SINNER v NOVAK in SHANGHAI: Andy Roddick’s take

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@salmaal-shaoily5809 2 ай бұрын

Jannik mental strength is exceptional, to go through what he is going through, winning so much, his exceptional talent, so much success at a young age, he is humble, down to earth, respectful, loyal, old-school discipline, hardworker, and intelligent. ❤ Good example to others.

@safiaandres7674 2 ай бұрын

Or he is influenced by substances?

@kostaVHjovanovic 2 ай бұрын

Exept for the obvious dopping

@danielgambetta8472 2 ай бұрын

@@kostaVHjovanovicthe stupid answer never comes from an intelligent person

@kostaVHjovanovic 2 ай бұрын

@@danielgambetta8472 do you have to say anything about the toppic or just made up folk wisdom that is not clever or funny

@davidemoretto-t3m 2 ай бұрын

@kostaVHjovanovic why, have you said anything about the topic, by any chance? You used the word "doping" related to Sinner and that is totally incorrect. ITIA ruled it was a contamination and WADA confirmed that. Contamination and doping are two very different things. Doping means willingly injecting performance enhancing substances, but this is not the case. Again, why you used the word doping? By the way, do you have anything to say about Sinner's tennis? What is your contribution to this commentary?

@mistal85 2 ай бұрын

Totaly agree his worst year is dream comes true for others

@Mntguy-nr9vl 2 ай бұрын

B******* he made it to like one final he won the gold medal good for him That's an accomplishment, but only one grand slam final that's actually kind of embarrassing.

@michael8597 2 ай бұрын

@@Mntguy-nr9vlNot many make even a grand slam semi final in their whole career. Ask Rublev. LoL 😂😂

@POK2008 2 ай бұрын

Making a semi, final, and winning gold for your country, and to complete the last thing there is for you to win, would be a career year for 98% of the tour

@c.c.blackwell9986 2 ай бұрын

@@Mntguy-nr9vl are you comparing him to the other top 10 players in the world this year or to the expectations Novak has set for himself in the past? Should medvedev, Zverev, Fritz, Rublev and Rudd all Be embarrassed this year? Oh And he had to have Knee surgery in the middle of the season. People were talking about him not even playing Wimbledon or the Olympics and he made the finals of both.

@kevinlakeman5043 2 ай бұрын

@@Mntguy-nr9vl No he didn't make 'like' one major final. Are you a 14 yr. old girl? He actually made it to the final. And it's no 'bull****' to say that a major final appearance & an Olympic gold would be a dream for 90+ % of players. The guy's 37 FFS! You're a clueless doof who I'm quite certain has never accomplished anything remotely close to either of those remarkable feats.

@ishanitapadar4327 2 ай бұрын

Fact : Novak's worst year could be someone's dream year ❤ AO : SF RG : QF - walkover Wimbledon : F Olympic: Gold 🥇 UO : 3rd round Shanghai Masters 1000 : F

@scara19 2 ай бұрын

Ok, TBH Wimbledon final and AO semis due to a very, very easy draw, no top ten player in both tournaments before Jannik and Carlos. His best tournaments were Olympics and Shangai where he played so good

@c.c.blackwell9986 2 ай бұрын

@@ishanitapadar4327 not to mention he had to have knee surgery at the worst possible time. People were talking about him not even playing Wimbledon or the Olympics. Also I don’t think people realize what happened in that gold medal match. An out of shape Novak on a bum knee reached back and found some of the best tennis of his life under the pressure of knowing this was his very last chance to win Gold for his county. Thats not normal…. Normal athletes can’t just do that under that kind of pressure.

@gablan1468 2 ай бұрын

I realized that the only people who criticise Sinner are either Djokovic or Alcaraz fans. Shame on you, guys. Better act like men and stop the hate, just enjoy the game.

@matmax6834 2 ай бұрын

Più tifoso di Djokovic direi, almeno in Italia stanno impazzendo, pensare che non c'è mai stato un tennista italiano come Sinner.

@ilpuro 2 ай бұрын

Jannik is the same player as before, his mental strength is just insane. He’s just lost his smile. Hopefully, he’ll get it back soon

@mireafelder8194 2 ай бұрын

Tbh he never had a smile.

@evan3087 2 ай бұрын

@@mireafelder8194😂 his real traits will disclose down the years

@mireafelder8194 2 ай бұрын

@@evan3087 He's already 23 years old, I watched him play like for 4 years, never saw him smile🤷 He's like a robot..

@evan3087 2 ай бұрын

@@mireafelder8194 I have seen it when he won tournaments. He internalises it more than showing it; If you watch his loss against Novak in Nitto atp 2023, he had that empty feeling before he took off the wrist band to shake his hand. It was evident in his eyes.

@mireafelder8194 2 ай бұрын

@@evan3087 So he "internalizes" his smiles, that's what you are trying to say with this? Jesus Christ... I never ever saw anybody internalize a smile in my life, lmfao. Maybe that's why Sinner will never be loved as much as Alcaraz is.

@CamiloCanonB 2 ай бұрын

It's good to listen to Andy 'common sense' Roddick every now and then

@acjohn6995 2 ай бұрын

Novak did look a little slow, legs were probably a little tired and he's getting older, it's gradual but noticeable. The fact that he's even making it this deep in tournaments against top 3 players is unreal. As I got older, I noticed my joints and explosion become weaker/slower, as well.

@ChiLPham 2 ай бұрын

he met no top 3 players before reaching the final. the highest ranked is Taylor Fritz, no. 7.

@michael8597 2 ай бұрын

@@ChiLPhamWhat he can do if those players lose early 😢😢 Second seed Sacha can't even beat Goffin and Alcaraz lost to Machac. LoL 😂😂

@ChiLPham 2 ай бұрын

@@michael8597 then what I said was true, wasn’t it - he didn’t win any 3 top players 🤡 and if Alcaraz won, he would have played Sinner, not Djokovic anyway lmao. so even if Zverev made it, Djokovic would have only played 1 top 3 players before reaching the final, not top 3 players like you said 🤡🤡🤡

@yanair2091 2 ай бұрын

@@ChiLPham Doesn't matter what rank are the players, he did play great agains Alcaraz in olympics and pretty good against Sinner in Shanghai. If he can only avoid strange drops in form like in US Open, he is still a big favourite against everyone but Sinner and Alcaraz.

@tylerbetthauser7647 2 ай бұрын

Even if Nole sticks around to troll the new kids for the next 4 years in grand slams it will be worth it.

@vukforest223 2 ай бұрын

@jooohan-i9owould you like that Rafa and Roger didn’t retire?Or you like it more seeing them retired?

@vukforest223 2 ай бұрын

@jooohan-i9o answer my question if you can

@mireafelder8194 2 ай бұрын

@@vukforest223 It's just unrealistic to think Novak will stick around for 4 more years.

@vukforest223 2 ай бұрын

@jooohan-i9o Novak just won 🥇 couple months ago and he’s playing finals(his worst season).As we know,you can’t exclude Novak from anything,he surprise you again again and again…Except his knee,he is still there,can win anything and anytime,depends only if he is motivated or not…Considering he won everything in EPIC way,it’s hard being 37 and father etc to motivate yourself after winning in life and wining on the court💫

@vukforest223 2 ай бұрын

@jooohan-i9o show some love to extend Goat history which we never seen before and we probably will not again..His every step on the court is blessing,for him and for us to witness❤️

@pacific559 Ай бұрын

It's not about Novak continuing to dominate, it's about him being a legend and us getting lucky enough to watch him play for as long as he does. Thanks for the memories Novak, and whatever you have left in the tank for our appreciation. I particularly enjoyed all the wimbledon matches. And by the way, in light of how the ATP finals went, Novak did alright against sinner, esp considering his age.

@epsilonbeta4877 2 ай бұрын

Just want to correct a thing. Novak's worst season was 2017, not 2024. Ok, he had a wrist injury, but still.

@michael8597 2 ай бұрын

He had an elbow injury and opportunistic Federer, as usual, leveraged it to the hilt and won three more slams. Once Novak came back from surgery he went to his shell as usual. 😂😂

@alburaq3290 2 ай бұрын

@@michael8597Opportunistic Djokovic won Slams against piss poor competetion from 2020 onwards beating guys like Kyrgios, Berrettini, Medvedev, Tsitsipas, Zverev. As soon as Sinner stepped up Djokovic suddenly started looking old and injured lmao 😅 We'll get more excuses next year when Sinner thrashes him even more.

@michael8597 2 ай бұрын

@@alburaq3290 He was dominating the same Sinner and Alcaraz till last year. LoL 😂 😂 Both of them despite being 14 yrs and 16 yrs years younger were playing second fiddle to him which should be most embarassing for them because this has never happened in tennis history. LoL 😂😂😂 They are infact taking advantage of a 37 year old injured Novak. And Sinner needs high quantum of d0p1ng even to beat this version of Novak. LoL 🤣🤣 Of his 24 slams, Novak beat top 10 players in all except for Kyrgois. Frauderer on the other hand beat 4 unseeded players, an oldie on the verge of retirement and teens Nadal and Novak to win most of his slams. LoL 🤣🤣

@michael8597 2 ай бұрын

@@alburaq3290 Both Sinner and Alcaraz are only dominating the same competition along with a Grandee - Novak - who plays Tennis part time. LoL 😂😂

@michael8597 2 ай бұрын

@@alburaq3290 That a 36 year old Novak was dominating Sinner and Alcaraz who are 14 yrs and 16 yrs younger till last year must be the most embarassing stats because this has never happened in tennis history 😭😭😭 And to even beat this version of injured Novak who plays Tennis part time, Sinner needs high quantum of D0p1ng. LoL 🤣🤣

@myViews_VanKA 2 ай бұрын

If Novak stays healthy and keeps playing, he may get a chance to win a slam or two again. It all depends on the health of alcaraz, meddy and sinner. If sinner gets a 1 yr ban, alcaraz can be unpredictable. Novak still got a shot at 25

@profan10 2 ай бұрын

Novak got his ultimate dream of winning gold at Olympics and already feels accomplished. Currently, he is just doing it for the love of the sport, that's all.

@YukkiKaho 2 ай бұрын

It's pretty obvious in the match that Novak wasn't as fast as he used to be. I mean, of course he was getting slower every year, but this year there's an obvious decline. I was watching his practice against Alcaraz in last year's ATP Final, he foot steps seem so light. I don't know if it's the age getting to him or it's because of that knee surgery. I hope it's the latter.

@RafCole 2 ай бұрын

Feels similar like Federer at that age. He would also focus on the highest events and was able to win GS at that age in 2017 / 2018. On the other hand, there's no turning back the clock. The older he gets, the younger the opponents become. Sinnner/Alcaraz have shown the consistency this year, but what new young talent will rise up next year? If the knee holds on, he's got 2-3 good years left in him. After that, who knows... physically maybe but what about mentally. Maybe his motivations will lie elsewhere...

@michael8597 2 ай бұрын

Novak's biggest problem is completing Tennis which no other player in tennis history has ever managed to achieve. He simply lacks motivation, never say die mindset and has lost that unique indefatigable warrior quality.

@soheiladam7510 2 ай бұрын

he didn't complete Tennis though.

@michael8597 2 ай бұрын

@@soheiladam7510 Who told you so ?? He has won all the big titles which no one ever did. LoL 😂😂

@soheiladam7510 2 ай бұрын

@@michael8597 apparently you don't watch Tennis.

@michael8597 2 ай бұрын

@@soheiladam7510 What you mean by that ?? U1D1OT. Dont make insinuating statements 😭😭😭😭 Care to substantiate them.

@michael8597 2 ай бұрын

@@soheiladam7510 One liners. You can't go beyond that. LoL 😂😂

@c.c.blackwell9986 2 ай бұрын

John always has praise for Novak but he always feels the need to qualify or condition it first. LoL.

@jollymolly2521 2 ай бұрын

Wertheim's take is so contradictory compared to how journalists acted with Roger over the years. From the time Roger turned 29 they started asking when he was going to retire. He got injured - they told him to hang it up. Yet with Novak, "Oh, this is normal as you age..." I still remember the time Novak's father bitched about Roger still playing at 30 and said he should retire and let other guys, ie, Novak, have the spotlight and that Novak would never still be playing at 30. Yet here Novak is at 37 not going quietly into the good night. It's also funny to hear Wertheim talk about how gracious Novak is in defeat...and yet his peers have never voted to give him the Edberg Sportsmanship Award. It's easy to be "gracious" at 37 knowing your best years are behind you. Surely Andy is sitting there listening to this crap and remembering how ungracious Novak was IN VICTORY after their US Open match. This revisionist history painting Novak as the most gracious loser ever is pretty darned lame.

@howtowithd6717 2 ай бұрын

I can't say about Roger and his aging but Novak is the most gracious in lose. He does not grimace, or make any face when he stands with the loser trophy. The comparison with Andy Roddick is idotic. Andy ridiculed Novak before their match in US Open and Novak just took the revenge.

@yanair2091 2 ай бұрын

Novak was gracious in defeat from the get go, not at 37. He also had a talk with Andy Roddick after that match and they had good relationship since. Nothing Roddick says here is "revisionist history".

@jollymolly2521 2 ай бұрын

@@howtowithd6717 Andy didn't "ridicule" Novak before their match. He made a joke. The fact that Novak then got all up in his feels is pretty darned ironic since Novak spent that entire tournament doing impressions of the other players - which ticked off some of those players he "ridiculed." And yes, Novak has been gracious in defeat, but he's also broken rackets and had matches forfeited for his behavior WHILE he was losing the matches. See: 2020 US Open when he accidentally hit the lineswoman when he got mad and wacked a ball. He then didn't have the decency to do the press conference and left the tournament virtually through the back door. Meanwhile he issues a statement saying he apologized to the lineswoman. How "gracious" was that behavior while losing? Don't get me wrong - I actually mostly like Novak, but he can be and has been a butthead for a very long time and Wertheim's revisionist history of that is nonsense.

@jollymolly2521 2 ай бұрын

@@yanair2091 Can you read for comprehension? I said Wertheim, not Roddick. I didn't say the two of them hadn't peaced it out - just that Andy knows firsthand how ungracious Novak could be in victory - let alone defeat.

@funkallero33 2 ай бұрын

Kids at every age miss their dads. Not onlz at specific ages.

@iZealot 2 ай бұрын

Always credit to the other guy? Did we already forget "non era giusto?"

@craigtimmons6907 2 ай бұрын

1:45 - underrated trait

@DouglasMcCulley 2 ай бұрын

if he is penalized- do they take his titles away?

@margaritamuller2497 2 ай бұрын

They Say no

@paolomagni 2 ай бұрын

No, and there is a simple reason for that. WADA does not argue with ITIA final conclusions that there was no doping whatsoever (= JS did not enhanced his performances), WADA believes JS should have been even more accurate in controlling what his team was doing then he did and so want him to be punished more then he has been already (points and money prize of Indian Wells), because they want to pinpoint that the player must take full responsibility of everything (!) done by his/her staff. = JS should have asked more then once (he did it) about that injury and how it was cured or possibly personally check in his staff belonging and luggage...

@soheiladam7510 2 ай бұрын

if he was a player from the global south they would've done just that and more. I bet they're gonna give him a slap on the wrist and move on. I bet most of them if not all do doping one way or another.

@matmax6834 2 ай бұрын

Poco probabile, la WADA non mette in dubbio la mancanza di doping, mette in dubbio la responsabilità di Sinner nei confronti del massaggiatore. Nel suo ricorso, se non sbaglio, ha chiesto una sospensione successiva alla sentenza, ma il TAS potrebbe anche decidere diversamente.

@marissssss11111 2 ай бұрын

@@soheiladam7510 "if...."