Simple RV Suspension Upgrade!

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@garyschroeder6600
@garyschroeder6600 2 жыл бұрын
This seems to be the answer to what we've gone thru recently. Simple design, quick install, and perfect.👍 I will be checking into these suspension helpers.
@robertorion6559
@robertorion6559 5 жыл бұрын
I use Sumo Springs on my Winnebago View Class C RV. They very much helped reduce sway and make a more comfortable ride. Glad to see they are making them for trailers now too. Nice video.
@SuperSpringsInternational
@SuperSpringsInternational 5 жыл бұрын
We love working with Winnebago. We're now Original Equipment on the Travato!
@RVingwiththeMoracas
@RVingwiththeMoracas 5 жыл бұрын
We just added sumo springs and are very happy we did.
@SuperSpringsInternational
@SuperSpringsInternational 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@erhodes352
@erhodes352 5 жыл бұрын
Are you still glad you put on Sumosprings? How do they help with rough roads?
@The_Good_Life_starts_today
@The_Good_Life_starts_today Жыл бұрын
Jared, your channel has got to be one of my favorites. Seems every time I look to perform maintenance, a fix or a mod you've already documented it with a friendly, no-nonsense approach. This upgrade is no exception and plan to perform this in the very near future. I want to also give a shout out to @SuperSpringsInternational for leaving their 15% off code intact. Happy Travels!
@johndolezal310
@johndolezal310 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jared, we can always count on you for good information. Take care and be safe,
@tonibrunson7017
@tonibrunson7017 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! We just ordered a set for our new to us motorhome. Thanks for the discount.
@kobra997
@kobra997 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. After 3 years the code still works!
@herb7877
@herb7877 5 жыл бұрын
Good info... Good to see product info in the real world & see the comments.
@DapperRV
@DapperRV 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning the "suction" effect. Up until this video I thought I was insane and/or that it was just my camper. Definitely adding these to my future upgrade list!
@SuperSpringsInternational
@SuperSpringsInternational 5 жыл бұрын
This was one of the first things we noticed when we tested them during R&D. I personally had them on my trailer.
@DapperRV
@DapperRV 5 жыл бұрын
@@SuperSpringsInternational Guys you're winning me over AND being left wondering if you have a product that would fit up to. Nissan Frontier frame as the Xterra uses the same base frame.
@SuperSpringsInternational
@SuperSpringsInternational 5 жыл бұрын
Ty Sullivan thank you!! send us a note and we’ll take care of you. You can email me directly adam@supersprings.com
@RaceMentally
@RaceMentally 5 жыл бұрын
SuperSprings great product. What durometer are these? Do you offer different progressive rates?
@SuperSpringsInternational
@SuperSpringsInternational 5 жыл бұрын
Race Mentally hi! Not to get too technical but we use the term “density” as these are a micro cellular urethane vs “durometer” which is typically used when talking about rubber. As far as these Trailer SumoSprings, they are our lowest density or blue / any part ending in -40. In other application we make denser materials that are a black / 47 and a yellow / 54. Yes, they are all progressive springs and if you look at the weight ratings they express capacity at 50% compression. Hope that helps!
@davidcoupland5134
@davidcoupland5134 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, these work. Tiffin ses them on their gas motor coaches "Open Range". You can also get something similar to these for your truck. They are called Timbren and they sell them on etrailer. Gives a smoother ride and help with squat. Like airbags but much cheaper. Glad you did the review.
@SuperSpringsInternational
@SuperSpringsInternational 5 жыл бұрын
We started our business 20+ years ago in the work truck industry. We make products for work trucks and recreational trucks / vehicles as well. :-)
@CatFoodDraino
@CatFoodDraino Жыл бұрын
A few years ago I got these on my 32’ 2019 class c. They were very nice and I’d recommend to all who have a c or gas class a…I now have a diesel ;) but sumo springs along with upgrade sway Bar and sterling stabilizer are worth weight in gold
@ericball6652
@ericball6652 5 жыл бұрын
I put a set on the rear of my F350 and they did level the cornering. For RVs, the could help if you lost a wheel so you could tow to somewhere for repair without the remaining tire hitting the under carriage.
@SuperSpringsInternational
@SuperSpringsInternational 5 жыл бұрын
That's right on Eric. I have a 2016 F250 and I have these on both my truck and trailer!
@Daz5Daz
@Daz5Daz 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos have been killing it lately!
@windrider65
@windrider65 5 жыл бұрын
A little on the high side, but I guess some of the price is the ease of install. Great information 👍. Oh, I finally found my keys.
@MarsOG310
@MarsOG310 3 жыл бұрын
Im sold. Any bounce and body roll reduction is totally worth it IMO.
@LivinRVision
@LivinRVision 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Thanks for sharing! 😊
@DCabo
@DCabo 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Did some more research used your discount code and placed an order.
@SuperSpringsInternational
@SuperSpringsInternational 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your business Raymond!
@TheJirish
@TheJirish 5 жыл бұрын
Jared, nice KYD hat! Thanks for the review. Easy install, but a little pricey.
@MikeC19100
@MikeC19100 3 жыл бұрын
Great recap of these add-on support springs. As of today, Amazon has these springs listed at $247.99 for a pair of them. JD with Big Truck Big RV did a couple videos on them too. He had Dexter Axels which has a larger top bracket and may require using 4 inch bolts instead of the 3 1/2 " bolt that comes with the pair. I like your hat in this video as I have the exact same one and enjoy wearing it too.
@kimberlysmith7540
@kimberlysmith7540 5 жыл бұрын
We put Timbren SES's on our truck and like them
@leesims
@leesims 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jared, How are you liking the Sumo Springs? Still working good? I am considering purchasing 2 pairs. Just like your thoughts after a few months use. Thanks Lee
@juliesummerfield9784
@juliesummerfield9784 4 жыл бұрын
Agree! I would more info after using them a while. I want to consider these, right after wet bolt upgrade. We have a rear slide out that I hear can have issues with tracks on ceiling when in tow etc. I thought maybe some shock-absorbing and suspension improvements might be a good idea. I am trying to be proactive before we have issues. I want this trailer to last a long time! I would really like to know how you like them and if it is something you would "spring" for if you weren't getting the opportunity to review them.
@hughvines4585
@hughvines4585 5 жыл бұрын
I have found that going by the tire manufacturer states on tire pressure helped mine more than anything else although I did do other things some $2000 worth but nothing helped like tire pressure. That’s on class A
@jasonholbert6529
@jasonholbert6529 5 жыл бұрын
Can you give a update on these. Are you still liking them do you still feel that they help.
@andycommonsincanada
@andycommonsincanada Жыл бұрын
Just installed them on our Alliance Valor 40 V 13 toy hauler and they have made a difference. Very easy to install. Worth $300 ? I’ll get back to you on that once we have driven a lot more with them on rough roads.
@dru-annehartley279
@dru-annehartley279 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. Love the hat
@JMyers9518
@JMyers9518 5 жыл бұрын
Are you wearing a KYD cap?
@markharvey7988
@markharvey7988 4 жыл бұрын
You mention more than once that these are not for overload purposes, so concerning wheel hop, would installing shocks not accomplish the same thing? My trailer already has shocks so I cannot say what the expense would be for those who don't to install them, but I expect that it would be similar if maybe a little less. I CAN tell you that shocks make a HUGE difference in trailer hop and tracking. From what I've seen these springs only come into play after a certain amount of spring flex, where shocks dampen bounce through the whole spectrum. Perhaps that could be a future subject, the difference between an overload spring and shocks...
@KeepOnRvn
@KeepOnRvn 5 жыл бұрын
Cool these work for you.
@tomkeightley4036
@tomkeightley4036 3 жыл бұрын
Question; It is said that RVs experience a mini earthquake every time you take them out...Do you feel the Sumo Springs reduce that effect?
@jcf6597
@jcf6597 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, have you ever thought about adding a decent set of shocks to your fifth wheel? They're also suppose to make quite a difference.
@RaceMentally
@RaceMentally 5 жыл бұрын
JC F they will. Problem is most aren’t properly mounted.
@jeffforbess6802
@jeffforbess6802 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder how installed cost (out-the-door) cost would compare? Might even out. Are these kinda like advanced bump stops?
@mikealexander4249
@mikealexander4249 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos..... Do you see any benefit to running these as well as SRE4000 equalizers? our trailer already as the equalizer upgrade and was wondering about these....
@jbs6370
@jbs6370 3 жыл бұрын
It has been a while since the upgrade. How have is it going? Still happy? Any lessons learned? Would you recommend? Have you considered upgrading to disc brakes? Thanks
@mariab.owenby354
@mariab.owenby354 5 жыл бұрын
It is expensive for sure but I will consider to buy . (just not now )
@juliojames5986
@juliojames5986 3 жыл бұрын
What about the superior Travel Trailer ? Tandem axle could be the same ?
@karenrobertson890
@karenrobertson890 5 жыл бұрын
Nice hat!
@adamcloyd8201
@adamcloyd8201 5 жыл бұрын
Between the road master shock absorbers or this product which do you feel would do a better job of protecting the interior of a rig while improving ride quality?
@bobgrabowski2232
@bobgrabowski2232 2 жыл бұрын
are these available for a 2018 Riverside retro 285FK?
@jeffbooth7908
@jeffbooth7908 3 жыл бұрын
Does it matter if they are installed inside the axles like you have them ? or outside of the axles like I’ve seen on other videos? From what I’ve seen no one has said anything about that . Also thank you for all the videos and information. . You do a great job and explain everything very well keep up the great work thanks again.
@terryjensen72
@terryjensen72 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 Keystone Carbon 364. GVRW at 17000. First time I pulled it loaded with a washer and dryer and Harley softail in the rear and with a 2015 F350 regular cab single rear wheel it was terrifying. Couldn’t go over 60mph or it sway like an improperly loaded car trailer. Seems like my camper should have had 3 axles. Heavy in the tail and on the tongue. I upgraded to a 2017 F350 crew cab dually. Big improvement but still more sway then I liked so I upgraded trailer tires from 10 ply to 14👍 way better but trailer still bounces like it’s to heavy for its springs. Next I installed the Joy Rider shock system and a wet bolt kit. Factory plastic bushings were shot with only 2000 miles. My trailer handles like a dream now however it still seems to heavy for the 7k springs and I recently purchased a can am side by side I mite barely be able to fit in the garage with the Harley . Regardless, I need helper springs or heavier springs. Mite have to get a hitch and pull side by side behind. If I ever get another trailer it’s gonna be a triple axel or entirely smaller and not a toyhauler and leave my toys at home. $600 seems really high. I’d think I could buy new and heavier leaf spring packs for less
@SuperSpringsInternational
@SuperSpringsInternational 5 жыл бұрын
Wow Terry you have quite the setup! Sounds awesome! The price on these is more like $400, and install is DIY. With the discount code from All About RVs you're looking to be right at $400 out the door for spring over axle. New leafs are a great option, but of course, that's a much more involved installation. Additionally, you wouldn't be getting the vibration reduction, shock absorption, and sway mitigation you get from SumoSprings. Whatever route you go, we hope you journey better!! :-)
@terryjensen72
@terryjensen72 5 жыл бұрын
SuperSprings I ordered two sets today from E trailer. I hope they help . Since I already installed the Joy rider shock system, I will have to cut off the folding over flap on one side of yr Super spring mounting bracket and drill and bolt it to the upper bracket/top plate of the shock kit . Tip for anyone else. Buy a triple axle trailer
@SuperSpringsInternational
@SuperSpringsInternational 5 жыл бұрын
@@terryjensen72 thank you for your business!
@DavidJones-de9zh
@DavidJones-de9zh 5 жыл бұрын
So do these in anyway help with rocking back and forth when parked. Even when stabilizers are down do these help? Thank you
@geoffmooregm
@geoffmooregm 5 жыл бұрын
Doubtful. They are still a type of spring. The best route is using X Chocks. They actually act like a brake. Then add another pair of stabilizer jacks in front of the axle pair in order to take the spring out of the middle of the RV. They don't have to be as heavy as the ones on the 4 corners because you won't use them for Leveling.
@AllAboutRVs
@AllAboutRVs 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t expect them to help when parked. The thing that helped the most for that is the Steadyfast system we installed. It is so quick to tighten down and by far has been the best for stability. We have a video on it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIiqiKqDeL2gncU
@RaceMentally
@RaceMentally 5 жыл бұрын
Geoff Moore these will only help when loaded. With no load on them they’re not doing anything. Great product if installed properly.
@remitremblay2091
@remitremblay2091 5 жыл бұрын
Great video again. How do these compare to shocks? We have had quite a few adventures with our TT, and axles, that we had to change 2 times in 7 years of usage...and have now gone to the better axles and shocks install. We feel the difference, but we are still feeling the thing in the back of the truck... Thanks! Remi, Montréal, Qc.
@RaceMentally
@RaceMentally 5 жыл бұрын
Remi Tremblay shocks dampen while these are another set of springs that take rate and don’t release it like a normal coil or leaf spring. Great product and a must have in our opinion. Btw we build suspension systems for race cars and have a trailer repair facility.
@jeffpowell7633
@jeffpowell7633 2 жыл бұрын
anything for 2017 fr3 28ds
@jimc.6127
@jimc.6127 5 жыл бұрын
The technology has been around for decades. My question would be, does it affect my tires? The most vulnerable part of my r.v.
@SuperSpringsInternational
@SuperSpringsInternational 5 жыл бұрын
It won't impact your tires generally, but it will reduce travel from the frame down to the leaf pack if you ever blow a tire.
@RaceMentally
@RaceMentally 5 жыл бұрын
Jim C. It will increase wheel loading. Does that affect tires? Yes but minimal in this application. As long as they’re spaced properly while hooked up you’re fine. Great product.
@theresapatton9239
@theresapatton9239 4 жыл бұрын
@all about rv"s I see this video was made back in Sept 2019 But I had a question about the Torflex Tandem axles on our 2020 Palomino Solaire 320tsbh. We have an outdoor kitchen in the rear and have noticed a ton of bounce while pulling. I know the first question is What is the total weight (from our stuff) added but honestly we just keep our outdoor chairs, RV shade shack tarp, a 32" TV in the rear bunk area. I would like your opinion on adding a Joy Ride shocks type setup to the rear of the frame by the axles.
@mrvic92154
@mrvic92154 5 жыл бұрын
Have you ever thought of flipping your axles to make your trailer higher, would you have any pros or cons to doing that, I have the same exact trailer, thanks
@markoliver474
@markoliver474 5 жыл бұрын
More please...
@rickellis922
@rickellis922 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jared! Enjoy all your videos-great job on this one. I’ve ordered and received two sets of the “black” heavier duty SumoSprings for our Jayco fifth wheel. However, the spring plate on our rig is 1/2” too wide for the SumoSpring clamp to fit over. I found out that Jayco, on some fifth wheels, is installing a wider plate to enable installation of shock absorbers. So, I will need to order four of the standard sized plates and replace what is currently on our rig. So here’s the question: have you ever taken a spring plate off for any reason? If so, what is the process (and BTW, my axles are below the leaf springs)? I’m thinking I need to raise one wheel off the ground, block up the axle so it doesn’t drop, then unbolt the plate and replace with the new one. Does that make sense, or do you have a better method? Again, thanks for all the great videos-so easy to understand and always helpful! Rick Ellis in Tyler, TX
@LeitchBlake
@LeitchBlake 3 жыл бұрын
Are you putting this on your new fifth wheel?
@AA-op1qr
@AA-op1qr 5 жыл бұрын
👍
@gsahlstrom
@gsahlstrom 5 жыл бұрын
Would you want/need these if your RV is already equipped with shocks on all 4 wheels?
@clintonschlutz2768
@clintonschlutz2768 Жыл бұрын
I'm currently looking into suspension upgrade for my jayco SLX. Do you or any one here have thoughts on morryde cree3000 or the roadarmor. My equalizer is a large triangle style with a 4" drop and a 6" width. This Is making I hard to find... Not sure how much tho width matters id I can go longer.. Thoughts?
@petdoctor3
@petdoctor3 4 жыл бұрын
Do they reduce stress on the springs and equalizer? Extend the life of springs and equalizer?
@AllAboutRVs
@AllAboutRVs 4 жыл бұрын
They should. If I remember each one was rated up to 500 pounds.
@SuperSpringsInternational
@SuperSpringsInternational 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely. They're taking on load and vibration that would be put on springs and components. -Adam
@papajack6537
@papajack6537 5 жыл бұрын
I can’t find any that I can use on a 1993 class A Winnebago itasca sunrise 29 foot with Chevy 454 frame
@Hundert1
@Hundert1 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if these are really worth that much money? And sometimes supposed upgrades can be worse in the long run.
@Shalako1946
@Shalako1946 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds a bit expensive, especially for those with 3 axles. Nice hat though...it looks familiar. ;-) Be safe, have fun, and happy camping. v/r, TS Denver, CO
@wrightharris4365
@wrightharris4365 5 жыл бұрын
Was thinking of installing these on my 27.1 Ace. However after researching , found the cost to be prohibitive. Instead I resorted to the very easy sway bar adjustment. Very easy to perform,made a huge difference and kept a ton of money in my pocket. Price should be drastically reduced considering what you’re getting. Should be more affordable for the average Joe. 🥺
@RaceMentally
@RaceMentally 5 жыл бұрын
Wright Harris Wait till you break your first spring. These are a must in our opinion.
@sk-wx1cf
@sk-wx1cf 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the new info. I have a single torsion axle, so don't think I can use something like this. Do these help when you're on a washboard surface? Does anything help on a washboard surface? Thanks.
@AllAboutRVs
@AllAboutRVs 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t see these working on torsion suspension.
@ScubaSteveCanada
@ScubaSteveCanada 5 жыл бұрын
Reduce the air pressure while driving the washboard. Make sure you carry a good, working compressor before doing that. It does help quite a bit. Also, finding the right speed will help (usually that speed is above the posted one).
@RaceMentally
@RaceMentally 5 жыл бұрын
s k you already have this technology on your axles. You have a progressive rate built into your axles like these in the video. If anything you can try to add shocks. But torsions give the best ride due to the spring rate on compression and rebound.
@georgegrierson
@georgegrierson 5 жыл бұрын
We don't have springs. We have torsion suspension on our trailer. So the question I have is this. Will this help with a torsion suspension system?
@AllAboutRVs
@AllAboutRVs 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t think these would work with torsion suspension.
@noahtramposh3350
@noahtramposh3350 5 жыл бұрын
cool product, but pricey for what you are getting.
@jcrusco1
@jcrusco1 5 жыл бұрын
What side of the axles do you place these? Outer or inner? Thank you.
@SuperSpringsInternational
@SuperSpringsInternational 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe - these typically go in the center for spring over axle setups. If you have spring under, you want to make sure the bracket is on the side of the axle closest to the end of the leaf spring that is connected to a shackle or center link. More info here www.supersprings.com/product-category/trailer-sumosprings/
@jefferycundiff3804
@jefferycundiff3804 5 жыл бұрын
Nice hat :)
@marshallhall6449
@marshallhall6449 5 жыл бұрын
Nice hat
@peterdement
@peterdement 5 жыл бұрын
How do these compare to shocks?
@RaceMentally
@RaceMentally 5 жыл бұрын
peterdement different. These are 100% better than shock. I’d do these first then add shocks as well if you want to get carried away.
@NoWay-xu1ie
@NoWay-xu1ie Жыл бұрын
Do they take much weight off the leaf springs ?
@rebekahwells3737
@rebekahwells3737 5 жыл бұрын
How about class C?
@SuperSpringsInternational
@SuperSpringsInternational 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Rebekah, if you visit our site you'll see the other applications we make - which include a lot of Class A, B, and C!
@timf6916
@timf6916 5 жыл бұрын
Nice BUT $ 600.00 is a little OUCH
@Hundert1
@Hundert1 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, they just don't look like they should be so expensive. Plus, he doesn't really say they make such an enormous improvement.
@RaceMentally
@RaceMentally 5 жыл бұрын
Google1 User they will improve. They’re an assisted spring rate. Great idea and that’s coming from a suspension tuner.
@realamericanpatriots1919
@realamericanpatriots1919 5 жыл бұрын
As a mechanic, these are dampers, plain and simple. Most vehicles have "bump stops" installed from factory that help prevent bottoming out your suspension. These simply raise the "bump point" to dampen sway.
@SuperSpringsInternational
@SuperSpringsInternational 5 жыл бұрын
that's right - similar to a bump stop, these come in as weight is applied. To your point, the design is to come in earlier to give support sooner. The big difference other than that is material. Bump stops are dampers are made from a dense rubber. They are there to prevent bottoming out. SumoSprings are made from microcellular polyurethane, and provide a progressive spring rate unlike rubber stops.
@briancc2100
@briancc2100 Жыл бұрын
It's a bumpstop
@MrJKCummings
@MrJKCummings 5 жыл бұрын
I was really interested until I heard the price! Ouch! $600 for my Travel Trailer? No way! I haven't noticed enough 'roll' or 'bounce' to warrant that price.
@RaceMentally
@RaceMentally 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. J.K. Cummings wait till your first broken spring and you spend more on damages and repairs. This is a must have in my opinion and we serviced thousands of trailers per year.
@64maxpower
@64maxpower 5 жыл бұрын
Damping. Not dampening Damping is the resistance in the stroke of a shock shaft through which it travels. Dampening is what happens to your underwear when a tractor-trailer passes you doing 80 while you have a 40 mile-an-hour crosswind
@usmcfrommt9790
@usmcfrommt9790 5 жыл бұрын
Under-rated comment
@ibMoose2u
@ibMoose2u 5 жыл бұрын
Hahahhahahahhaahahahahha omg soooo true
@SuperSpringsInternational
@SuperSpringsInternational 5 жыл бұрын
🤣
@lesshousemorehome2544
@lesshousemorehome2544 5 жыл бұрын
Kind of funny just did a quick look at the definition of dampening (Dampen) and one of the definitions is : make less strong or intense. Which fits, I see what your saying but words have more than one definition per word.
@raybbj
@raybbj 5 жыл бұрын
$600 USD ???? That's way too much. I wonder how these compare to joy rider or LCI shocks. I like the simplicity of the install, but $600 ????? Joyrider or LCI shocks are much cheaper.
@Hundert1
@Hundert1 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, 600 bucks, OMG my friend bought and entire RV for that much. Thanks for the tip on the cheaper gadgets. I'll look into them. Prost
@RaceMentally
@RaceMentally 5 жыл бұрын
raybbj shocks are different that these springs. We service thousands of trailers yearly and these pay for themselves. If you haven’t broke a spring yet you will in time. These help reduce spring arc and shock to the entire running train. Shocks dampen while these are springs.
@erhodes352
@erhodes352 5 жыл бұрын
Race Mentally - So can you install these AND shocks? Or do these make shocks unnecessary? I’m trying to find something to help with our 40ft 5th wheel bouncing horribly out of control on the terrible California roadways. I was thinking shocks but these seem much easier to install so I’m considering them.
@RaceMentally
@RaceMentally 5 жыл бұрын
Eric If we had a choice of one to go with I’d go with these vs shocks. The shock kits I’ve seen from factory are garage. If they’re a stud to stud straight shaft mount they’re engineered improperly and break often. Have an Artic Fox in the shop now with that issue. You would want an eye to eye type shock where bolts go through the rubber/urethane shock mount. Also, the shock valving is key to a smooth ride. We install a custom kit with shocks made for motor homes which have a higher force number to the velocity. This type of suspension add on in the video takes rate and doesn’t release the stored energy like a coil spring or leaf spring. A shock helps with the controlling spring rate/wheel loading on compression and rebound on a typical spring set up. This kit I see working as it should and very well. The only con on this kit I can see is possibly the springs weather cracking over time and or them wearing out from being over compressed and splitting. I’d want these on my trailer. All of my trailers are torsion axles though which act somewhat the same as this. Where in California are you located?
@erhodes352
@erhodes352 5 жыл бұрын
Race Mentally - Thanks for the info. We are in Sonoma County north of SF. We often tow through the East Bay (Oakland, Berkeley, etc) and the freeways are horrible. It shakes the 5er like crazy and makes stuff fly around and jar is in the truck. And that’s going 55-60 mph at most so not driving crazy. I know nothing will make it smooth as glass but I need to do something to help. For my sanity and the longevity of the RV.
@22howards
@22howards 5 жыл бұрын
As far as sway going down the road I would like to see you do a review on air tabs because I’ve heard nothing but good about them (except price). For stability and sway maneuvering I think we could modify a set of air springs for less than $300.00 per axle. As always Jared, your reviews are spot on but I believe I will pass on this one. Just my opinion.
@peggyhaines7394
@peggyhaines7394 5 жыл бұрын
Chip Saunders but you don’t have to worry about air bags leaking or bursting.
@RaceMentally
@RaceMentally 5 жыл бұрын
Chip Saunders no one will be able to give you a comparison on bags vs these. I have the tools to give actual data on their rates but we also build million dollar race cars and use this technology. Way better than bags and easier to install and maintain.
@shhall1980
@shhall1980 5 жыл бұрын
Does this help with chucking? That is the fore and aft movement. My 5th wheel chucks more than I like and I have been looking at these hoping it will help. I don't have enough room for air bags and I don't have an air cushion hitch.
@SuperSpringsInternational
@SuperSpringsInternational 5 жыл бұрын
This will help with some of the chucking in the trailer. Most of that chuck however typically occurs when the weight transfers from the rear of the truck to the front of the truck. I have SumoSprings on my F250 in the front and rear, and that addressed most of the chucking - with no maintenance or air required.
@kellyblock9745
@kellyblock9745 5 жыл бұрын
Timbren's do the same thing for half the price.
@SuperSpringsInternational
@SuperSpringsInternational 5 жыл бұрын
We love Timbren. Great company and great people! But, they don't make a product that goes over the leaf pack of a trailer like this - at least not yet :-)
@unclelala4216
@unclelala4216 5 жыл бұрын
Too much money! $300 maybe.
@RaceMentally
@RaceMentally 5 жыл бұрын
unclelala wait till your first broken spring repair. You’ll be sorry for not having these.
@ltcajh
@ltcajh 4 жыл бұрын
@@RaceMentally Not a hard job to change a spring.
@RaceMentally
@RaceMentally 4 жыл бұрын
ltcajh glad you have spares with you.
@tigman47
@tigman47 5 жыл бұрын
Never a good Idea to focus load in a small area of your frame, Esspecially the Light I beam type frames in RV's...These make me ALOT of money every year repairing the folded lower frames in Campers... In the spring and suspension Bussiness since 1912, seen alot of these bandaides, watch the video you show of the sumo working and the frame flexing .. Just My Opinion but they will cost you in the end, And thanks for all the good Information you share
@geoffmooregm
@geoffmooregm 5 жыл бұрын
True. I would weld a thick pad or bars to the frame, if I had to use them. On my trailer wherever there is a spring hanger there is a brace welded in the frame. However I find the springs are TOO stiff. If anything there should be one leaf for locating the axle and then air bags above every spring for variable load carrying capacity and then an automotive style shock to control oscillation. This would give a controlled ride rather than the bouncy trailer ride. Especially when empty!
@tigman47
@tigman47 5 жыл бұрын
@@geoffmooregm Shocks would really be the way to go IF you can Fabricate mounts, Most if not all shocks on Towables are at way to much of an angle to help much, Shocks do not Carry any Load used properly ,And at a near vertical angle to suspension motion, but do control the things Sumo Touts, without forcing the load into a tiny area of the frame which is EXACTLY what they are doing ..
@geoffmooregm
@geoffmooregm 5 жыл бұрын
@@tigman47 I could easily do it on mine and get quite a long shock. Yes it would definatly take some fab work. One day!
@RaceMentally
@RaceMentally 5 жыл бұрын
tigman47 sorry but you’re incorrect. We service thousands of trailers yearly and these actually help tremendously. We’ve even done pull down load testing as we have a full service race shop. You’re behind on the times my friend.
@SuperSpringsInternational
@SuperSpringsInternational 4 жыл бұрын
@@RaceMentally shoot us your test info, we'd love to see it! adam@supersprings.com
@geoffowens4622
@geoffowens4622 5 жыл бұрын
Far too expressive for what you get. Roll and bounce, sway or whatever you want to call it, it’s just not that big of problem for me to justify the cost. In the $600 category I have a lot of other things that I need to do in that cost range. I appreciate the discount but unfortunately at $510 price, it’s still way beyond what I would spend for that problem. Maybe it’s a bigger issue with other types of vehicles but not mine.
@AllAboutRVs
@AllAboutRVs 5 жыл бұрын
I agree they were a bit on the pricey side and they noticed many people saying that in this video and dropped the price to $199 a pair. Our RV already felt good, probably like yours but thought we would give them a try as they are a new product for towable RVs and thought there might be some out there that might be looking for something like this.
@RaceMentally
@RaceMentally 5 жыл бұрын
Geoff Owens wait till you break a spring. You’ll spend more than that. It’s not what you think you know it’s what I know.
@havfunwithit
@havfunwithit 4 жыл бұрын
I’m new to RV camping. I’v always tent camped but I’m getting older and no longer can sleep on the ground. What I leaned from my first year is that ALL RVs are junk. The dealers are horrible and will lie to you at every chance. Before you buy think about the cost of the truck, RV, gas and campground fee. You can get a room cheaper at Disney World for less than a campsite. That money you spent can buy a lot of hassle free vacations. And you won’t have buyers regret after you get swindled. Today’s RVs are so cheaply made they come apart on the road. They are dangerous and even the tires are called China bombs by experienced RV owners.
@AllAboutRVs
@AllAboutRVs 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you are able to get your issues sorted out. Some RVs are not as well built as others and a good majority of dealers struggle in the service department. I hope you’re able to see the side of RVing that is amazing.
@SPACFORCEAI
@SPACFORCEAI 5 жыл бұрын
First your mortgage your home, then buy these.....
@davidmcconnell8690
@davidmcconnell8690 5 жыл бұрын
:-)) :-))
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