How much does the Windows Community MVVM Toolkit REALLY help us?

[@joeprince7509]

I've done a lot of C# Winform development over the years, but I'm new to WPF. I've watched a ton of your videos and really enjoy your style and enthusiasm with how you approach teaching. As soon as I saw the MVVM Toolkit I was excited because I know you would teach it really well. As someone who is new to the MVVM architecture and WPF, would you be able to do a video on a simple real-world example implementing the MVVM Toolkit with page navigation? It seems like that would cover 80% of the applications out there and would help a lot of new programmers like myself out :) Thanks for all your awesome videos!

[@dasfahrer8187]

Good timing. Would love to see a series on how you'd use this.

[@metalnotis]

Yes, SingletonSean. You could refactor your Reservoom application using MVVM Toolkit, what do you think?

[@Anequit]

@@metalnotis Good idea!

[@SingletonSean]

Good ideas! I did this in a livestream (for MAUI), but it would be great to demonstrate this in a more focused video.

[@dasfahrer8187]

@@SingletonSean Maybe do WPF this time?

[@ghevisartor6005]

I love the community toolkit. Didn't know about the request reply feature of the messenger. Also is this usefull in any way in Blazor? I tried mvvm there but other that using viewmodels in collections it seems clunky. I guess it's just better to put everything in components and eventually if i really need to reause the logic for another ui framework, i would isolate just that. Idk...

[@XAMLLlama]

I just discovered someone presenting about using the MVVM Toolkit in Blazor here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmaWgWmAmpJ5mNUsi=fsG9pxHDbdCMf37-

[@josbexerra8115]

Excellent mister SingletonSean, an advanced tutorial on MVVM toolkit + syncfusion+ firebase + would be interesting

[@TioPew]

I think JamesMontemagno the creator of this toolkit has already did something like this.

[@pascalg6456]

THANKS ! A tutorial on navigation would be great

[@SingletonSean]

Indeed! It would be fantastic to build a WPF navigation mechanism on top of this that is similar to MAUIs.

[@colorblindzebra]

Hi Sean, can the WPF toolkit help in any ways for navigation? (they have wpf dependency injection too) Do you intend to make a tutorial for a complete app like your video 1 year ago using exclusively mvvm toolkit, with serialization of frameworkelement states? Thank you a lot

[@DeakonJim]

could do a wpf app with this? a video?

[@ivandrofly]

I also find class command more useful when testing

[@hanneskasel1853]

lol, it is really cool, however, since you are the only teach chad that goes under the hood , and i need to target a framework where the CodeGenerator won't work without extra effort. So yh I try to stay put to your content.

[@SirBenJamin_]

Personally, I'd recommend writing your own MVVM library, so you can have it just the way you want it.

[@parko1965]

Agree, personally I don't like using anything I have no control over.

[@SingletonSean]

I can understand this perspective too. I had been using my own library for the past few years and have had a good experience with that. I feel like some pieces of the toolkit could be useful in a custom MVVM library. For example, I might pull the toolkit into my own library just for the annotations 🤔 haven't decided if it's worth it though

[@aemarco]

or, writing your mvvm library, adding the stuff you want, and using the mvvm toolkit below your lib

[@mariocamspam72]

Sure, write an incremental sourcegen😼

[@ABMedia83]

Yep, I agree. Throwing your custom MVVM into a Class Library is not hard,. I don't understand these people who write it from scratch all the time.

[@Gazcan]

Thanks! A more comprehensive tutorial would be appreciated.

[@SingletonSean]

This will come! I realize this was more of an overview. Would be nice to see it in action and used more practically.

[@TioPew]

I still find MVVM sooo confusing.

[@Tanaka-Buchou]

If you want to learn MVVM, start by building a basic project with a single page and ViewModel e.g. A simple application that gets info from an API endpoint like NASA's APOD. Sean's MVVM videos are good but I have to admit that they are not for beginners.