Simple to understand MOA vs MIL optics

[@guitarH100]

I have 13 years of undergraduate and graduate training and you are a great teacher. I sought out education on MOA vs MIL and you struck gold with your video. Thank you.

[@tafaragadze6432]

Can you re-explain it to me

[@plowmaster1206]

​@@tafaragadze6432only after 20 years more training. The irony in more education, the more they feel the need to express how much more theyre educated, because obviously education dosent speak for itself

[@HARLEYMLM1966]

Wow, 13 years of school

[@higherlifts420]

​@@HARLEYMLM1966he parades around the streets asking for student loan forgives telling people to vote for Biden

[@Thecorrector3000]

@@higherlifts420It’s pretty sad to make this political

[@mo-po]

Sir, I just came here for research, and I thought I was losing it up until now. Thank you!

[@hedge7743]

I wish I had seen this year's ago. Everyone turns your simple explanation into cold Fusion. Great job. So simple a Safety Director can understand! (That's big time if you don't know...)

[@danno1800]

Thanks so much for displaying the difference - helps me make a choice between the same scope - one is MOA the other is MIL. I had no idea the difference. I now plan to buy the MIL. Thanks again - you have a gift for explaining complicated things in terms we can all understand!

[@alexmook6786]

This man is pure gold. So knowledgeable and I have learned so much. Best gun expert on KZbin hands down.

[@thomaspoke8511]

MOA scope with MOA reticle (or MIL scope with MIL reticule) is the largest take-away from this excellent video. Ray is a great teacher. Pick a system and understand the system you choose.

[@XRING]

Thanks Thomas and thanks for watching.

[@bkennedy8]

Beginner here. Would companies sell a scope with an incompatible reticle? How could they stay in business? Are you saying we should open the box and look down the scope to make sure the reticle is compatible? I know it sounds like I am being a smart ass but I really don’t know, sorry. Is a mismatch a mistake or a scam, knowing some people will never return the scope?

[@Rowrin]

Man, if I had a nickel for every time I've heard "You'll never need to know trig outside of high school" growing up. MOA -> Minutes of Angle -> 60th of degree -> 360 degrees in a circle Mil -> Milli-Radian -> 1000th of a radian -> 2π radians in a circle After that it's just SOH, CAH, TOA.

[@FormaAlert]

Basic maths (mainly trig and very very very simple quadratics) outside of school end up being really useful in life.

[@colb9916]

lol.. ohh man,, when ever i hear high school trig,all my brain comes up with is , X times 5 Y equels kevin .. :0 i much prefer Wild Bill Hickocks "triggernometry" that i can understand .. ;)

[@thedude6146]

My head hurts.

[@darrylryder8114]

Omg I'm an aircraft structures mechanic which means I learned that i needed more math to figure the dimensions of a flat sheet of aluminum to cut, then roll in 3 dimensions, adding the stretch and sometimes the shrink of the shin....😒😣

[@martincolvill5453]

What's trig? I barely got long division!

[@h.kleefvan6677]

Even from way down here, in the Netherlands, everything you said in this video about Mills and MOA was “loud and clear”. You did a real good job! Thanks for that, Huub van Kleef (66).

[@XRING]

Thanks H. Kleef! More great long range content on the channel.

[@rudymsmith]

Best description / talk between mil and moa yet - great job!!

[@XRING]

Thank you and thanks for watching.

[@armedrealtorakasheepdog6914]

You explained that in terms so simple that even a Realtor (a member of the National Association of Realtors) could understand. Granted, I had to watch it twice to fully absorb it... but by far the clearest and most concise explanation I have ever heard on the subject. Can you please do a similar video explanation on how women think?

[@XRING]

Hahahahahaha ! Now that is genuinely funny !

[@gordonkearney7356]

That Sir comes under a need to KNOW. Also your government has a special dept for just such a thing. You will never be allowed to live long enough to use the info contained within. The reason being the woman of your dreams will give you a headset to listen to the info. Then like mission impossible the headset will self destruct with a pound of C4. ???????

[@davejan744]

"HOW women think!" LMAO!! My mother explaned it best to me as a young man. Taught me "Never try to figure out what a womans going to do next because even THEY don't know!" Im 70 years old & found that to be absolutly true. Just expect the UNexpected & enjoy the ride. Jan can be crusing at 70 MPH & shift into reverse & make a right angle turn w NO warning. Used to drive me crazy. Now I just find it hilarious. Keeps ME on my toes!! 😁

[@MrGaryGG48]

Oh So Funny!! This kinda sorta reminds me of shopping in a grocery store with my wife. I used to frequently get in trouble for bumping her heels when she unexpectedly stopped or turned to inspect something on a nearby shelf. I was automatically guilty of not paying enough attention or I wouldn't have bumped her! My response was, "I'm going to hang a board across your butt with brake lights and turn signals!!" As you might expect, that wasn't particularly well received but I've determined that my most successful shopping technique with my dear wife is to just run down the windows and wait in the car! ;^) (I do get to read a lot of shooting magazines and she never complains about my inattention and her sore heels!)

[@neilblackman2965]

The Armed Realtor James Tiberius women come with different operating system installed from factory, and they don't understand it themselves. The manuals got lost in transit.

[@charlesmckinley29]

Someone who has mastered a topic can take a complex topic and explain it in simple terms. Thank you.

[@XRING]

Thank you Charles and thanks for commenting!

[@charlesmckinley29]

X-RING have to drive the numbers. 😉. I posted a link to the video on the Project Appleseed forum in a thread with an article on the same topic. Please check out appleseedinfo dot org and see if it is something you would like to help spread the word about. We need all the help we can get filling the lines. In Liberty, CM

[@XRING]

Thanks Charles I appreciate it. I will check it out.

[@Offpisteagain]

although this is three years old...it's without question the best explanation of the topic on the internet IMO and what i've found. thankyou.

[@mrcollins63]

One of the best explanation of the two types of Scopes.

[@XRING]

mrcollins63 Thank you Mrcollins and thanks for watching.

[@tomdavis780]

A simple & direct explanation presented in terms that alleviate the mystery of these terms...thank you for assisting a novice get a handle on these two important terms used in our sport. Bravo, Sir!

[@XRING]

Thank you Tom and thanks for watching. Have a great week.

[@jonathanseal5155]

Bloody great explanation…clear and concise, even for old farts who grew up in NZ on imperial, changed to metric in 1967, came to the US in 83( back to imperial), and been a contractor ever since… I had heard mutterings of Mils and MOA, but as a benchrest and varmint shooter, was either zeroed in, or held over. Now I am starting NRL, the need for knowing what the big knob with all the numbers on the top is for suddenly makes sense‼️ thank you for making it all instantly clear, and I realised I have an MOA scope, so all is good. I can see how the Mil system for ranging seems to be simpler, and more intuitive. Next scope will be in Mils👏👏👏👏

[@chicowize]

I had to come back to rewatch this. Thanks again. You did great breaking it down for unfamiliar folks like myself. Planning to change my unfamiliarity on this topic 👍🏽

[@petcatznz]

Great explanation thank you. I would like to add that using metric range measurements and mils works best for me. Mixing mils and yards complicates things slightly.

[@sisekomalukazi7174]

You are dangerous, I so wish I can listen or get more lessons from you. Thanks for differentiating MOA & MIL, here in South Africa we're using km's so it was really a challenge but I understand now through this video.... 🔥🔥🔥

[@codymitchell4781]

After dozens of videos this video was the most dumbed down version with the numbers I have been looking for! Thank you

[@ASkippingRock]

Just getting into long range shooting, building my first ar10. This was helpful, so glad I found your channel.

[@dhooter]

Get another rifle 👍

[@bnag0525]

Tried explaining this to a friend but unfortunately any time I try to explain things out loud my brain shuts down and I can’t articulate my thoughts lmao. But this was a very good way of simplifying it. I probably could have saved a year of my life a decade ago trying to understand it had I heard it from a great teacher like yourself!

[@XRING]

I appreciate you commenting and for watching the channel!

[@booneyrat75]

Thank you so very much for finally making this not such a daunting task to understand. Now I'm excited to get out and use my MRAD scope and my range finder.

[@XRING]

That is great Zora .Thank you for watching the channel!

[@mikeyb9819]

One of the best explanations of the two measurements I’ve yet to hear. Thanks for posting

[@jimedick9496]

I just watched this entire video, and I couldn’t tell you what was just said. I say that because I couldn’t take my eyes off the shelf in the back, and all the glorious goodies that my eyes gazed upon!!! My oh my. I felt like a kid in a candy store!!

[@kincaidantolin]

Great information for a beginner like me just getting into precision shooting. Cleared up all the confusion between both.

[@kevinroberts9580]

Very good analogies and a good job at making it very simple to understand. I never thought one was really better than the other, but people say that the mill reticle is just simpler to work with. I've never done much long distance shooting. Really no place to do that around here. Very good job X Ring

[@XRING]

Kevin Roberts Thank you Kevin!

[@Mvr01008]

Maybe the only video on KZbin that explains it simple! Keep up the great job!

[@TheRonald6524]

I’m just in the mitts of building a new rifle ! First time I’ve done this. And need a scope. Video was extremely helpful!!! I’m new to the sport of target shooting. But this rifle will be for my grandson!!! Great video!!!! 👍

[@onolicious9147]

This is good topic. I use both (MOA & Mil ) and both are easy and accurate. But I recommend NOT USING YARDS when using Milradian Optics. it's so much easier to use METERS (metric system). Everything is based on powers of 10 making very, very easy calculations as demonstrated by Bill Dickson. Also, my ultra long distance optics are all Milradian (less cranking on the turrets) including my spotting scope which has Mil reticle as well.

[@XRING]

Great points! Thanks for commenting and adding to the content.

[@sarahconner9433]

Good on you...I don't like mixed values

[@mohsenraghian210]

Interesting. Thanks for the explanation. I also started with MOA, when I was first introduced to firearms, rifles and the description of "MOA" at the time made sense to me. Not until I developed an interest in ELR and only concentrating on long distance capable rifles (I mean 1000+ yards to 2500 yards). And the more youtube videos of long distance shooters I watched I started gravitating toward MRAD scopes. Now, I mostly look for FFP, MRAD scopes with MRAD reticles. I must say though, the same power in a MRAD scope is more expensive than its counterpart in MOA. Sometimes it is not that significant of a difference, but as you get up to higher range scopes, then the difference is noticeable, at least from my own experience.

[@breakandrun70]

Best yet, I understood your explanation of MOA vs MIL better than I ever have. Thank you. Great video, have a day and stay safe.

[@WardBizzell]

Thank you. Excellent video and description. Seen several others trying to explain this and you finally put it into terms that made it "click."

[@MrCabimero]

Sir, you did a very good job of explaining this. I have never heard anyone explain this in a way that I could understand. Thank you!

[@Mountainchip]

Totally understandable explanation. Well done. METRIC RULES!

[@XRING]

Superer Dave Thanks Superer Dave and thanks for watching.

[@Smokeyr67]

I prefer driving at 100kph than at 60mph, but I prefer being 6ft tall instead of 180cms 😀

[@Daviswilder1]

Thank you for this video! Explained it better than anyone that's posted a video regarding this question. Cheers!

[@codyoslin6594]

Thank you Sir. I've tried to figure out what the difference between the two is. I've watched videos and I still didn't fully understand it until now. Your video was easy to comprehend and understand. Great video.

[@XRING]

Thank you Cody. I am glad you enjoyed the video. Have a great weekend sir!

[@timrosales1814]

Well while I was doing the math, my target ran away.

[@denniswyse6686]

That's funny

[@D70340]

LOL

[@Larry-bp4qh]

😂😂😂

[@PilatusTurbo]

Just starting to learn some very basic longer range stuff. I went and got a beginner's 3x9x40 with mil-dot and mil turrets (love turrets instead of finger adjust cap covers), and am reading up on mil. I just bore sighted the scope; looked through my bore and lined up the cross hair on the target which was about 100m away. At 100 yards a mil is about 3.6 inches, at 100 meters, it's about 3.9 inches. To make sure my initial 25 meter zero is good, I've found that doing the math this way works. 25 meters, a mil is about an inch. So 1/10th mil clicks, will be easy to compute. Need to move up half an inch? 5 clicks at 25 meters, and so on and so on. Move out to 100 meters, which is where I want this AR zeroed (yes, I know, it's an AR not a bolt gun xD), and then 5 clicks will be about 2 inches. Obviously, beyond 100 meters, that rough estimate for ease of math will fall apart, but I believe I'm onto something. Let me know if that makes sense, or if I'm completely not following, here. Thanks! BTW, Your video is quite nice. Unassuming, and very to the point without being a dick about it. Subbed :)

[@TheCHRISGIBBS0470]

Thank you , you have taken all the confusion out of every vid I have watched on the subject .... Excellent !

[@XRING]

Thanks Chris and thanks for watching the channel.

[@Jurnymn]

Good vid. I made the switch to MRAD today and got a Nikon FX 1000. Now I get to learn all the nuances of the new math. Challenge accepted.

[@XRING]

Jurnymn You will love it!

[@Jurnymn]

Subscribed, I look forward to learning more.

[@XRING]

Jurnymn Thank you Jurnymn! Some great content out there.

[@tonythebubble3703]

Ok after a bit more research I get it. The important point is that 1 milliradian is 1/1000 of the distance you’re measuring (ie. distance to target). So if your target is is at 1000 yards, 1 mil is 1 yard. If your distance is 1000 meters, 1 mil is 1 meter. So that bit is simple. The not-so-simple bit is that if you’re measuring yards, at 1000 yards 1 mil is 1 yard, which is 36 inches, so 0.1 mil is 3.6 inches. So moa is still easier to work with because you get whole numbers as a starting point when you’re looking at 100/200/300/1000 yards etc. But then 1 moa at 100 yards is not exactly 1” (it’s 1.04”). At the shorter distances it’s close enough, but once you start getting past 1000 yards you probably have to take that into account if you want to stay really accurate. The advantage of mils though is that you can use a mil-dot reticle to estimate your distance. The mil-dot reticle is split into known mil-measures - the dots are 1 mil apart, and each dot is 0.2 mils diameter. So if you know the height of your target you can use the reticle to convert that height into mils, and once you have that height you can work out what height 1 mil is at that distance, multiply that by 1000 and you have your distance to target. So, in summary, moa is simpler if you know your distance, but if you have a mil-dot scope and do the math, you can work your your distance to target. So the fundamental advantage of milliradians over minute of angle is that milliradians are always 1/1000 of the distance you’re measuring, regardless of whether that distance is in meters or yards or inches or feet. You could probably reverse-calculate the distance in moa but it looks like nobody makes an “moa-dot” scope, and most rangefinders work with mils.

[@PunzL]

The key takeaway here is that metric units just make more sense.

[@XRING]

I know, I just reviewed the Howa 1500 with that same scope. Makes it a little harder to do holdovers with such a big range in the reticle.

[@XRING]

Paolo Gallardo I personally think that if you are intending on getting into long range competitions you will be much better off going with mils. If you are just looking at shooting from a bench and just ringing steels then one isn’t better than the other. You should really subscribe and check out my channel. I have a LOT of long range content in there including long range competition related content. I always try to answer all comments. Thanks for your questions.

[@robertboyd3863]

@@PunzL Metric has never made sense to me, just a matter of what you are used to

[@damo.77]

The point in which mil becomes difficult for Americans is where you guys still want to talk in inches and yards, it just doesn't correlate well with a mil scope. If you moved into the 21st century and adopted the metric system then you would instantly see how much simpler mil is to use and understand. Not having a dig at Americans at all but thats just the facts of it.

[@davidybarra5848]

Excellent explanation. From someone that knows that difference, this makes it very easy for anyone to understand.

[@terryferebee8522]

Thank you finally someone explained it to where I can understand it

[@daviddiaz1157]

I actually understood this after months of searching what each one meant this finally makes sense

[@XRING]

Thanks David Diaz. I tried to keep things simple. Lots of good information on the channel about long range shooting if you ever become interested. Thanks for watching!

[@daviddiaz1157]

@@XRING well ur doing a hell of a good job and yeah I shoot long range with my .22 lr I shoot out to 400 yards but I just hold off high but after seeing this video I now realize my scope is a mil type of scope and know the math thanks dude!!

[@XRING]

My pleasure David.

[@richardcampbell5762]

You explained it much better than I could ever do it. Going to make a couple of my buddies watching video. Great video thank you.

[@netsurfers9357]

I run a Burris Fullfield IV 6-24x50mm Hunting Rifle Scope. This is what made the most sense to me on quality at the price with long range. CRS MOA on a POF-308 that I use for hunting. I like precision that is more exact.

[@carlwheeler3403]

Great video. I was a Mil-Dot man for decades until I sat down and did the math for MOA and the simplicity of MOA sold me on it. I still have Mil-Dot scopes but I buy only MOA scopes now. Yes, turning the turrets can be cumbersome but I use Holdover to compensate. So, the benefit for me is that MOA provides quick and easy mental math, no calculator needed.

[@Johnsormani]

The biggest issue with all the shooters that are used to yards and inches have with mrad is that they want to calculate it back to yards and inches. That just doesn’t work well , I agree with you. But if you see the logic of having a 10th of a value in stead of a fourth etc and get used to using meters it’s getting so much more locical to use mrad, because it is precise. With MOA the biggest mistake is made with rounding off to the 1 “ at 100 yards , which is already a 5% error. Transport that error to 500 yards or more and you will only miss

[@imeprezime1069]

To simplify furthermore: MOA -> if you use inches (USA) MIL -> if you use meters (Everything else)

[@XRING]

Not exaclty. We use yards in the US but mils for most of PRS style shooting.

[@fritzd2116]

I like your explanation. Elegant, as us engineers like to say! Subscribed to your channel.

[@garyhenderson6504]

Excellent video. I just happened to be looking at new scopes for a high-end PCP rifle. The choice was down to one scope using MOA, and one using MIL. I just ordered the one using the MIL dot reticle (and I checked-it has MIL click adjustments). Thanks for the clarification and the help.

[@SgtBooker44]

That was about the easiest explanation I have seen. Thanks for making it understandable. I subbed

[@XRING]

SgtBooker44 Thanks SgtBooker and thank’s for subscribing!

[@jh5869]

Thanks X Ring. I’ve been hunting and shooting since I was 10 years old, and often wondered what the difference is. Now that we’re trying to shoot out to 1000 yards, it’s imperative to understand. 🤠😎

[@XRING]

JH586 Yes it is JH586! Thanks for watching.

[@christoFlair777]

Excellent information my friend!! Well done!! I just learned!! That learning is good 😎

[@murffyslaw001]

A very concise video, Sir. Very simply put, easy to understand!

[@RuggedSportsmen]

Thanks for breaking it down. I also grew up with MOA scopes. Everyone told me I needed to go to mil to compete because theres a reason everyone uses mils. When I went to my first PRS match the course of fire was all written down in yardage. Made it simpler to not have to convert haha.

[@billking698]

BRO !...THAT WAS AN AWESOME EXPLANATION !!..NOW I GOT TO CHECK OUT ALL MY OPTICS AND SEE IF I HAVE A MIL RETICLE OR MOA...I DON'T GET TO SHOOT MUCH SINCE ALL THE YANKEE'S MOVED DOWN TO FLA AND BUILT HOMES EVERYWHERE 😖.... 30-40 YEARS AGO I USED TO BE ABLE TO HOP IN MY TRUCK AND DRIVE 10 MINUTES AND GO SHOOTING. NOT ANYMORE...BUMMER...ANYWAYS THX FOR THIS VIDEO !

[@yves9893]

This video is super informative and very, very well done, thanks! I subscribed to the channel after watching the first 30 seconds and I'll make sure to come back to watch other content.

[@XRING]

Thank you Yves and thank you for subscribing to the channel.!

[@D70340]

I`m in my 70`s, and not much farther in life to go. So by the time MOA scopes are gone, i`ll be long gone before that happens. I dont see me converting to MIL anytime to soon. Hell at my age, i`m just happy to still see thru a scope let alone buying a new fancy one like you kids use today, lol. Damn good tutorial though!!! Respect, Sir!!!

[@sieve5]

That WALL of reloading supplies is so awesome.

[@maccliff2115]

Great Video. Easy to understand. Thank you for posting this information! I got a lot out of this because I’m going to be purchasing a scope soon. Thank you.

[@XRING]

My pleasure MAC CLIFF. Thanks for watching.

[@TopDedCenter1]

Your explanation made it 'click' for me. Thank you!

[@bubblehead7680]

Lol. I am currently driving a truck that came from Canada down here in Texas. The trucks (2011) speedometer is in kilometers. I totally relate.

[@bryannelson315]

Nice video. We competed in long range challenges until we found PRS. The one thing you didn’t touch on was “calling”. The spotter may not know what scope the shooter has. If the match allows calls, we call in “plate” or “target”. If the shooter misses a half plate left. The call is hold half plate right…. Simple, quick, usually effective. If the shooter is way off due to low skill or stupidity, we mortar them in. “Come up 4 plate and 2 plates left”. We all have won several times (LRC only) and found the other competitor have adapted to it.

[@XRING]

Bryan Nelson Great information Bryan! I usually do the same thing when I am spotting for friends who aren’t “into” the long range game.....yet anyway! 😂 Thanks again and thanks for watching.

[@alpine9996]

All you have to know is that each MOA is 1 inch at 100 yards and the MOA Turret should be in 1/4 (0.25 inch) MOA clicks. at 100 yards, each 1/4 (0.25 inch) MOA click of the turret will move the bullet 0.25 inch. At 1000 yards, with each click, the bullet will move 2.5 inches. With the MilDot scope, each Mil is 3.6 inches at 100 yards and the mil turret should be in 1/10 mil increments (clicks). Each click of the mil turret will move the bullet 1/10 of 3.6 inches (0.36 inches) at 100 yards. At 1000 yards, each 1/10 mil dot click will move the bullet 3.6 inches.

[@XRING]

Precisely! Well summarized Jeff.

[@45auto]

Wish tou had explained the mils using cm. So, at 100m one click of the turret will move the crosshair 1 cm? And at 1000m it will move it 10cm?

[@markrosinski4814]

@@45auto at 100m one click of the Mill turret will move the crosshair 10 cm And at 1000m it will move it 100cm

[@lenholt7419]

Great seeing you on on WMMF sure look forward to reviewing all your material. Always learning more every day.

[@archangel20031]

13 seconds in and I have to say that's one fine reloading room with proper storage! I just figure the Max Point blank range of a 6" circle (usually 300 to 400 yards) and set it for that so no matter what, my bullet will impact inside that 6" circle, and use Kentucky windage for closer or further shots, but rarely have to shoot that far.

[@markpaolino4264]

When we plot fire missions in the field artillery we use mils, reason being the range of an artillery round travels thousands of yards, so you want a finer accuracy.

[@Thamac15]

How is mil more accurate than moa for artillery over long distance? I’m ignorant, just wanting to know.

[@blickygobrrrrr]

Very clear and to the point. Thanks for the great video!

[@XRING]

Thanks Kyle! My pleasure

[@Johnny_Benson]

MY GOD!!! Finally someone to break it down for my in simple terms! You rock and are officially on my Xmas card mailer list.

[@XRING]

Thank you John and thanks for watching!

[@tommydowning]

Love the channel, first time rifle owner, and looking forward to all the learning-X-Ring is a great channel!

[@XRING]

tommydowning Thank you tommydowning. I really appreciate it.

[@chancecarlton8403]

So easy to understand, very well done. Thank you.

[@XRING]

My pleasure Chance! Thanks for watching .

[@peytonnorris7244]

Whenever you hear it explains like that it is far easier to understand thank you so very much or a simple explanation

[@brucewilliams3261]

The one actual advantage to milliradian scopes is in range estimation. With a mil scope, you simply measure the height of a known object in mils and then plug into the formula (Target height in UNITS) x 1000/(Target height in MILS) = (Target range in UNITS). This works for *any* UNITS: yards, meters, inches, etc. Just use the SAME UNITS for the known target height and resulting target range. With a MOA reticle the formula is harder to remember as it involves a constant: (Target height in YARDS) x 2.65/(Target height in MOA) = (Target range in YARDS). Not too difficult to remember the formula when using mils; you're going to need to write down the formula MOA a bunch of times before you can memorize it and if you want to use different units the "2.65" will change accordingly.

[@scottf.3808]

Really good series as love to learn more as you have a very simple breakdown of info that hits home for me so thanks...Good stuff...

[@topoff33]

Excellent explanation, Thank you for the clarity!!!

[@yeti227]

Why is this only video like this? I thought I messed up by buying an MRAD optic from Vortex but I see this is okay. Now I'd like a video on Zeroing an MRAD optic!! Thanks a bunch for the easy explination

[@TheJetlife94]

I just bought my first MRAD scope from vortex as well and after watching a few videos I KIND of understand it. I plan on zeroing at 100 yards. So this is strictly for 100 yards. First understand: ONE click = 0.1 mil which equals 0.36 inches at 100 yards. To complete 1 MIL it takes 10 clicks in whatever direction you need to go. TEN clicks = 1 mil which equals 3.6 inches at 100 yards. So to adjust your reticle i found the easiest way is to multiply each click by 0.36. So at 100 yards let's say you need to adjust your POI (point of impact) about 2 inches up and 3 inches right, you would do: 6 clicks UP × .36 inches = your poi will move 2.16 inches UP 9 clicks RIGHT × .36 inches = your poi will move 3.24 inches RIGHT. Anyway, I'm still learning about the reticle. So someone correct me if im wrong. Hope this helps. Good luck

[@WTFSoCal]

well explained ! i have always worked with MOA just seems like the math was eaasier in my head, but the way you broke it down, I might start leaning the other way with Mil rads

[@XRING]

It was very hard for me to make the switch as well. Once I did, I wondered why it took me so long.

[@WTFSoCal]

I get it... Im good with " all that math stuff" in my head so it instantly made sense....

[@clintbench5666]

Great explanation- thanks for making it so simple

[@Ben-lo7cy]

Thank you! I’ve been looking for a new scope and every one that I find is in mil. I don’t mind switching but I couldn’t find an easy explanation yet as short as it was I get it now…well once I go shoot I’ll get it but at least I’ll have an idea of what I’m doing

[@XRING]

My pleasure and thank you for watching Ben. 👍🏼

[@williamczupryn2642]

Thank you sir. My first mil scope. Explained well. Cheers!

[@bf945]

Nice explanation. I am glad you didn't try and force one or the other.

[@XRING]

Thanks B F! I appreciate it and thanks for watching.

[@rwseemore1]

Outstanding description of the issue

[@XRING]

Thank you and thanks for watching.

[@clydeowens8014]

Thanks for clearing that up. Great explanation

[@2ndtonone197]

Easily understood, to me I look at it like standard tools and metric tools. Thank you

[@XRING]

Victor S. Excellent analogy! Thanks for watching.

[@butchhazard4391]

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[@jerrymont2595]

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[@XRING]

Jerry Mont Thank you Jerry and thanks for watching!

[@DSmith-zf9es]

Got it. Your explanation was perfectly clear. Thanks very much.

[@G5Hohn]

As a new shooter I started on MOA and then determined to learn MIL. I still strongly prefer MIL but since I started shooting nra high power where everyone uses MOA, i retrograded back to moa. Mil seems better to be because it’s unitless and makes for effortless range/dope adjustments. MOA always seems to involve more work. The extra resolution of moa I’ve never found useful. A rifle would need to hold 0.05MIL groups to be between clicks and no rifle is that accurate in field conditions. That’s a half a centimeter at 100m!!

[@XRING]

G5 Thanks for sharing your experience between the two. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@sarahconner9433]

Snipers like to use MOA... Simply because a sub 1 MOA or submoa makes u basically a beginner sniper.... The best in the world are 0.1 MOA!!!!! Military likes milrad because a true milrad scope each reticle dot is exactly 1 milrad width.. Excellent for range finding.. Generically im a barely submoa sniper...0.94MOA... With a basic high power rifle.

[@2punish1]

With your .308 rifle, shooting at 600 yards on your MOA scope (1/4" per click) is 16.5 MOA which is 66 clicks on your elevation turret. Now 600 yards on your mil dot scope (1/10) shooting a .308 is 4.8 mils which is 48 clicks on your elevation turret. So, at longer distances there are less clicks on your elevation turret when using a mil dot scope.

[@XRING]

2punish1 Exactly!! Less dialing.

[@arthurvandervelde]

This is simply the result of the fact that 1/10 mil is a bigger unit than 1/4 MOA. While one might argue that fewer clicks are preferable, another will argue that more clicks provide more precise adjustment.

[@cjrodriguez34]

@X-RING what is E=mc2? There must be hundreds of videos online, dozens of books and many so-called experts. Why did it take someone so long to explain what you have in less than 9 minutes? I don't know. What do I appreciate even more? No ads, promos, Gucci rounds, bougie firearms, fancy Tattooine glass (hence the reason Storm Troopers can't shoot), seriously 100% accurate, precise good content.

[@XRING]

Thank CJ! 👍🏼

[@thraplomongo9962]

Sir you are good teacher....

[@ronjoseph7973]

Virtually all American ranges use yards, not meters. Groups are measured in inches, not mm or cm. I am 73 and was only introduced to the metric system in college in 1969. Although I spent 40 years in heathcare, most of it is measured in metric, although temperature is measured in Fahrenheit not Celsius. Also, most patients don’t comprehend the metric system. If I’m in the field, I want math I can do in my head. The imperial system is my primary measurement language, so that’s what I use. I know PRS competition uses metric and I probably have to brush up on metric since I plan to get into long distance (> 300 yards) competition shooting. Right now I hunt with a 1990s Weatherby Vanguard in .308, with a Burris 4.5x14x42mm in MOA which suits me just fine.

[@donrumato3413]

Simple and wonderful explanation. Thank you !

[@wemcal]

Great explaining... better than ‘click till you hit’

[@XRING]

Thanks wemcal and thanks for watching.

[@theboaguy1]

Great video! Really cleared some things up for me.

[@XRING]

Brad Homer Thank you Brad. Glad it was helpful. Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@joelthepole12345]

Awesome explanation. Bought a vortex MRAD scope on a deal.

[@zombielivesmatter7294]

Thx, picked up a Viper PST 6-24x50 in MOA clicks and MOA recticle

[@XRING]

Zombie Lives Great choice Zombie lives!

[@shout3657]

This video just helped me to decide to get a mil scope, it just feels simpler to me

[@XRING]

Thanks RedBeard and thanks for watching.

[@shout3657]

@@XRING your very welcome sir

[@stevenv55125]

Great video and explanation. Thanks.

[@SQUAREHEAD64]

Thank you so much brother, Great video, now I understand much better!

[@XRING]

SQUAREHEAD64 Thanks sqarehead64 and thank you for watching!

[@redneckninja2539]

Have a Ruger American predator 6.5mm creedmoor, vortex crossfire ii bdc reticle scope. After 2 seasons of beating the hell out of it, the bdc reticle works out perfectly for the 143 gr eld-x. I've learned how to use the sub tensions I believe you call it. It's MOA. I've learned it like no other scope I've used. And it works. Guess that's the moral of the story, as it usually is, training, send rounds down range to hone those skills. Doesn't everyone in the shooting industry say get the best equipment you can, spend money on ammo and practice.