Simple Cold & Dark (Condensed Checklist) - JF Hawk T1 (MSFS) - real Hawk pilot

[@AngryPrawn]

Little tip regarding switches that are difficult to push in the right direction: use the scroll wheel. Really handy for the starter and the lights. Instead of having to put your mouse in the miniscule spot to move the switch in the desired direction, you can just pop it anywhere over the switch and scroll up or down as needed. Works with just about everything in the sim, including fiddly keys and fuel selectors.

[@cgaviator]

Amazing, great advice! Thanks 👍🏻

[@rinzler9775]

One more tip I found for setting dials such as heading, autopilot height, etc - I used to sit there mouse scroll wheeling forever, then I realised you can mouse left click hold on the dial and move the mouse left or right to fast move the dials.

[@DCDesignsMSFS]

Brilliant, at last somebody who really does know how to fly fast jets! Great video, keep them coming! :)

[@cgaviator]

Thanks! Appreciate your kind words, and your great products! Keep those coming too! ;)

[@hjr2000]

@DC Designs - you legends!

[@ArrRoh]

Amazing video, thank you. You make it look so easy, but totally appreciate that in reality (and in the sim) it’s much harder. Thanks for the info and keep up your great work

[@cgaviator]

Thank you, will do 👍🏻

[@ArrRoh]

@@cgaviator thanks! One problem I do have is on downwind trying to maintain 150 knots with 85% power, it doesn’t seem to hold altitude despite constant trimming. Just a constant descent. Any tips?! Cheers

[@cgaviator]

@@ArrRoh use 90% with mid flap

[@cgaviator]

@@ArrRoh also worth checking out my military circuit demo

[@ArrRoh]

@@cgaviator Thank you again! I’ll definitely check that out again - probably all down to practice. It’s definitely different to flying PA28’s (what I’m used to). Thanks again and also for taking the time to reply to all comments - don’t know where you find the time but certainly much appreciated mate

[@1039king]

So easy when you know how Chris, thank you for instructing us

[@cgaviator]

😅 isn’t everything lol!? My pleasure!

[@PCSheepy]

Look at that original 4FTS colour scheme. Love it.

[@cgaviator]

Yeah, I like the old school schemes

[@DJS-Jay]

Your credentials alone are worth the sub! Such a calm smooth confident dude, I could listen to you all day. Took notes and reaching now for the aviator shades and my cigar like Tom Cruise lol (superb job sir tip of the hat switch for you)

[@cgaviator]

lol, thanks! Appreciate ya!

[@attiliofrancescodariva593]

I'm very happy I found this channel. Nothing better then a real Hawk pilot to learn how to fly this plane. I wish you could tell us more about the plane, its features and an in depth review would be very much appreciated. I've always used pistons engine planes in the sim but this little jet is convincing me to make the step up and adopt it as personal light weight high performance travel machine. I really hope this channel will help me to become more familiar with this awesome plane.

[@cgaviator]

I hope so to! I've got a few more video ideas left regarding this aircraft. And I also need to branch out to other models. If only there were more hours in the day! lol

[@attiliofrancescodariva593]

​@@cgaviator take your time and stick on this plane. The T1 has literally monopolised everyone attention and there are way too many arm-chair pilots making tutorial and reviews and they never even flew this plane at all... you are rare stuff and this is currently the most accurate light jet model for MSFS. You can really make the difference and tech us how to fly it properly. And when you run out of tutorial, just show us how you make a proper flight from A to B with all the preparation required, weather, flight plan, payload, fuel calc, etc..

[@cgaviator]

@@attiliofrancescodariva593 sounds like a plan! And thanks 👍🏻

[@paulsleighty]

Awesome, you made it look easy. I shall keep returning to this video for reference as im learning to fly the Hawk in my sim.

[@cgaviator]

Thanks for the pointer about flightsim.to EGOV! I hope it fixes the Navaid frequency.

[@fussyfez]

Hey chris, i know you have backed off on the content at the moment, but as im sure you are aware, there has been a flight model update for the hawk.. Im really pleased with the update but im sure im not the only one who would really appreciate a video from yourself reviewing the latest flight model. Best wishes and many thanks for all your content so far.

[@cgaviator]

yes indeed, I have been away. i plan to get back into the hawk soon, thanks

[@MrPeterhemm]

Excellent tutorial and love the checklist! Keep up the great work!

[@cgaviator]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Stonky356]

I found that really useful and am looking forward to further videos. Thanks.

[@cgaviator]

A pleasure, much appreciated!

[@wdoodoo1]

Thank you for sharing your expertise. Really wanted to know how to start engine a jet aircraft.

[@cgaviator]

You’re welcome 👍🏻

[@trevlamb9683]

I actually worked on 241 at Valley in the eighties. It was a pain to get it through flight test after a minor servicing, undemanded yaw at 0.8 mach.

[@cgaviator]

Awesome! Have to admit, your name sounds familiar. Did you stick around into the 2000s?

[@trevlamb9683]

@@cgaviator No, was posted to Sealand in 89, Goshawk 83-87, Scheds 87-89. I was one of the Snecos that gave you 700👍

[@martinhsl68hw]

Fabulous! Sorry for driving onto the runway when you were going past - we'd run out of Victoria sponge cake and Darjeeling so it was pretty important.

[@cgaviator]

Haha!

[@Lonsome1223]

I used to be a real world pilot years ago light singles and twins it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on MSFS as compared to the real thing. I think the crosswind effect in MSFS is over the top that i can remember.

[@cgaviator]

I added a comparison for the Hawk vs real life on one of the other posts here. It’s pretty good. I haven’t been flying much crosswind to be fair though I’ll add some weather for future videos.

[@Lonsome1223]

@@cgaviator OK, thanks.

[@mdo12345]

Excellent video, informative and concise. Many thanks - liked and subscribed.

[@cgaviator]

A pleasure, thanks, much appreciated

[@Novacngood185]

Keep them coming. Start-ups by the book are a must for you guys where things can go wrong. The average Joe like me. Do I need to check battery voltage. No. I love a start-up. But why check a gauge that's never going to go wrong in FS. I bought the Hawk T1 for DCS years ago. But that fell by the wayside. Now I get to fly the Hawk around scenery I know. Do you have a Nav video yet?

[@cgaviator]

In progress! Yeah, I think I'll do a quick start demo on the next flight (quicker than my C&D demo). Planning video tonight perhaps, flying it tomorrow.

[@cgaviator]

And yeah, the DCS one was a bit rubbish. And that's the main drawback of DCS, very little familiar scenery.

[@johnspurr1792]

Delighted to have found this video and your content. Equally happy to read your thoughtful comments about the flight model below. Assume your control settings / sensitivity, etc on default?! Off to watch your Tutor video. But not before I subscribe. Very much hope to see more!

[@cgaviator]

Very kind of you to say! I’m sorry about the audio quality of my other videos. I’m still learning along the way! I think my next videos will be some low level and perhaps an ILS.

[@boggy8557]

@@cgaviator some low level tutorial with how it's done in real life with regards to planning and execution would be amazing!

[@Skinny-me]

Love your videos Chris, you make the fun & interesting! and are an amazing tutor as well! Thanks! David.

[@cgaviator]

Top praise! Thanks, always appreciate people taking time to drop kind words 👍🏻

[@Skinny-me]

@@cgaviator You should get a coffee-stand! ;)

[@cgaviator]

@@Skinny-me definitely! 😁

[@simontaylor8774]

Another informative video - I'm surprised you don't have more views and followers.

[@cgaviator]

This is an oldie! Guess I’m pretty niche 😅

[@simontaylor8774]

@@cgaviator Only just dowloaded MSFS for the sole reason of getting the Hawk and being able to fly in the UK. Usually play DCS but fancied a change of scenery. Searching for tutorials I stumbled across your channel - some really good stuff.

[@cgaviator]

@@simontaylor8774 some good hawk navexes to watch 👍🏻 And I hear ya on the scenery front. It’s a very good representation.

[@Andy-xg8wk]

very nice video! I know you guys are busy when doing start-up checks but I'll try and remember to minimise rt on stud one next time to give you a bit of peace and quiet! :D

[@cgaviator]

Haha, I've perhaps made it look harder than it is to slow things down (and remember what I used to do!). Thanks for what you do, always appreciated!

[@paull123]

Hi Chris for some reason the landing gear and flaps stays out even though the flaps setting shows zero in the cockpit. I cannot retract the landing gear or the flaps.. Going through a reinstall of the Hawk to make sure its not a corrupt file or something else. Worked perfectly until today. Have not changed any settings. Can you please confirm to manually extend or retract the landing gear you just press the up or down buttons on the LHS panel ? Thanks.

[@cgaviator]

Are you somehow using emergency flaps and gear?

[@paull123]

@cgaviator Hi Chris think I tried that as a last option. On the ground in cold and dark the flaps are deployed. Is this normal ? If not can you otherwise somehow reset the emergency flaps and gears some other way ? I think somehow the hawk stores its original state from the last flight. I might be wrong though. Thanks.

[@paull123]

@@cgaviator For some reason now the nose wheel is down and the wing wheels are retracted. No idea whats going on !!

[@cgaviator]

@@paull123 no idea, sometimes if you’re using peripherals you may have a switch bound that may affect something! Otherwise I’m not sure

[@paull123]

@cgaviator Thanks Chris. That's the route I was going on. Appreciate your help.

[@rogt7458]

Brilliant tuition. Just subscribed to someone who knows. What are your top 3 addons mentioned in your Condensed Checklist section?......Thanks

[@cgaviator]

Very kind, thank you 👍🏻

[@sesvid]

This is awesome!! Thank you so much 👍

[@cgaviator]

You’re welcome 👍🏻

[@davidmuir6849]

Fantastic clip ,thanks for sharing . Just wondering if you could share your control settings for mfs with the hawk . My rudder and elevator trim are far too sensitive . I use the warthog stick and throttle Thanks Dave

[@cgaviator]

Settings are default though I do use a 10cm extension for the warthog stick

[@davidmuir6849]

@@cgaviator Thanks Chris ,i have the same extention . Just another wee question if you dont mind . I did a flight on vatsim and got the radio working but couldnt work out how to change the transponder code ,just wondering if you have a clip showing how to change the digits . Looked in the manual but its not clear Thanks Dave

[@cgaviator]

@@davidmuir6849 I think I cover it in the hawk ILS video at the beginning. Click the left fight switch right. Digits flash. Move the corresponding up down switch to desired number. When finished click the left right switch right. That should be good to go

[@davidmuir6849]

@@cgaviator thanks Chris

[@AdamsSIMporium]

Awesome, great vid thanks. I'd love a complete detailed guide on procedures plus explaining everything in the cockpit (what everything does and means etc) but I know that would take a long time and perhaps be very boring for you lol.

[@cgaviator]

It’s an idea, I’ll add it to the list!

[@sloflight]

Thank you for the helpful videos on the TWO. Can you please share your joystick and pedals setting in MSFS? Did you change the sensitivity curve? I'm having trouble finding the good spot there

[@cgaviator]

All default settings! But I have got a 10cm extension for my joystick

[@ronstuveling]

Great video, thanks

[@cgaviator]

No problem 👍

[@jjsmallpiece9234]

Worked on XX241 many times. Thought 4FTS had stopped using the traditional red/white colour scheme? Disagree about not locking the canopy before starting the engine. I can never remember ever seeing or myself starting a Hawk with the canopy open. T Mk1s are always parked/shutdown with the flaps fully down. This ensures the oil levels in the hydraulic reservoirs can be read properly by the ground crew. Are there really wind turbines right along the side of the runway!!! 9.09-9.13.

[@cgaviator]

Yeah, they stopped using that livery but I like it! 😄 I believe the manual says close the canopy but don’t lock it. And good shout on the flaps, I’ve been flying different types of late with different processes. Thanks 👍🏻

[@jjsmallpiece9234]

@@cgaviator SO you can be blamed for breaking lots of jets!!

[@cgaviator]

@@jjsmallpiece9234 haha, never!

[@jjsmallpiece9234]

@@cgaviator Seat to control column interface error - standard comment when a jockey reported a fault and there was nothing wrong with the jet.

[@cgaviator]

@@jjsmallpiece9234 😂

[@340ACP]

Very well done thank you

[@cgaviator]

Thank you for your kind feedback

[@kevgoss1976]

Superb videos, as I've just bought the T1 One thing I'm struggling with is level flight as I can't seem to trim properly. Is there a specific way you need to do this?

[@cgaviator]

Select Hold and Trim is the way. But this model is suffering from flight dynamics that have been made worse by sim updates. It’s, how do we say… a characteristic of the model at the moment.

[@kevgoss1976]

@@cgaviator Thanks for the reply mate, seems every time I throttle up or down I'm constantly trimming. I'll just have to persevere I think.

[@cgaviator]

@@kevgoss1976 it does force us to be hyper accurate. Set power for speed so it doesn’t change 1kt!

[@kevgoss1976]

Mate once again thank you for the replies.

[@cgaviator]

@@kevgoss1976 of course, my pleasure

[@MattJones675GR9]

I'm struggling with the trim in this Hawk. I get it level of sorts but it still climbs despite having the flaps fully up 😕😢

[@cgaviator]

It’s gotten to the stage of being a bug. JF are aware. It came about from many sim updates and changes to core sim flight dynamics. They’re working on it, I hope they find a solution. In the mean time, if you want good trim, your speed needs to be very stable

[@MattJones675GR9]

@@cgaviator Thanks Chris :) do you plan on making any tutorials about navigation like how to use tacan, dme, and vor beacons, time on target etc and how to read charts please?

[@cgaviator]

@@MattJones675GR9 check out the rest of my channel. I do a scotland route and a planning video. Includes medium level via a VOR

[@rinzler9775]

Does the RAF enforce written checklists, or is it all from memory ?

[@cgaviator]

All from memory including boldface emergency actions. Any other emergencies requires reference to the checklist.

[@petercrowhurst]

Nice one chris. I thought you may have flown the real thing. Was it a fairly easy beta test

[@cgaviator]

Not on the JF beta team sadly, but I’m impressed with the level of detail!

[@Zeeflyboy]

Great thanks, look forward to your other videos on this plane! Would also like your opinions on how faithful the flight model is, though I appreciate it's always somewhat subjective for sims - especially when you aren't feeling g-forces! More just curious if the general feel and behaviour is about right... I've been enjoying this little jet a lot!

[@cgaviator]

Having flown many aircraft in MSFS I can tell you that the Flight Dynamics feel unique and authentic. I would say that the pitch is a tad sensitive on take off and it's tricky to trim once level. But this can be true of the real sims that train crew for these aircraft! The modelling of the buffet is subtle but effective and she rolls and pitches like she should. They've done a fantastic job!

[@Zeeflyboy]

@@cgaviator of course, even the Level D sims aren’t perfect, and the lack of correct forces always makes control “feel” a bit different to reality. Good to hear the opinion of someone who has actually flown the hawk though - it’s where I would have wanted to end up had life taken different turns! Closest I ever got to a military jet was sitting in a (sadly stationary!) harrier up at Cottesmore back when I was contemplating life in the RAF. Cheers for the video and I look forward to your others on this beautiful plane!

[@delta558]

If you have any points you'd like to make about the flight dynamics specifically, feel free to drop me a pm on the JF forum - same username there as here. I never consider it as a 'finished piece' and am always happy to add improvements if it's possible but be aware that we are seriously limited in what we can adjust in this sim.

[@cgaviator]

@@delta558 cool, will do. But I completely understand the flight model limitation. I think you’ve got it incredibly close!

[@peter-mv5gk]

@@delta558 really what is with sim update 6? i thought it braught so many new flight dynamic updates?? hm...

[@edburrows2439]

It's a while since I flew them but my first reaction was that I was a little disappointed in the module (I think my expectations were too high, I've not given too much time to optimising my MSFS setup, and I've only tried a couple of flights in it). I wish there was a way to turn off the nose wheel steering - I understand you can on some of the other versions by JustFlight, but not this MSFS one. I also found the engine indications and responses looked off from what I remember, especially TGT. But as said it has been a few years since I flew one. I'll give it a bit more time and do some flying around the stall/spin, and I do need to refine my setup anyway. It certainly looks and sounds great and I'm probably being a little harsh on it (as I say. my expectations were probably a little too high). How many hours Hawk did you fly?

[@cgaviator]

There’s always some trade off with the sim, I’ve been feeding some of this back to the developers as they are actively fixing the areas that they can. And good question, I’d have to check the logbook. It’s been a while for me also!

[@paulsleighty]

Hi Chris, do you have rudder pedals, I have the Saitek ones, for the life of me it is nearly impossible to keep the aircraft on the runway whilst taking off, landing isn't as bad. Do you use rudder pedals, and if you do what settings are you using in msfs please.

[@cgaviator]

I have MFG Crosswind pedals. I do need quite a bit of rudder on takeoff. I think the aircraft weather cocks towards the wind.

[@paulsleighty]

@@cgaviator I can put a full rudder input and it doesn't stop the aircraft veering off, initially I am going to try recalibration in Windows, as someone else has stated on Facebook that improved their erratic rudder.

[@cgaviator]

@@paulsleighty maybe. If that doesn’t work, and you’re flying live weather, check that you don’t have a crazy crosswind. Max 30kt.

[@jjsmallpiece9234]

I've now downloaded the Hawk - I have the default set up at the moment with a Thrustmaster controller. I landed at Manchester - the brakes are very ineffective, despite landing ok, I still over ran the runway end at 50kts. Any way of increasing the brake effectiveness?

[@cgaviator]

Unless SU7 has done something. Update released today, try that first. Also double check your control assignments. I’ve never had an issue with brakes

[@jjsmallpiece9234]

@@cgaviator Fixed it of sorts. The brakes are also assigned to the . (decimal) key on the number pad - this works. Just need to figure out why the button on the controller doesn't work. Do you still wear a blue suit then and a green romper suit?

[@cgaviator]

@@jjsmallpiece9234 couldn’t possibly say!

[@jjsmallpiece9234]

@@cgaviator A long time since I used to wear one as a tech

[@MoonoiChaya]

Hello, did you any mod or addon for the camera moving inside cockpit ?

[@cgaviator]

No, I use trackir

[@MoonoiChaya]

@@cgaviator ohh, yhank you ;)

[@harryballer4239]

is it normal for the RAT to deploy then retract after you have shutdown the engine?

[@cgaviator]

Yup! Standard checklist item, stir the pot 4 times to deplete the Hyd, RAT pops out then retracts

[@harryballer4239]

Cheers for that, doing aerospace at uni and leaning that Bae aircraft are filled with some interesting features 🤣

[@cgaviator]

@@harryballer4239 beats the pants off the American stuff! The T38 can’t start itself (needs ground air), has no parking brake and no way to land if both engines fail! 😅

[@lsmith2030]

Everytime i go to idle throttle I get gen 1 and 2 fault and eventually the gen will fail? anyone know what causes this ?

[@davecbm6062]

Can you show how to set up ILS. approach?

[@cgaviator]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/opO2oX6djcSLmJo Let me know if there's something you don't understand. Happy to help.

[@flynnwiltshire]

Just got this for Xbox dose anyone know where the pitch trim button in as my plans wants to nose dive up all the time

[@cgaviator]

Replied on other vid 👍🏻

[@BorisJohnsonMayor]

Is it just me or are the flight controls in the air pretty bad? I haven't flown this jet IRL so can't really tell how realistic it is, but it is so sensitive and slight movement of the stick and it feels like i'm flinging the plane jarringly.

[@cgaviator]

Well hello sir! I would say you could ask to fly with 100 Sqn for the real deal? Can I also say, I think you should do more for the environment and focus on sustainability rather than growth! Lol… but in response to your question: The controls aren’t too bad. Jets, especially small ones at high speed, can be twitchy. Key is smooth inputs and trimming. Also need to avoid high levels of buffet (easy to pull too much G when you’re not actually experiencing it) as that will produce some crazy outcomes. Hope that helps

[@jayrermars8493]

Not sure what I've done wrong but the Hawk was working fune but now on the ground the engine wont start up and the aircraft is shaking ? I've reinstalled and same problem.

[@cgaviator]

Have you installed any freeware or other models recently? Sometimes there’s a conflict?

[@jayrermars8493]

@@cgaviator No, has been working fine. If I change livery the shaking stops but I can't start the engine? Even ctrl E doesn't fire it up?

[@jayrermars8493]

Problem solved. Was low fuel. Strange how it made the aircraft shake on ground though.

[@jayrermars8493]

Problem solved. Was low fuel. Strange how it made the aircraft shake on ground though.

[@cgaviator]

@@jayrermars8493 ah yes, low fuel would be an issue! 😆 Is strange though. The hawk hasn’t been updated much since recent sim updates so maybe that’s why it’s doing strange stuff.

[@Jax0319]

Hi awesome tutorial, but i cant streer. pls help

[@cgaviator]

Strange. You can’t steer the Hawk? Shouldn’t be an issue unless you’ve accidentally inbound your rudder/steering axis

[@Jax0319]

@@cgaviator No, i cant. also i unlocked the steering handle, and still cant

[@cgaviator]

@@Jax0319 oh that’s right, you toggled the rudder pedal gust lock away in the right rudder pedal?

[@Jax0319]

@@cgaviator Yes, but i will watch your video again.

[@ruggerorandisi7785]

make F14A and B too please

[@cgaviator]

That would need considerable research! I'll start looking for gaps in popular addons and fill a need when I find one. I'll keep the F14 in mind, I've heard good things but haven't tried it yet.

[@ruggerorandisi7785]

@@cgaviator thanks man its not a problem if you don’t want to btw

[@cgaviator]

@@ruggerorandisi7785 no worries, I’ll see what Christmas brings me! 😄

[@ruggerorandisi7785]

@@cgaviator great!!

[@rocket_1235]

Why does my battery just die after like 20-30 mine of flying?

[@cgaviator]

Do you get multiple cautions and warnings and need to reset generators etc?

[@rocket_1235]

@cgaviator nope it's literally I'm flying then lose all battery power

[@cgaviator]

@@rocket_1235 are all your caution warning off after start? Do you start with engines running? Are the generators definitely on? Are you using the most up to date hawk model?

[@rocket_1235]

@@cgaviator warnings r all off, Idk what u mean, I believe so, and yes

[@cgaviator]

@@rocket_1235 maybe worth submitting a ticket with just flight

[@rutchiemctavish]

Great video! Thank you. +1 more subscriber from me.

[@cgaviator]

Thanks, appreciate it!

[@smiteknight8539]

Tried to watch your channel a few times sound way too low

[@cgaviator]

Thanks for the feedback, improvements in progress. Tends to work better on headphones.

[@AstroDad]

instrumentation looks so flat and 2 dimentional

[@cgaviator]

I wouldn’t say flat, but they are slightly too reflective. My overall impression is that the cockpit is in the top 3 for MSFS right now but it’s only an opinion.

[@jaymac7203]

As easy as that? 😭 lol

[@cgaviator]

Only took a year to get right! 😅

[@jaymac7203]

@@cgaviator Lol 😂

[@Tonkotsu2k10]

your videos are so quiet :(

[@cgaviator]

That one is, a very early version. The newer ones are better.