Sir Jacob Rees Mogg highlights the ways in which Labour is more & more like the Tory party 5/6

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2 ай бұрын

Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg speaks in proposition of the motion that This House Does Not Know What Labour Stands For.
The Right Honourable Sir Jacob is the Conservative MP for North East Somerset. Rees-Mogg returned to the backbenches following Rishi Sunak's appointment as leader of the Conservatives (& therefore as Prime Minister) in 2022 having served in Cabinet under the leadership of Boris Johnson & Liz Truss.
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@Nordahl_Grieg 2 ай бұрын

He's correct in pointing out the Labour stands for nothing.

@alistairwinder5769 2 ай бұрын

The fact that are prime ministers come from the Oxford union and Eton is a sad thing. We need expertise not just the people who have been prepped for power as if it is their birthright.

@blobfordeath2250 Ай бұрын

They are the most prestigious education institutions in the country though... Where can you go to get better expertise?

@reprep4821 Ай бұрын

I would prefer to have a prime minister who was intelligent enough to be accepted into the best universities in the world, rather than a prime minister who couldn't even obtain any GCSEs. However, in a way, your comment does make sense. Nowadays, there are too many career politicians who enter parliament immediately after graduating. Politics should not be treated merely as a career path; instead, it should be pursued by individuals with real-life experiences who believe they can make a positive impact on public life.

@user-et2ii1il3y Ай бұрын

@@reprep4821But then you get senile politicians who have one and only one view of the world

@TheWarforged 24 күн бұрын

@@blobfordeath2250 "who are and have been resting on their laurels for the past hundred years" There fixed that for you, "prestige" is meaningless if all you do is churn out woke idiots and entitled and rich foreigners who then proceed to lecture the working class of the UK on how racist, sexist, blah blah blah they are whilst scoffing champagne and downing caviar.

@josephconnolly3597 2 ай бұрын

lad sitting behind him has to be stoned, no ones ever found mogg that funny

@dbleaker 2 ай бұрын

was thinking the exact same thing

@fynloquayle3742 Ай бұрын

I'll join.

@JohnAlexanderBlog 2 ай бұрын

This is such a good speech. So many are so blinded by Tory hate to see it.

@michaelbailey8729 2 ай бұрын

and many are so blinded by partisan loyalty they cant see they're being played. Uniparty are all talk with no intention of ever giving the people what they want. How many governments will you all need to serve under before the penny drops.

@user-hu1yi8ox9z 2 ай бұрын

It's a good speech, but from a man who agrees with terrible polices. Telling women what they should do with their bodies, even if they have been raped.

@Scotmend 2 ай бұрын

No, It isn't a great speech, It's a decent one. Please let me be clear, the conservatives have produced some truly unbelievable and engaging public speakers throughout the years (Micheal Heseltine springs to mind), but this man is simply not among them, an average orator at best. His speeches regularly meander about and only have the narrowest pretense of witt and craft behind them, he reminds me of a tourist shirt you would see in London with a picture of the late queen plastered on the front, totally bereft of any real British culture and British sentiment, a walking stereotype, a sophist. The simple fact is this, this man inherited wealth and calls it skill and hard work, many before him have been in this position but they had a sense of A) their privilege and B) the fact that they are our elected representatives. I don't hate the rich, and I also don't hate the conservatives but they ARE a stale party out of ideas and more crucially, actively ignoring what the nation needs on a broader level. They do this for the sake of their statistically narrow loyal registered members. If you think I am being partisan look at the record on rail links between Manchester and London, a successive whirlwind of Conservative prime ministers have, in the last five years, all gone back on vital infrastructure plans, with Sunak perhaps being the worst offender, undoing Truss's consent for the plans to go ahead, only to give his signature to later back the issue! There is simply no sense of a steady hand with the conservatives at present. What the UK needs is seriousness as well as electoral reform and in the more immediate short term, another government so the Tories can sit on the opposition benches and actually learn from their mistakes (which is frankly inevitable after so long in power) there were many good and respectable conservatives who quite during the Brexit chaos years who sadly have been replaced with populist, lazy tabloid level bullshit artists. To be fair and return to your point, which is a good one! We must not engage in partisan hatred and we have to be able to give our opponents their dues and respect where earned, Margaret Thatcher strikes me as a strong example of what I mean. She was the right person for the job concerning the defense of The Falkland Islands, her opposition at the time would have likely not had such a strong response which would have weakened Britain's position on the world stage. Healing this wonderful country starts with the admission that there will always be a need for compromise.

@user-hu1yi8ox9z 2 ай бұрын

@Scotmend To long mate.

@fynloquayle3742 Ай бұрын

It's pure waffle mate, he spent about 10 words on the question about truth and then went back on about 'u-turn starmer' as if that's the biggest political issue facing britons. Absolute crooked hypocrite.

@johnsinger1887 2 ай бұрын

Most people know it, Keir Starmer stands for nothing.

@andrewlim9345 2 ай бұрын

At least Jeremy Corbyn stood for something. Keir Starmer seems to be "catch all the centre."

@terrydaly1748 Ай бұрын

Rees-Mogg has long been the best Parliamentary speaker and the best Oxford Union speaker. When the Tories get voted out at the end of this year, he will also be the new Leader of the Tory party. As such he will destroy Starmer and Labour every week at PMQ's as mercilessly as he destroyed them in this debate. Human performance, individual as well as collective, matters. Rees-Mogg is a top performer and Starmer isn't - which means that the Tories will be back in power in 2029 under Rees-Mogg and Labour will be the party looking for a new Leader. For those hoping that Rees-Mogg will lose his seat in North East Somerset in the general election, dream on. That's a fantasy. He will win North East Somerset comfortably. That's the reality.

@davidmills4306 Ай бұрын

I hope you are right, but struggle to see it atm

@splendidsword1926 Ай бұрын

I don't know about you, but my priority when choosing a leader isn't to do with their speaking ability, it's to do with their actions. Also, there's precious little chance of Rees-Mogg ever ascending to leader - he's a bit of a laughing stock within his own party (outside the ERM, ofc)

@williamj8349 2 ай бұрын

What a complete joke he is.

@user-kk1on6pi2m 2 ай бұрын

Mogg will be able to do many more Oxford Union debates once he loses his seat at the General Election very shortly. The audience will be Mogg fatigued within a very short time.

@minui8758 2 ай бұрын

It’s absolutely mad to think of rural Somerset not being blue (I actually had to google the polls to believe you). They’ve so screwed themselves if even the NFU set are turning their backs

@robertpotier8202 2 ай бұрын

In democracy, except may be in times of great crisis, you need to compromise. It is one of the big difference with dictatorship.

@farahabdulahi474 Ай бұрын

Thing is, Labor has a freebie this election and can be as ambitious as they want. They have scrapped popular policies for no discernible reason. And I would argue that the UK is most definitely in a time of great crisis, the future looks bleak in many ways

@blessedpeas Ай бұрын

Pointing out 26 policy U-turns is fair, and I agree that Labour need to be careful not to sacrifice their principles for the sake of winning at all costs, if the risk is that they actually lose again because voters have nothing to vote for (even if they do want to vote against the Conservatives, there are alternatives in the ascendancy which will split the anti-Tory vote). You can vote against the incumbent party once to get them out. But you need to know what the incoming party stands for if they want the public to keep them in office. JRM might not be someone I agree with on anything, but his reasoning on the importance of ideology is sound. He should know, because his father William co-authored 'The Soveriegn Individual', which explains a lot of Jacob's world view, and suggests the general public should be more concerned about the ideologies of our democratically elected representatives. However, while the Oxford Union might set an 'exam question' which facilitates a fairly one dimensional argument interested only in Labour's failings, the same criticisms can all be levelled at the Conservatives. They can only dream of just 26 U-turns...

@lukekrawiec3522 2 ай бұрын

he's not wrong, thats why we vote green :)

@BestInTheWest-in1xx 2 ай бұрын

Who is we? Green are running off of foreign policy, they dont care for the localised conditions.

@appleroad112 2 ай бұрын

No party is foolproof, remember when libdems were voted in favour over conservatives and how that fucked over millennials and students.

@appleroad112 2 ай бұрын

How would you think green party would deal in war scenarios, terrorism, putin, homelessness, county lines, economic crisis... I bet they would be utterly spineless and useless just as much as other parties if not more.

@lukekrawiec3522 2 ай бұрын

@@appleroad112 How do you think right-wing parties would deal with the economy, homelessness, education, healthcare, xenophobia, the housing market not to mention extortionate train fares and the automobile epidemic, etc etc etc. That's right they don't. Green isn't the best, but it is the best we've got. we arent being invaded by Putin, nor will we be (nuclear power, backed by nato), nor will we realistically be involved in any defensive wars, and I'm of the humble opinion that we should stay the fuck out of other countries instead of invading them for oil..... again county lines and terrorism are hardly problems compared to everything else I've mentioned. oh, and green are the only party against genocide XD, how could I forget?

@rw9854 Ай бұрын

People don’t like him because he’s well spoken and talks like so many Englishmen used to. But objectively speaking, he may be the most intelligent, family orientated and patriotic person in England/Britain. He should be prime minister. He’s the most equipped for the job.

@nioengland 2 ай бұрын

The genuine personality.. able to transcend boundaries and unify the masses

@michaelbailey8729 2 ай бұрын

God help us.

@fynloquayle3742 Ай бұрын

😐😐😐🙄

@christianliechtenstein4879 2 ай бұрын

THIS OXFORD UNION ´DEBATES´ ARE MORE ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT THAN A SERIOUS DISCUSION ABOUT SUBJECTS !

@icantfindausernamehe 2 ай бұрын

And they keep the plebs and mock them in the top rows. - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYjRfpqDert0eK8

@TheSurrealWolf 2 ай бұрын

The Tory's relationship with the truth was a blinder

@oaktree1628 Ай бұрын

10:52 "...Labour is sacrificing the desire for office for its principles..." ? I think he meant the opposite

@Ali-bz9dt Ай бұрын

It is interesting that someone actually listened

@powell656 2 ай бұрын

Dame Hilda Bracket really was on form!

@PK-yf3hd 2 ай бұрын

But how can truth be championed by one who implicitly disowns and disavows it on behalf of his party ,as comment from the floor attests 😊

@StratsRUs 2 ай бұрын

Odious

@shivanigovindia5765 2 ай бұрын

he has a point here 🙈

@primordialpouch565 2 ай бұрын

well to most people, both parties are the same and both are equally awful & therein lies the problem, we see that both puppets are held up by the same hands, hands that just hate BRitish people and nations in general

@michaelbailey8729 2 ай бұрын

The circus is over Jacob. You and labour throwing each other enough of a lifeline to ensure your two party system survives. Reform are here and they are not going away. Hopefully you end up with no more than 60 seats this time and they can tackle labour next time if we've a country left. And if he havent hey ho, I hope you and your mates are pleased with yourselves.

@minui8758 2 ай бұрын

Is he wearing spats?! Jesus Christ 🙄

@aaronaustin225 5 күн бұрын

Your socioeconomic status is showing. Go be jealous elsewhere

@maxmowbray7658 2 ай бұрын

Serious questions about why he’s being given a platform like the Oxford union?

@richardmccallum8597 2 ай бұрын

Utterly unbearable

@Bazingawow 2 ай бұрын

Mogg's impression of himself is detatched from the reality of results

@raypurchase1239 26 күн бұрын

This man is an absolute joke.

@Hindhead 2 ай бұрын

Apologies Jacob; it’s Reform Party for me.

@JohnAlexanderBlog 2 ай бұрын

In what way are they any better?

@thestonedabbot9551 2 ай бұрын

@@JohnAlexanderBlog Tories arent racist enough

@luxid413 Ай бұрын

@@thestonedabbot9551Get a grip

@ClannCholmain 2 ай бұрын

😂 Mogg, 14 years of failure, by every single metric.

@michaelmccomb2594 2 ай бұрын

Not a fan, but he’s only served in govt for 3 of the 14 years

@ClannCholmain 2 ай бұрын

@@michaelmccomb2594 it’s the same narrative he uses, this is his party, he voted for and still supports austerity, which has estimated to have cost 400,000 lives. He doesn’t want to take responsibility for anything, but he is responsible. His voting record shows that. Brexit being probably the worst thing he has promoted.

@dddboom 2 ай бұрын

@@ClannCholmainKey word "estimated" eg. Made up / guess

@ClannCholmain 2 ай бұрын

@@dddboom yes, it could be more or it could be less. It’s way too many. Food banks, homelessness, destitution, hygiene poverty, childhood malnutrition, all becoming the norm.

@michaelmccomb2594 2 ай бұрын

@@ClannCholmainyes he will defend them because he’s a lifelong Tory and like every Tory they have their idealised version of the party that they believe will change the country for the better. He has his version, Rory Stewart has his and Michael Gove has his. But he’s not exactly been a powerful figure within this conservative government, nor has the party been much aligned with his vision of Conservativism.