Eloise Bridgerton is NOT a feminist Icon - She's One of the Boys! [CC]

[@ineedmoresleep3728]

Eloise doesn’t advocate for women’s rights, she doesn’t use her own rather powerful position as a bridgerton to better the lives of other women, she just judges them for not making the same decisions as her. Especially in the case is Penelope, she doesn’t even notice that her own wealth makes spinsterhood comfortable but Penelope has no such wealth.

[@thestitchwithsami]

It was hard with her and Pen's conflict, because I could see both sides (and both sides were making pretty big mistakes). Her friendship this season with Cressida really brought into sharp relief how shit she was. I do kinda blame her for how much that spiraled out. Like, Cressida definitely sucks and made so many mistakes, but Eloise never listened to her, never helped her brainstorm her way out of her shit situation, never supported her. She was only friends with her as an accessory to stick it to Penelope.

[@Denananana]

"Because she doesnt care about what other women can or cannot do, her focus is on HERSELF." "She cannot understand other womens different opinions because their interests are LESSER" Nail, meet hammer. Im concerned about how the story continues because.. time is not proving to be kind. (ahahaha.. yeah totally just wanted to shake Anthony, hah, absolutely wasnt planning to have him dig his own grave and then boot him in to it ahahaha)

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Omg!!! I was also planning on ways to have him disappear or something 🤣🤣🤣

[@charity9660]

Dang Anthony was my favorite

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

@@charity9660 oh he’s my favourite now. But in season 1??? I wanted to throttle him 🤣🤣

[@LovelyLies16]

To a degree, I understand the writers needing to drag out Eloise's weak points because when it's time for her season (which I hear is S5), they're going to need something to actively work on for her to grow as the season's female lead. But, yeah, I wish they would at least make it a LITTLE easier to root for her because I'm so done with her at this point. 😑

[@Denananana]

@@LovelyLies16 maybe Im overly skeptical but.. I feel like for each season we've got.. there are more and more "character assassinations" that they then just slap a bandaid on in the last, or next to last episode and then everything is sunshine and roses with those chars next time around because they are no longer "important".

[@liliebilie]

Eloise proved that she is NOT a girl’s girl this season. Multiple times she basically told Penelope she was unlovable. She didn’t give a crap about Cressida being married off to someone’s grandfather 😫

[@muskaan3711]

Ikr I hated how she belittles Pen with it's just gossip, and it's Madame Delacroix who motivates Pen. And how Eloise did not even try to help Cressida with the forced marriage.

[@Nikki-lh1tu]

Not the grandfather 😫

[@moritzmartini4132]

Like her feminist views are actually radical AND important for that time, but then she turns around belittles basically every other woman. I get her frustration bc yes women like Daphne (and many others) might ACTUALLY enjoy embroidery or playing the piano or harp and they ACTUALLY might want children and a loving husband, but it´s also true that there´s more to a woman than that and that they basically feed into the patriarchy. But at the same time Eloise has to learn that yes these things might be enjoying for some women. Both things can be true at the same time. Also btw in season 2 when Anthony was still engaged to Edwina, Hyacinth asked if Kate would then also move in with them. What does Eloise say? "Oh finally another intelligent woman in this house" IN FRONT OF HER FEMALE FAMILY MEMBERS

[@satanspizza-dq6xf]

I think she said that piece about Kate being another intelligent woman in this house as more of a compliment towards Kate than a rude thing to say about her female family members, but she still could've complimented Kate without being so rude about her female family members, so yeah, I agree.

[@sunnflare]

That scene with Kate always irritated me because she COULD HAVE said something like “finally, a woman I can discuss ideals with” but she CHOSE to BELITTLE AND INSULT her female family members by directly (not indirectly) telling them that they lack intelligence and that she is above them because of how differently she thinks. Props to whichever brother put her down for it 👏

[@stripedpolkadots8692]

Exactly

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Yup! Two things can be true! Women are multifaceted people and I really do hope Eloise learns that in the course of the show and hopefully her season. Her words to Kate had me gaping. But to be fair, in her defence I do wonder if she didn’t do that thing when she just said the first thing that popped into her head without her mind filtering things out. I’ve done something similar and yeah. I winced at that scene but more because I have been Eloise in that situation on occasion 😭😭

[@mayalevine2898]

In FRONT OF HER DAMN MOTHER. in front of her MOTHER. she called her MOTHER unintelligent. i have my issues with violet by how DARE YOU call your OWN DAMN MOTHER unintelligent

[@dylanwickersham5610]

You're right, and you should say it

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Thanks Dylan 🙂‍↔️🙂‍↔️🙂‍↔️🙂‍↔️

[@J_Isak]

I agree

[@jfcfanfic]

That she wasn't a Feminist I already knew...that she was one of the boys... that's definitely interesting to listen to.

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Glad it caught your interest ☺️☺️

[@MariaRevArt]

Same.

[@gracehaven5459]

When Cressida was confiding in Eloise about her fears of being married to that horrid old man I felt for her, she was heavily implied at being at risk of being maritally SAed! and I was enraged on how dismissive Eloise was with her fears and attempts to devise a plan with her. If their situations had been reversed, Eloise would be frantic for Cressida and others to help her eacape her fate, and yet, when it is someone else, she is not only passive she doesn’t present as being concerned at all! I still like her character and am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt due to her age and immaturity.... but I still have concerns and hope the writers give her a chance to grow and mature in later seasons for the better.

[@muskaan3711]

IKR I hated her sm in that moment. Eloise is so oblivious to her privilege, she does not realise that she has the luxury of not being forced to marry.

[@gracehaven5459]

@@muskaan3711 exactly 💯

[@MariaRevArt]

Your comment on the art of embroidery as an art is so true and it's quite interesting considering how she talks about Benedicts freedom to pursue "art" as opposed to her pursuing her own interest. As you also mentioned, Francesca also pursues the art of the Pianoforte. It is Eloise who looks down on certain art forms because they are seen as feminine art forms. She indeed wants to be one of the boys, other women be damned. This is what pissed me off the most at her treatment of Pen once she finds out the secret. She was jealous that Pen had the courage to do all she claims she wants to do. She was infuriated that Pen found power within the restrictions of being a noble woman while all she did was talk about things.

[@Jomama-man]

Fr. It’s really harsh to think about how much she admires lady whistle down when she didn’t know who she was or when she was writing about the featheringtons. She was okay as long as she left unscathed.

[@MariaRevArt]

@@Jomama-man Yep. And what really bothered me is that Pen repeatedly warned her to stop doing what she was doing because people could talk. Eloise put herself in a position to be gossiped about, then got mad when Pen wrote about her in an effort to protect her from the queen. I mean, was Pen completely in the right with writing about El, no, but Eloise's reaction was extreme.

[@LovelyLies16]

Yes! I remember my mom trying to get me into knitting, crocheting, and embroidery as a kid. (She wasn't forcing me because we were just trying to find a mom/daughter bonding hobby.) I did NOT have the skill or patience for it and was just confused about how to do what. 😂 I respect the women who can MAKE something from it!

[@LovelyLies16]

@@MariaRevArt Agree! Eloise admired LW as a badass woman leaving her mark in an otherwise male-dominated world. But when it was HER name being written about, she was furious. And was Pen 100% right in her choice? No. But did Eloise's reckless choice to keep doing what she was warned NOT to do drive her to do it? Also yes. I hate how Pen is made out to be entirely in the wrong when Eloise played her role too.

[@MariaRevArt]

@@LovelyLies16 This is exactly how I feel. Thank you for the discussion. It was refreshing to have.

[@aliiciia555]

Her feminism is what I call Media Feminism. This is how it often portrayed by tv shows and movies, that there is only one way how to be a good woman, traditional feminine interest and desires are simply lesser, and the "feminist icon" is above these type of women and intereset, she is better than that, and she belittles other women who are not agreeing with her point of view. I always hated this when I was younger, I loved the "old feminism". Fighting for women's rights and the ability to have a choice, and any of those options are good. Than I grow older a bit and realised I didn't know anything about nowadays feminism just how the Media portrays it, it was quite shocking to realise that what I called old feminism is still true, and the more negative side is being shown only by the media, which is what Eloise represents.

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Oooooh. Media Feminism makes SO MUCH SENSE!!! And now you’ve unlocked something for me! Thank you!!!

[@aliiciia555]

@@ChroniclesofNoria Welcome, I hope it helps :)

[@moustik31]

I just watched a retrospective on the movie House Bunny and you are so right, we were drowning with media, that associated feminism with "undesirability", internalised sexism and snobbishness. It's the same with "Liberal/Leftist activists", they are always made a mockery of and never portrayed accurately.

[@aliiciia555]

@@moustik31 I think that is also the reason behind those Instagram posts: I am not a feminist I can cook etc... These women saw those so called "feminist characters" on TV, or read about them and they thought: oh, this feminism? I don't like to be belittled by other women, just because I am more traditional, or care about my skin, motherhood etc... This portrayal has such negative effects on young girls, and pits women against each other.

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

@aliiciia555 omg!!! It’s why I keep pointing out that people should read theoretical feminism books cuz feminism seems to be lost on a lot of people these days, and it makes NO sense!!! But now that you’ve mentioned it, it totally tracks that they are still being influenced by the feminist characters we saw on TV that was just TV doing that thing where they bought into stereotypes and tried to pigeon hole a wide swath of people into these boxes like some sort of listicle of “here are 5 ways to tell you’re a feminist”. You like jeans and not skirts, etc. I understand not knowing better when we were 14 and buying into the bullshit but we’re adults now! People should study and learn and actually understand the principles. And don’t get me started on how intersectionality keeps going over their heads! ^sigh^

[@osimiri7111]

I am not at all confused, and completely agree. I’ve been saying this for a while, and I’m glad that more people are noticing it! Honestly she’s a hate letter against actual feminists. She is like all of the negative stereotypes about actual feminist concentrated into a single character. Whatever truths may be to this caricature of feminism, actual feminism is about choice and empathy. Eloise Bridgerton is incapable of being a feminist, because she completely and utterly lacks empathy for other women. Hell, she even says this explicitly in season, three, when Cressida asks her how she is capable of defying the expectations of society so easily. She literally states that it’s not bravery, but solely because she cannot understand (i.e empathise) with other women, therefore she is able to defy the societal expectations placed upon her. Glad that you’re spending more time unpacking the deep-seated flaws in her character, because truly I’ve loathed her since the beginning

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Yes. She unfortunately does lack empathy. I’m hoping that’s something the writers would have her character work through because although I didn’t loathe Eloise from the start, I did expect a bit more from her character and it’s been very frustrating to see the writers not really explore the possibilities that she contains 😪

[@osimiri7111]

@@ChroniclesofNoria Ooh thanks for the reply! I think her character X me so deeply, because she is very innocuous with a lot of young, white girl, “feminists” in present times. Who I maintain are probably much of her Fanbase that watch the show actually. There was a season where we would expect her to maybe grow out of this, I agree it would be this one? And that just didn’t happen. Maybe next year?

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Of course. Your comment was amazing and spot on in a lot of my frustrations. I also thought with the way they were handling her relationship with Cressida this season we were going to get to that point. But then we didn’t and now I’m back to hoping next season is when we get that. But considering it’s Benedict’s season and she’s all the way in Scotland, I don’t think we would be seeing it 😭😭😭

[@Whoisthatns]

She’s autistic,I think -Socially awkward -Don’t “get” social norms -One friend at a time -Passionate about particular topics/subjects and not willing to talk about things she doesn’t find interesting or sensible I’m sure there’s more signs but what I’m seeing

[@TeaAndCroissants]

I was so excited to see this title! YES! This is exactly what I came to realise. Eloise isn't a feminist for all women, she's just upset that she can't be a boy with their same privileges in society, and is in the business of putting other women and "femininity" in general down in order to feel better about herself and her situation. Can't wait to watch this!!

[@BellesView]

This is so accurate! Eloise wants to be “not like other girls” so bad. She’s more simple than the girls of the ton that are ACTUALLY pursuing what they want (succeeding in the marriage mart to maintain/improve social status and start a family). I saw some people call her a radical thinker which I call bs on. Like Penelope and Cressida said, all Eloise does is talk. The fact she used Francesca’s marriage as a way to leave Mayfair was pathetic. That’s not taking action. That’s hopping on her sister’s bandwagon. Let’s say Theo in season 2 was supposed to be her soulmate. If Eloise’s supportive family vehemently disagreed, she would choose them over Theo. You know who chose love over family, the real radical? Mary Sharma. Eloise doesn’t have the balls to take action. I rewatched Season 1 and gained more respect for Daphne because she used her strengths and status to help Marina and to ensure she advanced her status in society. Eloise takes it for granted. Eloise and Cressida’s “friendship” was always going to be short lived. The definition of misery loves company. Eloise needed a sidekick who will listen to her whine all the time. Cressida was Pen’s temporary stand-in. If she really believed in feminism, she wouldn’t have continued to befriend Cressida after she saw her humiliate Penelope in Season 3 Episode 2. She accused Pen of only befriending her to “trap” Colin. By the season 3 finale, she doesn’t acknowledge her selfishness or jealousy of Pen for ACTUALLY taking action. I’m relieved Season 4 will center Benedict. I give it a 1/5 to revamp her character. She needs to acknowledge her flaws and insecurities before she gets a season. What is her purpose? Why didn’t she start her own publication? Why don’t we see her attend the seminars she talks about? I can’t watch a season centered around such an insufferable character. Her life is boring. Eloise doesn’t really have friends. She goes on walks and sits in the drawing room all the time. She’s not written with the nuance of Anthony or the charm of Benedict. Quite frankly, she’s one-note like Colin. Maybe she’ll have a good side storyline for next season. MAYBE if done right.

[@Jomama-man]

This was a good read

[@jennybien-aime3725]

That’s exactly what I thought when watching season two. When she was criticizing LW for writing only gossip, instead of big feminist ideas. I was thinking. Well, Eloise. How about we get on that desk, pick up a quill and start writing those feminist ideas and then go publish them. Like, she just wants to hop on an already established author’s work and not have to go through the hurdle of finding an audience and getting criticism and push backs for her ideas. Basically all the good stuff without the actual work and sacrifice. I hope the writers acknowledge that this upcoming season

[@BellesView]

@@jennybien-aime3725 Yes! Maybe I’ll respect her if she completes a project.

[@Mellowdiamond_]

​@@jennybien-aime3725 😂😂😂😂

[@darylesese]

3 people so far have called her out (Theo, Pen, and Cressida) but neither of these times seemed to have led to some self reflecting. I wonder what it would take for her to realize that she IS like other girls and she DOES come from a place of privilege!!! Maybe in S4 when she’s away and people treat her differently because they don’t know her family has status???

[@SC-rn4dr]

I used to appreciate her character in S1 and she was also one of my favs but since S2, more of her ‘im not like other girls’ character traits were coming out strong. S3 sadly made me disappointed with her the most. Somehow the writers keep writing her character to be less and less likeable and lowkey problematic. This video is so well done!

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Thank you so much 😭😭. I was worried that my thoughts were jumping all over the place and I had to keep editing to streamline things. Glad you enjoyed the video 🥹

[@kevinsafar]

Let's be honest if Eloise magically had the privilege to go to university, have a career, and be successful, while other women had no rights, she wouldn't have cared about them and only focused strictly on herself.

[@muskaan3711]

My thoughts exactly

[@kin.g-yawna]

I'm at the section where you compare Eloise to her brothers and it made me realise, do we ever know what Eloise's true passions are? She always talks about her lack of education but we never know *what* she'd like to be educated for, right? It could be a really interesting character trait for a person to just want education as a whole, to desire it so bad that they'd study anything, but for a character as stubborn and strong headed as Eloise, I feel like by now she would have had a specific passion chosen along with her passion for further education, so she feels even more shallow to me.

[@mayalevine2898]

I think she literally doesn't have a passion, she just wants to be pressed about not being allowed to pursue whatever she wants. Maybe I'm being overly judgemental of her character but I feel like if she was told "go ahead and go to school" she wouldn't know what to choose, and she would be the kind of person that flip flops between a million subjects hoping for instant expertise and gratification and then drops out when she doesn't find it.

[@xiletelo]

I agree with you. It speaks volumes that the only time she defends other women is when the guy her mum sets her up with insults them. She needs to learn to extend those thoughts beyond her private interactions with men and show up for the women in her life. Cressida needed her! Penelope needed her! But nope, she was to wrapped up in her own mess to care.

[@kloud4099]

There's been so many, many opinions on Eloise and I want to like her character and am still holding out for her season. But I think what's been stopping me is that the show itself feels like they're portraying her flaws as quirks or virtues and I was so disappointed in how her storyline with Cressida ended as it had so much potential. They want her to be a modern feminist icon but don't understand that feminism doesn't mean rejecting and degrading the feminine Even still, I never connected how much her character is similar to the Bridgerton boys' arcs and how even her mentality mimics them. Her privilege and family life have allowed her to become on of the boys in this sense despite the very obvious circumstance difference. Still, I truly hope they have some real plans for her and learn from the audience's reactions to her cause she has so much potential and the actress can make Eloise such a charming character they're wasting her So many of us women have had a "not like other girls" phase (some longer than others) and it's almost like a coming of age for us to realize that we are girls/women and there is no shame in that Your takes are very compelling to listen to and thank you for blessing us with this video

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Oh yes. Claudia would do JUSTICE to Eloise’s character, especially if her arc requires her to see and admit to the privilege that allows her feel like she can stand aside from the rest of the women of the ton. Like you, I too went through my “not like other girls” phase. It really is somewhat of a required experience these days 😂😂. Glad you enjoyed the video and thank you for the comment ❤️❤️

[@foxesofautumn]

I don’t know if it’s a phase with Eloise. She lives in a time and space where acceptable interests and outcomes for women are really narrow. She sees her brothers have freedom and she wants it too. I wish that also translated into push back against those double standards but she’s right to say on her own behalf “This isn’t what I want.”

[@LovelyLies16]

Hopefully that's the intended, long-term goal for Eloise and why it feels they're dragging out her more unlikeable traits. I WANT to like Eloise and Claudia does a fantastic job playing her. But Eloise is so blind to her privilege as a Bridgerton (not able to see why some women HAVE to marry for protection she'll always have or how some women want to marry/have kids--and that's actually okay). Maybe in S5, we'll see her finally snap into reality and become the Eloise we want to love again.

[@kalaelizabeth]

This is all so accurate and season was so frustrating but eloise was really frustrating as a character and I couldn't pin point why and you nailed it!

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Thanks Kala ☺️☺️. It really has been frustrating to see what looks like her character regressing. ^sigh^

[@blueberrybabe4192]

Yes!! The way she couldn’t support Daphne was so frustrating and heart-aching as someone who personally desires to get married and have children one day. 10/10 still finishing my degree as that’s something I want to do + it’s a safety net but primarily I want a family.

[@Teainatophat]

Eloise’s character has always been iffy when it comes to her views with women and women rights. In Season 1 she constantly looks down on Daphne for wanting a husband and a family and acts like she’s simple when Daphne is a smart and funny women, and even looks down on other woman for wanting the same thing. She never does anything to help women around her and just talks about helping them (even Pen calls her out on it during their argument in season 2), when Cressida (never thought I’d like her character but I do now) came to her for help she totally brushes her off and ditches her in her time of need. the only reason she helps Pen in season 3 is because she is now Colin’s wife and her family was being affected. She’s dismissive of other women’s (and other peoples) problems until they affect her or her family members, she even stopped going to the women’s right meetings because her position in high society was threatened. (tho she talks like she hates high society because of the limitations women face in it) I think her season is either going to be really good or really bad, her character flaw is that all she does is talk, in her season she could start taking action to help the women around her and acknowledge her mistakes in the past (aka how quickly she turned her back on Cressida)

[@viktorijasarac1171]

I loved friendship between Cressida and Eloise because i felt like they could grow and change together. I was disappointed with Eloise's and Penelope's friendship but they fall out was on both of them. I was hoping since Cressida doesn't tolerate Eloise's bs that Eloise would change and could be more empathetic to women on situations like Penelope's and Cressidas. I really hate that scene were one lady wanted to talk about needle work and Eloise rudely interacted and changed the subject because she was not interested in that. LIKE WHAT IS WRONG WITH LOVING NEEDLE WORK? Sorry if what i saying wasn't articulated good i have dysgraphia. Thanks for video❤

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Right??? The scene when she confronts Eloise and makes her see that she was the one responsible for the rest of the ton finding out that Pen requested Colin’s help with finding a husband, was such a big one for me and I was hoping that we would see that explored even further with them being honest with each other and encouraging each other to grow and be better people and friends. But alas…. Also YES!!! What is wrong with loving needles???????

[@viktorijasarac1171]

@@ChroniclesofNoria i think that Eloise is dreamer she wants what she don't have and she is idolses freedom and scholarly practice but I don't think she understands the price you have to pay for them and she can't see her privileges. I honestly think if she worked one day like lesser people in their society she would definitely sing a different tun

[@mayalevine2898]

and then the show treated eloise as if she was right for doing it! "oh look at eloise she's so smart for hating embroidery!" no the fuck she's not! that was obnoxious and cruel!

[@slightlysadistic]

Absolutely hit the nail on the head! She's been bothering the hell out of me and while I did get annoyed at how she treats her female friends, I couldn’t put my finger on the core issue. This is it.

[@AidahMuhammad]

I think if Eloise Bridgeton had a deep conversation with Kate she she would become a WHOLE different person. Remember that Kate did not grow up in society. She did the best she could to ensure that her sister had a better life along with her mother after the dad died. The show does not go into details but given the time period I know it would have been rough. Kate knows the other side of society and had the freedom to learn outside of society. I was taken aback when they had a conversation about spinsterhood. Kate needed to tell her what it honestly looks like.

[@pinksuperstar2]

Eloise definitely is the epitome of, "Not like other girls." Mind you in middle school I definitely felt this way because I was way more shy compared to the other girls in my class, has no interest in dating, and had different interests. However over time I realized that all women are different. Come in different experiences, interests, personalities. It doesn't mean one is better than the other. It just means every girl is no exactly as the other I hope that makes sense

[@muskaan3711]

I think many girls have had this phase (me too). But my problem is that the showrunners actually seem to think she's some feminist icon and not a privileged hypocrite. People say Cressida is a mean girl (which she is) but Eloise is no different.

[@pettybee3860]

I can't stand Eloise 💀. I already detest what season 3 has done to the show and I don't think I'll ever watch the show again moving forward, but especially to how they made Eloise WORSE in that season. The way she abandoned Cressida was INSANE

[@BellesView]

The switch-up wasn’t surprising to me. As soon as Eloise saw Cressida taking action to better her situation, she didn’t want Cressida to have the power and influence. And when Cressida told her “All you do is talk,” she became an enemy. Plus I doubt Eloise planned to be friends with Cressida long-term. She was just going through the motions.

[@LovelyLies16]

I wasn't that surprised because to me, it fits with her character. She's shown to be dismissive of Penelope's problems and blind to her family issues. She's also shown to be dismissive of her own family and their feelings plenty of times. Even though her abandoning Cressida was cold, to me, it fits with her character's negative traits of being a bad friend who takes more than she gives.

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

I was just screaming at my TV. Like they could have done better!! It’s like they regressed on her character or something because how does she just constantly choose to be as horrid a friend with every chance she gets???

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

You know what? Yes! I see it! It was definitely a temporary thing for her. It sucks to be someone’s stand-in friend, especially for someone like Cressida who admitted that Eloise is the first friend she’s had as an adult. Poor girl

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

This!!!!

[@gandalf-big-naturals]

i was so caught up in being an eloise hater i didn't realize how interesting she could be if she got a character arc

[@viktorijasarac1171]

❤ , I think Eloise is perfect exampol of ton and they hypocrites. And in Cressida case she showed how when they don't have any use for you they discard you. Or if you lose your current place because of rumours. Eloise was in that situation but she doesn't have empathy for those who are in similar situations and honestly it didn't affect her that much because of her privileged background.

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Yes and yes!!!!!!

[@alexisgarcia1344]

I think it shows how privileged Eloise really is. Unlike other women in Bridgerton, they don't have the flexibility to be "bougie" about their options. The other ladies are acutely aware of their limits, including their marriageable prospects. In the 3rd season, Clarissa and Eloise, becoming friends, gave insight into her behavior. The fact she called Eloise on her loud gossip further proves why many ladies do not like Eloise. Or how the dressmaker reminds Penelope; she has far more power than she realizes. Once Eloise admits to Penelope that she's jealous of her ability to be Lady Whistledown, garner a following, and make money... that says it all. Eloise has had this idea that because she's a woman, she can't do what her brothers can. And to some degree, she can't, but she doesn't understand how her privilege has afforded her so much more than her counterparts. Maybe she finds music dull or needle work boring, but no one in her family called her on her "bougie" attitude. Then again, family has a way of making jabs in the vein of joking and fun. Which makes one wonder, why was she really friends with Penelope? She didn't take her seriously until she found out Penelope always loved Colin. Eloise goes on to try to protect her brother rather than her friend; forcing her Lady Whistledown secret out on her terms rather than Penelope's. Season 3 for Eloise was a reckoning to force her to grow up. And rather stay and attempt to do right by others; she leaves for Scotland.(Which was far more harsh than London at that time) 🤷🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️

[@Slm99]

I have had issues with Eloise since season 1 from the way she talks about her sister's desires to marry and have what her parents had to her wanting children. I understand the trauma that she went through, but she can't understand that Daphne is the oldest so either way she had to marry. We see that Daphne herself is critical of the system way more than Eloise because she lives in it and so do other women and yet they are treated as less for following what has been asked of them, something Eloise doesn't try to understand. This comes to be a bigger issue in the next seasons with Theo, Pen, and Cress people who don't have her privileges and want to change their lives. With Theo we see a radical in the making who she dropped the moment it becomes hard for her because he is not from the ton and is poor, even if she already knew that beforehand. Pen uses her writing to better herself even if she has her issues and Cress who wants to escape a marriage that she doesn't want, Eloise abounded all in their greatest time of need because it treated her reputation. In the end, all she does is talk because there is no action behind the words.

[@princessahni]

I felt this way for so long and felt crazy because I never really saw anyone else say it! She would always belittle or gaslight the other women of the show when they would show excitement at the prospect of finding a love match or enjoying stereotypically feminine hobbies was aggravating. She was incapable of having conversations without redirecting it to herself and treated everyone else’s desires as trivial. I always have a problem with supposed activists who do not have the empathy to understand other’s feelings and struggles. She kind of represents to me a lot of whats wrong with the white feminism in today’s society. Her understanding world issues beginning and ending with the problems of fellow white women, treating white men, or men in general, as these uber-privileged people without a single problem while ignoring benefits they themselves get, shunning fellow white women who don’t agree with their worldviews, and ignoring everyone below them.

[@coffeepie]

I agree that she will 'glow up' eventually. I do like though that she starts out flawed, otherwise, what would be the point in telling her story? Characters who do all the right things and think all the right things are static and uninteresting; they need to go through character development and for that, they need to start somewhere imperfect (unless you're telling a tragedy, of course)

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Oh yes. I am a big fan of characters growing and developing and becoming better versions of themselves. If the writers however don’t give her her glowup, they are definitely catching these hands!! 😑😑

[@muskaan3711]

I agree but I think most people including me think that the showrunners think her little "feminist quirks" are a good thing, and not double standards. Like how she refused to help Cressida. I know she's a bully and horrible for a number of reasons, but no one deserves a forced marriage to a man thrice her age.

[@mayalevine2898]

My concern is that the writers don't actually think that her NLOG traits are something to be overcome. I think her season will be about overcoming her personal fears of marriage and personally reconciling femininity with her brand of feminism, but I think we will never see her regret how she treated other women, especially daphne and somewhat pen, because the showrunners don't think there was a problem with how she treated them.

[@AnimeAngel115]

Been saying this about her for years.

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Right????

[@indigoskies5434]

If Eloise wasn’t played by Claudia Jessie I would despise her

[@muskaan3711]

Same

[@elizabethification771]

YES! Finally people are waking up to Eloise. I've been saying this for years.

[@alyssalewis8421]

When a child experiences trauma, it often gives them a sense of being more mature than others their own age. It's like the trauma is an aging experience. So it wouldn't surprise me if Collin felt more mature for his age after his dad died, and then resented everyone in his family for treating him the same age he actually is. (I, too, am not a psychologist) Loved this video!

[@ShelleyArissa]

I need to be able to like this video a lot more than once 😭 I’m just screaming at the screen “THAT’S WHAT I’VE BEEN SAYING!”😂😂

[@saprose]

She is 1 of 8 kids, of which 4 are girls. They must all be vying for their parents' attention. Sibling rivalry is too real for them underneath their love. A lot of them especially the girls have refined and developed talents, like Daphne and Francesca. Hyacinth too has the smarts. Eloise probably as a kid tried to excel in some accomplishment but failed to do so. She desperately wanted to overlook that perceived 'flaw' in herself. Hence the outward belittling to console herself initially. This soon progressed to defiance when she was forced to learn despite not having a talent for them. She's probably feeling lost and turning to different avenues to broaden her horizon so that she may find what she excels at. Hard work and motivation is what she needs to actually live her 'talk', which we have as yet not seen from her. As to her empathy and humane side, i fear it may develop only after she has worked hard and achieved something for which she's acclaimed by people around her. For, only after her thinking side is used up/ satisfied, is her feeling side ready to be developed. She's not feeling dominant. But once she achieves even a small success and is a little recognised, it'd be a nice change to see her feel humble and think back and apologize to all the people she's hurt on her way there. Also there appears to be a little bit of self loathing in her hatred for/ disparaging of others. Self love will take some hard work, after which only may any other love/ romance enter her life. I feel like I'm writing famfic lol. Gosh, i suddenly felt bridgerton is not all that serious while watching s3, something i haven't felt in previous 2 seasons and spinoff. It's like they have formulated with a couple ball scenes, heartbeat sounda between leads, couple sex scenes, drama solved disney style and voila done!

[@ja_santana]

Honestly? I love to see a female character that isn't interested in being perceived as generous, friendly, and goody goody. Eloise being spoiled, privileged and self centered - while also not being entirely "evil" per se - is somehow refreshing. Of course she is not concerned about the other - most of the ton and the Bridgertons themselves aren't. It's that class lenses that shades everything, and I also don't expect for a romance series to fully develop solidarity beyond some liberal and very individual perspective. There's room for growth, change and also expanding Eloises interests. Maybe the series follows this path, but I find very "obvious" that she is aligned with her brothers than with ladies that maybe appears to "take in" a type of [privileged and dull] womanhood that she finds limitating without considering her role in a big picture.

[@Romy-90]

Oh yes, Eloise is that kind of person who will be your 'friend' as long as she's the one in control, dominating all conversations and pushing her opinions onto you. Basically as long as you are - in her view - 'below' you and she feels superior she will be your 'friend'. But as soon as you yourself develop agency, she will drop you in the blink of an eye. Tbh, while Cressida did a lot out of desperation this season, Eloise had no reason to be as mean as she was apart from being butthurt that people can live fine without her. She was THE mean girl this season. 💀

[@foxesofautumn]

I think you’re right but also I get why Eloise doesn’t see the value in those things and that’s because it’s expected she should. They represent the bars of a cage to her. The problem isn’t people love doing embroidery. The problem is the double standard that only allows that as an artistic outlet. What if that doesn’t appeal to you? What if you want to paint and not stop? What if you want to travel freely? Eloise is selfish but she’s also right to be angry.

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Oh I’m not disputing that she is right to be angry. She should be. Justifiably so. I just think that she could show that anger without putting down the other women who do love embroidery. Just because it’s the only artistic outlet allowed for the women of their age doesn’t make it any less valid art that is demanding and that some of them actually do enjoy. It’s why I applaud Tessa, the woman who models at the Royal academy of the arts by day so she can learn from the teachers and work on her art and her craft. It’s unfair that their school only allows men access and not women, but she found a way to pursue what she wants, and I guess I wish Eloise had done the same or something similar 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@muskaan3711]

Subscribed! I haven't read the books but Eloise always stuck out as odd to me. Eloise thinks she's a feminist but Penelope is actually one. I hate how Eloise didn't even try to help Cressida escape her forced marriage situation. Cressida is not the best person but she deserved better from her "friend". I hope Eloise gets some kind of redemption arc. I hate how she looks down on other girld for being feminine while being completely oblivious to her privilege. I would love to see her as an aroace icon or her ending up with Cressida, I was lowkey shipping them in s3.

[@hobbesandends]

Yes, absolutely! I love particularly how you outlined Eloise's friendship with both Penelope and Cressida. Yes, the only two friends we see her have (outside of her siblings) is with two women, but how she treats those women is so telling. It's particularly evident in how terrible she is to Cressida in season 3, but let's be honest -- her and Penelope are supposedly best friends, but right up until the end of season 2, she had no idea Pen is Whistledown. I personally think this speaks more to Eloise willfully disregarding Pen than it does to Pen's ability to lie, because, let's be honest, Eloise barely listens to Pen anyways. Great video, thanks for sharing!

[@mitziac5300]

Yes! Eloise has feminist leanings, but she won’t make it there until she works through her “not like other girls” phase, and recognizes how extraordinarily privileged she is. At least, as she’s presented on screen; I haven’t read the books.

[@bornarose11]

I know its not the point of the vid but my trans brother started watching Bridgerton with me recently and he seems himself in Eloise a lot, her manerisms, her high anxiety about having to be femenine etc. And i get it i see it too, i know it's not gonna happen in the show (and i know hating feminine things doesn't mean youre trans before anyone comes at me) but i think its lovely the way he views her like that. Maybe Eloise could want to be one of the boys in more than one way

[@MeredithHagan]

Thank you for expressing so beautifully what bothers me about Eloise! Being inherently anti-femininity is NOT feminist. That scene where she is so rude to the girl who genuinely loves embroidery got under my skin (I’m not a fibercraft girly but I am a multicrafter and I’d be so offended if someone said something like that to me).

[@emily-grace6246]

I’d give her a 3.5 l realistically, but of course hoping for a 5! You hit the nail on the head with the issues I have with this character. Eloise definitely has some stroooong internalized misogyny and I believe there’s more than a hint of gender envy in there, too. I doubt she’s gonna end up with a woman from what the show runners have said, but one possible angle I hope for is whoever she ends up with has a deep appreciation for women and women’s work that makes her realize how grossly she’s treated her own sex. I think maybe we got a glimmer of that with the “maybe try not to insult one’s entire sex in the process” line she gave. Maybe a man with more feminine interests or a deep love and appreciation for his and her sisters? Again, I haven’t read the books so I have no idea what’s in store for her. Eloise’ relationship with Kate also may open a doorway to her seeing that masculine traits and feminine traits can have balance in a beautiful, strong woman.

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Yeah. I too was hoping that with Kate becoming the viscountess, who clearly loves feminine pursuits (she did and train Edwina everything she knows after all) and is also her own person. However with the show basically writing her off, that might not happen anymore 😭😭. Maybe it will be Michaela that helps her see this in Scotland? I don’t want to spoil things from the book for you but if they do follow how the book plays out, I see another way and avenue through which Eloise can realistically process and work through her internalized misogyny.

[@user-fc3ul2ye2m]

Hmm… belittling feminine arts feels very realistic. We have beautiful beautiful hand embroidered sheets from older generations at home. Amazing patterns. My parents call them “wasted time for women”. I once asked my father to bring over one large embroidered piece, not sheets, to my house. He put it on the back of his bicycle. Out in the open air, not even a plastic bag for protection. It’s more than 100 years old and it received less attention than his old sneakers. When he arrived at my house it fell on the ground and I felt like crying.

[@Pr0fessorScience]

As someone who did read the books, I can't stress enough how *necessary* it is that the show completely changes her storyline. Her book story is *literally* abusive misogynistic absentee dad apologism, with the added bonus of practically zero character development (and certainly none that feels earned or makes up for the abuse, misogyny, etc). Also, book Eloise has barely a personality to speak of. And that's why, as awful as her character development (and too many choices made in season 3) already comes off to show-exclusive consumers, it's way worse having read the books. I don't think it's possible to convey how much of a blank slate the show was working with for Eloise because there is literally nothing of her in the book series that's fit for screen. They could have made her and her journey ANYTHING, and THIS is what they built when given ultimate freedom.

[@FishareFriendsNotFood972]

LOVE this concept, I see a 'one of the boys' type to be the middle ground between a 'pick me' (pretends to like what her chosen dude likes) and a 'girl's girl' (truly prefers female spaces and company). Eloise is one of the boys in terms of genuinely having more male coded tastes and putting in zero effort to try to empathize with women who may have different views/tastes

[@ohw5306]

Woah I was not expecting so many ppl to have this reaction towards her. I kinda went off on her a bit cause of all said reasons. She seems like the type of character that ppl whos flaws audience would overlook so this has been reassuring.

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Trust me. You are definitely not alone!!

[@CaughtBetweenPages]

True and obvious the moment s2 rolls around and you see that there’s not a convo she has with a woman where she either 1. Actually lets them speak or 2. Takes their interests seriously when she actually lets them get a word in edgewise.

[@pauieeepau]

I already felt she was "not like other girls" in season 1, but you're so right that she picked up her personality traits and goals from her brothers. When she was almost rolling her eyes at the girl talking about her favorite stitches, I wanted to reach in and shake her and say, "let girls enjoy their hobbies, and stop looking down on feminine arts." I couldn't understand why fans touted her as a feminist queen when she looked down on almost all the women she interacted with. It would be interesting to see her character develop though.

[@kwnctantinakyriakou3652]

This! And also, feminist icons don't put other women down... Apart from never really listening to the person she considered 'best friend', she showed 0 interest in understanding Daphnie's perspective in season 1. All she did was judge...

[@libbyhanzlik3110]

Exactly one minute into this video and im already loving it!

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Yay!!!! 😁

[@agataaqui7224]

YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!Your analysis of Eloise was perfect!!

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Thank you ☺️☺️

[@morganbaldwinmiller]

How does it feel to have all the correct opinions??

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

🙂‍↔️🙂‍↕️🥰. That is so sweet. Thank youuuuuuu 😁😁

[@remstew7517]

The moment Eloise lost her father she also lost her eldest brother as he now became her father figure. However, he could never replace her father so it’s like subconsciously she’s trying to fill two voids as a way to ease the losses as a coping mechanism because nobody was there to comfort her. Lady Whistledown became an outlet, a diversion from the pain of loss. Unfortunately, it later would unravel to become yet another loss: the loss of her closest friendship.

[@silencelabyrinth9913]

I really enjoyed your video thank you! Also your embroidery war flashbacks haha xD

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

😂😂. Thank you

[@ariesaraya1822]

I think that's why I like Kate more. She had issues w/ the men and their misogny and discussed it w/ them instead of taking her frustrations out on the women around her.

[@GeekyBibliophile]

As someone who does cross stitching and embroidery, THANK YOU!!! I'm pretty sure I shouted "Fuck you!" to Eloise when she looked down her nose at the girls who enjoyed embroidery. It's challenging, but it's so fun!

[@HushTarot1111]

I’m glad somebody else said it!! Eloise is not a girl’s girl, she proved it in Season 2

[@thaliaayangla7492]

I WAS WAITING FOR THIS ONEEEEE

[@LinhTrần-w2k2s]

And when pp defense Eloise, they try to talk down Pen or any other women in the show 🤨. Even her fans are not girls'girls.

[@ohw5306]

I was worried cause I was expecting that reaction to be the majority of ppl. So to see so many ppl being uncomfortable about her attitude is very reassuring.

[@ohw5306]

Ppl can have what options they want in regards to the Pen situation. But they fail to see the point in her characters unlikability. Ignoring her n Pen, she has shown to be selfish, selfabsord, a VERY bad friend to Cressida, rude, immature and a VERY bad representation of feminism.

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Yeah. I find it very strange that there’s this belief that they can’t defend Eloise without coming down on and trying to make the other women and girls on the show be less in some way. The way I’ve seen them try and defend how horrid Eloise was to Daphne… I can’t understand them tbh.

[@ohw5306]

@@ChroniclesofNoria omg yes even to Daphne the signs were showing 😤😤😤. Daphne keeps trying her best to talk w her as an older sister, but she just can't put aside her grivences to reciprocate this. Whatever flaws Daphne has, that was still plain disrespectful.

[@ohw5306]

@@LinhTrần-w2k2s this though. her audience who puts down other women characters feels very align with her character representation . Very similarly to what was mentioned in the video, this dismissiveness of theirs for one self and the one of the boys attitude seems to subconsciously be there to n it shows. Dare I says, there's a sprinkling of pitting women against each other too.

[@cat_pb]

FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT!!!!

[@KRAKENKRYPTED]

I understand why people are frustrated with Eloise's character development. However, she is more nuanced than people are giving her credit for. I'm not saying she is a perfect character because she isn't. But I'd like to address one criticism of her characterization I am not fond of. Eloise dislikes her peers because they disliked her first. The reason she became a wallflower is because other women her age have difficulty relating to her - both because of her interests and her goals. Discrimination, of any form, is often a two-way street. People don't usually hate other people until they are hated. For example, because I was bullied as an adolescent, I have low opinions of jocks and cheerleaders which I try to combat as an adult. And to varying degrees this serves an important function in society because it helps narrow down the people we might like or love. I'm not saying that being disliked is permission to hate others. I'm saying that Eloise has very few reasons to appreciate or engage with these people because they ostracized her from the start. Why would she be nice? It is my deepest hope, for Bridgerton season 4, that Eloise realizes what she has done to Cressida is cruel. And not because Cressida is a perfect person, but because she deserves to be known beyond the facade. This proves to Eloise that she cannot simply stereotype everyone she meets, because some women will defy those stereotypes and prove to be good friends. But this means Cressida has to understand Eloise's value too - that things that set her apart from her peers can be a blessing. I think she has the makings of a Lady Danbury if she can learn how to wear a mask to achieve her goals. Cressida will need someone smart to help her out of her situation. Eloise will likely be without Penelope for much of the season. And since they will both be in Scotland next season, my hope is that these polar opposites will realize they are more alike than they think.

[@bernova]

This is so true! Hoping that her arc in her season will be about becoming an actual feminist character

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

I really do hope so too!! Keeping my fingers and toes crossed!

[@diyalectic52]

I like and agree with your outlook on Eloise. Really glad to hear your insight into Colin - it makes so much sense! As you say, he is definitely romantic at heart, but I also see now how his mother moulded his persona. Violet was too depressed to really spend time with her kids. And she says to Colin that he has always been the most sensitive one of her children, offering a joke or comfort when it's needed. Colin has a hero complex because of his mother- I just realized he must have tried to cheer her up sometime after their dad died, so his personality must have been shaped by this experience. In the books, he always does the right thing, lightens up the mood when it's needed, he honestly says the right thing to make someone feel better and he's emotionally insightful. I think his unconscious was using Marina (the hero complex which he developed as a boy when he cheered up his mother). But because of his emotionally insightful nature, I can't believe that he wouldn't have become wise to the true nature of their relationship if they got married. Or he'd at least realize what really happened on his side, even if they grew to love one another to some degree. Thanks so much!

[@theWizofRoz]

I’ve disliked Eloise since the beginning because she gave this “not like other girls” vibe while being terrible to other women and not actually being for other women. I’m glad you put this so well!

[@iliandietcoke]

she's all talk, no action We've hear her talk about how women could aspire for more and how shallow her peers are for not seeing beyond marriage, yet we've yet to see her actually stand up and look for more, her little escapades to the print with the working class guy were her feeling excited about trying to find her tabloid whisperer than true curiosity about women's rights, which the guy seemed to point her to, after that she doesn't mention it again I call it quirky feminism, its purpose its to establish Eloise as an anti-establishment character who says clever things and contradicts the norm, while she clearly enjoys the benefits of said establishment, or at least is in a position of losing nothing, and does nothing to overthrow it lol I'd love to see what the women behind her have to say, u know, all the working class women who have no prospects but a life in service, no security net like her family, no say in society, and on top, have to serve women like her

[@bc7911]

This makes perfect sense to me!!! This show/characters have such potential, but after Season 3 I’m scared to hope for anything deep or well thought out with the show going forward.

[@s2ncurai]

Great commentary 😊

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Thank you ☺️

[@dl2725]

I think Eloise’s character arc over 3 seasons might betray a too-many-cooks-in-the-kitchen situation, but if a good show runner gets a hold of her for her season, I could see them doing a great redemption arc for her. They have used Claudia Jessie’s great comedic acting talents in the past, but I know the actress has a deep and mostly untapped (in Bridgerton) ability for heart wrenching dramatic acting. So I really hope they get there. Yeah, her “feminist credentials” in the first 3 seasons look almost like a feminist parody-the best case scenario is the show turns that around and gives her chances to be a) genuinely intersectional (maybe in s4 with Sophie?) and b) truly humane in her interactions with the whole (by then, traumatized) Crane family.

[@janejordan1894]

You are right. I loved your analysis

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Thank you 😊

[@Hermes02]

Really well thought out and presented. Loved the insights on the family as a whole and how that connects to eloises behaviour ❤

[@berryzem]

I feel like her character was assassinated. She was okay in season 1. She's young so she always seemed to have potential for growth. It felt like season 2 was setting her up to really begin re-inventing herself in season 3 after finally starting to experience consequences for her actions and the cherry on top was when Penelope said, "All you do is talk about doing something," only to have Cressida say the SAME thing in season 3 after Eloise was a little too eager to abandon Cressida when she asked her for help because Eloise ultimately learned nothing. I like the comparison you made to her being just like her brothers so part of me is kind of wondering if that was a deliberate choice to not have her develop much in preparation for her arc. I'm not fully convinced, though. I think at this point, given the treatment most of the characters received in season 3, I've decided it is best to enjoy Bridgerton when you have no expectations for it to be any good so it can perhaps occasionally surprise you. Otherwise, you are left with a tangled pile of disappointments to unravel.

[@alwaysrootingfortheantihero123]

i wish eloise and daphne had had more screen time as a duo, their differing personalities would have been a fun dynamic and being close with someone so feminine would have given her more nuance in her feminism.

[@nmhg]

I've said it again and again... Eloise is a bad friend. She is such a Jo March in the worst way possible. She makes fun of her friends and sisters for dreaming of marriage and children and does not listen to Pen's or Cressida's valid complaints and worries... She's so spoiled not only money-wise, bc they're rich af, but also because her whole family loves and indulges her and lets her do as she pleases at the end of the day. Anthony never tried to force her to marry like Daphne, Violet gave up quickly on finding her a husband and let Eloise do as she wants, Benedict lets her get away with murder, Daphne and Francesca indulge her despite how mean she can be to them at times, Colin gives in to her requests easily and only tries to stop her from going to the print shop (which we still don't know how he found that out) by telling her not to but not really doing anything about it.... And even her friends let her walk over them often.... She's so spoiled that she thinks of no one but herself more often than not and her feminism is more perfomative and solely for her benefit, really

[@remstew7517]

16:15 and 16:47 I think so too. I also think that Violet is a perfectionist and Daphne being the eldest daughter aspired to that whereas Eloise does not because she knows it’s not realistic. Eloise and Edmund undoubtedly had a special relationship. After all, they share the letter E. I think losing her father and then subsequently watching her mother become helpless made her feel like she needed to take on a masculine role like her father so that she would never become helpless.

[@MariaRevArt]

About to start this video and I am not at all surprised at the title. Not quite sure what she's "one of the boys" means yet, but Yeah. Eloise is what many people confuse feminism to be.

[@brownenerdygurl]

She definitely isn't a feminist precisely because "she's not concerned with other women." She doesn't listen to them. She really never listened to Penelope or Cressida. So, I agree. She's one of the boys and decidedly NOT a feminist. But what does that mean for her complicity with the patriarchal system?

[@mchjsosde]

This is off topic but ur hair is awesome ❤ I'd like to try that with my own hair

[@TK_Danes]

Honestly, she was all for Lady Whistle down, til it was Penelope Featherington. She reacted JUST like Colin. Upset that someone they personally knew, and was a younger woman, was more accomplished than Eloise and Colin. The same exact behavior. Colin was upset because Lady W, gossiped and did "damage", which it was embarrassing, but be honest, they all had a great resolution without much harm Eloise wasn't going to make it, with the Queen on her throat if Pen did nothing. They are both selfishly man behavior It's all hindsight, but everyone got what they wanted. Eloise can do the same as Pen. Pen opened the doors for her and Colin, they just gotta believe in their own voices instead of shaming Pen for hers

[@dnister_nymph]

Omg, what an interesting take, thanks for the video

[@satanspizza-dq6xf]

I agree, and the title of your video is not surprising to me at all. I liked... no, more like tolerated Eloise from the first scene in S1 we all saw her in, I wanted to like her, I really did. I understand her character, and I wanted to like, love, her for her ideals. But I simply couldn't say more than "I tolerate her" from the first scene in which she was so unfairly critical and straight downplaying Daphne's wants to marry and have children, her desire to have family. I just couldn't push aside that all her talk about women being opressed in the society was all talk, and that only her wants not to be the stereotypical woman were the ones she respected; she was sooo harsh on Daphne, and I just felt sad at how much sh*t she was giving Daphne for wanting what Eloise saw as "stereotypical womanly role/position in society". And that just got soooooooo much worse in S3, with her just sacking Cressida for trying to find a way out of the problems she was facing (mainly the possibility of her getting married off to that old man). If Eloise was a good friend and a feminist (helping a girl in need because feminism is about having the choice) she'd have helped, but instead she just told Cressida she couldn't do it and that rubbed me the wrong way (that's one of the points you brought up in your recent video about Eloise not being a good friend and I agree! she's a sh*t friend, looking only at herself and not caring or helping those she was supposed to see as her friends). I really wanted to like Eloise, but she's just so... focused on herself and just a bad friend, and after S3 I really can't say I like her, especially after her treatment of Cressida. I want her to do better, but damage has been done. Thanks for reading my comment, remember to stay hydrated and have a nice day/evening! :)

[@lucapeyrefitte6899]

Benedict is the one I like from ‘An Offer from a Gentleman’, I hope he becomes that when we see his season

[@ChiliCrisp88]

That’s why I couldn’t stand her character. It’s rather misogynistic. However, I love the actress, Claudia!!! She is sooo beautiful and hilarious, and that’s why I can’t help but like Eloise in some way. She’s the most stunning character imo, besides Edwina

[@hitatchiqueen]

Lmao, i love that you called it a regency fantasy show 😂

[@nicolem2877]

This analysis just proves Penn truly is that girl! ❤ Violet saw it. She is a wallflower that is an EXTRAORDINARY woman. Notice how Violet called her that even BEFORE finding out she was Lady Whistledown. ❤❤ I will say Eloise is entertaining - as long as she’s not making light of your situation. 😂😂.

[@blueberrybabe4192]

I didn’t know people saw Eloise as a feminist. Well, I knew they saw her as an activist (?) and certainly progressive for her time. She is trying to vie for the validation that’s reserved for men whilst acting like she’s above it. Her struggles as a woman are valid because it is a man’s world in which she lives. I could never agree with how she looks down on other women who have different opinions or life paths than her. That’s certainly not feminist.

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

I don’t know if I would even consider her an activist either as activism and class struggle go hand in hand and she doesn’t even consider or work towards that either 😭😭

[@availanila]

Eloise is Obolonsky from _Anna Karenina,_ you have attracted her interest and for that must be thoroughly and fully punished! Seriously, no one more vulnerable than her has not suffered because of her interest in them one way or the other.

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Oooooh. Good point!!! 😂😂

[@camilaorellana447]

She is not a feminist, at least, this season, she lost every feminist view. And this season, she is very rude with everyone

[@juliaboskamp9666]

Eloise is kinda very spoiled, like this girl doesn't know the hardships of Penelope or Cresida. She has a family that loves her even if she will never marry she will be taken care of by her family. Like you just know she will never get sent away because of her bad rep (unlike Cresida) or have to ever experience the hardships of the Featherington women. I get she is much younger than her book caracter but this girl is around 17 to 19, she should know how to show little bit of pity for Cresida who is forced to marry someone who can be her grandpa, or see what Penelope did was to protect her, because she was stupid enough to make the queen think she is lady Whistledown.

[@Lovelyliv007]

I’ve been rewatching the series and realizing I hate Eloise so much. This is a really good point. My best friend and I are huge fans and usually rewatch episodes when we hangout for background noise, and we break down the writing. Both of us point out all of her red flag moments.

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Ooooh. I too like do a lot of rewatches and have it in the background 😭

[@haycjones]

Eloise reminds me of the character of Gentleman Jack from the BBC TV show who was contrasted by her sister and how Gentleman Jack was not a feminist in the true sense the way her homebody sister was

[@atxgypsymua5317]

I thought Eloise did Cressida dirty.

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

She really did!!

[@mayalevine2898]

What makes me really sad is that even if she develops and realizes where she went wrong, I don't think there will ever be a scene where she makes it up to daphne or penelope or cressida. Those characters have kind of completed their arcs and i doubt the actresses will be doing much in the show in the next seasons, so we will never see eloise actually speak with daphne to apologize about degrading and deriding her wishes for life, or having a genuine reconciliation with penelope where she admits that penelope built something really powerful and overcame a lot of hardship, or have a confrontation with cressida where she apologizes for leaving cressida to be maritally SAed and also confronts her over her behavior. I feel like each season becomes more insular and less connected to the larger family and world, and so the thing that would be most satisfying for me--eloise making amends--is not going to happen. especially because the show seems to think she has nothing to make amends for.

[@gelsominagaldieri]

I am not confused at all, I have said that Eloise is not a feminist for the whole of season 3! And I agree with the comment left by @osimiri7111 when she states that Eloise is a representation of the worst stereotypical feminist. Non a person who supports equality but just one who would rather have women in power. This shows in s1 with Daphne when Eloise does not understand why Daphne wants to marry and submit herself to a man. She simply can't accept that other women WANT to be married. Feminists shouldn't avoid marriage. It should be possible to have a choice. In s3 she belittles the girls that love embroidery... like they are LESS or even STUPID for liking it. But there are other 2 examples!!! When she talks to Penelope to give up LW. She says something like "You have to give up LW. You will be a Bton. Can't be both"... WTF ELOISE??? Where is the feminist that thinks that a woman should work? They should be free to make decisions about their own life. And yet to marry, Pen should lose part of herself instead of asking Colin for understanding??? And when Pen gets blackmailed and Colin shuts her up in Bton's house "It is not up to you to decide what we do". AND ELOISE FOLLOWS COLIN!!!! WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT???????? What am I watching??? I was much more upset with Eloise than Colin for that sentence! Her egocentrism and lack of empathy make her a horrible friend (for both Cressida and Penelope). What appalls me is that I see many functionally illiterate that do not get it. Many like Eloise's character. But to me, there is nothing to like about her (of course I love Claudia Jessie but...) I mean that this character has so many flaws that I don't see what to like. And I get that the format is that there will be (hopefully) development and growth once the main lead finds the soulmate but in this season they should have let Eloise grow and develop at least as a friend. And yet she regains her friendship with Penelope after Pen makes amends for her mistakes but Eloise doesn't. So I don't feel this reconciliation was earned at all, at this point they are not anymore at the same level (before both were not good friends to each other).

[@aliiciia555]

@@gelsominagaldieri Another example: season 2, the garden party when she told those girls that they are miserable because they listen to their mother's. This girl is in desperate need of a reality check.

[@moustik31]

You know what, that makes so much sense!!! She says she is a "feminist" but her actions confused me!

[@Lady_Blade_WarAngel]

I’m not shocked. Eloise is NOT a feminist. I like that this video addresses this. Edited to add: I’m 85% blind. My grandmother was a seamstress by trade. While my brothers and cousins went to building sites with my grandfather, because they feared I’d damage my eyes at building sites, my grandmother had me help her, by teaching me to embroider. It’s freaking hard to embroider by hand. She died 4 years ago. I still practise my embroidery, because despite how hard it was to learn, it was something I bonded with her over. Even though I was actually a tomboy. It was one of the ‘feminine’ pursuits that my grandmother actually approved of. To be fair, she came to all my school events with my mother too, including my sport events. 😂

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Awwwww. I love that. And k pray your grandma continues to find peace and rest in the great beyond. Thank you for keeping her memory of her alive and continuing what you learned with her ❤️❤️❤️. And thank you for sharing

[@IshouldProbalyBeSleeping]

I can’t believe that people didn’t clock this on their own I thought it was really obvious that Eloise wasn’t girls girl

[@ChroniclesofNoria]

Unfortunately a lot of people didn't. This is actually one of my most disliked Bridgerton videos, cuz a lot of viewers apparently disagree quite heavily with my take on this. Lol.

[@drcnicole]

First, I must say you are correct. It is my belief that Eloise has the following issues: 1) pretty, wealthy, beloved privilege

[@drcnicole]

Sorry I hit the wrong button! Eloise suffers from: 1) pretty, wealthy, beloved privilege She is a uniquely blessed person. The entire bridgeton family is blessed and privileged. During this time. For a mother to be more interested in her daughter falling in love then social advancement is unheard of and not typical of the time. Eloise has the privilege of being unique. She has the privilege of being able to rebel. She has the privilege of expressing interest in further education. Do you think Cressida kappa could have expressed any of those things in her home? 2) Eloise suffers from boredom Being an intellectual, and starved for intellectual advancement the homogeneous, lacking in diversity of thought, interest, goals etc of the females of the ton she finds very boring. It is true that she does not respect what they are interested in at all. But I do believe that that is born from her general boredom in the fact that there is no diversity of interest. She may believe that they've all been programmed to like the same things to want the same things. 3) Eloise May become a feminist someday. But for today she is just an extremely wealthy, extremely pretty, extremely loved, extremely blessed human being who seems to lack the ability to empathize with others who do not have her privileges. This is a big problem. She needs to grow as a character and I hope she does. The things that she said to Penelope when she found out that Penelope was engaged to her brother. I don't think I could have forgiven her for what she said to Penelope if I were Penelope. Eloise is quite aware that Penelope has low self-esteem. Eloise is quite aware that Penelope is uncomfortable in society. Eloise is quite aware that Penelope doesn't think well of herself. So for Eloise to say that Colin could not possibly love her in the way that she said it was vindictive, manipulative, and cruel. Eloise desperately needs to learn empathy. I love the character but she needs to learn empathy!

[@isabelfernandes7737]

I agree 🤝

[@itsilusion4651]

Here is to hoping