Simps MELTDOWN Over Rushia's Boyfriend

[@capri5341]

Never in my life would I see Optimus talk about v tubers

[@og_3rd_st_saint_gat]

Same

[@madcaptain5525]

Didn't he also cover the pokimane vtuber thing

[@afleshling6318]

He’s covered Kiryu Coco before, so it’s not the first time

[@Glitchhusky9304]

@@madcaptain5525 I was gonna asked the same thing

[@blueripper1558]

Must be pretty bad when you have people who don't do anime talk about the anime community

[@OceanbornAngel]

Imagine having a life so devoid of reality that you get triggered by someone's personal life as if you were really dating a stranger in real life.

[@lfjmioe235f]

Have you seen the situation on twitch these past few years? It's the same thing in Japan, just on a much worse level, and with anime stuff... This is nothing new.

[@OceanbornAngel]

@@lfjmioe235f Lol...I'm a jaded Gen X'er. I really stink at Social Media stuff. I am aware of Twitch but like most Old Farts I'm rarely there. Thanks for helping out Granny though. ;)

[@johndave117]

>literally advertising a wedding ring as merch for her fans to buy a week ago >cucks all of them after they bought it Rushia made this bed. now she can lay in it

[@KazantheMan579]

@@johndave117 Not her problem that her "fans" are pathetic enough to think that the wedding ring means anything, lol. I don't know anything about this VTuber thing and don't follow any of them, but from what I've seen they owe nothing to the simps who degrade themselves for them.

[@derek_3054]

Can’t!

[@PDS350]

Optimus talking about Vtubers is *not* something I was expecting Edit: I just realized we went from Russia drama to Rushia drama

[@capncake8837]

Man, you're right. We really did go from Russia to Rushia.

[@nnickplays9713]

Are you implying by any chance the 2 were connected?

[@shinobiknight2207]

the duality of man

[@yougoslavia]

Russia will invade Japan.

[@CantoniaCustoms]

Man, but if Rushia were to invade the US, I'd probably fight the fedgov haha.... FOR SOVIET RUSHIA!

[@primologo493]

If I found out Optimus had a girlfriend I would be absolutely devastated.

[@yeetbigley6287]

Completely destroyed. My entire life would fall apart as I cry in a fetal position for days on end. Oh no

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

He obliviously has 5 of them at the same time because he's Optimus

[@kristopherrobin4001]

Same

[@ThePointlessBox_]

Hes mine and mine alone, get in line

[@classy06]

Please take a shower immediately

[@shiba1638]

These aren’t your girlfriends, these are just some random women with an anime filter. Don’t get mad when they aren’t thinking about getting married with you 24/7 when you find out they have a boyfriend.

[@thiccandridicc]

who are you talking to? none of those people would watch this video and read through the comments

[@tuankhangcaonguyen5545]

@@tosutaa anime used to be about writers, story and characters now it's just another version of twitch thots. Japan do be delusional

[@tuankhangcaonguyen5545]

@@tosutaa i mean original twitch thots are famous bc of their faces. What makes u think Japanese vtuber twitch thots are different. Their content are literally the same and the worse thing is they can be a 45 year old obese neckbeard dude under the anime avatar which ruin their fantasy. Anime really creates the worst fandom for the worst kinds of people

[@tuankhangcaonguyen5545]

@ningers preach mode activate. Reject women return to monke

[@MakeTrapsGreatAgain]

Bold of you to think they are women

[@Angrenost02]

This is the dark side of idol culture in Japan. The Vtuber and Hololive community especially are usually pretty fun and wholesome but sadly we get stuff like this from time to time. Let's hope this blows over quickly.

[@-R.E.D.A.C.T.E.D-]

Yep, Vtubing is supposed to protect the actual streamer.

[@planktongunslinger5730]

@@-R.E.D.A.C.T.E.D- this is what happen when fans are obsessive.. JP side is down horrendous tho

[@eccentricdownfall321]

@@planktongunslinger5730 its get worse with the fan meetings are in person, the stories you hear when they meet and how deplorable they can get

[@kommentator2685]

These problems have existed with many streamers/celebrities, the ones who show their face have been stalked, it expands much further than Japan. I wouldn’t say this is even just the dark side of idol culture in Japan, because so many of these comments are in English, and Japanese usually can’t write this well, It’s a bunch of foreigners with Japanese usernames, combined with actual Japanese people crying (who most likely complain in Japanese)

[@Mashamazzi]

@@eccentricdownfall321 vtubers don't do fan meetings though? Gotta keep the faces hidden?

[@ElectrikStatik900]

The amount of secondhand embarrassment I'm feeling from this as a male myself is unreal

[@partyelixir1265]

*sigh

[@diligentone-six2688]

Don't be, you're not one of these losers who can't tell the difference between Reality and Entertainment.

[@brianestrada1993]

These lonely male simps make the rest of us look bad

[@yunyun6955]

But dang I actually wanted to see them together tho… …

[@lienomzekon4763]

@@yunyun6955 what? I Know you not serious right?

[@tahuluke6133]

So I've been a casual fan of Rushia for about 2 years now. and when this news broke out, instead of having 12 different mental breakdowns, I was actually happy for her, ya know. Good for her if she has someone, don't really see the problem.

[@beavers1978]

Because you live in the world of Sanity. These people don't.

[@godzilla1051]

12 breakdowns? I’m seeing people go through all 5 stages of grief simultaneously at 10 times per second

[@killkunz784]

Good for you for not buying into the whole girlfriend experience Rushia had going on

[@thebanditintheobj5337]

Glad I'm not the only one who's happy for them

[@rjrowley3887]

I didnt really care tbh

[@warthunderaddict]

Pretty much what having a fanbase that is down abysmal is like.

[@pogrx]

That's a new one. "Down abysmal". Represents literally 95% of female VTubers' fanbases.

[@auugh43546]

down astronomical

[@tosutaa]

They up to some nefarious deeds

[@backwardsblueshell9718]

@@tosutaaThey be doin some target practice on their phone screens if you know what I mean.

[@Skycube100]

I'm sorry but not everyone in the vtuber community are like that. And not only that, every fanbase have bad seeds.

[@hollomai4980]

The vtuber community is very supportive and wholesome, and most of the fans are supportive because they are passionate about vtubers and respect their voice acting abilities and such. However, there are definitely those who show support simply because they want to strengthen that parasocial bond and make themselves feel closer to these creators. Sadly that minority is very loud, but hopefully it blows over. Also, the engagement ring is just a very good looking piece of merch, I'm sure most people bought it simply because it looks good. It's the kind of fans you talked about in this video that would buy it for their "romantic fantasy" reasons. Supporters and Simps are two entirely different things.

[@musictorin]

This. Ever since vtubers got really popular in the west back in 2020, the community hasn't been as wholesome and so many people are bringing toxicity to it and giving the vtuber community a bad name

[@bionicallyacomputer292]

fax

[@McCaroni_Sup]

@Random Internet Guy fortunately Hololive has been relatively unaffected, only having a number of controversies I can count on one hand over the span of 4 years. Considering they have dozens of talents, that's a pretty impressive record. Unfortunately nothing is invincible, and stuff like this happens.

[@out_of_orbit1968]

Vtuber: *high pitch screaming and pretending to be a löli* Vtuber fans: *ah yes finally good voice acting talent😌*

[@TALK-is1qd]

@@out_of_orbit1968 get a life

[@overlordjay9807]

This just seems very sad to hear about. She has a life outside of her career just like us, people need to understand that.

[@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307]

Well when many sad, lonely, suicidal people like these exist. This problem will never go away. We need to solve this issue, instead of making fun of them.

[@birdmonster115]

@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 this is something to make fun of. They are 100% aware and in control of their actions lol

[@Velolyn]

you also have to keep in mind a lot watch them for escapism so when reminded of actual life they get annoyed

[@Aptezo]

@@Velolyn or they themselves dont have a life outside the internet so they dont understand that

[@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307]

@@birdmonster115 Well they aren't in control of their brains when their brains release the chemicals that make them feel an attraction to them and the chemical imbalances that make them act like this. You can't control what chemicals your brain releases or not.

[@princessnavi8815]

The guy who is rumoured to be her boyfriend is a guy named mafumafu, hes a Japanese singer, not really an internet personality like Rushia is but both still part of that idol culture thing. Apparently his female fans are also losing their marbles over this. Idol culture can be such a toxic thing

[@lloydzeroa.k.aforger6990]

Am i surprised? No.

[@nobaski3284]

mafumafu? heard of him before, never knew he was a guy lol

[@Emperor_Redgrave]

Imagine being so down horrendous that you get offended by a girl that you don’t even know what their face looks like having a boyfriend

[@gokuthehedgehog100]

I can feel the motivation from your pfp. Hats off to you my friend.

[@Emperor_Redgrave]

@@gokuthehedgehog100 thank you my friend. Remember. Never chase online women. What you must chase is *MOTIVATION* and *POWER*

[@staywokestace2069]

@@Emperor_Redgrave agreed

[@Flesh_Wizard]

@@Emperor_Redgrave based

[@Truck-kun_01]

KONO POWAAA

[@inanimatesum4945]

I'm astonished this reached out into your bubble Optimus lol This is kind of like the typical e-girl reaction except with Japanese Idols, the rabid fans are willing to stalk and commit some heinous crimes because they get that upset. Its irritating to see these kinds of people still exist.

[@akira939]

Yeah this situation is really funny and sad, people are getting really upset over the fact that a streamer doesn't love them, and they have someone

[@haramberoth117]

Its pathetic just like all the people who act like this.

[@SpideyfanX]

JP and EN Hololive fans are delusional, man.

[@akira939]

@@SpideyfanX it's mostly the EN viewers, the EN fans here are all extremely sensitive and delusional

[@RemagEnagemato]

@@akira939 imo it's the JP fans that are more delusional and sensitive for this kind of stuff since japan has the weird idol culture thing for a long time now

[@erichvondonitz5325]

@@akira939 pretty sure its the JP given that she's Japanese herself and also the horribly toxic nature of being an idol

[@SimonPetrikov12]

One of the few things I know about Rushia is that her fanbase makes fun of her for being flat. Well who's laughing now?

[@anguswaterhouse9255]

I mean I doubt the people who make fun of her for being flat are the same people who are this down bad

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

@@anguswaterhouse9255 do not underestimate a simp. Hannibal Lecher was a simp and look what he did

[@skylinegtr4045]

The fact that fans lose their mind when they find out their precious vtuber is in a relationship shows who their audience is and their intentions

[@erichvondonitz5325]

As a fan of Rushia, I'd say its the JP that are way too attached to her. Reminder that she's an idol and Japan has a toxic idol culture

[@scottiecurrie7927]

They're doing it with Calli as well. It's hilarious that sad little incels like these actually think they own anime girls that play video games with each other

[@superspy9831]

I wouldn't call these guys 'fans', more like obsessed

[@erichvondonitz5325]

@@superspy9831 basically Stans

[@superspy9831]

@@erichvondonitz5325 Yeah

[@strider7335]

I'm shaking and crying, what we had was special. 2 years down the drain. I hope you're happy with your "friends" optimus

[@nah3421]

I can’t even tell if ur fr

[@bryce4650]

@@nah3421 the guy is mocking the toxic fans who got mad at Rushia for having a bf It's satire

[@sorrychangedmyusername3594]

@@nah3421ur sus 😳

[@OmolonFluidDynamicsEnjoyer]

lol

[@deltalord6969]

My response to the simps having a meltdown over rushia: *That's rough buddy*

[@SpideyfanX]

My response to the simps: HAHAHAHAHAHA, LOSERS!

[@anonymouse1429]

I understood that reference.

[@quirinoguy8665]

"Stop it, get some help"

[@PerfectBurn101]

Its just laughable that they expect those egirls/vtubers to be theirs by offering their income and thats really the most sad thing ever. Just save your money, learn skills change your lifestyle and make good habits that make alpha like bro that aint hard. Invest on you and you get the puh for you!

[@Me-lt2tb]

Avatar reference + W comment

[@dq7860]

Good on Rushia, good too know she has a social life outside the internet.

[@NJisaverage]

fr; If her fans REALLY loved her, they would be happy about her being in a relationship.

[@capncake8837]

@@NJisaverage Most don’t care that she has an IRL boyfriend, but there’s always the loud minority that rages.

[@NJisaverage]

@@capncake8837 Also a very good point

[@jennyneon]

If this is their reaction to Rushia having a boyfriend, they'll be on suicide watch during Valentine's Day.

[@limitedperson]

They're going to be dramatic on that day I bet lol.

[@hoobadoobamaster8551]

Oof that sucks because for me valentines day is today

[@godzilla1051]

Yeah, if they haven’t committed during the weekend

[@jhalilxvii]

I seriously keep forgetting that holiday even exists

[@killkunz784]

yeah, especially for those who bought the Rushia engagement ring merch that supposed to come at Valentine's Day.

[@cerberouse1]

I want more of my V-tubers to get into relationships; my god the amount of times they'll talk about their offline lives and how sad and lonely they are is genuinely saddening :c

[@PigletShady]

I would love to meet these delusional kind of people irl, I hope they would have the same energy

[@atheist2025]

My God I agree! I wanna see how they function in life if they act like this

[@hevin_kart]

I doubt you would want to be within 6 metres from them. I guarantee they smell AWFUL.

[@uncrstbl]

You can't meet these people irl they don't leave their houses

[@scottiecurrie7927]

@@uncrstbl Their house probably looks exactly like the author of HxH's work space

[@PigletShady]

@@uncrstbl yea…

[@DawnOfTheOzz]

I've been following the V-Tuber community for a while now and the one thing you have to remember with all these "personalities" is that there is still a person behind the avatar. A person with actual feelings and a life outside of the character. It's the same with the J-pop idol world, they're also playing characters for their audience and, much like here, once the illusion breaks, things can get rather dark.

[@D-S-G.]

small brain: congratulate someone for starting a relationship big brain: ignore the situation *THE SPLENDID MIND: wish literal death upon a person you watched for accomplishing something you could never achieve*

[@haramberoth117]

Right lol like maybe instead of wishing death on someone else you should just off yourself instead and save everyone the trouble.

[@hoobadoobamaster8551]

The funny thing is that i JUST looked up revenge quites so i immediately get this

[@hassathunter2464]

KZbin Facebook Twitter?

[@milkman1881]

aight i watch vtubers once in a while and never once has the thought of them being my girlfriend ever popped up in my head if you think they are going to date you go get help there is no chance you will get with them and if you think they will there is something wrong. no matter how much money you donate they will never date you. one of the only reasons they might remember you is because you donate too much. please only donate if you like the content they WILL NOT DATE YOU.

[@courier6640]

Yeah... Drama is more overblown for Japanese (or just Asian in general) Idols being in relationships compared to the average E-girl. Egirls are treated like the p-stars you want to look up to. Like, if a twitch streamer got into onlyfans, not that many people would be in outrage, or care that much. Idols are treated as the angels of the entertainment industry. Being in a relationship alone could either ignore, or destroy an Idol's image. Like, if a pop star in 2010 was spotted dating, the celebrity, as well as the other person, would be in heat. A large portion of her community (I would know, I'm in it) reacted somewhat like this to the *BREAKING NEWS, BREAKING NEWS!* : "Oh, she's dating someone? Cool. Good for her. (Proceeds to watch her 'death scream' over getting ejected in Among Us)"

[@sonicthehedgehog1606]

Being famous is hard

[@saucymongoose7246]

Yeah Idol culture in the East is crazy

[@incompetent_3424]

I live in the East and watch clips of Hololive but neither do I understand why people get so insanely butthurt over something like thier favorite streamer (that is not even a real person on the screen, just an avatar) having a relationship off camera.

[@Walrus5]

These "idol" fans need to go outside. Touch some grass. Breath some fresh air. Get a job. Get out of their parents house.

[@old_vPeak]

That scream is soothing af

[@smeerly9950]

fans who cannot accept content creators(e.g. vtubers) such as Rushia to have a real relationship, most likely disregards the fact that behind this fantasy character, is a real, tangible human being. some fans of vtubers have a dead set fantasy/reality for themselves and their vtuber, some fans use their content to escape reality. but a quick escape from reality is all it is. a fantasy is a fantasy. attacking a content creator online for this is quite petty in my opinion, you knew what you were getting into when you first subscribed or started a monthly subscription. (Edit) - TL:DR, attacking vtubers because they have a life outside of vtubing is uncool

[@ItsAZues]

It's very clear that these husks do not care for their idol if they freak out about finding out that, yes, she has a relationship. I love Rushia, but this is just sad. I'm glad that she has a relationship going, shows me she's growing as a person.

[@limitedperson]

I'm glad for that person tho, the fans of hers are so out of touch with reality if they freaked out when she's in the relationship. That's being very obsessed with her.

[@-R.E.D.A.C.T.E.D-]

They are supposed to like the character, not the voice actor who's supposed to be hidden. It shows the insanity people would strive for.

[@scottiecurrie7927]

I only really watch clips of Hololive but I like Rushia as well. I'm glad she has the time to have a boyfriend and I hope they're happy. Incels will be incels. They're practically not even human anymore with how much they lower themselves in the world. No need to be worried by what they cry about

[@laur7247]

@@-R.E.D.A.C.T.E.D- that's the part that's super weird to me too. im one of the viewers of this who likes a few vtubers, but the thing is that they're meant to be characters (yes, theres real people behind them, but most have made up lore, voices, appearances, personalities, etc). why would one choose one random subscriber out of millions, and do they expect them to look and act and sound just like the anime girl avatar when theyve fallen in love with whats basically meant to be a persona?

[@bloodwar5005]

From now on, whenever someone's acting like a simp or an incel my only response will be to tell them to take a shower immediately.

[@lloydzeroa.k.aforger6990]

That is if they didn't sell the shower to fund donations

[@lorech.8326]

I never thought there would be a day where Optimus would cover VTubers

[@gawrguraenthusiast5675]

Nah fr tho

[@shamiko1471]

Ssme

[@nyawndere]

😭 fr

[@lucentdagoat]

On me never thought that'd happen

[@og_3rd_st_saint_gat]

I’m suprised too

[@astriverofstrengthandknowledge]

If these people just got off social media and put this much emotion into doing something better with their lives, there would probably be more individuals like Rushia who would legitimately be interested in them.

[@Arts11234]

It's easy to say instead of doing, buddy. I was never a simp/incel like them but was a lonely basement dweller although I never wasted my money, it took me 5 years full of failures and giving up halfway to become a successful engineer, completed my masters, got a loving SO. Only difference I realised is that most people put good efforts unconsciously that's why they have what I wanted while I still struggle with my willingness to improve and lazy monkey mind, it's tiresome. Hey, but I never give up.

[@Colors82]

@@Arts11234 W

[@iambilly1134]

Lesson here is: don’t simp It ain’t worth it….it’s never worth it

[@brobunni]

True

[@criminal2421]

facts.. backs.. racks.. stacks..

[@criminal2421]

hold on hold on.. I got another one.. facts

[@D-S-G.]

"its never worth it" *it wasnt worth anything to begin*

[@justsomeguy2142]

The true lesson is that being born a female is the biggest W in life

[@Koishi97]

I'm a fan of Rushia and I really like her character, but even I understand that its just a person whos behind an avi and is a human being. If people are this upset and wish her nothing but harm, they were never fans of hers to begin with. I'll still support her and she deserves much better than those trash people.

[@HonorViego]

Guys I'll be completely transparent here, I used to be a Vtuber simp not gonna say who, but I was in her chat for hours every day, but eventually my saving grace was a Jordan Peterson video popped in my recommendations and I liked it so much I begun to watch more of his content and some motivation videos and self improvement stuff, I started working out from home with dumbells to spooked to go to the gym but eventually started going after I made a little progress at home, started a routine educated myself on how to improve my mental and physical health! a girl from my school who I liked asked me out I began dating her (still dating) and I no longer simp for Vtubers. I GREW UP :) the end! moral of the story, These people don't even know you exist if you changed your IGN in chat they wouldn't even know who you are anymore online! and most likely you will never see them in real life or have a relationship with them so GROW UP PEOPLE!!!!

[@lazyusername3381]

Nice one dude, it's pretty hard to change yourself but you did it.

[@remyxedfern5008]

Good for you!

[@-R.E.D.A.C.T.E.D-]

This is some anime protagonist stuff right here

[@XartiXV]

Good ya change for the better.

[@faisdarkmaster6352]

Keep the grind king

[@nekoluxuria7721]

Honestly, the only thing i'd be disheartened about is that she "graduates" because of this because for some insane reason an idol having a boyfriend or being in a relationship = graduation. Also Wento is my oshi. If konami confirms Wento is not paired with Serziel ill quit YGO

[@midasredding]

This is why I love Optimus. He can upload a video talking about geopolitical events, and in the next hour he’s talking about vtubers.

[@jasmineflower2888]

I'm glad to listen to him documenting about stuff.

[@slobodanpraljak1464]

The only downside to his versatiliy is that he never knows what he's talking about.

[@noble3025]

I actually watch VTubers quite often, and I can confirm that one downside to being part of a community like this is being jumbled in with all this cringe. It's not hard to understand that the person behind the screen has their own personal life, and most of us do definitely understand that. But I just hate telling people "oh yeah, I do watch VTubers" and then they think I'm part of this kind of this cringefest.

[@kengokaslana1776cw]

Never would I think Optimus paid attention to v-tubers and thank you for covering the toxicity of idol culture.

[@diligentone-six2688]

I wished he cover Nyanners from V-Shojo and her Two-faced behavior and her Hypocrisy coming from a 4-chan user making disgusting statements.

[@tfgenobatssasin1788]

@@diligentone-six2688 remember how all vshojo girls threw nux under the bus because of the dox situation despite nux was the victim? Yea :/

[@shirumi_nakano]

The idol and the fans themselves should stop if i wanna add tbh

[@zato-1766]

I kinda gotta agree with that one tweet though that says she asked for this. Idk her community at all, but if an engagement ring is part of your merch than you're clearly directly targeting parasocial relationships for financial gain. Whether or not it's immoral is a different issue but if you're gonna specifically try to cultivate parasocial relationships don't be surprised when they implode over things like this.

[@blatantslander]

Well at least it was done full bars, engagement ring or not i think same consequences

[@clutchmctryhard3110]

Never thought I'd see Optimus making a video about VTubers lol Personally, I love Hololive. I watch clips of them all the time (since I don't have time to watch live streams nor do I speak Japanese) but seeing people act this way to one of them having a boyfriend really makes me embarrassed to be apart of the fanbase...

[@sandman1476]

Its really is embarrassing but no matter the fandom there will always be these type of people and it sucks because they’re the minority but because how unhinged they are it drowns out the good fans

[@gabrielquintero2137]

You can just… not be part of the fanbase while enjoying the clips?

[@planktongunslinger5730]

@@gabrielquintero2137 yes? just don't get attached to the fanbase I guess

[@clutchmctryhard3110]

@@gabrielquintero2137 I still love Hololive and all because I'm a filthy weeb, just not the people that act like this lol

[@batedanemone6680]

What sucks more is that Rushia is not even dating. She had a crush on a male v tuber but it didn't became a thing.

[@MassiveGhost-]

As Michael Jordan once said "Stop It, Get Some Help"

[@gustavocardenasmontalvo1266]

Man you know it's getting crazy when Optimus of all people are talking about this

[@StagedPigeon562]

It wouldn’t surprise me if hololive actually encouraged the creators make this kind of community, because the people who are this obsessed are also buying the merchandise and donating

[@musictorin]

Most of the people in the community are decent people, and I know a lot of them would have no problem with Rushia being in a relationship. The people mentioned in the video are just a loud minority

[@Th3Voltergeist]

Sad to know that people like this are disconnected from reality

[@iijason1245]

7:04 this is the greatest optimus moment of all time

[@ComposedSage75]

Just an absolute sad and pathetic situation in every way. I’m not too invested in Vtubers but it just shows how so many ppl are out of touch when it comes to fantasy and reality.

[@mayonotes9849]

The amount of obsession these people have is insane. Look I like VTubers too but I wouldn't go that far because it's just madness.

[@GhostlyBanes]

I love how Optimus went from WW3 to vtuber simps

[@yougoslavia]

Russia to Rushia.

[@bmhater1283]

@@yougoslavia PUN CITY

[@champagnegascogne9755]

Ukrainian Twitter people on suicide watch

[@gunk3407]

7:58 >sees simp >types "Please take a shower immediately." >simp gets riled up >types "Please take a shower immediately." again >refuses to elaborated further Chad SpaccAlberi

[@GoroMajimaHoldingAFatAssBlunt]

👍

[@krugerofcause9048]

Man, this situation became this big. I think I speak for all of us that these people aren't real Hololive fans.

[@SG5fzZ]

These are the same people who tried to cancel calli

[@krugerofcause9048]

@@SG5fzZ WE DEADBEATS AND FANDEADS SHALL NOT STAND FOR THIS!!!

[@SG5fzZ]

@@krugerofcause9048 I just hope that these are anomalies and every thing can go back to normal

[@krugerofcause9048]

@@SG5fzZ Yeah, me too. I want this nice community to go back to being a nice community.

[@kemritwithgunbutrebornasle4021]

@@krugerofcause9048 well a majority of it is nice, it’s just those few that grew up eating sand and drinking pool water

[@iang257]

I really hope that this doesn't cause Rushia to leave Hololive or cause any unnecessary problems. Rushia is a good cutting board and we can't lose her!

[@shr1mpsush1]

How sad and lonely do you have to be to react this way over finding out someone you follow has a boyfriend irl?

[@harvetwound1234]

The best part is this was 1 day before valentines. We didnt even need to wait to see the people cry in solidarity.

[@nanaya1398]

Just another example of the problems with idol culture in Japan

[@justsomeguy2142]

Idol culture? Its female/anime female culture lol

[@nanaya1398]

@@justsomeguy2142 I won't deny that's a factor. That part of anime culture is... off their rockers. But the Hololive girls are marketed as idols, so idol culture is absolutely still in play

[@justsomeguy2142]

@@nanaya1398 for sure, especially since in the asian culture they revere to idols differently than westerners revere to celebrities. But since in western culture its now cool to adopt the asian sexualization culture its truly crazy how far people go

[@sammysaito529]

@@nanaya1398 are they really marketed as idols? I thought Yagoo changed that already, like, even a lot of managers there couldn’t believe that they are working for an idol company.

[@bmhater1283]

@@sammysaito529 They are still idols

[@Pigman179]

I'm glad optimus talked about this. Those people really need a reality check cuz at the end of the day she just playing character and try to provide for herself and family and you know.. live a life like a normal human being 😑

[@eegernades]

She's fired now

[@anupambarua3407]

She's gone, just cuz some fanatics were mad at her not being single tf.

[@eegernades]

@@anupambarua3407 not that, she breached her contract by going on that one youtubers livestream.

[@Pigman179]

@@eegernades Well then I hope she can return to her normal life safely.

[@sahqoyoltaasah9453]

This whole situation has been scummy on all sides; the people thinking that Rushia belongs to them and those congratulating the relationship. This was a private matter of which we don’t, and shouldn’t know the full context of. I agree that everything has been made out to be much more dramatic. The message doesn’t even confirm a relationship but the story has been spun out to be a Frankenstein’a monster. Edit: spelling mistake. Keeps autocorrecting to the country, not the vtuber.

[@Algebruh2407]

I don't think it is bad if they give a simple 'contrats if you are in a relationship' and leaves it like that. I think it is only a problem if they keep brining him up or demands status updates on him and the relationship.

[@GamerJosher]

As someone who enjoys watches clips of Rushia (because I can't understand Japanese), this situation is sad. I love watching Rushia because she is funny and I respect her to have her own life outside of streaming. These simps make me sick.

[@tacomen4506]

Where you expected, bunch of desperate hyenas want to get funky in the bed.

[@GamerJosher]

@@dragonballandhonkaiimpact1022 and that's very sad

[@GamerJosher]

@@tacomen4506 having parasocial relationships do weird things to people

[@slobodanpraljak1464]

@@dragonballandhonkaiimpact1022 If by "e-girl" you mean a woman that spends a lot of time on the internet, then sure.

[@user_Z-]

No way Optimus is covering Vtubers now. I never thought I would see the day but this is pretty pog

[@SG5fzZ]

Indeed

[@wattson1570]

What amplifies the situation is that the "boyfriend-in-question" is Mafumafu, a famous japanese singer which most of her fanbase has probably heard of. Mafumafu also has his own female fans to worry about as well.

[@matthewlarios.]

bruh how do you get “exposed” for being in a relationship

[@venombeetle7473]

She didn’t have her discord muted and while playing a game, a text came up from Mafumafu (Another famous person, who is a guy) saying “… I’ll be home soon.” But of course translated to English, and people rioted. The text was actually “I’ll be home soon, let’s play.” Cause they’re playmates but at that point it’s already got heated.

[@BobiMcBob]

yea let Russia have relationships

[@shagaru1234]

by being a girlfriend experience

[@BitchChill]

Unless it's illegal

[@deeperthantheabyss624]

@@BobiMcBob banging Ukraine infront of Nato

[@adityaanggaisback937]

I scroll for few times and not yet see people that againts rushia in this drama. So their argument is rushia vtuber persona is your girlfriend vtuber, she even have ring merchendise to her fans. Ofc they see her as their gilfriend so when mafumafu acident comes, they are mad. Then there are one statement or question or whatever that makes this thing more complicated. Why mafumafu using his own profesional account in discord? Why not his private account? Or why he dont use line? Line is popular in japan(atleast that what i know)

[@UniverseShinobi]

These are called "Parasocial Relationships". Basically when someone forms a heavily one sided relationship with someone who doesn't know they even exist. This happens all the time with celebrities, twitch streamers, KZbinrs, ect ect.

[@bmhater1283]

I heard about this from Kavos' Dream stan video

[@venombeetle7473]

A more accurate word is “Gachikoi” which is basically that but exclusively idols, which Rushia is.

[@s77vn]

This reminds me of an anime movie called Perfect Blue. It's basically about an idol who retires from music to pursue an acting career, but becomes a victim of stalking and witness to murders revolved around her life

[@IcyCrystalStar]

It was such a terrifying movie, like that can really happen.

[@sbevemcqueen9422]

People like this makes me embarrassed to say I’m a Vtuber enjoyer

[@ThePointlessBox_]

Youre telling me a woman halfway across the world, whos name I dont even know or what her real name is and does play pretend for a living and i have 0 chance of ever meeting in my life has a partner? IM GOING TO START A RIOT

[@realeodealeo1233]

I’m laughing at this situation. Don’t do simping kids. It’s one of the worst drugs. It doesn’t even feel good

[@Yapping_Fox]

Vtubers especially in Japan are in the Idol business. Some companies that contract V tubers even go as far as force them to not have any relationships at all and on one account in Japan a V tuber was found out to have a boyfriend and the company forced her to apologize to her fans and break up with her secret bf at the time.

[@misspikapika7972]

I think also in korean with their KPop stuff aswell. Pretty messed up and sad these people have to hide their realtionships :/

[@kritztalkreviews1437]

The fact that this whole thing even became a "situation" is really sad. People need to understand that the most important rule to keep in mind if you're going to dedicate yourself to a streamer is that these people will have lives outside of their job. Streaming is like any job, and any human on earth with a job will tell you that of course they have lives outside of their jobs. It doesn't matter how "immersive" the relationship aspect becomes (eg: Rushia selling those rings), fans still need to understand that, at the end of the day, Rushia is a streamer, and a streamer who works for a business. Fans need to understand the importance of clearly separating fiction from reality, because otherwise a situation can get real out of hand, just like this.

[@Sora_Mesa_5th_Apostle]

im in the "rabbit Hole" and even i understand these people are absolutely ridiculous and really need to comprehend the girls have a life outside of streaming

[@rotaryramen1172]

Went from Ukraine Invasion to Simps real quick

[@Schattengewaechs99]

I rather have a few young men lose their composure than having thousands of young men lose their life.

[@rotaryramen1172]

@@Schattengewaechs99 Word

[@williamdrum9899]

From Russia to Rushia

[@silverflight01]

Honestly, it's pretty hilarious when a female streamer, V-Tuber or not, reveals (or at least hints) that they have a boyfriend, and then the internet blows up like Chernobyl. This is the second time I've heard of something like this happening.

[@massivedingaloid6302]

These people give me second hand embarrassment of being in the same community, i just dont get why people can grasp the fact that streamers have their own lives or something update:her contract has been terminated whivh means something really bad has happenfed normally when a vtuber will no longer stream or make content they "graduate" which is just kind of a good by thing and rushia just went with out notice

[@sammysaito529]

I kinda already accepted that there’s always this kind of people in any fandom, I’m just happy most of the fandom aren’t this dumb.

[@massivedingaloid6302]

@@sammysaito529 i just hope she dosent get doxxed and that, people that do that are mentally ill

[@SoraPierce]

To make things worse for her is that there are plenty of people who make their personality hating vtubers severely amplifying the drama to try and make her "graduate" which is either quitting or dropping your established identity to stream under a new name(theres one case of latter that i know of) or at the very least make her feel even more hurt and stressed out

[@F1LERS]

Someone invent a "Father for hire company" so that these people can get some father moments.

[@cyanlon7472]

That is just one of the many sad realities of idol industry. It common for certain "dedicated" fanbase think that they owned the person they idolized.

[@MilkyRayLover]

Who’s Rushia? And why does this happen atleast twice every month?

[@SG5fzZ]

Japanese virtual tuber part of this vtuber company called hololive

[@courier6640]

She's a Hololive JP Idol Vtuber.

[@madcaptain5525]

From what I know this kind of things didn't really happens very often, but just a couple weeks ago (I think), there's the Mori Calliope drama (also from Hololive), where another youtuber, Connor (CDawgVA) was said to "cuck" her fans. Don't really know much about that one because I don't want to lose brain cells.

[@MilkyRayLover]

@@madcaptain5525 yeah this has been weird, I mean can you really even cuck someone you’ve never seen or even heard the voice of?

[@deathofthedammed6571]

@@madcaptain5525 the situation with Mori was pathetic, people really need to mind their own business and get a grip on reality. it's downright sad.

[@aikokobamew5302]

This is the exact reason why companies who manage Idol groups and Idols/talent forbid talent from having public relationships, because people are crazy. Its to protect the talent but it makes their life harder. People stop being creeps.

[@baccano_tn]

Update! Hololive (Rushias Lable) just announced on Twitter, that the incident is currently investigated internally because Rushia and some other Hololive members received backlash after everything that happened. Hololive values the private life of their talents and doesn't interfere with any private business of the members. They and lots of people in the Hololive community support Rushia and I hope you do too. For those who don't know: In Japan there is this whole idol culture phenomenon. As an idol you always have to be there for your fans, you are always available and you never have a relationship because you are in a wierd parasocial relationship with all of your fans. The vtubers at hololive are idols in this sense and therefore these rules apply to them too. It's pretty much a cultural thing over there and careers have ended over night because someone had a boyfriend/girlfriend. This is also a phenomenon that recently happened in the english branch of hololive because one of them has a friendly relationship with another male streamer. (Note: this is a very oversimplified version the whole stuff so double check if you are interested because it becomes very complex)

[@SUSsykage]

when it comes to idol culture, the JP side of things can be merciless, and I MEAN IT... i think in another video somewhere on the interwebs, someone in the comment section talked about Nakiri Ayame being harassed by her "fans" for not streaming as much as other hololive members and that they actively stalk her to get her to stream more ... and as another example: Mano Aloe ... the streamer that never came to be because of an unfortunate slip-up that costed her entire hololive career because people didn't know when to stop

[@Butter_Chickennn]

Having a relationship in this type of work ( and especially in this genre) is a taboo sadly. Many men fantasize these streamers to such a level that they become absolutely insane if the mention of a male interest/ friend. This is the equal comparison to K-pop Stan’s, and I am sad to say that it’s more common then we think.

[@kenofdarkmachines8415]

"we had something special". "I don't even know who you are."

[@Arachnid]

I'd never imagine people would be this down atrocious for a girl who's represented by pixels on a screen.

[@ArchangelNashan]

Yeah this whole situation has gotten so out of hand that Rushia(pronounced Rue-shee-ah) has, in a now since deleted tweet, stated she has been contemplating self-deletion at the amount of Fabirication of the Story, even after both parties have stated they are nothing more than Irl Gaming friends. It's freaking insane.

[@a_nervous_wreck]

I don't have that many friends. I have maybe 3 or 4 and I spend most of my time indoors, alone. That being said, it's never even crossed my mind to become obsessed over egirls or vTubers. I know it's been said before but some of these peeps need to touch grass. And that's coming from an indoor hermit.

[@wansper9297]

On the subject of her acting like the chat is her boyfriend and engagement rings and such, its called PLAYING A CHARACTER, you know THE MAIN THING THAT MAKES THE VTUBER MEDIUM UNIQUE

[@groovyfish5600]

That's crazy, you mean to tell me the human being that can think and breathe has a life.

[@J_Clean_1996]

"2 years down the drain." -Someone with absolutely no life whatsoever.

[@silly.thoughts]

Never ever in my life i would expect optimus making news about hololive 💀💀💀

[@nerfeverythings3515]

well arguable because these people are identified as idols and idols are basically these people who are "super attractive" and are made for collecting fans using their attractiveness. These are well establish in the K-pop community and idols over there are often frown upon and discourage to be in a relationship because basically they are made to commit 100% to their fan and doing otherwise which would seem like a betrayal. And im not defending these people of being this obsessed over some 3d models but im trying to say their action are more justified and already existed well before this for example the bts "army" fandom

[@nerfeverythings3515]

Im not saying she shouldn't be in a relationship she can do what she want but it might ruined her career or at least damaging it

[@dadtaro9202]

honestly, this type of stuff wouldn’t happen if we don’t value celebrities as much as we should, and that 90% of women are only willing to talk to 10% of the men in the world. society pretty much caused this.

[@kurosan0079]

Yup. It's a deep-rooted problem that doesn't have a simple solution.

[@akiramiller9025]

@@kurosan0079 take away women rights

[@BrapBrapDorito]

@@akiramiller9025 💀

[@slobodanpraljak1464]

when the the me when society

[@kurosan0079]

@@akiramiller9025 Return to unga-bunga?

[@dislikebutton2462]

I'm a big fan of Vtubers and i will never understand the thought patterns these sorts of people have... did they really think buying a cheap plastic ring from her actually meant she was your wife?... HELLO LIKE A MILLION OTHER PEOPLE ALSO BOUGHT THAT RING, and just think, these people are most likely grown men

[@shlimeball475]

OPTIMUS HAS A GIRLFRIEND???? IM CRYING THROWING UP IM SNOTTING WET TOWELS ARE EVERYWHERE. Annnnnddddd scene

[@TheRudester25]

Thanks Opti for informing me on yet another dark rabbit hole here on KZbin to steer clear of. Also, straight savage therapist advice.

[@southplaq2887]

Hololive is the company that manages her, basically. They manage a lot of vtubers, and they are all encouraged to behave at least to some degree like how Rushia treats her viewers. It is their bread and butter. GFE = Girlfriend Experience. That is the main selling point for a lot of Hololive-affiliated vtubers. Not saying it is right, I'm just saying that this storm could be seen coming from miles away due to these circumstances. To be fair, ~95% of this situation is contained in Japanese circles and a lot of tweets, messages, etc. are actually fan translated ones, so I don't really see the point in anyone outside of it talking about it. They don't care about what we say, and are not going to change anytime soon. This is the culture they built, so it is the culture they will swim in until they decide they want change. Personally, I don't foresee any change on the horizon. "You Will Never Be Japanese", as they say, and they don't want you to be. In my opinion, Rushia and other Hololive members are not innocent either, since they knowingly and willingly take advantage of these people by selling them the illusion of a virtual girlfriend. Anyone being taking advantage of does not sit well with me, and that includes even the saddest of individuals such as this. It is funny to laugh at them, but it also feels good to see the people who are using them to get a taste of it as well, so to speak.

[@kemritwithgunbutrebornasle4021]

I honestly think Rushia and the others are innocent. Even if they act like they are a virtual gf, it’s the fan base’s fault for believing it.

[@leonthomas2020]

@@kemritwithgunbutrebornasle4021 she's also trying to sell that product of a gf though, she's not 100% innocent. someone said she's selling engagement ring merch? you can't be surprised when you have fans like this.

[@kemritwithgunbutrebornasle4021]

@@leonthomas2020 Oh, I didn’t know that, ignore me then, I’m irrelevant.

[@jdmrchem5]

I would say this is the best comment about this issue. I want to know things that are behind the scenes and that are not usually seen. I rarely watch VTubers since it is not my cup of tea, but once in a while, I watch it. Somehow, just seeing the merch from Hololive VTubers makes me think that this one of the sources of income, and this attracts any individuals ranging from affluent guy, casuals, and supporters to loners, simps, and those who have problems. For some, they hope they find the girl of their dreams. There are some individuals that could be exploited and go in a spending spree with the fall hope of getting close to Rushia. Speaking of Rushia, her avatar is so gorgeous that it could cause a certain number of guys would fall for her. Let's add the merchandize too, and it is quite manipulative since it makes vulnerable individuals pay more money to hope that they get what they want. Seriously, her Birthday Celebration merchandize is as expensive as a RC car and IMO, I would rather by a RC car since I can play it anytime and I bought it with my own volition. I wonder if purchasing that set may make people accomplish something. Unfortunately, there are those that will go over the impossible dream of becoming the girlfriend of Rushia, but it's not going to happen. I am aware that the society is very savage towards to the unfortunate ones who have an obsession for Rushia and those who have mental health problems. IMO, the selling of a virtual girlfriend is scummy to a point that certain individuals make impulsive decisions to chase something that is unreachable. This can induce permanent damage on some individuals. Maybe the root cause of the obsession to female avatar VTubers may have to do with something that individuals that want to fulfill their pipe dream of having a loved one which is conditioned in any form of media, or business practices to earn bank and that may include exploit the vulnerable ones. This might be a discussion worth exploring. I need to learn more about the Rushia story when I find time, more on the behind the scenes stuff and the economics on how the Hololive operates. I have this question for while whether if it is possible to have Hololive VTubers to use female avatars and the individual is a guy in a real life, or that stuff never happens. Sometimes, mysteries of the VTubers make people want to know the real individual, and thus they dive into the vivid unknown.

[@davicosta2328]

Its really sad to think about the fact that Vtubers( And i think this goes for other types of content creators too) can't say they have a boyfriend or even are friend with a guy because of a part of their fanbase who has the fantasy that they have a chance with them

[@btr9969]

If your audience are a bunch of simps, never reval your love live. for Rushia, I wish you the best & I hope this drama ends fast.

[@Jaime_Protein_Cannister]

To expand on the Para-social relationship front, This works both ways sometimes streamers think the audience has their back no matter what they do. While it's not the case a lot of people have a bit of a hive mentality. They don't even realize they're influenced by status quo. They don't take 10 minutes to calm down and think anything trough. I'm kinda happy for her, Most of the time I worry for the girls , because they stream long hours and really put in a lot of work, it does appear like they have no social lives outside of hololive. I'm glad to see Rushia is having other relationships

[@JimiArchive]

Anyone just chillin

[@MrPekka23]

Anyone just irrelevant

[@notavailable4867]

Anyone don't have life

[@renamon5658]

I thought this only happens to celebrities. I know that most musicians have to pretend to be single so their fans wont leave them

[@SUSsykage]

idol culture in Japan is cut-throat...