacked in 4-5 different cases, many would say unjustly. I work in Contacts for the DoD. I'm not allowed to do anything that would even give a hint of bias or give a perception of Bias in who gets awarded a Contract. I believe the same thing goes in this case. It wasn't a good idea to touch or even give a perception of being Bias one way or another. Because it can't help, only damage, his Brand...Very Bad Idea. Just my two cents. - Rick

[@lynch42o]

FJB

[@DnBGolf]

The squinting and hand up against the light was really great

[@Funtimeflippin]

43:48 Simon is the best story teller. This is why he is this the best on social.

[@JacobPorterLadder]

Maple Hill is also Paul McBeth's favorite course, which doesn't hurt. He says it all the time. It's still a lot of pros favorites

[@chadbizeau5997]

Not Goose's. Lol!

[@UltimateBid]

Don't put words in his mouth!

[@jeffishero3419]

"You're starting to see these guys coming into the picture, like Calvin" What?! Lol

[@scottforster8361]

Worked for cutco during college over a few summers and their knives are legit AF. The hiring practices and business structure are wild but everyone I sold to 20 years ago still uses and loves their product. Not sure lone star will pass the test of time *edit to add. The “starter set” you buy in order to do work appointments comes in around 70% off I believe. The criticism of “you have to pay to get the job” is totally valid- but the discount is pretty large and the products are good quality

[@FoundationPodcasts]

Ok thanks for the info. I knew I wasn't 100%, but was close

[@lynch42o]

Still use ours from 20 years ago.

[@gromba]

Eagle is doing things with the backhand that no one else is doing, not even AB.

[@nebellivnov1656]

paul mcbeth. it s easy he s the tiger of disc golf. close second is klimo. ...there s not a discussion, simon is right 100

[@nebellivnov1656]

*tatar putting on the cover 😊

[@larryshort5414]

I know when I want information from someone that has their ear to the ground and their finger on the pulse of world politics I always consult a disc golfer😅😂

[@yolobutton2451]

Simon should design one course that all 18 holes has a hidden Simon line 😎

[@sportsmonster66]

This is the best disc golf podcast and it’s not close. Keep up the good work as always

[@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf]

Thank you Simon for helping out! 👏. Hope to see you more on Tourlife in the future! Regarding the Matt O video. Initial reaction was mostly humorous, a little cringe. But in the back of my mind, I just felt the first part of the video felt like it could have been part of a political ad. If a non disc golfer were to watch it, I bet they would think it is a political driven video. Regardless, I had fun watching it and so stoked for Matty O! I do agree he needed to be allowed to be Matty O and not scripted.

[@DnBGolf]

I can't believe that's even controversial. That promotion was delightful and hilarious

[@lynch42o]

Lots of liberal fools in disc golf…

[@BROWNSTONEBEAR-1983]

Let's gooo Rick!!!!

[@Steventhrowsbirds]

Portland BrOpen 💪🏻💪🏻

[@BROWNSTONEBEAR-1983]

@@Steventhrowsbirds damn str8 brother 🤝

[@mickiesworkshop3490]

Bruh that matty o video had me dying😂

[@capecarver]

Anyone finding Matty-O's announcement offensive is probably an uber-sensitve Reddit type. Not someone you'd ever want to throw a round with.

[@jvladcliff4083]

Simon and Kristen on the cover of a game

[@Boucher702]

cross that off the bucket list

[@kellerthedog]

Matty O video was hype

[@C.A.D.]

Simon has a child and becomes a winner. Now he's having a second. Watch out majors

[@Holycow723]

I hope so! He needs a big win!

[@TheGreatestJuJu]

Brodie: Ban steroids Ezra: Bro?!

[@hillsdalemc]

Player of the year point: If you asked players which season would be tougher to accomplish, Isaac’s season or Calvin’s, I bet most pros would say Calvin’s. If winning 20 million was on the line and they had to replicate one of those seasons next year but they had to pick which one in advance they were gunning for, they would pick Isaac’s.

[@jdk0777]

Brodie, spot on with the rating system. There's definitely a better way, and your conversation ignited something within me to figure it out. Drug testing...strongly oppose. PED's tend to be quite obvious, and THC/alcohol are clearly not obvious. Players can be regulated by their behavior. It'd also seem a bit degrading to the THC sponsors you guys get.

[@marcoshuerta8661]

It's just like comedians being torn down for making jokes doing their job. It's a spoof, it's not anything bad it's not. It was made to grab people's attention it did that. Just let it be what it is, people need to stop overthinking things and taking stuff so serious and personal.

[@ShawnSchulz]

Controversial? WTF is wrong with people? When I saw the title, I was scratching my head.

[@Tbudde34]

I'd love to see the rating system change up to be closer to the PGA system

[@aftertheburial420]

When I think of disc golf, I don't think of politics. I just appreciated the production of the announcement. it was different interesting and entertaining. I got a little addicted to the playstation move disc golf game.

[@DiscGolfDemastus]

LSD does give free gear, early access and other benefits on top of a discount. You also get a big initial discount to help build your bag. It’s almost exactly what they described as a “sponsorship”. It’s more of an ambassadorship.

[@philipsaul]

Loved hearing Simon stand up to you guys with his opinions lol. Why are you guys so against having multiple statistics and ranking systems?

[@MikeRayburne]

the Matty O video is awesome and no one should look at it politically ... but buttercups will be buttercups...

[@ggdg5302]

I don't know what the intentions were, and I certainly wasn't looking for anything wrong with the video, but I definitely felt weird about the political tone immediately. I don't know what that says about me, but the 4 more years chants and the hostage situation seem a liiiiitttttle tone deaf in the current climate. Idk just wanted to offer a perspective from someone who likes Matty O and thinks the production was good, but instantly was confused by the messaging.

[@scottpoynor8216]

on point with that Brodie about Lonestar

[@justinlesperance803]

I could see Gannon Buhr on there. He’s young, big on social media, a lot of people would know him, and could help grow the sport for a younger demographic that may not be playing yet.

[@MegaFlorest]

Simon is absolutely right. Ratings are great. And yeah, the 1000 plus local player might not shoot those on the road, when they aren't used to the level of competition, or not use to playing new courses. They aren't perfect, but they very acurately reflect skill level amongst the peers you usually play with.

[@MegaFlorest]

edit: hadn't gotten to Brodie's explanation. Respect. I'm now on the fence.

[@christianswanger123]

Paul mcbeths usdgc photo from 2021 would make a killer cover for a game

[@madammo7786]

Yeah but Paul is a douche. Simon is a good guy.

[@nochruto]

List wise, I'm surprised they left off Cole Redalen. He has one of the "smoothest" effortless throws.

[@scottdavis5076]

If not the #1 cleanest,smoothest form 💯💯💯💯most players would I agree,I think

[@Jase-ul5yi]

The Matty O commercial was awesome and fine. Some people get offended by anything and everything and need to be ignored. Those people are control freaks and need to realize everyone doesn't have to or want to constantly be walking on eggshells. Screw those control freaks and enjoy life

[@thurmantj00]

I've never tuned in to this...but I love how the intro music is LOFI Zelda music...

[@Footfaultguy]

Oh shit, my question got asked!

[@birdinflight3861]

I think it’s a good thing if you don’t search for something political in the video. People will find any way to be offended. We should know this by now.

[@nathanielskinner6868]

I want Mario Disc Golf Toadstool Tour. Brodies fix for ratings is what I would love to see. I want to know what I am capable of and what the people i am playing against are capable of. Not the bad amalgamation of poor rounds.

[@SPBTheHuman]

I'd break my rule of no pre-ordering if they made a big budget official DGPT game.

[@hillsdalemc]

UDisc rating idea: let people rate, not by score, but stack courses they've played in relation to one another. Playing spectacular local 9-hole course that is awesome for what it is and what do you rate it?

[@nolancampbell2527]

Brodie u should look into NADGT more cause the National tournament just happened in Austin and it happens every year. The best ams in the US come together and compete. I appreciate your response to my question about course design and it came up cause I am involved in designing one of the courses for 2024 junior worlds here in Tulsa Oklahoma

[@mattbroughton750]

Imagine Nikkos strengths&weaknesses when selecting character. Distance.../10 Accuracy.../10 Rage quit 9.5/10 😂😂 Putting violations 8/10 🤣🤣 Calvins character constantly taking metal on long throw ins. Matty Os character putting CGI lines would look like something out of Star Wars, double helix lines to the bucket 😂 Brodie would have a Huge water bottle, Ezra with the mango chews for character energy. Both characters would only begin with Nukes 😂

[@jasonphillips3817]

Really interested in the course design conference results

[@chadbizeau5997]

If there is a disc golf video game, I certainly hope EA doesn't touch it. I don't want to have to buy a $10 loot box, just to potentially get Simon as a player lol

[@MaximilianBerkmann]

There a few, the most popular seem to be Disc Golf Valley.

[@kylejohnson5842]

I played TW 2004 so much it had the Predator course, Highlands that crazy arctic course

[@tannerbolen4678]

Simon on the standard edition of DGPT 24 and Paul McBeth and Climo on the champions edition

[@mikepimpson]

Man this intro music... mixing two of my love's, disc golf and the legend of Zelda

[@nolancampbell2527]

I think Simon on the cover of the game would be the play because he used to play disc golf like it was a video game, Simon line = tiger vision

[@waltdigi3570]

Paul won in 2022 😅 Conrad before Isaac this year.

[@agetori7743]

Ah yes the popular McCaron Radars

[@psychologic1933]

01:10:48 JJ Watt Makes Blue Disc Look Like A Mini 😂😂😂

[@jayfrein2630]

100% local C tiers drag on too long. I'm an older dude who can play rounds daily, but to leave 7 am and get back at 6 pm. This is too much. I stick to the local events or I'm loving the Flex starts one round events on given week nights.

[@4dwyn]

I'm at 19 minutes in and that's really telling. I follow disc golfers to watch the drama of them competing. But it looks like the disc manufacturers treat y'all like Hasbro treats their Transformer toys. Like, buy this merch! Buy Simon's merch! Buy Brodie's! Buy Paul's! What a boon Simon has been for MVP.

[@lyndajones1133]

ill say this. paul was the one who made me think i could attack the chains from any angle. he leveled up the game more than fathomable.

[@terencekeane4411]

They should put the Corona Virus on the cover of the disc golf game

[@tonytortora448]

Why is the intro song “great fairy fountain” from Zelda by Kojo Kondo?

[@RyanDuclos]

If you have to pay for the product you are not sponsored even with a discount. You are an ambassador or endorsing the product. The better you promote the more perks you get.

[@ericsneddon5926]

To view matty os video as anything other than a fun way to celebrate woth his fans would be wrong. Whoever made that cpmment brody was reffering tp should be given absolutely 0 attention, that is bordering on pathological to equate the westside video to amything politcal, whoever that was npthing they say for the rest of their lives should ever be listened too. That is an absolute morron screaming look at me every chance they get.

[@davehart9972]

Westside!!!

[@Footfaultguy]

That Twitter dude sounds like a fun guy to hang around with 🙄

[@samuelrasmussen9458]

Brodie is 100% on the ratings

[@patnope6344]

dgpt game i feel like could either just be the worlds winner, or the player of the year as the cover art. so hopefully its changing every year and you could have the November release date right before black Friday

[@landonwebb886]

Nobody sells more discs then Simon, not even close

[@SquidNugget-lm1ip]

Simon I would love to see your course one day that is my dream to play your course with you and with all mvp/axiom/streamline disc together🤘🏻🤘🏻🇧🇪

[@clintsawyer7702]

Dude Brodie, don't visit Branson MO in the fall... They put up Christmas lights in September.

[@paulschneider2856]

Simon please tell us the name of some of your dads courses on 2k! I’d love to play them

[@frankrussillo8839]

Not true Brodie Paul mcbeth the 🐐 make the cover over anyone