sizing ( POWDER COATED BULLETS ) or NOT!!!!?

Sizing powdercoated bullerts using Lee sizing die, Question, size before or after powdercoating? or do you powder coat the bullets and not size them at all. another good reason to size the powder coated bullet is you won't have to flair the case as much and or risk shaving your powder coating off as you seat the bullet...
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[@drice847]

I had forgotten how much I missed Elvis Ammo being on KZbin or UgeTube on a regular basis...I was excited when I had seen you posted another video, short or not. Thanks for what you do for this community Elvis....You and Full Lead Taco are the reason I got into casting and power coating my own bullets..

[@bibbyman2]

I use a small C press mounted upside down and have a plastic gallon jug that is set up so the exit end of the sizing die sets inside the mouth of the jug. Drop bullet in die and ram it down. Size bullet "poops" out the bottom into the jug. MUCH faster progress.

[@ronaldfutch508]

Around the 380 time, you said the bullet you measured was .370", a 9mm should be around .356" ?

[@Iceberg050]

I size all PC’d 9mm bullets to 356 and they shoot well!

[@emnhw1comcastnet]

I haven't commented before, but you make great vids!!!

[@gregc1749]

logic would tell u the last step before u load them would be to resize. thats the way ive heard its always been done

[@gradytharpe8757]

Curtis depends on what you from your bullets. If they are not hard enough - try dropping them in water and they will over 6-8+ hours harden. If that is not enough, then you can look at adding other metals

[@jetvalmonte4742]

Thank you Elvis, for putting up your powder coating videos. Your videos are down to earth and takes away the mystery from powder coating. Looks like its bye bye messy alox for me from now on.

[@elvisammo]

hey Jet Valmonte... glad to help my friend. ... thanks for taking the time to comment! !!!

[@donbarile8916]

Bring Back Elvis Ammo! Gitcha some Patreon and to Hell with defunding.

[@denniswilliams5402]

12-15-22. If i want to wind up with .358 bullets do i use a .357 mold and powdercoat and size to .358. Or do i use a .358 powdercoat and size to .358. Which would be best?

[@keith9875]

Performed my first successful powder coating on 9mm LEE bullet today. Much, much easier than I was expecting. Loaded about 100 rounds with the new bullet and I can’t wait to start again tomorrow. Thanks Elvis for your fine instructions.

[@robertpowell2746]

Elvis I quench when they come out of the mold and I also quench after I power coat and they come out of the oven. Don't know whether that's the correct way of doing it but it seems like they always come out pretty nice.

[@patrickbelongea6896]

I like to size after powder coating. Sizing first would require lubing, sizing, then cleaning off lube before powder coating can be done.

[@nivesknight]

Great video. I dont think the bullets are getting stronger or harder. I have done a lot of metal work the more you work a metal the more fatigued the metal tends to get. In the end if it fits properly and is not over pressurized the barrel will resize it and will fit perfectly. If you sized a 357 bullet down to say 9mm it will increase the spread on target. Leaving them a thousand over is a good idea. As a example a 9mm barrel may be .355 but the bullets typically are .356 or even .357. In the end it is what works the best for you and your firearm. Be safe. Ask questions and have fun

[@Pyrex238]

Elvis, feed the damn rooster!

[@wtom100]

It really is necessary to lightly spray lube the bullets after they are powder coated and before they are sized. Makes it so much better. I boil some water and dunk the bullets in it to get the lube off. Soapy water would probably work just as well. Absolutely perfect results. Home made lanolin/alcohol spray lube.

[@theeasternfront6436]

Wish I could find em for $20! Odd note, just bought a .358 and it DIDN'T come with alox. Come to think of it I should leave a review on those jokers.

[@thebaddest2562]

my 6 cavity mold from lee tgrows them from .358 to .360

[@elvisammo]

+Miles Huggins hey Miles, some how missed your comment, Thats kinda strange. it sounds fine to me that it throws 358 some people like that. If its a problem im sure Lee will correct it for you.....

[@JaredHempfield]

Getting that same setup and press delivered tomorrow! Powdercoating mine in neon green so I can harvest them out of the dirt easier. The sizing process is even fun to watch, good video, thanks!

[@OTG414]

Cast bullets are supposed to be .001-.002 oversized. They are not supposed to be the same size as jacketed bullets. Cast bullets will not be as accurate or clean as jacketed bullets unless you make sure they are a couple thou oversized.

[@madewithscraps]

Correct. It's all about the material type and sealing the bullet to barrel rifling. Copper seal is different than that of lead.

[@SuperFlatrock]

I've cranked out 1,000s of 9mm bullets using MP Molds (.356/125g and 130g). I powder coat and size using a .356 lee sizer kit. After reloading, there is always a slight bulge in the 9mm case which is designed to accept .355 9mm bullets. As long as the OAL is acceptable for your gun, the rounds will chamber and fire just fine.

[@chknlyps2373]

I like to call that bulge the bullets panty line... lol

[@prebaned]

Your far better served sizing all after coating. You really need consistency for accuracy. Larger/smaller bullets give higher /lower pressure in turn faster/slower FPS. Letting the rifiling throat leade in size oversized bullets will compromise the coating also, inducing leading. Revolvers are a whole nother issue with proper size. The cylinder throats determine the size basee on the barrel groove diameter.

[@rohawaha]

Back in the stone age " 40 yrs ago " I learned to cast from an old guy who was very well known , he casted bullets for the US Olympic Bulls eye team for many years. I though sizing was a pain in the rear, but I was also an accuracy fanatic. The wise old fellow explained it to me like this. He said " Yes you can shoot unsized bullets , but think of it in terms of s 6 cylinder car engine, if each cylinder had a different size piston the dam thing would never run right " well it made sense to me then and I still size all my bullets and I almost always have very good accuracy.

[@elvisammo]

Hey Roha Waha... He sounds like a smart man! I tend to size everything but the 223. the lee 223 seems to make such little contact with the rifling .. only the thin driving bands.. But I am looking into getting a custom mold to change that... good to hear from ya!!!!

[@jimvac77]

Ok Boomer. :) That car analogy is just not good, sorry.

[@archangel20031]

I have done powder-coating professionally and the cured powder should be rather thick (could be anywhere from .010 to .040 thick) if applied in the traditional way, so I'd want to size before coating to get it sized correctly, then after to bring it back down. The shake and bake method Elvis uses obvoiusly ends up being a much thinner coating. And no matter the thickness, as long as there is some coating thickness, it should act as a lubricant preventing lead contacting and sticking to the barrel.

[@battalion151R]

Holy Crap! With the price of ammo skyrocketing, and all us newbies powdercoating, the price of old used countertop ovens has exploded. I had to spend $10.00 on a used convection! 😆 With this liberal congress, we may have to worry about a countertop oven ban. Thanks for the tips Elvis. I "accidentally" got a .357 sizer. I stuck one in my cart, to research, and my wife ordered it. I've been sizing 9's and .38's with it, post powdercoating. Haven't had any accuracy problems out of the .38's. And, I tried running a factory 9mm jacketed through it. It wouldn't drop free.

[@journeyquest1]

I powder coat and then resize to remove the powder coat.

[@michael184272]

Another very informative video..thanks Question..How is that LEE single stage press working out for you? I would like to get a single stage press to resize on and wasn't sure which Lee to purchase.. any information would be greatly appreciated..thanks

[@robertrivasarroyo1174]

From what I've heard, you don't need to size cast bullets but it makes sense to size powder coated bullets because your adding thickness to the surface of the lead.

[@elvisammo]

It is a subject that gets some scrutiny. In my experience sizing is always best. Even in the old Luber Sizer‘s the bullet was lubed and sized. Just my thoughts and my experience

[@w.rustylane5650]

I use my 9mm cast bullets straight from the mould as they drop at .356. After tumble lubing them I load them. I've never got into powder coating as of yet. I see a lot of reloaders using powder coating but I've got too much lube to use up before I ever need any more lube. Rusty, K9POW in eastern Tennessee.

[@mpccenturion]

Well - this is most interesting. I load for 303 Brit. I have 5 rifles and they run from .312 to .316. So powder coating would make sense for me, as I load brass for individual rifles. Thank you.

[@archangel20031]

To size your bullets before or after, that is the question, and I'm betting the answer is yes to both, because if the bullet is already oversized, it's going to be even more so with the powder coat, and at least if you size it before you powder coat it, you bring it down to the appropriate size, then you only need to resize it the thickness of the newly added powder.

[@Billbobaker]

I often size after casting and then lightly powder coat them and then load for the Lee 95 TC cast bullets. they are so tiny for 9mm that they drop right in the tube. But I think you are right sizing after because having to clean off the lube to powder coat is a wasted step.

[@wkelley4127]

At the beginning of this video I thought the question was 'should I size before or after I powder coat bullets" Gee, I don't think that question was really answered except for Elvis' example is sizing after powder coating. I tried sizing after powder coating and I see what appears to be bare lead on the sides of the bullets after sizing. Maybe size before and after, however that is a lot more effort and time. Is it worth sizing twice or maybe once before powder coating ?

[@rvenneman]

Can I use the resizer with the LEE hand press?

[@elvisammo]

Hey Richard Venneman Your in luck.... It looks like you can! thanks for watching!

[@thomaschristophe8464]

IT's not to hard to size bullet coated with 0.006" more thickhness

[@mickmoriarty5442]

Great video, thanks,, lots of questions I didn't know I had have been answered by this vid.

[@AnantaAndroscoggin]

Then . . . if you shoot more than one gun in the same caliber, resizing after coating is probably a good idea to start with. There's no way their chambers are likely to be the same.

[@hartstudebakerkid]

I use a Lee 105 grain trunicated cone 9mm mold for 9mm I size after powder coating but for .38, 357 magnum and .38 S&W I do not run them though the sizer.

[@texasbradley]

Elvis, I'm shooting a 327 federal magnum which has a .312 diameter bullet. Lee does not make .312 diameter resizer, nor a .313. can I get away with a .311 resizing kit ?

[@gregoryvanek9038]

Lee will make you a custom die. Give them a call. ... or buy the .311 and have it honed to .312.

[@texasbradley]

@@gregoryvanek9038 thanks Freddy, since its powder coated lead cast .313 should be ok. I loaded some up last night will shoot them soon.

[@Tsmace33]

I know this video is older but i'm really curious. does sizing after you coat them damage the coating? i have zero experience and am just taking notes

[@craignmz5264]

Terran Mace no, you can put a hammer to one and the powder coating stays on your projectile.

[@Tsmace33]

@@craignmz5264 so the sizer doesn't shave? It squeezes?

[@craignmz5264]

Terran Mace correct.

[@l.a.3887]

Thanks for the info Elvis

[@christopherpeterson1400]

What about gas checks ? Do powder coat bullets still need gas checks ? Some say no, some say yes?

[@MasterChief0093]

How do you deal with clay pigeons in your range scrap? How do you remove them from the mix? They melt into something terrible

[@l.a.3887]

Thank you just makes sense to size after powder coating

[@jamesowens2781]

You got me into powder coating I size my PC bullets and if it is a hot round I gas check it. If it is subsonic probably not depends on Chrono the shot group and the holes in target if it is key hole then maybe gets a gas check

[@TerryLooft]

I'm ready to try this, I've been powder coating for quite a few years on automotive restoration parts. My question is why do you not get paint fouling in the barrel from the heat re-melting the paint?

[@Prepare2Survive]

Fortunecookie is probably right. Especially if you are using a factory crimp die because that'll essentially size them while inside the brass.

[@elvisammo]

yhea especially if you're not far out on the dimensions. .....

[@kellylunceford5625]

Do you lube them before you put them through the resizer??

[@thebaker7]

I do. A little dab of lotion goes a LONG way. Then wipe them down after sizing.

[@stephenalibozek1058]

Yes that answered most of my questions but the last one is do you still lube them with the liquid Alex after you coat them and size them

[@kirkboswell2575]

H82Bpor, the reason for gas checks is because of speed limitations of cast bullets. Pure lead can't be fired faster than 900 fps without leading the barrel. Casting harder alloys allows speeds up to 1200-1300 fps. For anything faster than that, you needed both a hard alloy, and gas checks to prevent leading the barrel. Even so, even with gas checks, cast bullet speeds are mostly limited to 2200-2300 fps although a few of the old timers could get 2500 fps or thereabouts. With this "new fangled" powder coating, it is starting to look like gas checks will become a thing of the past (although I'm still investigating - not converted yet).

[@elvisammo]

hey kirk... we will be learning a little more coming up pretty soon.

[@leenelson5823]

Bottom line is that you need to measure your components to know what you have to begin with.

[@Brazos50]

I've had problems with powder coating being scraped off when resizing. Leaving shiny lead exposed.What am I doing wrong?

[@logstuff1]

me too?

[@archangel20031]

If you use the "Shake & Bake" method Elvis uses there will be thin and bald spots on the bullets so some lead might show through. Originally the powder was blown over the part and because it was charged with huge amounts of static electricity the powder would be drawn to and would cake up on the part nice and thick, then baking would give you a thick coating. I have a metal security plate I bolted inside my mailbox that I powder-coated red more than 12 years ago and it has been out in the weather of Illinois all that time and has yet to show any signs of rust.

[@logstuff1]

Well bought some water based bullet lube that Elvis talked about in another video. Applied it to my freshly cast and powder coated bullets and hadno damage to the powder coat. Try it!

[@skipallen3309]

Yeah, after watching your video and hearing about the lube and sizing kit from Lee being about $20 but what about the press you're using; what's that called? That's not part of the deal with Lee sizing kit.

[@evann1136]

THats a reloading press, you can use any except dillon

[@paulspeers272]

That looks like a Lee press. It’s one of their smallest/simplest presses. Should be about $30 if I recall correctly.

[@johnjohnson7576]

@@paulspeers272 Not so long ago,lee was giving those presses for free when you bought a reloading manual.

[@ekim000]

Thanks for putting in the effort in putting out this info for our benefit.

[@Prepare2Survive]

I size my 9mm to 356 before powder coating them and then to 357 after powder coating. For 223 I size to 224 before coating and 225 after coating. For 300 BLK I size to 308 before coating and 309 after coating. For 38/357 mag I size to 357 before coating and 358 after coating. The 2nd sizing is probably not needed because most of the time they easily push though the sizer after coating them.

[@elvisammo]

hey prepare2survive, yhea that works, I have done some of that myself. my question is why wouldn't you just size to 357 on the 9mm instead of sizing 356 first? on the 223 I like the idea, I just worry that the sizing softens the bullet what are your thoughts on that? and don't tell me OCD ; )

[@Prepare2Survive]

+elvis ammo I used to size the 9mm to 357 at first and then to 358 after coating for my Ruger pistol, but I started going down to 356 followed by 357 after coating because the lone wolf barrel for my glock is tight and I just figured I might as well keep the bullets smaller to avoid any feeding problems or higher pressure. I probably shouldn't worry because the lee factory crimp die makes it work fine regardless. I don't get a lot of resistance pushing through the 223 bullets in the sizer so it probably doesn't effect the internal hardness and probably just the sides a little, but because they are getting powder coated that shouldn't matter. Yesterday I just tested a batch of powder coated 223 bullets sized to 225 without gas checks using IMR 4227 powder and I got a max velocity of 2800 fps with 17.9 grains. The primers didn't look flat and I didn't see any other signs of excessive pressure so I might even be able to go higher, but first I want to test for accuracy up to that point because if I see the accuracy getting progressively worse the faster the bullets go I'll just stop and find the most accurate load below that. When working up a load like this it's probably better to have consistent sized bullets so you wont get fluctuations in pressure.

[@elvisammo]

+Prepare2Survive yhea 357 is about right for these pc bullets. I will probably try that. just to see if there is any difference or benefits. originally I think I changed back to 356 for easier bullet seating, less flair. .. let me know how the new powder works for ya.. I have my eye on that one! I have a 1-8 16" barrel.

[@robertpaasch6343]

THANK YOU!!!

[@Gunmonkey5]

I do both, size after casting and size after every powder coat. I also buy the custom sizing dies from Lee specific to my barrel size

[@loboel264mag7]

Elvis Ammo I need to give you a thank you for teaching me powder coated bullets. I didn't like the mess of lubing cast bullets. I have a suggestion for a good video for you. Use the same bullet weight with a jacketed bullet vs a lubed cast bullet vs powder coated with the same powder charge and primer across your crony. Thank you again Sir

[@PyroRob69]

How the hell did I miss this video? Keep it up!

[@lestergillis8171]

I DO have a LEE press just like that one. I use it for:Bullet swaging, Ram Prime, separate de-priming, and rifle reloading. It serves multiple roles for me now.

[@ASwordoftheLordGod]

MY QUESTION IS WAS IT $25? IS IT AS CHEAP AS THIS GUY CLAIMS IT IS SO FOR THE WHOLE KIT 50 BUCKS.? AND WHERE DID YOU GET IT AT WHAT'S THE NAME OF IT....???

[@lestergillis8171]

@@ASwordoftheLordGod If memory serves me right, I bought it as a "stand alone" item about 20 yrs ago or more. It also works well for single stage rifle case reloading, de-priming, priming, ect.

[@lestergillis8171]

@@ASwordoftheLordGod Yes... it was about that price. Not any more though...

[@lestergillis8171]

@@ASwordoftheLordGod I didn't buy it as a "kit" as I already had a turret press from several years prior. I bought as a "stand alone" because I needed it for "other" utility work.

[@lestergillis8171]

@@ASwordoftheLordGod They WERE about that price, once upon a time. NOT any more...🤔

[@DC632A]

Ok so why powder coat a bullet?

[@Dieselhorses]

You powder coat to replicate the copper jacket that commercial bullets are equipped with. Just as effective but cost LESS.

[@theeasternfront6436]

Carpe Diem No smokey lube. No lead on your hands. Very clean bore after shooting. Etc.

[@jungleno.]

You can load your ammo to a higher velocity without fear of leading the barrel. Powder coating a cast bullet also gives you a few more feet per second in velocity over a cast lead bullet. Another benefit of powder coating is that it doesn't matter much how hard or soft your lead alloy bullet is.

[@bippie23456]

Answer.... Yes. Size after powder coat... period.

[@elvisammo]

yes Bippie! you got it!!!!!pc then size. is how I do it. ....

[@Leatherbark]

Good Information E.A. ..........I am getting ready to cast some C.312 -185 Lee rifle bullets for my 1909 Argentine Mauser. It has a .315 groove diamter. Hopefulley the Lee bullets will come out of the mold at .313 and the powder coating will add enough so that when I use my .316 sizer I wont have to beagle the mold.

[@Wayne72LEVRAI]

The only issue of a over-oversized cast bullet (.005 inches for example), is only leading the barrel. But powder coat is here to prevent that from happening. So where is the issue ? Just use them straight.

[@DustinNulf]

If you have a .3575+ sized 9mm you may have issues getting them to seat in the case and you may have serious pressure issued in the chamber when shooting them. Bullets are already larger than the bore of the gun. Allowing them to be even larger can create problems.

[@randy8915]

I size all my coated bullets. Why? Because all the coated bullets I use measured are .001-.002 over, even though they are sized by the manufacturer after coating. My 38 super race gun uses .356 dia projectiles, the coated bullets I have purchased from 2 different makers have been oversized by the amount stated above. That may not sound like much, as DustinNuff said pressure go up and consistency suffers. A $40 lee sizer is cheap insurance. Hope this helps

[@thebaddest2562]

my .356 die sizes to .358 its a lee also i like that myself but my 308 die from le sizes it exactly to .309 just like it says

[@elvisammo]

+Miles Huggins now..... 356 die sizing to 358 is what some people do on purpose believe it or not. but still odd! thanks so much for your comments, keep them coming, sorry I missed them until now!!!

[@archangel20031]

September 2020, they are going for about $50 on EBay. The powder is melted onto the surface of the bullet, so it's already one with the bullet, but sizing should not effect it one way or the other. Take a hammer and smash one and you can see that it will conform to the new smooshed shape.

[@johnjohnson7576]

I just bought a sizing die on ebay for 31 bucks. It does not come with the liquid alox.

[@goinglt3]

Thank for all your videos. I use 'em as almost as the reloading bible. I have a off the wall question. I power coated, went great. I bought the Lee Precision - 90046 SIZING DIE KIT .356 now here is the question. After resizing the lead and load them to boolits. Can I use the same die to resize the brass to lessen the "bulge" or do I need to buy to buy the factory crimp die?

[@JamesS.254]

Crimp dies are designed to put a tighter grip from the brass to bullet, they will not take any bulge out as they mostly crimp the very top edge of the brass, maybe only the top 1/16 of an inch or so. Just make sure your brass is properly trimmed and sized with a sizing die before loading the bullets. Too tight of a crimp will give it a fat guy with a tight belt kind of look, like an hourglass. This is no goodies.

[@gregoryvanek9038]

@@JamesS.254 Lee’s Carbide Factory Crimp Die will resize the brass after loading. It will remove bulges.

[@JamesS.254]

@@gregoryvanek9038 After re-reading the original post, I see where I made my mistake. But wouldn't you want to remove the bulge before you load it?

[@robertdonnelly7897]

What digital measurer is that?

[@brandonlopez5855]

Awesome info learned a lot!

[@davidemery1773]

With your ballistics could you do an episode with regards to this technique making hollow points for 9mm? m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3bWhXdueK-td8k

[@jimmyleejerzyk3546]

Can the 9mm powder coated bullets work for 38/357

[@elvisammo]

hey , Jimmielee I don't see why not.. I just like a heavier bullet but if your getting .358 from the 9mm shouldn't be a problem at all. if for some reason they are not flying straight then you can just discontinue. make a little bit and give em a shot... let me know how they work for ya? also make sure your not getting lead in the barrel. .... happy shooting! !!

[@Goldenkryptonite999]

I had my cast bullets come out of the Lee mold closer to .360?!! Thank you for this video because I was having trouble chambering in my semiautomatic pistols.

[@geraldf.1222]

You have to stick to SAAMI Specs on loaded ammo, to make sure it will function. If you're casting the right mix of alloy, you should get close enough to maybe not need to size, but you should lube. Powder coating or lubricating and correct bullet size are both essential.

[@l.a.3887]

You do a great job of teaching I size after powder coating and I size all of my cast bullets I learn something on all of your videos always I really like the little c press a lot. GRATE VIDEO THANKS ELVIS

[@bgufford]

Elvis just found your site and watched this video. I've been casting for 50 years. I especially tuned in to your comments regarding bullet diameter. I have always slugged my bores for cast bullets. Then I size two thousands over bore diameter on average using a Lyman #2 alloy. If I am using hard cast bullets that are 18+ brinell above 1600 then I go one thousands over bore diameter with a gas check design bullet or I use a plain base bullet with a custom plain base gas check. The objective is to have the bullet seal the bore with proper bullet obturation which is dependent on alloy, diameter, velocity. Casting is a science but can be simple of all you are doing is pistol bullets under 1500 fps. But even then, proper diameter is very important. Thanks for the videos!

[@richmiller6284]

Something I didn't hear mentioned.. From my understanding, the bullet should be .001" over the diameter of the groove measurement.. This would be the size you want your sizer to be.

[@edadpops1709]

Thanks for the answer.ive got to slug my Marlin,but suspect it to be over sized.

[@Uncle_odagoat]

wouldn’t sizing after powder coating remove the powder coating?

[@2Supra4U]

nope, it doesn't

[@wtom100]

Spray lube them if you have a problem.

[@edadpops1709]

Is there any noticable accuracy difference of cast PC bullets with grease grooves tumble grooves or no grooves? I have some of each? Also can i PC over greese grooves. Or whats the best way toget rid of wax lube, so i can PC.

[@olreprobate4777]

I’ve been experimenting with different powders. Super Chrome being the latest. Amazing accuracy with my .40. Older fellows at the range are impressed. Adds .003-.005”. I size after powder coat. Keeps everything uniform. Thanks sooo much

[@werre2]

First powdercoat, then size. This is a must because I use molds that have been dremeled to gain some extra diameter and get rid of the wax groove.

[@erniemurdock8658]

Elvis Ammo, I bought a Hornady Bullet Feeder. I use coated cast bullets for my 45acp. I found out that they don't work in Hornady's bullet feeder. Now would I have to size all my coated cast bullets in order to make it work?. Hornady told me that the collets scrap the power coating and cause the bullet not to feed. So if the coated cast bullet was sized correctly there should be no scraping and the bullet should feed correctly. What do you think.

[@PyroRob69]

If the collet is scraping the powder coat off, I would suspect it would also scrape off any other kind of tumble lube as well.

[@erniemurdock8658]

@@PyroRob69 I sized my 200 Grn coated bullets and tried again using the Hornady bullet feeder and it still didn't work. I even tried using a 230 Grn FMJ and it still didn't work. It was a small investment nothing lost. But I would not recommend the Hornady bullet feeder.

[@PyroRob69]

Yeah, that kind of sucks. Since I load them all on a single stage press, that is one less problem I have to worry about.

[@mikelwalters6505]

Hello Elvis, I'm a novice reloader. When casting your bullets with wheel weights do you add any other metal or not. thanks

[@gvet47]

I still see no advantage in powder coating bullets. If the bullet alloy is right, is sized for your barrel and you don't push the velocity then they are accurate and no leading.

[@thesayxx]

thats allot of ifs there. bare lead is all fine and dandy with black powder velocities but not with smokeless powder. Its a relatively easy and cheap way of pushing cast lead at modern rifle calibre velocities.

[@1911GreaterThanALL]

Good luck trying to easily cast high antimony rifle calibers...

[@madewithscraps]

If you would try and fairly compare, chronograph the coated to your lead, there would be an answer. The coated bullets are 15-35 fps faster, depending on caliber and bullet size, with the identical powder charge and OAL seating. This proves Less Friction, which means Less Barrel Contact and Wear. This also translated to your ability to retain the identical FPS, with a 2-3 10ths less powder charge to save you money if wished. As they say' "You can't See, if you Don't Look".

[@robbiekipping1124]

If they load and shoot cool

[@dwradford]

I just did my first batch of cast PC 9mm using a Lee TL356-124-TC mold. I needed to size before and after powder coating because some of the rounds were coming in at ~362+ out of the mold. Not sure what the issue is as most were perfect (~5% are way too big). What is the issue causing some to be so oversized out of the mold? On another note, I used your low heat method for PC. I put them in the oven at 275 for 15 minutes. Then let them cool and toss them in a cardboard box. They broke apart perfectly.

[@theeasternfront6436]

You da man Elvis.

[@rogerjackson5552]

I slugged my 9mm barrel, .356. My Lee 356-120 TC mold drops .358 bullets. Plan to powder coat. Wisdom says the final size should be .001 - .002 bigger than the barrel. Should I go for .357? Might .358 be to tight for my pistol? Thoughts?

[@elvisammo]

hey Roger, I don't think 2 over is gonna be a problem, but if you're gonna be powder coating you'll probably get an additional 3 , that could be a problem. .. thanks for watching and commenting Roger!

[@paulhamilton5634]

Calipers are not as acurate as micrometers. You can squeeze down .002 easily with calipers.

[@TRprepper]

Yep 359 to 361 was what my 9mm's came out to be so yep they need to be resized.

[@elvisammo]

hey TR! so that's about what you're getting to.... how ya liking your pc bullets in glock 19. .. all still going good?

[@ammoadam6902]

So, if you quench the bullet after powder coating. Especially since you've got your new method you said you do that. Does the powder coat sink into the bullet better still? I know you said after you bake them you go ahead and size. So I'm wondering do you do that bc they're warm? Seems like a trade off bit very interesting..?? 🤔🤔

[@wetwriterrr]

Thanks Elvis, you clarified this issue and it makes sense just to resize after powder coating. And any time spent in your reloading cave is good time. The grass mowing can wait.

[@stonekold]

Did you try Thor's Axe Cast Bullet Lubrication and Rooster Jacket floor wax hack?

[@crackerstorm112]

a pleasure to watch. thanks.

[@elvisammo]

hey enoreach007... Im glad ya like the videos! Thank you for your comments and thanks for watching!

[@sidneywhite749]

Newbie question: when you size the bullet what happens to the overage?

[@thebaker7]

It gets compressed, as long as it fits in the sizing die.....it compresses it.

[@fredmeebley]

It is such a small difference between sized and unsized, there really isn’t any material to displace. Technically if you were to look microscopically, the driving bands compress into the lube grooves to make the driving bands longer and the lube grooves narrower. In this case there is no lube grooves and he is making the entire bearing surface microscopically longer.

[@rodhowarth4062]

The bullet gets longer as it is extruded. The length is so small it won't affect the C.O.L.

[@Bthaman69]

Zinc bullets. Whats the verdict? You still making them?

[@lup7271]

so sizing is pressing the bullet slightly together to make sure they fit the barrel?

[@JamesS.254]

Basically, yes. Most likely it will make the bullet ever so slightly longer as the lead needs a place to go when it gets the squeeze.

[@lup7271]

@@JamesS.254 ah, thanks

[@comodice905]

ur on the right track just got trim up the losseys crimp hard run through resizin dye bust them bulges out v duct um barrel them bang down range into water tank recover perfect bullet reload it pow boom goes the dynomo

[@independentthinker8930]

If I don't, they won't chamber in my 9. I want to get the lee size kit, faster and easier than my lyman 45 lubesizer

[@TRPack]

You have made some great points Thank You