i was actually in attendance at wm 17 with floor seats about 20 rows behind jr and man to this day it was the best sporting event ive ever attended live, its crazy to see all these years later its considered the greatest ppv of all time, glad I was there
@snizsniras8833 жыл бұрын
Paul Heyman made it 100 times better
@bryantjayce12733 жыл бұрын
i realize it's pretty randomly asking but do anyone know a good site to watch newly released series online?
@tinotica2 жыл бұрын
I was there too. I still think the last two matches brought the quality down with the ref sleeping in the ring during the Taker vs Triple H match and of course, the awful heel turn in Austin’s home state 🤦🏾♂️
@gremmlyn33 Жыл бұрын
you lucky lucky bastard 😭
@WRESTLEWITHANDY5 жыл бұрын
Simon Miller is the WhatCulture GOAT no if’s and’s or but’s about it
@WRESTLEWITHANDY5 жыл бұрын
Or why’s for that matter ...
@MatthewStephen985 жыл бұрын
Why? Here’s why.
@Itsnoahscott5 жыл бұрын
Why is Simon?
@2bombox5 жыл бұрын
@@Itsnoahscott lol
@WRESTLEWITHANDY5 жыл бұрын
V Squared 🤣🤣🤣👊🏻
@tastefullys5 жыл бұрын
Simon Miller in the title = Like
@AverageJane2225 жыл бұрын
WWF Wrestlemania X-7 ... God it still gives me goosebumps every damn time. And yes every year that goes by since April 1st 2001 scares the sh*t out of me!
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu5 жыл бұрын
5:56 What he says right there is very important when it comes to storytelling whether it's wrestling, comics, movies, tv or whatever media the story comes in. The Journey. That is what often what matters most. Not the destination or result. Basically it's important not to get your hopes up too high in expectation of something to deliver. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. Keep hopes high and expectations low. And that's not just for storytelling but also in living day to day life. It's essential to not only living life but loving it as well.
@DonJuanDecepticon5 жыл бұрын
The picture of Flair,Bobby Hennen,Mr.Perfect and Mean Gene, made me really sad and really happy all at the same time.
@grahamtomlinson63054 жыл бұрын
Bobby the brain hennan was the best so hilarious sucha good actor
@cryptozoomauler55054 жыл бұрын
9:54
@1CoinOnly5 жыл бұрын
I love how most Of Simon Millers fans are not toxic. Thanks for always being so fun and positive every week!
@damienlahoz5 жыл бұрын
literally shocked, surprised and happy that they arent all WWE PPVs. well done Mr. Miller, well done.
@paradox67895 жыл бұрын
Isn't *_Shock and Surprise_* basically the same thing?
@DeathGirl2345 жыл бұрын
@@paradox6789 no
@finnishyank74135 жыл бұрын
No but there are promotions that can put on great PPVs, especially in the 80's and 90's. The WWE isnt the be all end all in wrestling.
@paradox67895 жыл бұрын
@@DeathGirl234 alright then, differentiate them for me and don't tell me shock is negative and surprised is positive because then why would someone use it in one sentence, you can't simply have two completely different emotions at the same time.
@ijustpulledthetrigger54825 жыл бұрын
Wwe is the best though
@doctorpapaswing5 жыл бұрын
I was at Badd Blood all that time ago. I still remember the feeling in the arena when Kane debuted.
@MattElderDotCom5 жыл бұрын
Now need to do top 10 worst ppv of all time
@LexingtonDeville9845 жыл бұрын
Summerslam 2002 is in my top 5 of all time - Angle and Mysterio was one of the best openers in Summerslam history.
@the1flym4595 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute, a WhatCulture video that had the opportunity to talk about ECW One Night Stand and the Blue Meanie but didn't? Is this the end of the world?
@christianhafer98195 жыл бұрын
Love the Queen avatar.
@kratoscallofduty5 жыл бұрын
Did you know JBL beat up the Blue Meanie for real at that show?
@christianhafer98195 жыл бұрын
@@kratoscallofduty Sarcastic, right?
@kratoscallofduty5 жыл бұрын
Christian Hafer yup
@princely87434 жыл бұрын
1 year later, and i can confirm that this indeed initiated the end of the world
@notesamongtheknots83295 жыл бұрын
Who else is jealous of Adam Clery for that Becky Lynch T-shirt he wears?
@dxzxax87725 жыл бұрын
Great picks Simon. Some of the best of each era. Now, I'm going back to watch all these.
@stonefamily645 жыл бұрын
My first ever Wrestlemania in person was 24 as well. I was 17 and loved every minute it's one of my favorites as well.
@GenX68875 жыл бұрын
No Survivor Series 2002!? That show was amazing! It had the first ever Elimination Chamber!
@CenationTroop3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Even apart from the Chamber, it was a great show. Should easily be in the top 10.
@GenX68873 жыл бұрын
@@CenationTroop 2002 was THEE best Survivor Series ever! The Chamber was just cherry on top.
@fakefootytv5 жыл бұрын
Simon is the best. SIMON NUMBER ONE!!!!
@TheHive6164 жыл бұрын
'You already don't agree with this list, because you're not me. And if you ARE, What the hell has happened?' That line, and the delivery, are the perfect example of why Simon never disappoints. He just knows how to keep it fun without taking away from the topic, and can really get you interested in anything with the enthusiasm and humor. Godspeed, Simon, you're one of the best there are!
@Skoolio0Z5 жыл бұрын
THEY DID IT , THEY WILL PUT THE NAME OF THE PERSON WHO MAKES THE LIST IN THE TITLE !! (i hope)
@GangmakerZaken5 жыл бұрын
They wont
@AliciaSmith19835 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that Simon Miller didn't chose the ppv from Wembley stadium were the British bulldog won!
@zachfox99805 жыл бұрын
Right! Lol
@Gamamus5 жыл бұрын
Pretty much any NXT ppv last year and Money in the Bank 2011.
@daveisabeastly20245 жыл бұрын
They are good but won't ever be in my top 10 of all time?
@thundercloud280_5 жыл бұрын
I would definitely put Takeover New Orleans in top 10 all time.
@daveisabeastly20245 жыл бұрын
Summerslam 2002 Wrestlemania 19 Wrestlemania 17 Royal rumble 1992 Survivor series 2002 ECW 2005 SummerSlam 1998 Money in the bank 2011 Royal rumble 2000 Summerslam 2013
@markb355 жыл бұрын
Not just last year, let's not forget the glorious NXT times of 2014-2015 from Arrival to Brooklyn I when every TakeOver was pretty much a perfect show and completely sold the idea of what NXT should really be all about
@LexingtonDeville9845 жыл бұрын
Mark B The Takeover’s always deliver.
@yogayudhistira3545 жыл бұрын
10. ALL IN 2018 9. Badd Blood 1997 8. Great American Bash 1989 7. Summerslam 2013 6. Wrestle Kingdom 12 2018 5. SummerSlam 2002 4. Royal Rumble 1992 3. Summerslam 1997 & Summerslam 1998 (oh yeah) 2. Wrestlemania 24 1. WRESTLEMANIA SEVENTEEN
@kevinrobinson66015 жыл бұрын
Kane's debut at Badd Blood is my favorite WWE moment of all-time
Excellent list Simon. Here is my top 10 in no particular order Survivor Series 96 Wrestlemania 10 Death Before Dishonor 05 Final Battle 05 Wrestlemania 17 Fully Loaded 00 Unforgiven 01 No Mercy 01 Unforgiven 02 Open The Ultimate Gate 2014
@HA-4095 жыл бұрын
Dominion 2018 is one of the greatest ppv IMO.
@TheBradRules5 жыл бұрын
Simon you put Wrestlemania X7 at #1 and that's why I love you. There will never be a better event. Plus, how is it that I attended Wrestlemania XX and Wrestlemania 29 and neither is in my top 10? Just because you attended a show doesn't automatically make it great, but if that makes it so much better for you, to each his own.
@JDoggNation5 жыл бұрын
I agree. I attended 34 in New Orleans and it's no where near my top 100, let alone 10.
@LUKECLARKE095 жыл бұрын
Solid list. I would've put Suvivor Series 1998 & Fully Loaded 2000 in the mix.
@ashtonsparkszx125 жыл бұрын
Do a list "Top Ten Times something strange happened after a good match
@ChiseledAdonis5 жыл бұрын
No Wrestlemania 20?
@sebastianbattista17853 жыл бұрын
Yoooooo love ur vid
@blacktytrix5 жыл бұрын
I was actually there when Cena announced he was fighting Daniel so I have some bias too. Either way it was amazing!!! Also, my favorite wrestlemania is 24 and I'm glad to see it!
@TheRayvolution5 жыл бұрын
Got X-7 tickets for graduation and almost got into a fight after the main event finish.
@AJEHG5 жыл бұрын
Wrestlemania 17 I was in attendance for. God I loved it.
@mattb63695 жыл бұрын
Mania 17 was so beyond breathtakingly epic and perfect artistry for so many reasons, it was the true post-orgasm high for WWE in its victory over WCW in the Monday Night Wars.
@daniellander41875 жыл бұрын
Wrestlemania 17 is the greatest PPV of all time! TLC 2 is the greatest match of all time!
@editnosmirc44895 жыл бұрын
Daniel Lander I liked 19 better
@ajtp13495 жыл бұрын
No
@Theojb1015 жыл бұрын
Hbk vs taker mania 25 is the greatest match of all time imo
@superlex6115 жыл бұрын
Summerslam 2002
@tusharbisht68325 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion but some Takeovers are better than wm17
@guigui91395 жыл бұрын
ECW December to Dismenber 2006 = The Greatest PPV of all time.
@Barry80Elms5 жыл бұрын
That was horrible what you going on about lol...
@tusharbisht68325 жыл бұрын
Id say battleground 2017 and backlash 2018 come close
@harrisonwells93rd825 жыл бұрын
guillaume d'AURIA say in your own opinion
@TheBradRules5 жыл бұрын
Actually it's great compared to most modern day shows.
@phieagle33335 жыл бұрын
Go away
@dannyhulsey77802 жыл бұрын
My personal favorite is mania 21 excited to hear yours!!!
@Salbador_Mercado5 жыл бұрын
Remember when Simon was new to whatculture?
@acerpro1015 жыл бұрын
I member
@low-key51945 жыл бұрын
No
@AverageGamerJB5 жыл бұрын
Remember when WhatCulture was new to KZbin.
@lewney125 жыл бұрын
My Top 10 1. WrestleMania X-Seven 2. Royal Rumble 2001 3. WrestleMania XXX (I was there live) 4. Survivor Series 2001 5. WrestleMania X8 6. Vengeance 2002 7. Survivor Series 2002 8. WrestleMania 31 9. Survivor Series 2016 10. SummerSlam 2013
@dripifice48825 жыл бұрын
Nice, but I would personally put WM 19 and Summerslam 2002
@marcofavela16955 жыл бұрын
Rey vs Angle was a damn classic
@rymcq39295 жыл бұрын
The hair on young Simon made me pause for laughter so I didn't miss the rest
@sewwy26183 жыл бұрын
The facts he opened up with “these are MY 10 greatest ppv of all time” makes this video valid
@newfrontierbiz5 жыл бұрын
I would definitely put Bash at the Beach 96 and ECW Barely Legal over a couple of those WWE shows, but I understand the nostalgia behind the live experience.
@fakefootytv5 жыл бұрын
Imagine Simon at Cultaho...
@fthomason935 жыл бұрын
I don't really see much of a difference in the channels really. Maybe that's because I associate their voices with whatculture, but they feel like the same channel
@Andyjagodzinskishow5 жыл бұрын
I was at Judgment Day; JBL vs Cena: I Quit, WM 25; HBK vs Undertaker, and Bragging Rights; Kane vs Undertaker: Buried Alive. Out of all of the ones I was at 25 holds a special place for me.
@endlessmountain5 жыл бұрын
For me top four are easily Survivor Series'98, St. Valentines Day Massacre with Wrestlemania 2002 and 2004.
@awesomemohawk45115 жыл бұрын
I’ll be going to summer slam 2019 for my birthday, it will be my second wrestling event after a house show and seeing all these great summer slams on this list hyped me up
@korikelli27995 жыл бұрын
I'm blessing your birthday, this will be the best summer slam in 10+ years
@awesomemohawk45115 жыл бұрын
Kori Kelli thank you 🙏
@bassacoustic15495 жыл бұрын
Right call on WM17 being top, but harsh on the rest of the great year that was 2000. Royal rumble (street fight arguably best ever WWF match) and Summerslam from that year both pretty special. I think in terms of hype and buzz InVasion 2001 is up there, what a build up and atmosphere leading into it.
@UnbrokenFlame2 жыл бұрын
Wrestlemania 24 is my second favorite Mania ever. 2008 was a memorable year for me
@jobbygobbler695 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for uploading these videos , love the content keep doing you, so jealous that you lived through the 90s wwf
@mrkipling22015 жыл бұрын
Ciaran Kenny late 80’s WWF was when I started watching and that time say from 88-92 was the best time for wrestling IMO.
@bobbydelacroix15153 жыл бұрын
Halloween Havoc ‘96 I randomly put on one day and omg it’s full of amazing matches 🙌
@Marcellus-ro4ko5 жыл бұрын
Wrestlemania X-7 Royal Rumble 2000 Summerslam 2002 Wrestlemania 21 ECW One Night Stand 2005 NXT Takeover New Orleans Wrestle kingdom 12 Nxt Takeover Dallas 2016 Wrestlemania 24 Royal Rumble 2001
@saygoodnighttothebadguy5 жыл бұрын
My personal favorites in no particular order: 10. TNA Victory Road 2008 9. WWF Royal Rumble 2000 8. WCW Starcade 1997 7. TNA Lockdown 2007 6. WWE Money In The Bank 2011 5. WCW Spring Stampede 1998 4. WCW Halloween Havoc 1999 3. WWF Survivor Series 1998 (Deadly Games 2. WWF Royal Rumble 2001 1. WWF Wrestlemania X-7 Honorable Mention: WCW Bash at The Beach 1998
@russelldunningham9715 жыл бұрын
Love to hear simon on raw commentary
@Spongemonkey265 жыл бұрын
RR '92 is still probably the best "match" start to finish, I've ever seen. So much star power and an unpredictable ending.
@superlex6115 жыл бұрын
But Flair was just getting on the map at that time to showcase his ability to have hour matches
@superlex6115 жыл бұрын
@Joey G in the WWE at that time and 5 months later he is WWE champion
@Angel-xp5et5 жыл бұрын
Simon = The only reason why WhatCulture hasn’t fallen off.
@nunyerbizzness935 жыл бұрын
Nice, diverse, extremely respectable list of great wrestling ppvs. Now if you dont mind me I'm gonna go watch Great American Bash 1989 lol...
@oldcheese13005 жыл бұрын
Don’t apologize for liking ALL IN it was amazing
@lordshylock40375 жыл бұрын
Awesome list, at least 6 of my favourites on there. Great opinions and reasoning. Top draw slap head 😁
@trajoanmayberry38085 жыл бұрын
Top 50 Greatest Wrestling PPV Including NXT ,ROH,WWE/WWF,NJPW,TNA,ECW And WCW 50.ROH Driven 2007 49.WCW WORLD WAR 3 48.NXT TakeOver Brooklyn I 47.TNA Final Resolution 2005 46.WCW Starrcade 1995 45.ECW One Night Stand 2005 44.NJPW & ROH Wars Of The Worlds 2014 43.WWF No Mercy 1999 42.TNA Hardcore Justice 2012 41.WCW Halloween Havoc 1997 40.NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 9 39.WWF Royal Rumble 97 38.ECW Barely Legal 97 37.TNA Slammiversary 2006 36.NXT TakeOver Phoenix 35.WWF Armageddon 2000 34.WCW Great American Bash 1996 33.WWF Wrestlemania 3 32.WCW WrestleWar 1991 31.ECW November To Remember 1997 30.ROH Power Struggle 2016 29.TNA Bound of Glory 2006 28.WWF WrestleMania 12 27.NXT TakeOver Chicago II 26.WCW Beach Blast 1992 25.WWE Unforgiven 2006 24.WCW Bash at The Beach 96 23.NXT TakeOver Brooklyn III 22.WWE Elimination Chamber 2013 21.TNA Lockdown 2011 20.WWF SummerSlam 2000 19.ROH Manhattan Mayhem 18.WWE Vengeance 2005 17.TNA Unbreakable 2005 16.WCW Slamboree 1994 15.NXT TakeOver Brooklyn IV 14.WWE WrestleMania 20 13.WWF Backlash 2000 12.WWF Canadian Stampede 1997 11.WWE Money In The Bank 2011 10.WWF Royal Rumble 2001 9.NXT TakeOver Wargames 8.All IN 7.WWE Survivor Series 2002 6.NXT TakeOver New Orleans 5.WWF No Way Out 2001 4.ECW One Night Stand 2006 3.Wrestlemania X7 2.Summerslam 2002 1.Wrestlemania 30
@enigmax795 жыл бұрын
i'm probably in the minority, but the 1994 Royal Rumble will always hold a special place in my heart. it's the PPV that hooked me as a fan. as hokey as it is now, the ending to the casket match as well as co-winners of the Rumble was amazing to my younger self. add the drama with Bret and Owen, my first time seeing Razor Ramon defend his IC title, the opener of Bam Bam VS Tatanka, and the Royal Rumble itself, and it was sensory overload. as for top 10? no way i could list only 10 since almost every Takeover i've seen was great. but i definitely know that Summerslam 2013, Money In The Bank 2011 (i was there so i'm biased), Extreme Rules 2012 (was there live as well), Wrestlemania X-7, WM 19, and Summerslam 1994 and 2002 will always be toward the top.
@Everette12335 жыл бұрын
Great list 👍🏾
@laggzzy64515 жыл бұрын
that Wrestlemania 17 rock vs stone cold promo still gives me goosebumps
@sharjeelahmed79135 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched anything from the 90's besides some of the clips on the Internet because when 2000 but I have watched some stuff from the early 2000's sometime later when I knew how to use the internet properly. So based on that My top 10 ppvs (which are basically only WWE since I am a WWE fanboy) 10-Vengeance 2005 9-SummerSlam 2013 8-No Way Out 2009 7-Wrestlemania 31 6-SummerSlam 2002 5-No Way Out 2001 4-Money in the Bank 2011 3-NXT Takeover New Orleans 2-Wretlemania 17 1-Wrestlemania 30
@7654x5 жыл бұрын
WM3, 6, 17, Survivor Series 87, Starrcade 87, definitely in my top 10. Oh, & WM18, Rock Vs Hogan 🎳
@mirzarizwanbaig94495 жыл бұрын
Welcome back.
@zachfox99805 жыл бұрын
Mysterio Angle at SummerSlam 2002 is in my top 10 favorite matches regardless of length.
@JovaughnRamirez945 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right about WrestleMania 17
@parveskoyes99375 жыл бұрын
Brock Lesnar Vs CM Punk was one of the greatest matches I’ve ever seen.
@MattBG675 жыл бұрын
It was fucking great, everything felt so fluid and real.
@sirtiger94385 жыл бұрын
Simon Miller with hair can not be unseen.
@taranmichra76965 жыл бұрын
Simon’s back
@Velal075 жыл бұрын
I also was at WM24 and loved it.
@Imsomeloner5 жыл бұрын
SIMON IS BACK
@arslanbaig19435 жыл бұрын
In 2002, the wwe audience were tired the Rock?!! What the hell you're talking about? Can u clarify.
@rosserjake3 жыл бұрын
@Chick Magnet Joe I feel like at wm 18 there was huge Hulk nostalgia and Rock's was booed at summerslam because of Internet rumours correctly saying he'd go to Hollywood. Most of the year, he received massive pops as usual. Glad he turned heel in 2003 though.
@g.g.baxter48684 жыл бұрын
No Way Out 09 will always be my top even though my only to date in live attendance was WM35
@buggyworld77235 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with number 1. WM 17 was the greatest wrestlemania of all time. Every match was entertaining. Even the gimmick battle royal was entertaining
@buggyworld77235 жыл бұрын
Well when you're watching older guys wrestle you have to lower your standards a bit because the wrestling in their time wasn't as advanced or fast paced for that time
@rapidashingfrog69465 жыл бұрын
Noticed repo man in picture and yup Simon had that shout out
@juliemiller16945 жыл бұрын
Great list. I couldn't pick only 10.
@legobobafett46775 жыл бұрын
So is Whatculture Magazine coming back?
@lifeistooshortya51835 жыл бұрын
MegamanPokemon Fan
@legobobafett46775 жыл бұрын
Life is too short ya ?
@ama-ri_vox5 жыл бұрын
@@lifeistooshortya5183 have you even heard of Whatculture Magazine
@lifeistooshortya51835 жыл бұрын
MORTAL KOMBAT PS2 FAN yes sir
@ama-ri_vox5 жыл бұрын
@@lifeistooshortya5183 ok good
@Davidjon19465 жыл бұрын
I'm biased because WrestleMania 6 is mine simply because it was my second ever event besides a house show in Niagara Falls New York but spending the weekend in Toronto at a nice hotel for my 12th birthday surprise for my father was one of the greatest memories of my life there was only an hour drive to Toronto from my hometown of Buffalo New York as well so WrestleMania 6 is always my favorite just for so many reasons
@justinhamlin22584 жыл бұрын
Wm 19 my favorite ppv imo
@vanessastegall2 жыл бұрын
I went to Staples Center for Summerslam a year later.
@bitopondas27605 жыл бұрын
Not gonna cry about it but i think Simon Underestimates some of the DOMINION PPV's
@CenationTroop3 жыл бұрын
As far as WWE goes, Survivor Series 2002 should be in the top 10 and in my opinion, I'd have it in the top 3 and WrestleMania X-7 is the greatest of them all. Nothing like it before or since.
@twig85235 жыл бұрын
Is that consensus on the "highway to hell" summer slam? My brother & i were deeply invested in that show & storyline.
@richbroadhead88145 жыл бұрын
I went to mania 17 so im liking this because I think its the best mania ever but my bias...you validated. That being said my top ppv I recommend is Backlash 2001. If you see this and watch either. Your Welcome
@thecoolkids24435 жыл бұрын
Summerslam 2000 and 2001. Royal Rumble 2001and 2003.
@natev63065 жыл бұрын
I love Stone Cold vs Taker at SS98. Great main event.
@gammasmash19243 жыл бұрын
I was a huge Flair mark as a kid. I used to argue with my best friend, who was a Hogan fan, about who the real world champion was. Cut to 1992, Flair winning the title, I felt vindicated. I even got to see Flair vs Hogan at a TV taping later that year. Flair won btw, by countout.
@bunyan4.205 жыл бұрын
hey new Simon Miller and Whatculture shirt Cena All The Way Cena Number 1
@brandontimmerman68082 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on one night stand 05 and 06? I thought they were good but maybe just me
@bensutton2905 жыл бұрын
Royal Rumble 2001 has got to be in there somewhere. Simon, I understand you were at a couple of those shows which adds bias. The Rumble match, E&C v Dudleys, Jericho v Benoit ladder match were absolutely superb! Even Angle v HHH for the WWF title was good. Chyna v Ivory 🤦🏻♂️only footnote.
@tylerfields02115 жыл бұрын
9:21 it’s Repo Man!!!
@lindenstromberg68595 жыл бұрын
NXT Takeover New Orleans is my favourite of all time, outside of the NXT PPVs, my favourite is probably Wrestlemania 20 or ECW One Night Stand. I like Mania 17 too, but it didn't feel as special to me as WM20, Backlash 2000, Royal Rumble 2000/2001/2004/2018, or the top half of Vengeance 2001.
@Hawkeye263 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Badd Blood got a mention here! KUDOS!
@JoeZayp5 жыл бұрын
In my Opinion MITB 2011 for the obvious reasons and Mania 30 with Daniel winning, the end of the streak, cesaro shining as a single wrestler and a really good card!
@wwemonkey6195 жыл бұрын
My top 10 WM X 9 WM X7 8 Royal Rumble 1992 7 Summerslam 2013 6 Royal Rumble 2017 5 Survivor Series 1990 4 Armegeddon 2000 3 Wrestlemania 23 2 Royal Rumble 2004 1 ECW ONS 2005
@joeneway5 жыл бұрын
1992 Royal Rumble also known for Roddy Pipers IC title win. How could you leave that out!
@XxkillerxX102 жыл бұрын
That intro made me laugh SO hard mao
@abe_linc024 жыл бұрын
Brett heart vs shawn michaels was the most talked about ppv in my opinion ever. Us as kids. We debated 10 years after the match and fights and everything happen friends were lost from that match alone. Too me it's the number 1 all time