Siskel & Ebert - Affliction (1997)

[@OrionCorsari]

This was as dark and depressing a movie as I ever want to see. Absolutely brilliant.

[@OuterGalaxyLounge]

This was one of the best movies of the decade, so, of course, nobody saw it.

[@uppercutgrandma4425]

kevin r. Lolols, yup

[@plasticweapon]

yeah, it wasn't that good. it was oscar bait, and james coburn won a not very well deserved oscar for it. the 90's turned oscar bait into the norm.

[@MillerGenuineDraft1980]

That’s not exactly true! I saw it in the summer of 1999. I loved it but yeah nobody else saw it 😆

[@ricardocantoral7672]

​@@plasticweapon Oscar Bait is shallow, conventional, and chasing prestige. There's no indication that Affliction has any of the affirmetioned.

[@dagnabbit6187]

@@MillerGenuineDraft1980I saw it and this movie was a pretentious piece of s**t !

[@moonweenight3903]

My bud and I could have listened to these two talk about this flick for 20 minutes. Siskel & Ebert are just like us in every way. We also loved the movie. 2 thumbs WAY up!

[@tjs597]

RIP Siskel & Ebert..... i miss you guys.

[@uppercutgrandma4425]

tim schofield sames

[@oyun]

great movie. coburn and nolte were incredible... I miss movies like this.

[@marklevy2092]

one of the best movies ever made

[@9114SouthCentralAv]

Coburn was downright scary in this, a somber, chilling drama.

[@MoosieBerry]

James Coburn was amazing in this

[@kevincampbell5785]

He embodied a monster perfectly, very deserving of the supporting Oscar. Nolte was incredible.

[@waynechapman9499]

Great acting

[@CatnessStrange]

Incredible performance by James Coburn. "You no good pup!"

[@RegastaraKim]

What a stacked cast

[@danwilson7636]

One of my favorite movies for sure. The soundtrack seems to fit perfectly in my opinion

[@henn863]

All time great film

[@fido9745]

This messages from this film resonate and haunt me after seeing it.

[@jefferysmom696]

*JAMES COBURN won the oscar btw*

[@TheLiveMusicGroup]

brilliant film!

[@4_vaccuum_salesman_of_marr944]

Basically my childhood.

[@lynx002ca]

Siskel was struggling here, RIP

[@daviddufresne343]

Is it really alcoholism? There's a quote at the end about violence being passed down from father to son. We don't know what Coburn's father was like, but I'm guessing the Coburn character took his share of abuse, maybe worse, and thought this was the way to raise tough sons- after all didn't he turn out to be a real man? I'm not sure that's what the screenwriter was trying to convey, but I think that's the message intentional or not. The daughter sees Nick Nolte's character as a pretty evil dad, absent, capable of violence. Nolte's character sees himself as a nice guy, he mostly restrains his violent impulses and blames his father for what does escape. But the father didn't form out of a vaccuum. It's possible a little mental illness and alcoholism started the pattern with him, but that's very unlikely.

[@empfrench]

Yes I think You are right. There is a scene with the Coburn character in which he talks about his father dominating his mother, about a time when men were 'real men' and women knew their place. It's clear from that I think that the shadow of violent masculinity and brutality within the family still hangs over him too. Alcohol and drugs are merely by-products of that seemingly eternal dynamic.

[@ImpulseGenerator]

Yeah, I'd say the alcoholism is closer to a symptom than the disease itself. But it's definitely gravely exacerbating.

[@dust2891]

Typical of film critics to miss the point of a movie. There is literally a whole monologue narrated at the end that explains what the movie was about.

[@AlexBen-v7y]

​@@dust2891 Stop whining.

[@AlexBen-v7y]

​@@dust2891 These are two of the greatest film critics of all time. They already acknowledged the "violence passing down" earlier on. You are NOT smarter than them.

[@freddyvideo6779]

The subplot was meant to be meaningless.

[@ricardocantoral7672]

I agree but it was a bit of a distraction. I wouldn't get rid of it if I wrote the script but I probably would have diminished it a little.

[@koira1]

​@@ricardocantoral7672Its kind of a red herring

[@ricardocantoral7672]

​@@koira1 I understand it's purpose but like I said, I probably would have shaved a little off from it.

[@mauriceortiz8817]

I miss these critics

[@ricardocantoral7672]

I rewatched the film recently and damn, was it powerful. Nick Nolte gave the performance of his career in that film and James Coburn was ugly beyond belief.

[@richardalvarado-ik9br]

Movies about ugly abusive fathers always get to me.

[@uppercutgrandma4425]

richard alvarado fathers are the union thugs of abuse, and mothers are the dictatorship of it.

[@jeffreyrichardson]

Verner and Catherine Richardson loved to watch movies with me. We would have a nice supper, beforehand...

[@jacksmith5973]

1998 ,there's been a mistake in the year it came out !!

[@5eurocups2005]

It was produced that year and was first released at the Venice International Film Festival on August 28, 1997. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affliction_(1997_film)

[@DiabloSandwich59]

"...in what I assume is a realistic portrait of family violence". Not to speak ill of the dead but factoring in the way he both did his job and treated Roger, I'd say Gene knows exactly what an abusive existence looks like, be it on the giving or receiving end or both. Also I'm very glad Roger point blank asked Gene if he liked the film bc God knows Gene didn't make it easy to glean his opinion from that harangue.

[@dagnabbit6187]

Interesting . There was sometimes tension on that show. Ebert getting irritated with Siskel’s takedown of a Peter Fonda vehicle similar to Who’s Afraid of Virginia Wolf . Never saw the film ,don’t recall the name but Siskel could have been right. Another time there was a film Roger Ebert thumbs downed and in recap Siskel urged Ebert to reconsider and thought he didn’t get it . Ebert burst out “ Am I not supposed to have any opinions on this show ? . “ Ebert made a valid point .

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