Singapore Parliament: A big fish in a pond or a medium-sized fish in an ocean? 🤔

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"We bring in foreign expertise and put in a lot of effort to groom local talent... [they] learn from the foreign expertise and from there, many of our own rose up to take senior positions", Transport Minister Ong Ye Kung shared.
In Parliament on Sep. 4, Ministers Ong Ye Kung and S Iswaran responded to NCMP Leong Mun Wai on foreigners with higher positions in the workforce and grooming local talent.
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@EuniceNg78
@EuniceNg78 4 жыл бұрын
His observation is valid in my option. Perhaps he didn’t do enough homework to substantiate his point. Having stayed and worked in Western Europe and the North America, his observation is valid. Local companies in these continents will most of the time employ their own people to be head of the companies (the sense of patriotism/comradeship is there). They may not be more capable then the competitors from other countries or even race. This is not the same in Sg where we may be under the impression that having a foreign talent to head the company is beneficial (for some companies it may be due to improve the global image). He is actually pointing out an emerging (or already emerged) issue that Sg doesn’t help her own people. Got to buck up on doing research and homework to make the speech more robust and convincing
@alvinleong173
@alvinleong173 4 жыл бұрын
A slap in the face when our top ranking universities in Asia can't produce the people to run own banks
@acheeyk
@acheeyk 4 жыл бұрын
@@alvinleong173 we are first world country with the best university, Need to learn from n accept workers from them. Is the Foreign worker with their arrogant , superior air even though they came here to study and just graduate w no experience at all. During one incident in the field to fix a computer printer fault ,what he do is on the computer n keep typing away. Then he tells me the printer shows connected but still cannot print. I told him to physically check wire connection to the printer. He check n tell me wire connection ok. He look lost..... private diploma grad... The fault is usb connectivity was push n connection the wrong ends from computer to printer by the user. How to accept these kind of calibre n we call them talent. Basic fault checking also issue. How to leave our Singapore to them. They contribute to our country or came to learn from us.??? Singapore gov allowed them to make mistakes n learn which was not afforded to singaporeans. Gov policy is to belittle us.
@KuroAn29
@KuroAn29 4 жыл бұрын
@@acheeyk "Gov policy is to belittle us." This line is so painfully on point. Is saddening esp when even if we are properly trained overseas and many years exp. They still short change SG people in terms of opportunities.
@JGreen-ec9uo
@JGreen-ec9uo 4 жыл бұрын
No la its not like what you say. Look at US companies like Google, Microsoft and several others with foreign CEOs , actually they were also given citizenship. Look at Microsoft what a come back. Under Steve Ballmer the company was sinking. But the new CEO turned it around completely. USA & Western Europe are very large places with enormous impact despite this they recruit foreign CEO which in turn leads to local job growth and increased revenues for these companies. We don't want to understand this fact. If these companies leave Singapore or move some or most of their jobs elsewhere , many of us would be jobless. As a migrant country, even our forefather came here from distant lands in search for a better living imagine if the people who were here were hostile and told them to go back then some of us wouldn't be here.
@skychaos87
@skychaos87 4 жыл бұрын
People and companies are capitalistic, profit is king. There's no company that will do money losing business. So if they hire foreign talents, they must be worth their pay and levy cost. Its the very same reason why American companies move their production overseas and hire foreign/best talents locally. Most CEOs in America companies are Indians, most top engineers and scientists are Chinese and other Asians. Americans simply cannot compete. The real problem and the Achilles heels is the education system, both in America and Singapore. We were ahead of the curve back in 70s 80s etc to push Singaporeans to higher education and literacy in order to reach a standard to attract foreign investments and businesses to operate in Singapore. But today, generic academic education is not longer the most important as the world globalize and move towards the 4th industrialization. A.I and automation are replacing much of the entry level jobs that most Singaporeans hold. Our education today is behind the curve of adapting and bringing people towards the new era. Creativity, arts and coding etc are the most sought for skills for today and future and most Singaporeans are still studying the generic majors of the 80s and 90s. IMO this is why the more crucial jobs have no Singaporeans that can take the jobs. Because Singapore is open and competes in the global market, we need to have the best people. The reality of capitalism is the survival of the fittest, rich get richer and poor gets poorer. When Singapore open up to the world, we are basically competing on the world stage. You see the same problem in America where its people are complaining about jobs taken by foreigners and other countries. I think capitalism today has run amok in most countries, socialist mechanism of tax, social welfare and healthcare etc has broken down. While Singapore is still far better than America, i think Singapore needs to step up on more socialist policies to help Singaporeans that have fallen behind the curve. The government really need to restructure the education system to keep Singaporeans competitive on the growing fields and jobs of the future. And while doing that, perhaps they should implement something like Universal Basic Income to better the wealth gap and inequality problems.
@whm5511
@whm5511 4 жыл бұрын
Is this really the best that Tan Cheng Bok can do? Is this really Cheng Bok's thinking that is presented here by Leong Mun Wai? He sounds like a bumbling fool who takes issue with a head of a bank who is Singaporean but not Singapore born. Does this really reflect Cheng Bok's position? I was a supporter of Cheng Bok all along. Now, I have second thoughts. Even if you are Singaporean, you are not safe in Cheng Bok's world. Not until he arbitrarily decides if he accepts you or not.
@benjaminwee9815
@benjaminwee9815 4 жыл бұрын
Well said
@sabrisabtu2214
@sabrisabtu2214 4 жыл бұрын
Lol.. you're the fool. You have been fooled.
@alfredlim1060
@alfredlim1060 4 жыл бұрын
I do agree that more jobs should go to Singaporeans, and preference of locas over foreigners. However, let's not lose sight of the end result. The job should go to the best candidate to achieve the best possible gains. For instance, why do some wealthy businessmen or family-owned businesses hire professional managers to run run their companies instead of letting their own children take control? Instead of letting a less capable child run and crash the company, will it not be better to hire a more capable outsider to run the company and in the process increase the company's value and therefore the family's wealth?😉 Put it another way, if you are critically ill and need to undergo operation, and the best surgeon available at that time to perform the operation is a foreigner, will you demand the hospital to assign you a local surgeon even if it's one who is less experienced or qualified?
@sabrisabtu2214
@sabrisabtu2214 4 жыл бұрын
I think you're generalizing though. You're implying that Singaporeans are the less capable child that would crash the company. How do you know? How much does he need to be capable? Like the one who runs Our sovereign wealth institution?
@alfredlim1060
@alfredlim1060 4 жыл бұрын
@@sabrisabtu2214 I did not say singaporeans are less capable. In fact I consider myself better than some of my foreign peers in the same age and profession. Do you think the govt or DBS board just put up an advert, conduct 1 or 2 interviews and then give him the top job in DBS? They must have done an extensive search and selection process and the incumbent was the best candidate. Are you trying to say singaporeans were not fairly considered during the selection process. If we just award jobs based on own nationality but disregard capability, then very soon our country, our economy will be third world.
@rihathatir1797
@rihathatir1797 4 жыл бұрын
when you say jobs..which type of jobs are you looking at?
@johnbb9824
@johnbb9824 4 жыл бұрын
@@sabrisabtu2214 here in this context they are talking about the ceo of dbs, and obviously u probably have no knowledge about being a ceo of a big company. u are just making assumptions at this point that there might be a better local that could be the ceo. what u should be more worried is the availability of jobs for the locals in singapore and not who becomes the fucking ceo of dbs. furthermore it is not necessary for dbs to have a local ceo. what dbs needs is a ceo that can make the best decision for the company.
@sabrisabtu2214
@sabrisabtu2214 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnbb9824 lol you are triggered aren't you. Of course there is a bigger picture that everyone needs to care about, which is another subject which is brought up consistently. You're right, I've no knowledge of becoming a CEO of a bank, and i'm pretty sure you don't also. We're not capable for that position. But that doesn't mean there aren't others who are. It is not just about filling up the position by a Singaporean, but a capable one. Im not yet even talking about priority given to the singaporean. If the level playing field is fair and both singaporeans and foreigners were considered thoroughly in the process, then I've no more to say.
@λάδα
@λάδα 4 жыл бұрын
Does sg proved its education system producing students aceing exams but sg still need so many pmets as locals unable to do the job?
@tanjohnny6511
@tanjohnny6511 4 жыл бұрын
Agree,it just doesnt add up.something is not right.
@alvinleong173
@alvinleong173 4 жыл бұрын
Send your kids overseas since that the case do not put your eggs in one basket
@DarkPa1adin
@DarkPa1adin 4 жыл бұрын
I thought those who couldn't get a job is because they didn't ace their exams? Not satki enough?
@skychaos87
@skychaos87 4 жыл бұрын
Education as jobs requirement is so 70s 80s mentality. While it worked back the, today the world is globalizing and heading towards the 4th industrialization of A.I and automation. Generic education like O, A and even degrees are less important when most entry level jobs can be replaced by A.I and automation. What the world today needs is specialization and skills which our education system did not focus on. We were ahead of the curve in the 80s 90s making Singaporeans generally educated and literate in order to attract foreign investments and businesses. But today most Singaporeans are behind the curve when the world needs specialized skills, be it arts, musics, coding and creativity tasks etc that cannot be replaced by A.I and automation. We need to revamp our educational system and direction.
@acheeyk
@acheeyk 4 жыл бұрын
Policy failure,first class uni no talents ???? Selfish Foreigners never transfer knowledge or they had none to transfer ???
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
My comments are usually met with criticisms and sarcasm, becuase the truth hurts, we have lots to learn . I don't care what you say, the truth are these, these are my experiences during my travels over the last 20 years, and this is why many Singaporeans today have yet to be headhunted and to be top global positions around the world. We have good leaders in corporations, but we need to create more. And these global jobs comes with a price, that's global experience. true global experienbce is not just about being in the USA, AUSTRALIA OR THE UK, where everyone has been to. To be a global leader, you have to learn about life and tha comes with sufferings and lessons in several foreign countries.
@sabrisabtu2214
@sabrisabtu2214 4 жыл бұрын
I would say that's reasonable. Partly Its attributed to the small nation that we are. For most of us, we need not even step out of this country because everything is within reach. Education, jobs, they're all no more than 30-40km away. Theres no need to leave your family at 18 and start living by yourselves. It's also a life some of us choose to live. To be close to loved ones and relatives. But, we cannot ignore those of us who are ambitious, who have the global experience and acumen. I cannot believe that right now, in the 20th century Singapore still cannot produce the right people for said high positions. Of course, I wish to avoid suggesting military generals to take any of these positions.
@tonymoly8739
@tonymoly8739 4 жыл бұрын
Singaporeans have it too good for the past 20-30 years. We lack exposure and tough gruelling in our lives and are happy just staying in our backyards. What we can do is to train our young to have more confidence, leadership, adaptability and survival skills. Being book smart simply ain’t enough. Many lack confidence and eloquence to even speak their mind and express themselves well. I’m working on my 3 kids to up their skills in these areas as I can see MOE is not nurturing them much in these areas. Even some of their teachers bully them because they know the students don’t usually fight back being inarticulate, docile, submissive, apathetic and indifferent. It’s a worry how we are churning out our young people and the kind of roles they will play when they enter the workforce.
@sabrisabtu2214
@sabrisabtu2214 4 жыл бұрын
@@tonymoly8739 thats great what you're doing for your kids. I agree.. articulation is lacking these days. Yes, our edcation system is geared to just churn out top paper qualifed graduates, many without sense of reality. As soon as they step out theyre shocked or become uncompetitive. We cannot depend or leave it up to the system.
@tonymoly8739
@tonymoly8739 4 жыл бұрын
@Sabri Sabtu ...agreed. EQ is also important. It impacts every aspect of our lives, especially the workplace. Great leaders have very good EQs.
@OnMusicSoon1
@OnMusicSoon1 4 жыл бұрын
I always think we can compete with anybody in the world and i also think that Minister Ong is eloquent and has intelligent mind. I clicked this video because it shows him speaking in parliament. I'm just curious whether there is a fair ground to compete with foreigners in the ocean.
@maureenkam9212
@maureenkam9212 4 жыл бұрын
Singapore is a little red dot.
@skychaos87
@skychaos87 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelyeo4808 Singapore is a pond that does not have the necessary ecosystem to survive, namely the lack of natural resources and land mass. Which is why Singapore MUST be opened to the world and connect to the ocean. But that also means Singaporeans have to compete with the world. While Singaporean in the 70-90s were extremely competitive, in today's world of A.I and automation(the 4th industrialization), we are now behind the curve with our old generic general education. What the world needs now are specialized skills be it arts, music, coding and creativity based skills etc.. Not the generic education of O and A levels where most knowledge and teachings are easily accessible by googling on your phone. Even accounting, financing etc can all be replaced by A.I. Doctor and lawyer jobs are not safe either. Singaporeans are falling behind the curve and falling fast because of how fast the world and technology is advancing. It doesn't seem like our education system can catch up anymore. The reality of capitalism is cruel, and we cannot remain closed given our circumstance. IMO the talks of foreigners taking our jobs are missing the point. We should be talking about revamping our educational system and also improve our socialist policies to help Singaporeans falling behind to move forward. I think we need something like Universal basic income.
@Gl3nnLim
@Gl3nnLim 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, 40 50years ago we do need foreigners to take those senior position due to lack of education and knowledge. But in this day and age, are Singaporeans still not educated or good enough for the jobs despite our years of education? If thats the case, are you stating that MOE is not doing a good job? Big fish in the pond vs Small fish in the ocean. We should face the issue on how we can make our citizens the big fish in the ocean. But how can we do that if the gov constantly feed the other fishes and starve their own fishes of food which will hamper their chance to grow?
@limlisa
@limlisa 2 жыл бұрын
Dont agree
@turtlegeneral
@turtlegeneral 4 жыл бұрын
How PAP can simultaneously claim that they put Singaporeans' interests first, while asserting that new jobs do not have to go to Singaporeans - this is something that only Singaporean voters will buy; in any other country a government that does not protect its own citizens interests can expect to face massive uproar and be promptly voted out in the elections. But in Singapore there will be no change in the foreseeable future - the elite minority who benefit from lax economic policy are too self-centred to vote against it, while the working-class majority is ignorant to the fact that they deserve better - all thanks to decades of highly efficacious brainwashing.
@CringeBasedDuality
@CringeBasedDuality 4 жыл бұрын
"Many of our own rose to senior ranks" Where are the stats on this? How many is "many"? How senior is "senior"?
@helenpang7777
@helenpang7777 4 жыл бұрын
Many of these are now in the mid 60s and have retired.
@CringeBasedDuality
@CringeBasedDuality 4 жыл бұрын
@@helenpang7777 What are the current stats relative to the mid 60s? Since CECA was signed, has the number of singaporeans (excluding PR converts) that rise to senior ranks decrease? By how much? Also, how senior is senior? CEO? Or Whatsapp group admin?
@mindtwister1984
@mindtwister1984 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously, do you think PAP prefers the top jobs to go to foreigners? Or it is because we do not have that many top local talents that have the experience and depth of running huge MNCs? DBS has continuously allowed foreign leadership to run the bank so that the mid level local management can learn from the experience of globalised talents. I am sure the DBS board would one day make the decision when a top local honcho is ready for the position. Isn't Singtel and Capitaland run by Singaporeans?
@sanjay8854
@sanjay8854 4 жыл бұрын
Just few days ago Leong say he's ok "with the current foreign talent model", now he contradict his own statement by bashing DBS CEO being "not homegrown"! I'm sorry BUT I would love if Mr Leong keep his mouth shut until he knows what to say and talk about! This is the highest forum in the country and he still got time to say "I think"..blah blah blah!! u think who confirm?
@kryptictan9301
@kryptictan9301 4 жыл бұрын
CECA. Enough said
@philipchan1856
@philipchan1856 4 жыл бұрын
PSP Leong was saying it is ok with current foreign talent model but need measures to ensure there is skill transfer and eventually taking over the role.
@cchan571
@cchan571 4 жыл бұрын
@@kryptictan9301 this guy who comment above probably is CECA turned PAP voter
@teyhoonboon5853
@teyhoonboon5853 4 жыл бұрын
Opposition party only has interest to gain immediate instead of longterm benefits to quickly replace the foreigners with Singaporeans. It may turn around the Singapore to be an ordinary country like others. Singapore may lose its ability to attract investments, talents and opportunity of new jobs for Singaporeans.
@turtlegeneral
@turtlegeneral 4 жыл бұрын
Singaporeans are already feeling the effects of their jobs being lost to foreigners. Right now.
@fresred
@fresred 4 жыл бұрын
When you start asking why the people in C-suite positions are not held by Singaporeans, I think the debate on foreigner vs local talent has gone too far. C-suite positions are usually sourced internationally. I think the question should be whether Singaporeans are capable of taking up C-suite positions in international companies. Ask if Singaporeans are being head-hunted for such positions globally. PSP has taken this debate too far. How many C-suite positions can there be anyway? I agree with the initial discussions to help groom local talents on the junior and middle management levels, but this no.
@drawinjackson6324
@drawinjackson6324 4 жыл бұрын
Do you mean Singaporeans are not capable of taking up C-suite positions in international companies?
@YK-fb7qp
@YK-fb7qp 4 жыл бұрын
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@YK-fb7qp
@YK-fb7qp 4 жыл бұрын
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@YK-fb7qp
@YK-fb7qp 4 жыл бұрын
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@fresred
@fresred 4 жыл бұрын
@@drawinjackson6324 No, I am not saying that Singaporeans are not capable of being in C-suite positions. Rather, I believe the question to be asked is, why should a Singaporean be the CEO of DBS? I will like to hear the proponents' views on this matter. LMY also talked about "Singaporeans will be groomed to take over the job". Well, unless you are one of the founders of the company, it is unlikely that a company will "groom" a person all the way up to the CEO level. Why? The reason is because someone who has stayed in the same company for years will not be able to bring new perspective to the company. Yes, the person may be very familiar with the workings and processes of the company, but the person would not have the knowledge or experience from working at other companies. This is why company will seek new blood to join their ranks. They want people who can bring in fresh perspectives, along with a wealth of experience in a similar industry.
@foundx8426
@foundx8426 4 жыл бұрын
May I know who is the third speaker?
@shelby3755
@shelby3755 4 жыл бұрын
That’s S Iswaran, Minister for communications
@JackyMan22
@JackyMan22 4 жыл бұрын
I hate capitalism. ._.)
@aliciali6257
@aliciali6257 4 жыл бұрын
Second
@sktanable
@sktanable 4 жыл бұрын
The medium fish will get eaten by the big fish in the ocean. The big fish will eat all the small fish in the pond. Both ways also die.
@familychan3577
@familychan3577 4 жыл бұрын
Shameful speech to divide the Singapore society, with this constant division it'll eventually make the children and spouse who're new citizen to be discriminated too, have some compassion, we're human 1st.
@sanahsamad8106
@sanahsamad8106 3 жыл бұрын
I think Singapore become rich,because before British time, all the Singaporean workes ritiare at ege 55 they all get thire retiare money in full pay the from the Gorvement, but now days when Singaporean retaires when the age 55 they only get 5 ,000 / the balance money Goverment keep, and peoples still have to works again to made money , British time when you 55 years retires you get all you money,no works any more rest your life with your family ,that all what I know how many peoples get retiares every years, plust GST money ,Goverment colect from Singaporean who do the shopping ,that all the money come from made Singapore rich, thank you
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
Kuma, telling someone that I have been to Austrlia, the USA, or UK, where everyone has been to isn't really global. Having been to one country isn't a sign that you pocessed global experience especially, when you have only lived in English speaking countries. Go to china, India, Latin America, Africa, Inner Europe, learn their languages, let them challenge you, work and create results with them. Only then, can you say that you are truly global . From your CV, headhunters can see that you are adaptable, you have good social skills, you have recommendation letters, you have colleagues as your reference from all around the world, you have worked in different industrial settings, in several areas and you are most likely not to fail. Most importantly, Australia and UK are not the biggest economy at the moment, Latin America, Middle east, China, India, Developing nations of SE asia like vietnam are rising, Manufacturing companies and business leaders wanna see that you have real knowledge of developng and rising economies. These places are challenging and you learn a lot more. Prior to his current position in the middle east, My husband's Austrian Boss , has workd and lived in Iraq, Morocco, India, China, Hongkong, singapore, Germany and France, he was headhunted in his mid 50s, My husband is in his early 50s and he has worked and lived in India, China, Brazil, Middle east, Finland, Estonia . Do you see just one of two countries there? This is the third time my husband has been headhunted. Our Singaore MOM can't make us managing directors or CEOs, we have to show global employers that we have made an effort and we are worth it. And we shouldn't also expel ALL foreign talents in top positions, cause we don't know their backgrounds and how much effort they have sacfriced to make it to to where they are now. We can't say that we have global experience just by working from Shenton way in several MNCs. That's not real global experience, if you have only lived in Singapore and you are just travelling for business trips. If you don't live in a foriegn setting, you don't really know what's happening there and neither is your heart there.
@alanooi1005
@alanooi1005 4 жыл бұрын
Microsoft and Google CEO is not american- born, but USA allow them to run these company as they are the best talent to run the company as long as they are American regardless natural-born or converted. Compare the population size of USA and Singapore, do USA should only allow natural-born american to run S&P 500 company? USA didn't as they want to make the economic pie bigger so that everyone benefit from trickle down effect. Natural Born Singaporean definitely have the talent to run all corporation in Singapore but definitely the economic pie will much smaller and GDP per capita will be lower as well.
@beejoooh5216
@beejoooh5216 3 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't one be of GREAT concern when the state-own bank which handle all ministers pay-roll and our CPF Fund investment - are handle by programs written by foreigner? so what if a foreigner were made PR. In the pass even inter-dept marriage within the Bank is NOT allow. What kind of country Risk management have we put in place. ??
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
KUMA .... KUMA, I can feel your pain. KUMA
@dingdangshow1466
@dingdangshow1466 4 жыл бұрын
Senpai Leong - relax! You are doing fine!
@ngrobert5054
@ngrobert5054 4 жыл бұрын
make ahhhaaaaaaaaaaa, make it clear
@Ghostttboii
@Ghostttboii 4 жыл бұрын
Singapore GOVT are just going to repeat the same thing and over and over and over again , if one day i lost my memory and opened my eye the first question i'll ask myself is *is this what modern hell looks like?*
@TET2005
@TET2005 4 жыл бұрын
As like repeating from history textbooks in examination.
@TaeNyFan
@TaeNyFan 4 жыл бұрын
To be honest these opposition MPs are just wasting precious parliament time.
@advin3115
@advin3115 4 жыл бұрын
So you are a foreigner
@sabrisabtu2214
@sabrisabtu2214 4 жыл бұрын
You're comment is wasting time..
@wongon1168
@wongon1168 2 жыл бұрын
This patern old style it's cooy
@HappyBoyWorld
@HappyBoyWorld 4 жыл бұрын
Small fish- medium fish? You guys clearly forgotten what we really are, we are venomous prawns. Just pick the right whale to follow, choose, America or China, it is that simple. If only they had the foresight to pick America. We would have taken in more MNCS that is leaving China and Hong kong, instead, now they are going to Taiwan and Vietnam. Sian.
@sgfuture9472
@sgfuture9472 4 жыл бұрын
We have One of the TOP Education System in the World.. Yet We still need To Bring in Foreign Expertise to Groom Local Talent...🤔
@belowaverage9465
@belowaverage9465 4 жыл бұрын
Examples are mother tongue....
@hq5105
@hq5105 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it’s not the top education system and most male sg grads are behind global grads due to NS. MNCs see Singapore as a place to locate regional HQ for Asia. They don’t care where the talent comes from, local or foreign. If Singapore makes it hard to bring in the personnel they want, they can easily leave, which is worse for us. Singaporeans just have to compete like everyone else, but maybe the gov should reconsider handicapping their grads with NS
@Misakasaigao
@Misakasaigao 4 жыл бұрын
We only got 3.5m Singaporean, even we have a good edu sys, we will only have enough GOOD people but we won’t get enough OUTSTANDING people out of limited population to sustain and develop this international hub, there will still be better foreign talents out there that we can and we should attract, and that’s y we stress quality over quantity, hope this makes sense
@hopessdopess
@hopessdopess 4 жыл бұрын
@@Misakasaigao @HQ Both of you, preach louder so that more people need to see these kinds of logical reasoning. :) The both of you could not have said it any better.
@bornfree3531
@bornfree3531 4 жыл бұрын
We have a good education system but not entrepreneurial....previously MNC bring in top talent and we absorb ideas from them...now all kinds of foreigners invade our workplace as clerks, accounts,IT...like snakeheads in Florida...we are unable to get rid of them.
@dingdangshow1466
@dingdangshow1466 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody is talking about limiting our pond, Minister Ong. Quota is not the right method. But we need to have a system to "force" transfer of knowledge from FT to local.
@JGreen-ec9uo
@JGreen-ec9uo 4 жыл бұрын
Better we force companies to and let them leave and we sit home play mahjong
@dingdangshow1466
@dingdangshow1466 4 жыл бұрын
@@JGreen-ec9uo well, it is all about fine balance here.
@Reggaeton_Karaoke
@Reggaeton_Karaoke 4 жыл бұрын
Think it through. How Long do you think foreigners will keep coming if you are going to kick them out after 2 years. Would you move to another country if you could only stay for 2 years.. how would you feel? Would you feel welcome, included? Would you want to help transfer your skills to that country’s workforce?
@dingdangshow1466
@dingdangshow1466 4 жыл бұрын
@@Reggaeton_Karaoke I dont think we should be adopting rigid measures like "kick FT out after 2 years"; rather we should be adopting a general principle like senior FT should mentor and transfer knowledge junior Singaporeans
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
Kuma, why are you resending the same response back to me? Are you running out of words to say?
@helenpang7777
@helenpang7777 4 жыл бұрын
Yes in the 80’s and 90’s we were able to climb the corporate ladders to higher management positions. That is because we were given opportunities by those chiefs of foreign banks and MNCs. Today our people have lesser opportunities because of this great influx of foreigners competing with us for the same jobs made worse with hiring managers of their own kind who deliberately side lined our ppl and despite bringing up the unfair practices, MOM turned a deaf ear till it went out of control. Our own ppl were already doing very well even in those early years as the financial hub of the region and made ourselves known globally. It is really because of you the Govt who has set us backwards and impede our advancement now by flooding us not with ppl better than us but worse than us in terms of qualifications, experience and universities they hailed from. Some even with degrees from degree mills which you blatantly recognised! It is not that we don’t welcome smart ppl or are not open to outside competition. It is so clear that all of you in this debate just don’t want to admit your bad mistake or do anything to address the problem, to stop this inflow of mediocre ppl. Btw, we were already good sized fish in the ocean and could nurture our own to even better sizes if we have a Govt who is pro Singaporean but instead ikan bills were brought in and treated like trophy fish, gobbling our young frys and impeding their growth!
@logicrule
@logicrule 4 жыл бұрын
This guy sounds like he has a bit of Hong Kong Accent
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
Dear food for thought, I wonder if you have any common sense? CRETIVE TECHNOLOGIES was created in Singapore, without any foreign companies stopping it from happening, Countries like Finland and Singapoe have low rates of entrepreneurships because of our social safety net and our rigid education system which emphasis too much in academics. Even finland has more inventions because they do not believe in rigidness and likes to apply what they have learned immediately, but their high taxes and social safety net discourages entrepreneurships and invesments. If singapore wanna see more inventions, you gotta learn to start being hungry and compete with others, learn from foreign talents, Singapore lacks scientists, technologists, thinkers, inventors, innovators, language experts, globally well experiencedl corporate leaders etc.? ARe you having all that? Are you having a competitive edge? Do you have oil, gold, minerals, land and water? No. do you speak multiple languages? NO To all of the above. Then why are you blaming others for having those talents? Have some guts, go out there to other countries, compete with others for a job, suffer, learn, pick up a new language, invent something and bring your ideas home. The more you travel the less you know, the world is so big. You are just an empty barrel making a lot of noise. You can't afford to have YOUR ego.
@MegaTonyng
@MegaTonyng 3 жыл бұрын
This PsP guy is fumbling.
@billhong4216
@billhong4216 4 жыл бұрын
We are basically a small fish in a pond. We may strive to swim in a lagoon but to do so we might have to face challenges, then to overcome the obstacles that might endanger ourselves. Nevertheless, we may try it with caution. The fact is, the pond naturally has more than enough food for the small fish. In terms of food sustainability, there is really no difference between living in a pond and living in a lagoon. So, venturing into an ocean is done out of quenching the thirst for self-gratification and curiosity. Or, it’s done out of an extreme sense of wanting to prove to the ocean creatures that “we are not that small, we can and we want to also play on your turf”. Do small fish really need to swim in the ocean? Swimming in the ocean is too far beyond our natural ability, we will get eaten up or get annihilated in no time. The bottom line is, we must not, at any point in time, ignore our inherited circumstances and the limit of our ability and resources, strive to attain something that would be too much to swallow, and along with the action hurting ourselves. The small fish cannot afford to lose in the environment of an ocean where much bigger fish abound. Don’t try to imagine, not even for a split second, that we can be a “medium-size fish” in an ocean, because we are not, and we can never be !! We have to learn to be modest and humble. Modesty is a virtue, the earlier we know that as a country, the better our path will be towards nationhood.
@diesopain260
@diesopain260 2 жыл бұрын
We are a small fish in a fish tank
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
Kuma, are you connected to Rameesh? Ai ya, both of you are relatives? Birds of feather flock together. Take this lesson, whether you like it or not, there are returning Singaporeans from overseas who has obtained more knowledge than you, there will still be globally well experienced expatriates arriving to Singapore to set up their headquarters in our country, there will still be chinese investors coming to Singapore, you are closed up in your mind, but our goverment and many Singaporeans are not. If you wanna practise racial discrimination against westerners and talent discrimination against returning singaporans, go to the jungles and live. Losers like you don't strive hard, you just blame others. You don't belong to our country, go back to where your ancestors came from? You are a closed up and isolated person. Are you a teenager?
@james8110
@james8110 3 жыл бұрын
sg how big comparing others. how to be a sea
@colinchia5318
@colinchia5318 4 жыл бұрын
Bias
@leelilian7514
@leelilian7514 4 жыл бұрын
Unjustified proposal, luckily not elected..Lol
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
Kuma, my maid is looking for a spouse, for their matchmaking culture. I thought you both may fit well together, since you are so ill knowledged. That may give you a chance to go home to India and reduce your grievances against US Singaporeans.
@antonette2113
@antonette2113 4 жыл бұрын
small fish eaten by ocean sharks!!
@roughneck1972
@roughneck1972 4 жыл бұрын
LKY said we are poisonous shrimp
@JGreen-ec9uo
@JGreen-ec9uo 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously la pls get to the point. Omg is this MP or what?
@winniedkwang
@winniedkwang 4 жыл бұрын
Omg ye kun, please cite cases
@bramptonwicks1863
@bramptonwicks1863 4 жыл бұрын
Well said oyk.u hit nail..just mint new sinkies to make pap proud
@amneyz5809
@amneyz5809 4 жыл бұрын
Stop using that word sinkies! This is an insult.
@bramptonwicks1863
@bramptonwicks1863 4 жыл бұрын
@@amneyz5809 haha...sinkie
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
Kuma, after the first capital letter J, you don't need to use capital Y anymore in the middle of your sentences? Are you well trained in school? I am glad that you have written my name right this time after I have pointed out your mistakes, I am also glad that I have made an impact on you. I understand that people like you aims to be a successful globally well experienced person, but you can't obtain that success, that's why you are jealous. And you try to sarcastically expel those who are more knowledgeable than you? By the way, your sentences are really short, are you not capable of reasoning in long sentences? Or are you like Trump, who just tweets in short sentences because of your limited intelligence? I think you are from CECA, don't come to our country, we don't need people like you.
@kumabs998
@kumabs998 4 жыл бұрын
jennifer( as per your unconventional profile). Short sentences are precise and to the point. Long winded sentences are ramblings ... you really need to compress them to put across your points effectively. Please reply directly to my comments and not “hide” it in another section of comments. Thanks.
@POVOwnmind-qy9zx
@POVOwnmind-qy9zx 4 жыл бұрын
Wah Lau.. how to represent opposition like that... Standard cannot la... some more talking about foreign talent... local talent like our opposition standard. Hum.
@sg8888888
@sg8888888 4 жыл бұрын
🤣😅😂🤑💵💰❌
@POVOwnmind-qy9zx
@POVOwnmind-qy9zx 4 жыл бұрын
Opposition BOH BOH shooters... aim not so good lei.
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
Dear MA MA's boy K. C. for your information, I am a traditional chinese mum of 2 singaporean children, I knew my husband in the same corporation where we worked 20 yeas ago and I am allergic to alchohol, thus we never go to pubs. I spent most of my time studying and taking care of my family, I have no idea what an SPG is, People who stereotype are people who lacks knowledge becaue they do not have any foreigner friends or foreign counterparts and colleagues. I believe you have very little foreigner firends that's why your knowledge about the outside world is very limited. Perhaps, your mother can teach you some. Even your maid is more international than you. Are you a mama' boy? Do you dare to look at the mirror and come face to face at your own weakness? Are you the type to stereotypes and walks away because you do not have the capacity to compete? Thus you hit others?
@cng1604
@cng1604 4 жыл бұрын
Wow quite disappointed on PSP speech maybe he should speak in the Japanese language can presentation better
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
Kuma, judging from your name, I cam feel your pain. Have you had problems gaining recognition from our society?
@kumabs998
@kumabs998 4 жыл бұрын
@jennifer( using your unconventional profile name). Where we are headed to , we don’t really need recognition from society. Such recognition is temporary...
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
Kuma, are you from the dormitories? You discriminate my European husband, I can discriminate you as well. My opinions came from my travels and overseas experiences from the last 20 years, if you don't like to hear the truth cause it hurts, you don't have to. But don't discriminate and perform racism upon us. Racism is illegal in Singapore, please remember that. You may be a foreigner in Singapore, but learn about our laws please.
@kumabs998
@kumabs998 4 жыл бұрын
jennifer ( using your unconventional profile). If this is your so-called global experience, I don’t want any of it , thank you but no.
@susanngin3481
@susanngin3481 4 жыл бұрын
It seems spore hv no local talented people. So who are those debating in the house. Does tat mean spore needs foreigners to run spore to form a new govt.....what a joke.... Spore needs foreign expertise to groom local then I think it shd start off with the govt so as not to get lower % in 5 yrs time.
@tanjohnny6511
@tanjohnny6511 4 жыл бұрын
Agree,i will vote for jacinda arden to be our pm.
@chuak.c7349
@chuak.c7349 4 жыл бұрын
I will vote for trump
@maureenkam9212
@maureenkam9212 4 жыл бұрын
What I saw the greatest failure of local talents is that they are contented to be just an employee of an MNC whereas Chinese in Hong Kong, Taiwan or even China, they'll learn the rope and start their own business. They are never contented to be just an employee. They want to be their own boss, not wanting to be at anybody's mercy.
@b0yxx
@b0yxx 4 жыл бұрын
start in Singapore? how many has tried and failed?
@maureenkam9212
@maureenkam9212 4 жыл бұрын
Sev Haven’t you heard “Failure is one step nearer to success.”? How many times had Edison failed and was even ousted out of school before he became a success story? People who dare not walk out of their comfort zone will never understand. After all, we only live once and when we come naked and go naked.
@b0yxx
@b0yxx 4 жыл бұрын
@@maureenkam9212 Yes, but failing in Singapore costs you big time. The average person just can't handle the financial setback unless they have backing (rich parents etc)
@maureenkam9212
@maureenkam9212 4 жыл бұрын
@@b0yxx Start small think big. Do your best and God will do the rest. ☺
@maureenkam9212
@maureenkam9212 4 жыл бұрын
Kuma BS Nothing is easy.
@mvp2526
@mvp2526 4 жыл бұрын
singapore gov say forginers good good,but they cannot be ministers if not singapore gov cannot choose their own SAF general people and radio deejay to be ministers.
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
Dear EYES WIDE SHUT. Since when is the last time, you have worked overseas? I have studied in Europe and worked in the middle east in an enviroment runed by canadians, middle easterners and spaniards, through working with such foreigners, my eyes opened, they encouraged creativity and within year, I started to create learning materials that I may never would have been able to, if I were to work in Singapore only with the locals without international exposure. If Singapore goverment introduces foreign talents that our society lacks, then it's time to learn from them. Instead of being jealous of others and expelling their talents, go out there to other countries, get a job, learn from others and succeed. As for creative technologies, nobody is preventing you from becoming an entrepreneur. What's your complain? Can't be headhunted and be a leader? ANd you are running to our MOM and crying for a job? Can't compete with others? Is your EGO too high? Where's your entrepreneur spirit? Are you gonna only trade with yourself if you were to offend foreigners like that? Where's your consequential and hollistic thinking? IF YOU CAN'T BEAT THEM, JOIN THEM ( FOOD FOR THOUGHT) DON'T BLAME OTHERS FOR YOUR OWN FAILURES.
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
Then again, guys, the western counterparts are no better than us. When it comes to mid level positions, we are having better and more internationally exposed Singaporans . That's what I have observed. However, when it comes to VIce presidents levels, CFO, CEOs, MDs. Firms seek not academics anymore. One's ability to handle challenges and staffs from 6 different continents all at the same time, one's communication skills, one's ability to think hollistically not just within the Singapore and south east asian context. That's where we are limited. Idon't think it's just about our education, it's about one's ability to venture out to countries like mexico, India, vietnam, Eastern Europe and LIVE not just visit briefly , learn their language, read their newspapers, communicate with their staffs and rake results with them. Do that for at least 3 years. That's internationalism which firms wanna see. Europeans are willing to do that , because their high taxes and good education drives them overseas and they are willing to change and suffer in the expenses of having lower taxes and more salaries. But Singaporeans,..... our tax rate is the lowest in the world, even being in the UK is a step down for us. Their salaries are the same as ours yet their taxes are 40% for foreigners, yet their state education and medical effiicncy is a lot less effiicnet than Singapore. How do we obtain better international exposure if we can't suffer? Our beloved LEE KWAN YEW has created a paradise that we can't leave easily. Books and education cannot nurture us to be better leaders or speakers, we have to learn that on our own. We have to be willing to venture overseas and suffer.
@JCTPing88
@JCTPing88 3 жыл бұрын
7months old. I'm not too late to see such a knowledgeable comment
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
I agee with you Eurnice. I have myself , lived in India, china, brazil, Finland and currently in the middle east. We have also travelled to spain and Germany. My husband is a scandinavian and Singapore PRm, we are curently in the middle east. My observatios are similar to yours, many MNCs like to hire their own people with the same language and culture. However, many headhunters, consultants and leaders of MNCs have told us that top notch positions aren't about race anymore. it's about global experience which Singaporeans lack of because we do not have the ability to relocate easily with our families, live in a third world settings or survive in a totally different enviroment which does not speak our language, yet we have to produce results. Do we speak an european language? have we lived in another continent long enough? are we willing to suffer and compromise in a foreign land? My scandinavian PR husband speaks 4 languages, has worked in all areas of finance, manufacturing, IT in Brazil, India, China , western and eastern europe, opened offices in SOUTH east asia and he has been head hunted to the middle east to be in an arab company where he is only the few europeans amongst the majority arabs. Yet, he has suffered, learnt, stumbled, compromised and lived out of his comofort zone for the last 20 years, to be in a global position today. Nobody transferred any skills to him, he had to learn on his own. As a global leader, as a CEO or MD of a corporation in any country, the MOM should not step in to give you the job, you have to suffer and earn it on your own. Many finnish firms IN FINLAND, do not hire their own people as their CEOs, they headhunt. If you want DBS MD to be a singaporean, pls...... show me someone with good global experience. Look at the background of your current competitor.
@chuak.c7349
@chuak.c7349 4 жыл бұрын
Just a SPG .think she knows everything.
@vy3443
@vy3443 4 жыл бұрын
Foreigner or not, the best candidate should lead any company. You wouldn’t have such stupid arguments in other parts of the world. For example, Google/Microsoft/Apple etc do not make it mandatory that CEO needs to be an American. If this becomes worse, foreigners will start leaving and foreign companies will move to other parts of Asia.
@eyeswideshut8110
@eyeswideshut8110 4 жыл бұрын
You like many others totally failed to understand the issue. Top talents will find their way to the top BUT cronyism and nepotism should find their way OUT of the door. 1 brings in 10, you do the math, you can never beat the inside track. The government policies have FAILED to filter quality foreign talents from the tsunami of mediocre ones that have found their way into nation due to lax enforcement. It is time to exit the undeserving for we have no obligations to provide a job to non citizens. Leave if you must.
@editg121
@editg121 4 жыл бұрын
Cronysm happens unfortunately.. indians know that.. It is part of their caste system..
@beejoooh5216
@beejoooh5216 3 жыл бұрын
Google, Microsoft and Apple are founder, CEO is not important. CEO : Chief entertainment officer - how important can that be.
@daggyag9613
@daggyag9613 4 жыл бұрын
A big fish in a pond or a small fish in an ocean 🤦‍♂️
@maureenkam9212
@maureenkam9212 4 жыл бұрын
Fresh water fish can'+ go to ocean or they'll die.
@acheeyk
@acheeyk 4 жыл бұрын
He is confused.......another million ministers.
@JackyMan22
@JackyMan22 4 жыл бұрын
Singapore Schools are rigged with rich people bribing principals to appeal to their child's students. There is no such thing as peace in School. Only a cesspool of violence.
@mindtwister1984
@mindtwister1984 4 жыл бұрын
I guess everyone is going after the same pt. Keep the markets open and at the same time groom our own talents. Give ample opportunities for local talents to lead and at the same time, allow the best global talents to bring Singapore to the next level. The balance is something we have to find. Neither too far left or right.
@xmasticify
@xmasticify 4 жыл бұрын
few are still in the pond others may be in the Ocean. But note that some may be dying on the land that was once a pond
@jasonong5562
@jasonong5562 4 жыл бұрын
PSP Leong is not value-adding in the discussion. DBS is not led by a home grown Singaporean he criticized. My grandfather is also not a home grown Singaporean who he ran a company too. None of our forefathers are home grown, most from China, India, Malaysia and so on. Does he knows what he is talking?
@JGreen-ec9uo
@JGreen-ec9uo 4 жыл бұрын
True. Plus look at DBS , its not like before. Lot of technology and got to the PlazaSing branch what a good service. Free coffee some more
@eyeswideshut8110
@eyeswideshut8110 4 жыл бұрын
@@JGreen-ec9uo And that is because DBS employed foreign talents? Are you sure ?
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
Tip for you KUMA, if you wanna insult others or practise racism, be sure you are up to the arguement, you have just chickened out. Can't handle the heat? Are you from CECA? Have you been ousted from Singapore? Is that the reason why you are so angry with more successful Singaporans? Are you a coward? Tha'ts why you are practising racism? Shall i report you?
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
CHUA k. c. is a mama's boy who has not guts to go out of his country, thus he hits on everyone who have global experience. MAMA'S BOY. IF you insult others, others can insult you back as well. Life goes both ways, little boy. Ask your mum to make for you a hot chocolate for you, becuae you are too busy blaming others for having knowledge, why don't you go out and be the foreign talent yourself? Why insult others who are trying to share the truths about the world? No courage to face yourself? Coward? Ask your maid to serve you la! Aidin polka sina olet.
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
Goverments take in top talents to benefit our biomedical hubs and teaching positions such as professor and researcher positions in our universities, reknown economist like PARAG KHANNA has benefited our country and brought fame to us. He's an advisor to the white house and a frequent consultant for many programmes. Has it ever occured to you, EYES WIDE SHUT that your perception of foreign talents and their competition is only one sided? Have you noticed that most retailers are now Singaporans in the public sector? OUR MOM has removed all china nationals and singaporean entrepreneurs received benefits from our goverments while the private companies did not? There are singaporean's working in those companies and now they are out of jobs. Don't just blame foreign talents, like a coward. In the near future, most head quareters decoupling from China will come to our country in masses, suddenly you own family member mayl be working for a foreign company. Can you afford to offend others especially if you yourself are resource poor? The day you can put food on the table without coorporating with others is the day Singapore finds oil from our grounds ,or discovered minerals, gold and diamonds from our forests like Brazil or god miraculously emerged large lands from Malaysia to us. Till then, don't blame others, go out there, and be the foreign talent yourself, go to Europe, Australia, China or Latin america to compete with them, get some global experience instead of yanking on your chair and doing nothing. There are losers like you who are jealous of foreign talents or PRs and there are go getters who dare to improve themselves and compete with others out of Singapore. Which one are you? A winner or loser? Do you speak a foreign language fluently? Do you speak an European language? Can you compete with others? HAve you studied enough?
@josephlim6934
@josephlim6934 4 жыл бұрын
I say what the fuck!!! I am a former employer myself. I tell you local PMETs are good as foreign PMETs. I dont give a fuck if these local companies hire Sporeans but sad to say many local companies give priority to foreign PMETs because the stupid govt. set the pace 20 years back by importing these foreigners to convert them to new citizens to ensure the big voting base are being maintained to ensure win big mandate in every GE. The govt bull shit the people that we do not have the relevant experience for local PMETs to helm those high paying jobs. Then I tell you my fellowmen that the govt . has got all their educational policies all wrong. Spore universities are respected as one of the best globally and yet our local PMETs cannot helm DBS as the MD to name as an example. We have to import a foreigner to helm DBS and convert him to new citizen. My dear fellowmen, the Spore home grown companies like DBS and other govt. should employ Sporeans first. If foreign companies set up in Spore and hire overseas talent, then I have nothing yo complain about. But for our govt. to take advantage of our own people is totally wrong and yet spore let in lots of foreigners with dubious qualifications into our shores without really doing due diligence and resulting in preventing our local PMETs from securing good jobs. So I tell you my fellowmen please vote wisely for change in the next GE in 2025!!! pap pl do not treat us like idiots and in due time we shall ensure your tenure as sn elected govt. will be short lived with our voting rights!!!!
@zhouzhou2382
@zhouzhou2382 4 жыл бұрын
Lky build for nation but destroy by big and small fish
@eyeswideshut8110
@eyeswideshut8110 4 жыл бұрын
The startling difference between PM Modi and our policitans is...Modi will always say they have the most amazing talents, citing all the CEOs while his country remains in gridlock forever. Our policitans tell you day in day out that you are not good enough, 30 years later, the same rhetoric will be repeated like a broken recorder. There is simple no National Pride.
@limlisa
@limlisa 2 жыл бұрын
nation pride can make the country prosper?
@havokd6097
@havokd6097 4 жыл бұрын
If they only groom their own foreign people and only give their own foreign people the job, how's that giving to the citizens? Is it really a need for only foreign people to groom the citizen and not our our own citizen groom ourselves? The more those people try to explain, the more the pressure goes up. Till the pressure cooker explode someday.
@ahnfarhan1986
@ahnfarhan1986 4 жыл бұрын
Why is he muttering?🤦🏻‍♂️After being asked if he is making a clarification or not?.. oh dear.... but its ok. We r all humans anyway.. Courage beats anything in the house😅
@helenpang7777
@helenpang7777 4 жыл бұрын
Ahntonio Cassano Dont forget this is their first appearance in parliament. Of course not as confident yet. Even veterans like Heng SK fumbles and stutters when caught off guard or asked more difficult question.
@angtathwee9576
@angtathwee9576 3 жыл бұрын
He is Ikan king of course
@oo-oe4km
@oo-oe4km 4 жыл бұрын
why is minister ong MOT talking about FT issues? isn't it MOM area?
@peterchew4018
@peterchew4018 4 жыл бұрын
She is still crying...
@cchan571
@cchan571 4 жыл бұрын
@@peterchew4018 wayang theater finish alrdy but she dk when to end performance
@acheeyk
@acheeyk 4 жыл бұрын
Right, only ministers is multiple talents. Jack of all trades master of none.
@peterchew4018
@peterchew4018 4 жыл бұрын
Price of tissues are set to rise ...y...the crying game will be the trend...LW,JT,...who next...wannnaa bets
@nedunjeliannarayasamy5477
@nedunjeliannarayasamy5477 4 жыл бұрын
As a Singaporean would like to know if Malaysian Chinese are also considered foreigners because none can be noticed as foreigners as they easily pass through as a local Chinese.
@drawinjackson6324
@drawinjackson6324 4 жыл бұрын
sadly, Iet me see... Is a pakistani considered an Indian national?
@tonymoly8739
@tonymoly8739 4 жыл бұрын
If you understand Mandarin, you can differentiate the local Chinese from the foreigners. Usually Malaysian Chinese speak Mandarin with a different accent and they don’t sound too good. PRC people residing here speak differently too, in fact their Mandarin is of proper standard.
@drawinjackson6324
@drawinjackson6324 4 жыл бұрын
@@tonymoly8739 Proper standard with reference to Malaysian chinese or?
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
Kuma, i don't mean to insult you, but since you have insulted my husband, I will just spell it out, If our family walks in the streets, nobody will think that we are from CECA or from the dormitories, but I can't say the same for you. And just a little bit of extra education for you since your standards and global knowledge is so limited, PAPA NEW GUINEA, is a former eastern part of Indonesia. SCANDINAVIANS ARE FROM THE WESTERN PART OF EUROPE. My husband is from Finland. Which part of India are you from? Don't go to little india pls, you might be asked if you are from the dormitories. There you go, you and your papa new guinea knowledge. Are you from bangladesh? KUMA....... my current maid in the middle east is from there.
@kumabs998
@kumabs998 4 жыл бұрын
jennifer ( using your unconventional profile) . You have insulted me at every turn ,moreover using gutter language. I am deeply offended .
@Hopehope
@Hopehope 4 жыл бұрын
foresight is needed. Does anyone has foresight on what the future brings and is? While dynamic, it is not impossible to have someone who can size up what the future lies... Relying on full data then calibrate is way too slow...
@jyju66
@jyju66 2 жыл бұрын
Why are many Singaporeans emigrating away from this lagoon? All countries are fishes in either ponds or lagoons..... we all swim strongly, avoiding predators and breed well in whichever water we call home. Always thanking God for His providence. We are not a stepping stones for opportunists.
@beejoooh5216
@beejoooh5216 3 жыл бұрын
40 years ago. EDB brought in MNC only for investment $$. They was not foreign expertise and is all Singaporean solutions to help them expand their businesses into the region. People like me and Mr. Leong had done our services for the country and the MNC to feel very frustrated when the Gov DO NOT GET it. To support the MNC's AP and the Globe business. I light sleep 2.5 hours for more than 15 years working around the clock. Got ill and SPINE break-fixed by the BEST Singaporean Surgeon. (Reputable AP Surgeon). And our minister still playing around with words. What threatening - voice of people versa voice of reason. People had voted the people representative to speak on behalf. As Government - please response to the situation. !!!!
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
Kuma, it's Jennifer, with a capital letter, not @jennifer. START your sentences with CAPITAL letters, do you have proper English training in your schools , in your own country before you came to Singapore? Your sentences though short, are full of mistakes.
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
Kuma, user name and written senences are written differently, can't you differentiate the difference between my profile name and the need for you to use proper capital letters when writing someone else's name? Did you pass your PSLE? Is that the reason why your sentences are so short without basis? Are you unemployed? Is that the reason why you are discriminating against others?
@magdalenekoh3584
@magdalenekoh3584 4 жыл бұрын
Mr Douglas Foo, you lost weight. Take care of yourself. Wish you and family members all the best. God bless, amen
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
KUMA, why do you wanna lie that you are from the Middle East? Is lying your middle name?
@samesamebutdifferent563
@samesamebutdifferent563 4 жыл бұрын
As parliamentarian, must be careful because what is said cannot be unsaid....like saying some people are free-riders. LOL.
@sabrisabtu2214
@sabrisabtu2214 4 жыл бұрын
It's always the opposition who are "reminded". Respect to tharman who said his colleagues left him an impression, although no names were mentioned.
@MegaTonyng
@MegaTonyng 3 жыл бұрын
Call a spade a spade. Protecting locals in banking is not going against the grain.... same way Spore Airlines has gradually replaced foreign pilots with local ones.
@moses_aqx
@moses_aqx 4 жыл бұрын
Ngl the title sounds like a math question
@janeyap3231
@janeyap3231 4 жыл бұрын
It gives an impression that our education is useless as we still said foreigners is a must to make SG. It is as good telling foreigners to come take over our nation because they r smarter n better than d local. So can India take over SG? Focus so much on foreigners and at d same time what did our govt do to protect us. How n in what way did SG ppl benefited. A handful of high position held by SG is considered we sg benefits. How come ppl r still struggling to make end meet. Or only d govt want to console themselves what they do is right becos they r highly paid. Why wud they see whether a sg is suffering.
@NEPtune-fy1ug
@NEPtune-fy1ug 4 жыл бұрын
sweeping statements and false dichotomies. just stop. many of our own singaporeans are working as foreign talent in other countries too. so if i use that argument your entire reason of a failed education system falls apart. one ceo of a bank in singapore is not equivalent to india taking over sg. this is just exaggerated nonsense. only part that i agree is the income inequality.
@cassandralee2404
@cassandralee2404 4 жыл бұрын
First
@kohfelix3387
@kohfelix3387 4 жыл бұрын
Give him some time...
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
Most foreign employers don't look at your academic scores, they always ask me during the interviews, " SHOW ME what you have done." The future of employers wants creativity, product knowledge, ideas , EXPERIENCE and one's ability to think out of the box. Our kids are already internationally quite exposed in Singapore, and we have the knowledge, we just need our schools to encourage us to focus less in scores , create, apply what you have learn. That's why the employment rate of ITE AND Polytechnic graduates in Europe is higher than univesity graduates. Learning and applying what you have learn is the 'THING' of the future. I hope our school systems will become more creative. Stream less and check our scores less. instead of learning how to score 98 marks, be contented with just 70 marks and channel the child's remaining 30 percent of brain energy in learning how to speak well, on the international level. We should bring some foreigner teachers to our neighbourhood schools!
@eyeswideshut8110
@eyeswideshut8110 4 жыл бұрын
America is the capital of what you have just described, yet they produce their fair share of economic poor. Money is in the hands of the elite, so, getting foreign teachers or teaching methods aren't the only routes, facilitating entrepreneurship in a big way will naturally create the scene you have described. We have not seen a CREATIVE TECHNOLOGIES since decades ago. Does it not pique your curiosity? Government may want to stop taking the top talents and release them to the private sectors instead. Food for thought.
@oterenceo
@oterenceo 4 жыл бұрын
I am disappointed in Leong Mun Wai. He was so impressive with his Japanese back when he was selected with Hazel. Now he is stammering. I am fine with Piyush being CEO. He did a great job. IMO Leong stated the wrong example. This goes to show that he lacked preparation necessary. He should have taken issue on why there is a lack of technology and know-how transfer. Take the building of our MRT lines for example. Look at HK and Taiwan. When they build their first line it was all foreign consultants and foreign contractors. Their second and subsequent lines are all local ! To this day Singapore is still using foreign consultants and contractors. Where is the technology and know-how transfer? Why do we still have such high leakages when Singapore do infrastructure building? The opposition parties are suppose to value-add to Singaporeans and Singapore. Ask the difficult questions. Mr. Leong Mun Wai did you do your homework? Your electorates are watching. Buck up!
@λάδα
@λάδα 4 жыл бұрын
But one pink was given decades to learn to do the job
@oterenceo
@oterenceo 4 жыл бұрын
@Stanislas Houston I can say I am disappointed because I am entitled to my own views. I did not say he does not have a good point I am saying he did not raise the correct example. READ my comments before you shoot off your mouth. Also Banking isn't just about academics. It is about connections and networks. It is about cutting deals, having clout and bringing in profits to the shareholders. In Singapore, it is about Meritocracy, Pragmatism and Honesty. We should strive to be discerning voters. I am not for PAP or for the Opposition. I am for Singaporeans and Singapore. In that order. We must never fall into the trap of partisanship where we blindly vote for one team or one party. We are NOT Americans. We are Singaporeans and We are certainly smarter than that. Rise above!
@acheeyk
@acheeyk 4 жыл бұрын
@Stanislas Houston I am also disappointed lhl about free riders comments.
@λάδα
@λάδα 4 жыл бұрын
@@dontbeAClown Yes, the resources given to them are too much including years and years if time to learn on the job. Terrence is misguided. No one has Monopoly over talents. Case in point, imagine if top 20% pap ministers resign and join Opposition, what is PAP? Out of fear, i say i dont know. Haha
@sabrisabtu2214
@sabrisabtu2214 4 жыл бұрын
So fast disappointed.. give them a while to warm up. Nobody is free from correction. They will get better in time.
@mark-yf8sm
@mark-yf8sm 4 жыл бұрын
They should cap. The foreigner and limt the best way to control the foreigner here. Because singapore is already over crowded by them .
@TechRajX
@TechRajX 4 жыл бұрын
PSP aint good opposition
@ghenghiskhan9308
@ghenghiskhan9308 4 жыл бұрын
Singaporean are ever learning and never able to reach the top. After so many years as a developed country, we are still inviting experts from developing countries to teach us so many things.
@maureenkam9212
@maureenkam9212 4 жыл бұрын
Learning never ends and the world keeps changing.
@ghenghiskhan9308
@ghenghiskhan9308 4 жыл бұрын
@@maureenkam9212 Was Confusius ever learning under a master?
@maureenkam9212
@maureenkam9212 4 жыл бұрын
Ghenghis Khan Learning takes many forms. Independent learning is also learning from others. Also, do I really care about this guy called Confucius? Jesus matters to me more. He has divine intelligence.
@seeerr5979
@seeerr5979 4 жыл бұрын
4:28 That means its okay to have foreigners to be minster who is better then our current ministers? U guys dont relate cuz u guys have no competition in seat like us fighting with foreigner. Talk only i also can
@ashunknown9728
@ashunknown9728 4 жыл бұрын
Foreigners being mp???
@seeerr5979
@seeerr5979 4 жыл бұрын
@@ashunknown9728 its just a reference, but as things goes why not ? 2020 already been so unpredictable :)
@NEPtune-fy1ug
@NEPtune-fy1ug 4 жыл бұрын
there was a foreigner turned singaporean running with opposition what
@alexwu3258
@alexwu3258 4 жыл бұрын
All job belong to foreigners in sg. Sc jobless lol
@billhong4216
@billhong4216 4 жыл бұрын
NCMP Leong has articulated the concern of our people, which is of high moral standard as a parliamentarian, and his words are a voice of reason. How else and on what basis he is considered unreasonable in his speech? The flow of logic is totally flawed.
@arrowstheorem1881
@arrowstheorem1881 4 жыл бұрын
Where is the grooming when Singapore need so much India nationals for IT alone? 22 years ago to now. What happened to the Grooming of Singaporeans to take over the IT or has it gotten worse?
@albinmathew5081
@albinmathew5081 4 жыл бұрын
IT field is very vast and dynamic. Only with continuous upgrading and long hours, once can continue in this line. IT skills are mostly self learning.
@arrowstheorem1881
@arrowstheorem1881 4 жыл бұрын
@@albinmathew5081 So you are saying Singaporeans are not capable of self learning?
@albinmathew5081
@albinmathew5081 4 жыл бұрын
@@arrowstheorem1881 My point is not just that. People only go hard way when there is no easyway. Indians learning IT because there is no other Engineering or Service field in India where the pay is that high for experts. This is the main reason Indian IT is booming and secondly people can learn it without Government investment. Just need a laptop and Internet. On the other hand there are many other areas or Jobs in Singapore where pay is equal or better without having that stress or hard ways. Who want to spend 18 hours infront computer if your pay is similar or lower than your friend.
@arrowstheorem1881
@arrowstheorem1881 4 жыл бұрын
@@albinmathew5081 Most jobs Singaporeans have to work long hours too. Not just IT. You are saying Singaporeans cannot learn IT nor keep up with IT
@albinmathew5081
@albinmathew5081 4 жыл бұрын
@@arrowstheorem1881 Sorry to say something here. I seldom see Singaporeans at PMET in office after 7pm. Yes they may stay back once in awhile but not regularly . Secondly you still don't get my point. Will you take a job having a same pay but need to work 18 hours including Saturdays or a job with 9am to 6pm.
@huatgoh3495
@huatgoh3495 4 жыл бұрын
Please lar all of you just work together to solve our issue don't just disagree because the opposite side bring some issue
@aave865
@aave865 4 жыл бұрын
At leash this guy speaks clearly with good diction. Paused whenever needed. Needs a little more firepower in his speech.
@jennifer-oc6io
@jennifer-oc6io 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Opposition, do you seriously think we can take over jobs and be global leaders just because someone conveniently transfer skills to us ? Leadership postiions have to be earned through global travelling, global experience, having lived , worked, studied and learned the different ways of business and cultures in several countries. You have to grab the job and the leadership positions on your own, our goverment isn't responsible for your top notich positions all the time. A headhunter once told us personally, that it's diffcult to find internatonally well experienced singaporeans that global firms are seeking, this is because singaporean's can't leave their culture, language, comforts of our home and our hawker centers. Leadership positions is about global experience not just skills transfer. Ask ourselves these questions, are we willing to relocate to another country with our families? Are we willing to abandon our own language and speak someone else's language,? are we gonna compromise in life? Can we produce first world results overseas in a third world settings? How many counties and how much of expeirence do we have globally? What is our general knowledge? Corporations seek such answers, not just academics and skills transfer. We are only 55 years old as a nation, we aren't mature yet. Having a degree doesn't mean you have the right to be in a job, we have to earn it, having maid doesn't mean we have to right to command her, being a singaporean doesn't mean we deserve it. Having money doesn't mean we have the right to call the shots. Most successful CEOs or CFOs in top notch positions in MNCs have lived in at least 2 continents and obtain global experience in several countries before they were headhunted. And yes, many of them also speak several languages and have worked in different cultural settings in different countries. What kind of experience must we have to replace people like that?
@maureenkam9212
@maureenkam9212 4 жыл бұрын
So true. True foreign talents are willing to trot the world and make the sacrifice. They either gain all or lose all. If they lose their job globally, they can't go home and start all over again as their peers will be far ahead. Moreover, most of them are on contract basis. Are local talents willing to take the risk?
@yea5458
@yea5458 4 жыл бұрын
An echo chamber with no practical solutions, what a waste of parliament time
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