TOXIC Sk*nny Culture Is BACK (this is seriously scary stuff...)

[@AbbeysKitchen]

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[@Kikiissewcute]

Abbey I’m so glad you made this video. I opened up TikTok and on my fyp it was a girl who wrote“ I just watched the Victoria’s Secret fashion show” and she had a bowl of ICE as her meal. The caption said low key my motivation.

[@Gabwel6169]

I’m writing my law school thesis on the effect of tik tok on kids, especially family channel who are exploiting kids. It’s so disheartening to read actual research studies about TikTok. Thanks for this video

[@beccaquesnel2806]

It's weird being old enough to remember how prevalent it was on Tumblr etc and to now see all the skinny culture come surging back.... it is lowkey devastating. This time feels so much more intense too- all this anti-aging rhetoric x real-deal weight loss drugs + Botox, fillers, etc.. it's just a whole new level of exhausting and unrealistic standards - hoping the next generation can re-unlearn it all

[@aquao5372]

Always some new trend

[@7384]

So glad I deleted social media years ago so u will no longer have bear witness to these trends

[@AbbeysKitchen]

honestly that's a good shout, protect your peace 💖

[@surmon11]

u are literally on social media right now

[@dreamscape405]

Me too! It was truly a blessing ❤ I have so much more peace, and calm in my life now.🥂💃

[@88QueenOfHearts]

I forgot to join anything beyond KZbin?! 🙃

[@fitt_inglysammie1654]

I did the same thing . I still watch youtube, but i deleted all scrollable social media . Nothing that has to do with posting about myself. I deleted all sociall media that i have issues with ​@surmon11 . If yistube isn't an issue than there's no need to delete it.

[@aliciawilliams8117]

Liv created a new account right after, they aren’t stopping the issue

[@mmr1996]

New account banned again today 🥳🥳🥳

[@amyteets8589]

I remember being plus sized living through the 90'skinny culture. I appreciate being older, and having voices of reason to refer to, like Abbey. I am going to pay more attention to how my nieces are talking about their bodies so I can be a supportive adult figure in their life. It is crazy that all of this is trending just months after Ilona Maher was the cover model for Sports Illustrated.

[@cursedreverie]

I was on Twitter recently after a really long absence. I accidentally clicked the communities thing and the very first thing that popped up was an pro-ED group for 12-19 yr olds. Reported it, it doesn't go against Twitter's terms.

[@Gee-xb7rt]

twitter is a dumpster fire, and people that use it know it.

[@AbbeysKitchen]

oh my gosh im so sorry you have to see that

[@mr.zardoz3344]

Contemptible at best. You should get out more.

[@DumbFuxk]

😂😂😂 there's worse stuff than that on their they ain't gonna take it down, no point in wasting your time

[@WinnieRoe]

This is truly horrendous and terrifying. I slowly started deleting most social media since 2020, excluding Pinterest and YT. I STRUGGLED with an ED from middle school to about 22 years old. I looked starved and sickly but when I looked in the mirror, I thought I looked severely overweight. I gained about 35lbs when I was pregnant with my daughter a little over a year ago and more following her birth due to stress from a year long medical issue she went through. I'm currently 26, one month away from turning 27. Yeah, I'm overweight but I am actively working on taking care of my body for myself and my daughter, a healthy way finally, something I am certainly proud for. After I had given birth, I so desperately wanted to revert back to my ED way of losing weight but I knew it would harm me in the long run. I don't know how this new skinny culture is even allowed on social media giving the rise in mental health and weight struggles, especially in the younger generations. I'm scared to see what skinny trend will be around when my daughter is a teen. Thank you Abbey for addressing this issue, we need more people like you who promote healthy lifestyles and healthy weight loss!

[@Lori_L]

Good for you for not giving into ED. If you're interested in recovery related material, I have a page on FB-Instead of ED

[@mr.zardoz3344]

😂😅

[@albertheijnpindakaas]

Whenever I watch any of your video's, immediately after I get loads of problematic diet-video's in my recommendations. I wish the algoritm would differentiate.

[@mette1983]

I have been suffering from anorexia for 28 yrs (since I was 14), have spent a combined of 5 yrs in hospitals bc I have been close to death SO many times. My body doesn’t function probably and I’m unable to work so please to anyone reading this: YOU ARE PERFECT THE WAY YOU ARE AND YOU DON’T NEED TO LOOSE WEIGHT. IT WON’T MAKE U HAPPY!

[@INAN2222]

💖

[@ronweasly4839]

Love to you my dear ❤

[@jessicakathryn]

I agree that ED related content, and content promoting EDs is harmful. I would be interested to hear your take on videos that promote and glamorize Binge Eating Disorder, and Fat Acceptance content.

[@serenac0299]

When I look at Liv Schmidt she just gives off such strong vibes of a rich, private school bully that was spoiled by her dad & bullied people that shopped at secondhand stores in like a 2004 romantic comedy I don’t know how anyone actually takes anything she says seriously like she doesn’t even seem like she’s for real she seems like an archetype

[@pipsli]

she truly is such a mean spirited person

[@mmr1996]

The young girls worship her and think she is so smart. It is very scary. What makes me the maddest is that in an article I read she was talking about college. She said all she saw were blonde pretty girls and there was pressure to look a certain way. So after all of that why would she want to make other people feel that way. Like literally saying being skinny =happiness. Some people know it’s bad and block. But the young girls take it all in. They ask her questions like she’s a professional. It is very very sad.

[@mmr1996]

She was banned again today. I hope this one sticks! She does have a new account acting like it’s not her…..🤷🏻‍♀️

[@SherydeWinter]

No girl who lied as a pre-teen or older in the 90's would oink oink herself, we got to make it through the 90s with our surroundings oink oinking us on the daily.

[@whelkpeopleofdoom]

I've lost a lot of weight in the past 10 months, and I have an overweight friend who wants to do the same so she's always asking me for tips and advice. I am always so anxious about tip-toeing that pro-ed line when I give advice because my weight loss has all been diet based, AND I was super anorexic in the 00s, so I'm VERY careful. Plus I always tell her "this is what worked for me, but you should check with your doctor." I hope shes not watching this kind of stuff. ((FWIW I am also under the supervision of a doctor and I'm doing great. My blood work always comes back excellent. 😊))

[@sarahjanefrost]

The problem with TikTok in 2024 is that it exists.

[@laurafroehler83]

Every parent must watch

[@LouiseBerendsen]

You and some other dieticians have helped me heal. I know that counts for many of your followers. And on top of that, you manage to influence the SYSTEM. I admire that so much. Thank you ❤🎉

[@antoniyaNeff]

Thank you for covering this! So scary to see these things on my feed. Giving 2012 tumblr vibes

[@Fraangipani]

Thanks for this video! I struggled with ED for years and when I stopped frantically trying to be unrealistically thin, I yo-yo'ed frequently...it was hard trying to eat "normally". I had gotten to a size that was not comfortable for me and I was not able to do the physical things I liked to do. In the past year I lost twenty pounds and I am not even close to the weight I was at my worst in my ED. I don't want to ever get that low again and I feel so good at the weight I'm at today! Not all weight loss means ED. But I know for me, having had that issue being at a healthy weight and maintaining it without going to extremes has been quite the journey. Abby, your videos have helped me tremendously with learning how to find a healthy balance! 😃

[@MagicShow-y4e]

At least I’m trying to lose weight in a healthy way. Those TikToks are scary af

[@AbbeysKitchen]

good for you TikTok is a scary place

[@TA12002]

losing weight is fatphobic

[@fusya8280]

I hope this video gets onto as many recommendation pages as it possibly can. It is so devastating to see the ED propaganda being promoted by the algorithm. It happens so naturally it's impossible to recognize that you're in this wormhole. And the worst thing, you only realize how bad it is when you're already in too deep. So thank you for calling out this bs and hopefully your video would help someone become more aware of what's being pushed onto them by these creators

[@createinspain]

Never been on Thick Tok. One of an older generation, I am more concerned with my health and keeping healthy, than anything else. When I don't feel like exercising, I tell myself how much better I will feel when I do. I'm aiming at good blood test results and being in 'Normal' weight range for making sure I am as healthy I can be in my old age. I am not into excessive exercise, moderate, regular, is the goal.I have far too many other things to be interested in, to allow myself to obsess about how I look.

[@thelastword1414]

Thank you for speaking to how harmful these trends are, Abbey! Among the insanity and harmful content online, you are a beacon of compassion and common sense.

[@pipsli]

liv created a new account right after, she’s posting screenshots from this vid on it rn trying to make you look bad she’s such a mean spirited person

[@briannaolson4967]

I don’t get why everyone constantly has to try and over complicate a healthy diet. Just eat a lot of whole food, balanced meals that u like eat some chips eat some ice cream and carry on with ur life 😭😅

[@janesmith6292]

With ozempic and its knockoffs this is only going to get worse.

[@1234abcd-e5g]

Bingo! I was looking for this comment! Everyone is jumping on ozempic and talking about it non-stop/or simply showing how much weight they lost w/o mentioning it how the shot aided them- no wonder young people are feeling the pressure. Body acceptance isn’t in because it really never was (hence the ozempic craze)

[@jakobraahauge7299]

Wow! Y2K flasback! Glad there wasn't any TikTok when studied. Was horrible enough as such

[@thezenofchaos]

I don’t have the Tik Toxic app on my phone. It’s out of control. Thanks Abbey!

[@stephenphillips6245]

Men have fallen into the ED trap like crazy ...one physician's diet displayed on KZbin made me wonder how he isn't dead yet...LoL

[@Viky-l1r]

I can't watch the whole video because I am struggling in my recovery. Thank you for helping me realize what healthy eating can be. I'm trying to normalize it in my mind.

[@uunikorni]

If liv schmidt is the only example then this isnt very serious issue

[@emmacurtis2270]

Came here after feeling triggered by a wieiad vid of a skinny girl chugging various flavors of water...thank you yet again Abbey, for dispelling these diet myths!!! Your content has seriously changed my mindset around food and diet culture and I'm do appreciative for it!!

[@ava4830]

I was online shopping for jeans this morning. I was shocked to see the models they were using on H&M. Where a couple of years ago they looked normal sizes they certainly didn't today. Even the size jeans they gave the models to wear were obviously too large on them,. They were sagging left and right, there was no shape to the bodies. No buts, thighs or legs to shape the denim. I gave up.

[@sunnygirl5467]

Yep, I noticed that getting worse too. I feel like the models (males and esp females) on more mainstream fashion sites like H&M and Zara mostly look very unhealthyly skinny. Not very cool, I wish they would show different bodytypes, smaller people, people with wider hips and more muscular women that are actually a good example for young women, I mean it's just as important to show rather lighter women as heavier women, but definetely no need to show these heroin chic, super tall and long legged models, which do not represent any majority🥲

[@arringtonash]

I got off Tik Tok as theres too much to look at just on KZbin. Btw, your lip gloss looks great!

[@sensiblecrime7699]

I'm a recovering alcholic. Any disordered behavior is made worse by shame. If are eating compulsively try to connect to other people and love yourself.

[@jessicakathryn]

I saw other clips of Liv's videos. It appears she was just sharing her WIEIADs, and it all looked pretty normal and healthy to me. She wasn't undereating. She still had indulgences once in a while. I don't see the problem with her. Was it because she said she preferred being skinny, which is her natural body type? She wasn't promoting ED behavior at all. I'd say she was very mindful and intentional about her food choices.

[@HulaMask]

I agree . I find them okay . I like liv . I’ve seen Abby give much worse and accurate advice. That lacks integrity has intentionally shady or confusing links to research that aren’t well sided, and a lot of her information seems to be from the lens of her own eating disorder. I also feel like she promotes anyone who over eats because it leans into what she promotes. So frankly, she’s given a lot less reliable information than Liv Schmidt. I’m not saying Abby has not helped people heal their relationship with food. But I think she does it in a disingenuous way. I think she does intentionally misleading things. I don’t believe that Liv is doing that.

[@yallthought8444]

@@HulaMask Liv Schmitd has not ever given reliable information, is that a joke? LMAO Anyone who promotes tomatoes and lectic causing you to be fat should be disregarded immediately as unreliable. Judging by most of your comments on this video though you probably have a very similar mindset as her and I hope you see a different light to health soon.

[@harvardtoast]

I think what viewers forget is that these influencers are working this hard to just maintain their 'body goals' rather than what they have to do to reach it from a completely different starting point.

[@smeyer6960]

I just watched Liv Schmidt's most recent video, and thankfully yours popped up in my recommended immediately afterwards. The thing that was the most off-putting to me is that when she stepped back far enough the FaceTune wasn't able to tune, and I could see that she was a perfectly normal human being with an absolutely pleasant face that she should not feel the need to FaceTune. Real humans shouldn't want to look like a walking Uncanny Valley. My teenager knows that what they see online is often fake, dangerous, or both. Liv Schmidt's content is the latter. I still worry that we, as a culture, KNOW that it is fake and dangerous, but it still slowly shifts how we look at the world, and of course, I worry about my teen and others.

[@karlaa9307]

If people need encouragement to get moving and get fit (not skinny) then calling yourself fat and hearing oink oink in your head is not it. I propose they all go and volunteer a few hours at a nursing home. Specially an assisted living one. THEN you will have more than enough reasons to live healthily and build muscle. You want quality of life. I care for my elderly mom and seeing her having mobility issues is my one reason to get up in the morning and move. I want to be able to enjoy life if I get to be her age. I can’t control everything but I can do my part.

[@meghansullivan6812]

the rampany bodychecking fuckin kills me!!!!

[@zuburgirl]

I don't know why this happened, but after i watched this video my YT feed started having an abundance of videos on "how to lose weight", "easy diet tips" and such. It did not before. I have been watching you and a couple of other dieticians on here regualrly and this is new. I mean - i know how it happened, it is just messed up that i watch a video about unrealistic skinny culture and then the internet pushes it onto me...This just goes to show you how messed up the algorithm is.

[@AJ-oy5iv]

I've seen Liv's KZbin content and I feel like she comes across poorly but the actual tips she gives are not that bad. I was expecting something like HRH collection but it wasn't. IMO she focuses on portion sizes, walking, finding activities not related to food. She seems healthy skinny, not emaciated. If its bad to strive for this body type and be honest about it is it wrong to strive for slim-thick or curvy? Not trying to be confrontational, I genuinely don't understand. Am I disordered or something???

[@HulaMask]

Omg HRH is so unhinged 😂. But yeah, I was expecting a combination of her and Eugene Cooney and when I looked at her page, I was like this is just a normal skinny girl in New York City, who doesn’t finish all her risotto because risotto at a fine dining restaurant is 97% butter.😂

[@heyitsgabs21]

ive been getting a lot more content on my fyp recently about excerise and weightloss, and i want to see some of that kind of content, but the second i here them say or do anything that heads into ED territory i scroll past it immeditately, even when its just something as simple as "heres how i lost 2kg in a week". anything thats not a healthy and sustatinable lifestyle change i dont need to be entertaining.

[@Gty813]

I’m not saying none of this is problematic but Part of this is so funny to me because some of these women are not promoting Ed’s and I said SOME literally just eat healthy and enjoy being skinny which isn’t inherently disordered it’s ok to prefer yourself in a skinny body as long as it’s not too far and it’s ok to eat mindfully just because you’re not binge eating on processed foods every single day doesn’t mean that you have an ED and I say this as someone who struggled with anorexia and when people claim that wanting to eat healthy and being skinny is an eating disorder and that leads more to the stereotype that eating disorders are purely based on wanting to be skinny when a true ED is a mental health disorder. The liv Schmidt thing really pissing me off bcs she literally eats enough calories to sustain her body that’s all some people need if you added up the calories in her WIEIAD she’s obviously not “restricting “ she’s just thin ,if she doesn’t want to binge McDonald’s she doesn’t have to she satisfies her hunger in her way, can we stop assuming all women that are thin and healthy have Ed’s bcs that’s just so damaging to ppl with actual Ed’s it’s why it’s so hard to get treatment

[@Gty813]

if it is ok to have a larger body which I do believe is perfectly fine if that’s what you want then it should be equally acceptable to want a thin body.

[@smoog4795]

The only thing I can think of why "thin" is back in, like back in the 90s, is possible bc food is so much more expensive now as well as basic, every day, human needs to survive that there is a lot more thin people due to this problem...however with the influencers, I do feel bad about the issues they deal with (we all deal with different problems). I wish social media would reign back, but I don't see it as everything seems to be moving forward to more and more internet/electronic/technology/we're entering the matrix here people...and so forth. So I can only feel like this will be the tip of the iceberg of problems :( .

[@cccookies95]

This is shocking! I don’t have social media so I had no idea. Really sad we’re headed in this direction again :(

[@sarahholson1044]

And yet E.C. is still on with no issue 🙄

[@skoopman2675]

Really good content Abbey and also love the add about dog food!

[@mr.zardoz3344]

Bot

[@mendrugoperez4033]

heyyy could you maybe talk about how it is only body positivity until someone is skinny???

[@elleshak621]

“ there’s no way farmyard noises can motivate” LOL what’s it come to that “farmyard noises” are a weight loss tactic 😂 😭

[@Youraveragefoodiee]

I grew up in a family that EVERYONE was dieting, doing bullshit diets like only powder soups, or eating only salad leaves for dinner and that had a huge impact on me and the way i perceived eating for the next 30 years of my life. These are insanely unhealthy habbits to be promoting online to impressionable young people or older people that are struggling with EDs. We are putting our health on the line just to have visible abs or skinny legs. Being skinny and not eating foods like tomatoes, potatoes, or carbs is by no means healthy, and can permanetly create serious health issues. We really need to wake up as a society and stop idolizing every idiot that is given a platform online.

[@lifeyogafunfoodandfitness]

thanks for talking abt liv my ed goes insane every time I watch her content, she made a new account by the way, on TikTok, and posts super triggering KZbin and instagram content. and she says in response, people are just jealous, as being skinny makes her better then most of America's population, but she doesnt get its not due to her weight its what she says and promotes :(

[@Lori_L]

I ask this because I care... why are you watching her videos? Could you challenge yourself to block the account?

[@lifeyogafunfoodandfitness]

@@Lori_L this sounds rlly dumb but I cant, cos ik she is there- I favourite her videos and everything. and it doesnt help that everyone in her comments says her advice is amazing and it motivates them. so I almost try do the same..sorry if that doesnt make sense

[@Lori_L]

@lifeyogafunfoodandfitness I know just as many people (or more) who would say the opposite. So you need to decide which voice you will listen to. I say this as one who nearly died from ED several times and is now recovered. I would recommend deleting all of her videos and blocking her account (and any others like hers) I know it's tough but it will give you a much longer and happier life

[@lifeyogafunfoodandfitness]

@@Lori_L yeah trust me ive been in that position too, and been admitted several times, but it's so hard, I also genuinely enjoy watching it? like its a bit weird. lol, also I have a very limited food intake as I am autistic, also struggling with arfid, so these accounts can make me feel like well "even liv Schmidt" eats a greater variety then you

[@HulaMask]

@@Lori_L she’s watching her videos because she’s building her for you page with triggering things. And then instead of taking responsibility, she wants to blame someone else because then that makes it feel like it’s not so bad.

[@catssewingg]

What I hate about all the fitness influencers the most is that it’s just because they’re rich that they can have their life so organized and planned out and able to stick with exercising and eating healthy

[@cidneymcmahon7226]

Hi Abbey, i love you so much! I would love to hear your take on the recent Victoria secret show. I know you have had some really good input and perspective in the past and would want to know your take on the show most recently.

[@JasonMemeoa]

Hi Abbey. Unrelated to this video, could you make content around berberine/inositol supplements for women with pcos and whether they are safe/helpful?

[@mariapaulavizcaino6784]

Hey abbey! I’m hoping you could help me. Everyone always says how amazing protein is, and it’s true, it’s amazing for a hunger crushing combo and a hundred other reasons. I’ve been eating high protein for about two years now, but i feel like reaching my protein goal it’s just sometimes too taxing on my brain power and I plan my meals around that leading me to worry and think about food all day. Sometimes I think I should just eat intuitively but I worry that all the downsides of not eating enough protein will hit me and my progress in the gym will be affected. I know that every body is different but I would love your advice and would like to know, what is your personal approach to protein and do you take account of how many grams you eat in a day? Show less

[@Lori_L]

If she isn't able to answer you, have you thought of seeing an RD or nutritionist?

[@claudiaayala4055]

Bravo 👏 🙌

[@melissapetzer3560]

Me thinking i am honouring my body by joining a running club as a challenge and then realising that cardio is having a moment right now 👀👀👀👀👀👀

[@winterdreams3374]

With the Tik Tok craze running rampant, I figured it was only a matter of time before this came back. Another reason why I DESPISE Tik Tok.

[@Deea88]

13 year olds have no bussiness being on tic toc. Even older teens. I would love for social media platforms to take some accountability, but as a parent, it is my responsibility to keep my child safe. It is hard, but it is doable. It is my job I signed up for when I decided to get pregnant. I hope our legislation will catch up with what is going on online, to make it easier for the parents and safer for all children, but in the meanwhile, I remember my children are my responsibility. We would never let a todler wander off to streets by themselves, yet when we give smart phones to 10 year olds, few think there is something wrong with it.

[@iamgoddess9790]

I would love you do a view on Hannah weight loss on Ozempic from love is blind. And can we talk about skinny revenge?

[@simeransingh327]

Ok the pig walk of shame video is very funny

[@Jdkicked]

We also need to acknowledge that their videos just blatantly dont do as well if they dont body check in it. If this is their job (or aspiring job) they almost are forced to publicly body check on a near daily basis

[@erinsloan2825]

Literally, one time, just for funzies, I counted how many weight loss product ads I got in a span of just 3 minutes. 11 for Ozempic or ozempic like products, 3 weight loss pills, 4 for some work out regimine thats going to help me lose weight. Frankly it just pissed me off. 3 minutes. Thats all it took. I dont even remember interacting with anything weightloss related.

[@CurrentBeatle]

Why are you censoring "skinny"

[@Tamialuvsu01]

It’s funny to watch chipotle and crumbl mukbangs but it’s so bad to post skinny content…. Eh ok

[@lifeyogafunfoodandfitness]

my foryoupage is so bad, I see under 1000 cal wieiads, the next, people talking about how they want to be skinny and will do anything, its so triggering, ik its partly my fault but still

[@kateayling987]

How is liv an ED example? She eats whatever she wants in moderation while focusing on protein, all things Abbey also does. Liv also tries to move her body, like Abbey

[@See_The_Stars]

She literally says tomatoes are bad.

[@HulaMask]

@@See_The_Stars Liv has said a couple of things that I find questionable. I believe when she was talking about the tomato she was talking about nightshade allergies. But Liv also doesn’t avoid tomatoes so you have to take some of the things she’s saying as what they are just research she’s looked into. But Abby has definitely made a lot of videos that are straight up bullying and she intentionally misleads people with faulty research. I can literally give you so many examples of it. It’s not funny. Abby has said a lot more incorrect things than Liv has and Abby has done it most likely for profit. And she does it to make Clickbait that intentionally makes her videos go more viral. She’s working the algorithm the same way just pearly things did. I’m not saying that Abby hasn’t said some useful things. And forgive me for spelling her name wrong because I am using voice to text. But at the end of the day, I don’t think she really has the right to be calling her out, considering all of her shady unethical practices, even though she is a registered medical professional .

[@BigCryptidEnergy]

“I lost 5 pounds in one week” 5-10x the recommended healthy weight loss per week. That was the first clip from her in this video. For a majority of people, if they’re losing that much in a week especially at her size, they are most certainly not eating in moderation, or if they truly are, there’s a medical concern there because they shouldn’t be.

[@HulaMask]

Losing 5 pounds in a week isn’t as extreme as it sounds when you actually understand how the body works. When we lose 5 pounds in a short amount of time, it’s likely not solid fat. You can lose 2 pounds safely that is an aggressive amount of weight to lose per week. Especially after an extended amount of time. However, you have to factor in that. A lot of that 5 pounds was likely water weight. However, water weight is still visible weight. So when she makes a video saying she lost 5 pounds in a week, that’s no different than a lot of people making videos with similar titles. And perhaps they just don’t quite understand that part of that is waterweight. Or perhaps they do. Because again waterweight is visible weight for most people. So that 5 pounds even if it’s 2 pounds of actual fat 1 pound of undigested fecal matter and another pound of water weight it’s still showing up on the scale. So no, it’s not necessarily unhealthy. And if you actually understood how the body works you would know that. But you don’t have that type of education like I do. So I’m able to look at it objectively. I’ve taken the time to research things I’ve seen in fitness videos beyond what I just watch which increases my actual knowledge. So when I see people like you coming in ready to debate, I’ve already understood why you think you’re right. And I’m more than prepared to tell you why you were wrong and to back it up with actual scientific peer reviewed and scholarly research. I do not think that you are able to do the same thing.

[@BigCryptidEnergy]

@ dude, 2 pounds is still not healthy for a majority of people. Especially at her size. If you were ACTUALLY educated like you claim to be you’d still find that concerning. That alone is a laaarge caloric deficit, with lots of potential for missing important nutrients especially at her size. Instead you’re trying to put me down for pointing out 5 pounds a week is incredibly unhealthy. Also, I am fully aware 5 pounds doesn’t necessarily mean all fat, but this is old news to a lot of people. Most people are now very aware that claims of ___ pounds per week is usually not fully fat. Do you think that makes what shes doing good? Do you think the people who understand this are the same group most heavily influenced by her? Are you cool with somebody who’s still a) aggressively losing weight especially at her size and b) willing to spread misinformation to people younger and more unaware than her, actively becoming a “fitness/health” influencer. Because if you are, you are not looking at things objectively like you claim. Because objectively, this isn’t health. What you are doing however, taking the opportunity to act like you’re smarter than somebody with absolutely zero context on what their educational background, or experience on the topic actually is. For the record, I have much more of that education than you think, since you assumed based on one singular comment I made pointing out how unhealthy what she said is that I couldn’t possibly be even close to your level of big brain understanding. By the way if you’re actually well researched on this topic you should try polite education instead of assuming, putting people down for “knowing less” (which i put in quotation because that is only your perception of the situation, not necessarily the truth) and then trying to make yourself feel big and smart. Maybe the reason you feel like people are always coming in ready to debate you instead of listen is because you respond to them like that. You don’t come off educated and well meaning, you come off self important and pretentious. Nobody likes that. And I’m willing to bet you don’t either.

[@extrememinimalism]

It never went away.

[@wdvashee419]

I’d love to hear your thoughts on Of Herbs and Altars, who was part of the OG pro-ana scene and has videos about pro-ana.

[@kitty123-o6o]

this is so triggering 💀💀💀💀 im glad i don't have tiktok

[@BookiesInk]

When you’re dieting and you’re confronted with an evil self-hating voice…seriously question your dieting because Anorexia comes with an evil self-loathing voice.

[@deborahhoward5471]

It’s tack, not tact.

[@nicolec4586]

It makes me so sad that this stuff is coming back. Like so many others I struggled with bulimia/binge eating for over 10 years and "pro-ana" and "thinspo" online was a huuuuge driver for me. And this was back in myspace days when social media didn't travel in your pocket everywhere you went. I thought this next generation of children was at least safe from the toxic skinny standards. I can't imagine the amount of pressure they face.

[@jellybot1944]

It’s so hard for me to ever feel healthy confident and happy without being skinny. I’m healthy right now but I hate my body because the fat I have ;( I’m working on it. 4:35

[@mazzystarr7078]

I can't believe I thought for a moment in like 2015 we could be cool about all different types of bodies. Boy is my face red.

[@camilledion-dundas4116]

I was hospitalized for anorexia as a young teen, 17 years ago (yikes! That makes me feel old). The hospital knew to keep us ED patients in small groups, and to have someone watch us to make sure we didn’t talk about weight, weights loss, diet tips, etc. Because they knew the danger of the echo chamber and how “competitive” ED patients are when it comes to weight loss. I still struggle with my ED sometimes, but I can’t imagine how much harder recovery would have been in the age of TikTok.

[@Lori_L]

Which program/ hospital did you go to? That's great that they had that approach

[@liberallioness4335]

I feel the same way being a binge eater seeing all the body positivity stuff that gets a free pass on most social media platforms...makes it so much harder to want to be healthy at a healthy weight....💯

[@lornam4596]

2013 all over again. Fashion always flips from one extreme to another.

[@Vvvxxloxe]

This is so hilarious coz i am 5.5 weight 42 kg..am really small and i swear just last month i was getting skinny shamed now girls are asking for my diet..wow the shift was fast

[@the_lily_rose]

Wtf 😶

[@jamesnylan]

My cousin was also skinny shamed, and she is an AN survivor. I hope you're OK.

[@111nitya]

People are intentionally following someone who calls them a "fat Pig"?? By choice?

[@macytorro]

The focus on how peoples bodies look (positive or negative) has been CRAZY lately. For example when we’re making videos on what Olympic athletes look like, as opposed to their performance in their sport… it’s getting weird 😂

[@rochellerochelle01]

I like being a healthy weight and I’m grateful that I have developed healthy eating habits that include eating all meals and eating dessert. I feel sorry for the women and girls who feel like starving yourself is a sustainable lifestyle.

[@meghansullivan6812]

body neutrality!!!!!!! is the way!!!!!!!

[@duallove6909]

But, banning her yet keeping all those glutinous mukbangers up, eating themselves to death and making unhealthy foods trending isn’t right either!. If they ban ultra skinny under eaters, then they should ban obese over eaters too.

[@tiffanyx8577]

That social commentary on body checking NEEDS to be a reel

[@franciscoluna86]

We should also band people who promote unhealthy eating from the other side.

[@jessicadumm4391]

Liv is def on you tube as well!

[@elizabethmcnamara6548]

Yeah we should be goldie locks. Not too fat and not too thin. Just right.

[@ana38799]

I knew we were going downhill when my whole fyp started being girls saying they want to be Snejana Onopka skinny

[@AbbeysKitchen]

noooo

[@LiamN407]

Did you see Ariana on SNL? And the pictures she posted online? I was so triggered and truly really heart broken. ED skinny culture is back and stronger than ever

[@zom6ie]

commenting on someones body is fatphobic

[@LiamN407]

@@zom6ie ur fatphobic

[@LiamN407]

@ ur fatphobic

[@Woketilyerbroke]

Yer woke probably a Taylor Swift lover

[@NewtoNailswithNicole]

Liv is now here on KZbin so ….

[@nathalieelsen7221]

Really...?😢

[@mamo7278]

I love that these women are taking care of their bodies through fitness and healthy food. I wish ppl in the US valued their health. If this content is “triggering” you can block the user but you can’t hide from everything that makes you uncomfy. It’s impossible for the world to conform around one person’s triggers. You have to learn how to process what you encounter and move on. Therapy is great for that.

[@sarak4219]

these videos aren't promoting good health though, they're promoting being skinny which is VERY different. It's not about these videos being "trigging", it's about the fact that these videos can lead people (especially younger people) to do dangerous things just to be skinny.

[@Lori_L]

​@@sarak4219well said

[@HulaMask]

@@sarak4219 what’s wrong with being skinny and eating in proportion to your needs? Liv literally eats at restaurants all the time and she consumes a shit ton of protein.

[@michelerich1590]

delete the apps

[@katelynmccorkle9902]

l love you Abbey! Stay sharp!

[@AbbeysKitchen]

thank you, I will!!

[@Woketilyerbroke]

Too bad kiddies life’s hard get a helmet ⛑️

[@yaneznayoui1597]

I love how you don't acknowledge the role you've played in this by never acknowledging outright obesity is harmful, that being obese is unhealthy, coddling overweight people, and almost demonizing anyone that wants to lose weight, a reactionary movement was inevitable, not seeing how you've played a part in that is fascinating. People warned you this was going to happen.

[@yaneznayoui1597]

@@Lizard_Queen-ld5uj For profit of course, then weight loss is okay.

[@jamesnylan]

I have a female family member who almost lost her life to AN; and the wasting syn that went along with it. I look at pics of her from 2016, and now, and she looks like a completely different, healthier person. She also realized upon looking back at the old pics, that her face looked hollow, and older to her. She says she would much rather be normal sized, than underweight, for the rest of her life. I thank God every day that she made it through it, and learned just how bad it was for her to severely restrict and over-exercise.