Air Nations in War Thunder EXPLAINED: Part 1 - USA & Germany | War Thunder Plane Countries Guide

[@skDoger]

The long-awaited air nation guide is here! This time, instead of just static images, there's actual footage of the planes that are being talked about. Sorry this took so long, I've been busy with a bunch of IRL stuff. Also, I'm doing some experimenting with embedded subtitles, let me know what you think. There's a couple of minor mistakes in them, my apologies for that. ── CORRECTIONS (read before leaving a comment) ── -The F-4E is a much better turnfighter if it has the Agile Eagle upgrade, forgot to mention that -With the Sky Guardians update America does have an 11.0 premium, namely the F-4S Phantom II -The Mig-19 can retain energy pretty well actually, the Mig-21 is the one that bleeds energy fast

[@radosaworman7628]

bruh. f-22 and f-35 will not come in near future. look at abrams variants. they come into the game as they go out of service. Next in line of inplementation are: F-15A, early F-18 variants, Later F-14A agile falcon f-16's, F-15's C/D and E but they will not come before US declasifies files on them- and they will not do that before major US allies get rid of them. Please clarifiy that this video is for Ground players as that's clearly your focus.

[@lithuanianbrother94]

very nice video thank you! :) plus i love the new intros you added keep up with the good work!

[@braedenh4687]

I definitely appreciate the subtitles

[@n1co2017]

another correction the banche is one of the most powerful fighters in the game at 7.3 it destroys almost everything with the added bonus of being one of the rare early jets with a low repair cost. and the av-8’s ammo count is the opposite of what you said it has one of the lowest ammo counts for jets in the entire game.

[@semihegeakdogan4964]

You forget me 262c series they have liquid rocket engines as boosters

[@reina4582]

It's weird how the heavy fighter line ends up having lighter aircraft later down the line while the fighter line gets heavier

[@shikikanaz4624]

gaijin

[@TheCommissarIsDead]

@@shikikanaz4624 snail always has a hand in things 😂

[@darracqboy]

Russian Snails be like

[@urabraskthedeplorable725]

It's less of a heavy fighter line and more of a Lockheed line, since the only planes in that line Lockheed didn't make are the F-82 and F-5.

[@johns3544]

Lol its messed up in all lines acauly. Like Germen patrol boats and bombers. I mean almost all Germen patrol boats are 1.0s and 1.7s show me any thing that can take on a Gunboat other then the AA or Gun bardge. And no the KV dont count no more....

[@adamrousek2200]

At 28:43 there's a bit of mistake. The MiG-21 bleeds all of its energy when turning that's correct but the MiG-19 has some of the best energy retention in the whole tier and handles well at low speeds. That being said, good video!

[@skDoger]

True true

[@Fuzeha]

Aah when he said that it made me cringe, thanks for the comment

[@kamalal-hamid4634]

@@skDogerwe still love the videos though btw💯🔥😁

[@matteoromano9877]

​@@skDoger¹¹1

[@kailaine3974]

Note on the US tree: due to how popular it is, on US servers at least, you have a far higher chance of ending up on a pretty incompetent team. Just be aware that your win/loss ratio will be kinda sad

[@J7Handle]

Fair warning: every new patch with US planes, US top tier teams suddenly get really good as all the experienced players come back to grind.

[@blank-yw4kj]

Watching P-51s and Kingcobras try to dogfight spitfires is a painful experience

[@jacknickolstine3355]

Yeah trust me I hate ending a match being spawn camped due to being the only one with aircraft left.. Usually I get in a bomber and fly upside down trying to tell the enemies I'm alone and just wanna fly around. Don't work most are blood thirsty and don't wanna kill a.i and farm.

[@b_lovedsamurai]

I think what turns some people off of the US tech tree is that they don't take the time to set themselves up properly, then get frustrated because they don't climb, go for the first plane they see, then get killed in a dogfight against more maneuverable planes. Granted you won't exactly be the highest plane in the match, but you need to sideclimb and gain altitude in order to perform well in those planes.

[@fulturk4306]

I was playing with a Stuart the other day and killed more then 10 targets, capped multiple points, and we still lost.

[@Juan-qn1yf]

The only thing I dislike about this is that there aren't any more episodes (yet). Great work man, keep it up

[@TaronTT]

I can't wrap my head around how you guys forgot to mention the Schräge Musik cannons! They're one of the most unique features found on German WW2 planes... :( Also, the MiG-19 really doesn't suck at retaining energy, it is probably one of the best turnfighters for it's BR!

[@skDoger]

Schräge Musik is too... schräge to explain hehe

[@MaticTheProto]

@@skDoger *schräg

[@joeburke6577]

Ya but it’s basically useless in pvp combat

[@Depressedwhale14]

It is the most satisfying to take down a bomber with Schräge Musik cannons

[@bumblethunder]

@@joeburke6577 the MIG 19 or the cannons

[@ctomz.]

Can't say I agree with skipping the F8s. In my opinion by far the best 10.3 in the game. You are supersonic, best manourvreability at the tier (as long as you are sub 0.85 mach), great guns, countermeasures, and okay missiles. I would say its only downsides are the mediocre missiles and compression at higher speeds but it makes you use your guns more which I personally think is a more interesting playstyle. Great video overall and will certainly be useful for newer players.

[@skDoger]

Fair enough, to each their own

[@stormjet814]

I’d skip the f8u, but defs not the f8e

[@bipbap5079]

Best maneuverability except the Ariete and some top tiers

[@IanNuke]

True, only complaint being the wings that do not like being attached while in any turn

[@cola-warthunder]

The F8U is definitely to be skipped, the second you have to turn your wings disappear. Has to be at least 60% of my deaths in it.

[@MDzmitry]

Thanks for the series, concerning both Ground and Air. It can serve both as a great aid to newcomers and a point of interest for more experienced players willing to change or expend their playstyle.

[@newsulc6218]

This video gives me motivation to go play all the aircraft i unlocked and do not just grind. I sometimes forget how diverse the trees are and forget the good memories with all the planes 👍

[@fox_rblx9391]

Is the grind fun for USA? I decided to come back to war thunder

[@user-ju1pp2he4k]

@@fox_rblx9391yeah I just got 9.3 and I’m having fun

[@fox_rblx9391]

@@user-ju1pp2he4k Im just afraid of playing jets since there are so many no life's out there and since I'm a console peasant.

[@user-ju1pp2he4k]

@@fox_rblx9391 I also play console

[@donatomandetta6095]

I was just searching the internet to understand what Nation suits me better and I was going crazy! I was like "yo why didn't this video show up before?" Then I realized it's been 15 mins ahahah

[@windedviper2008]

Thank you!!! Been playing the US tree and have watched soo many reviews on each plane and this is short and simple. Love it

[@braedenh4687]

For the Soviet line, make sure to mention the devastating 23mms on the IL-2 (1942), I had a game where I got 8 kills, including three back to back f4u kills. If you know how to aim them, there’s really nothing that compares to the 23mms at that br. Also to keep in mind about that 8 kill game, it was 12 player teams and I also suck at air rb when I’m playing solo

[@braedenh4687]

Another thing to note at the lower tiers, the 7.62mm shkas can not be understated. 7200 combined rpm is nothing to scoff at when you’re going up against an i-16

[@skDoger]

For sure

[@stillwater3929]

f8u-2 is very underrated, has very good turning that outclasses almost everyone in its BR. Its Aim-9D's are very good for boom and zooming, and its speed is pretty okay in my oppinion. Underrated to say the least.

[@biovorebarrage6860]

Yeah I don’t really get why he said to skip the F8’s, they are crazy good, with the only thing holding them back being a lack of Rae on the E.

[@josephyoung4483]

Real! F8U-2 is one of my favorite planes at that tier. The 9D's have stupid range and like you said it has great turning. My only complaint is it can rip while doing high speed turns. Other than that its a great plane.

[@michaellemasters7173]

The German Phantom is actually quite good. I believe it has some of the best maneuverability of all of the Phantoms so far.

[@hellishchild6831]

I like your warthunder videos. You have the perfect voice for tutorials and reviews. Not too intense that it's painful to listen to, but not to monotone that you bore me. Keep it up!

[@skDoger]

Thank you!

[@Pyreax865]

The best thing about this video is how simple it is, and you manage to make this game seem very fun to new players!

[@zeller_05]

I'm a simple man, I see an skDoger video, i click

[@kubusgamer]

Same

[@hegartfamily543]

0:06 DONT YOU EVEN DARE TRY AND SCAM ME!

[@davidecarucci1073]

Fact: the f4u can reach 800km/h in a dive and the elevators wont lock up (unless they changed it), so you dont have to worry too much about crashing into the ground

[@rocketcello5354]

looking forward to the other lines! if you're mentioning the swordfish, mention that it can be a beast with its v. low repair cost, torpedoes, 6x 250lb bombs, and the maneuverability of a biplane. but, it gets shredded with the slightest idea of a bullet, and is slow as all hell. but i've had the left upper wing and the right elevon missing, with a fuel leak, and was able to limp back to base. it's a pretty good variation of playing at low tier.

[@ReviveHF]

1st gen jets have better energy retention than the 2nd and 3rd gen jets but lack acceleration, however there is some exception. Some 2nd and 3rd gen jets like MIG-17 and F-5 are designed as dedicated air superiority fighter, even F105 and A4 Skyhawk can be used for dogfight when they've done their CAS duties. In my experience, to counter the 1st gen jets with most 2nd gen and 3rd gen jets is to use boom and zoom tactics, don't waste too much energy in turning fights, same rule can be applied to top tier when using Mirage 2000 against MIG-29, F-5E, F-14 and F-16.

[@alpacaofthemountain8760]

Starting the American tree, having fun with the P-51D-c Great video!

[@anghuy4297]

yk it's gonna be a good day when skDoger posted

[@bubblesofthecoast6393]

4:24 I feel it should be mentioned that the D-5 Mustang is the most difficult of the Mustangs to play, since it’s engine is poor for its br. Basically, you don’t have the climb nor accel thst the other P-51’s got to cover for mistakes a bit, so you gotta be extremely careful when taking it out

[@bradenhagen7977]

And the terrible rudder.

[@bubblesofthecoast6393]

@@bradenhagen7977 The rudder is pretty atrocious, but I can look past it

[@dulguunjargal1199]

SBD-3 is a Amazing Interceptor or Boom and Zoomer since it's Gun Pods give the plane 6 Total .50 Cals spread out along the entirety of the aircraft which allows you to Shred absolutely everything in it's tier and local BR

[@mikemckinnon9826]

P= Pursuit rather than CAS. The P-51 was a fairly decent dogfighter. You just have to remember to reduce throttle to turn tighter. The F-4 Phantom II has better acceleration with the Rolls Royce engine, fantastic maneuverability regardless of whether it has the Allison or Rolls Royce engine, the F-14 also has excellent maneuverability as does the A-4 Skyhawk

[@dertyp2913]

I personally love the m262 A-1a/U-1 in ground battles with armour piercing

[@azander1958]

Planning to finally play this game after the mobile version just got out recently but oh boy I think I have a lot of things to learn and memorize And this video helps me a lot thanks man

[@aaronho1914]

Love ya content! Was looking around to see if I could find info about what nation to play to start my air grind and then discovered you posted this video like 30 minutes ago xD

[@ryanstover6800]

I love it when a AV-8 tries to moon climb early game against my MiG 21…. My R-3R’s love saying hi to them.

[@Vengeance4308]

The a10 is very capable in dogfights extremely good turning you can out turn every plane in the game and gets 4 aim9Ls and lots of countermeasures I’ve got 2 aces in it so it’s a very good plane at dogfighting at its tier

[@DALONEWOLF108]

I’m glad when I first started playing the US tech tree I evenly researched all the planes down to the f16 very soon

[@zaniwoob]

For Arcade: Russia and Japan. Spitfires have wing mounted guns and weak wings. US are not the best for arcade furballs but made for boom and zoom. The best overall low tier arcade plane is probably the japanese Ki-44 at 2.7 br. Get the premium if you can (not the one with the 40mm canon). Yaks and the La series are also very good. Note learning to aim -> take the yak. bit of a curve but once you get it all trees will be cookie. Learning to furball: Ki 44 or yak or the messer. learning to fly defensive : zero. Boom and zoom : messerschmidt, p 51, fw 190, corsair. ( this tactic wont get you high kill rates in Arcade) Another tip for arcade : learn to touch and go on high speeds. Useful for capping airfields. Another tip : make your line up as big as possible and buy back ups with war bonds. do not land and repair but rather eject and respawn

[@kxme6243]

Saying ive been waiting for this is a massive understatement

[@PcGamerKenpachi]

Love your format for these man, I constantly keep coming back to reference your advice when I'm looking for new CAS or air RB options

[@saulalejandro7832]

I've beem waiting this videos for ober two years

[@rudatkatzn9171]

I absolutely Love the 109 and Strike Fighter Lines. The Bf 109s are my Favorite Planes after the 262s (in AB) and the 410s have worked very Well for me aswell. I think it was RB when a P-51 approached me from behind, my Secondaries Made quick Work of them

[@starwars1357]

I dont like 109 so much at about 6.0 br because of the matchmaking with premium bombers.

[@alexhohl8530]

P51s are generally bad at dogfighting but the H model is an extreme exception. It has a wild turn rate

[@tacogamer8740]

Man I’ve been playing American air tech tree for a good 2-3 years (off and on) and I’m still in tier two I think I just unlocked the b-25 like a month ago

[@dytzin2040]

i cant even imagine how much effort has gone into this,ill sub and like

[@skDoger]

Thank you!

[@Vextonomy]

YOUR BACK LETS GOO

[@THEDAVILAK1]

Great video! I would like to suggest you try out the Do217 E at 4.7. As it gets 4 TONS of bombs (4x1000kg) and is fairly fast and manoeuvrable. Plus it has some decent turrets aswell as a nose mounted 20mm in case you find the odd enemy Bomber!

[@bradenhagen7977]

I feel like the 13mms are just there to make you feel good lol. Great plane though. Absolute menace in ground RB.

[@zetho807]

a bit late but finally i need this series, because i have zero knowledge of aircraft which is the best aircraft to grind, i looking for it for all the tech tree

[@Vividreams0]

Thank you for this been looking for guides like this but they were so old

[@Aeon-Lynx]

Great video :) Keep up the good work :)

[@SMALLCROWN]

Tank went to the back rooms 16:06

[@jthablaidd]

The fw190 d series are my favorite planes to fly. They feel like a mustang but on steroids

[@SilverScarletSpider]

i’m so desperate for parts 3 and 4 of this video. tell us about japan, italy, uk, china, and swedish aircraft

[@skDoger]

Stay tuned!

[@matchesburn]

11:37 [Using a Maverick on a Sherman tank] ...Kinda the epitome of "overkill" there...

[@skDoger]

No such thing as overkill in the American tech tree 🦅 🇺🇸

[@PmagazineChan]

Thank you! I finally know what a plane is!

[@1m3agle]

The f84s are decent just because of their speed. They’re like an f104 in that aspect. Keep them in a straight line and nothing at your be can touch you. Uptiers hurt though

[@kamalal-hamid4634]

Btw, the p51h although being a p51 turns well enough to dogfight a lot of enemies (if you know what you’re doing). You can actually do a lot more with a lot of these planes if you learn about how to fly them (and planes in general) -like the “later” p47s (past the d25 model) are actually good at energy fighting (more so boom n zooming actually), for example (I like to use it more for that than the p51d30) And another example, the AM-1 (attacker) turns very well, though it doesn’t maintain energy the best, it does stall at a low speed thanks to its flaps. And it’s cannons are pretty good. Basically, learning and gaining experience will get you further in the game than simply going strictly by the “on paper” info💯😁👍. Good luck, and have fun!

[@kamalal-hamid4634]

another example being the Canberra B57B (and a, but the A had no guns lol) - These Jet Bombers, although being jets, can out turn a lot of those it faces, though it too bleeds speed a little *too* handily.

[@skDoger]

@@kamalal-hamid4634 Very true

[@whatisalifeihavenone4708]

Can't wait for the British tree "Yea it's kinda mid, but it has the Spitfire which is amazing"

[@friendlysnoworb6091]

the british tree is definitely for use in props and early jets, meteors are quite nice, spitfires are great, swift f.7 is a meme, but that's about it.

[@roketsnail34]

4:45 the F8F is SUPER agile. i can outturn japanese props with it and it's very op even against jets i used properly ( even dogfighting )

[@genraldmoney8171]

Theres no way he just told people to skip the F8U

[@Combat-coder]

I'm a a war thunder youtuber and I followed your advice and picked USA and now I'm good at the game compared to when I picked the British Thanks😃

[@skDoger]

Glad to hear it :)

[@chuck-echeese6706]

This man is a godsend. We need to protect him.

[@ShapeWortho]

11:44. I really hope that’s a custom match because… Sherman’s in the same match as an A-10 makes me empathetic to the people piloting the tanks.

[@skDoger]

Yeah it was a custom battle lol, the game wouldn't let me spawn AI top-tier tanks for some reason

[@noahsawesomevids422]

Awesome 😎 I’ve played American 3 years it’s really easy learning it especially with some low tier planes with a 50cal and I’ve played most a b17 bombers I’ve survived getting my tail rudder half of a tail flap and other stuff and landed

[@b_lovedsamurai]

They're good if flown correctly, too many times I see players fly too low only to have German, Soviet and Japanese planes whip 'em in dogfights and because they're low they don't have the altitude to get away and they don't have the maneuverability to turn fight. Positioning (and good aim) is key to success in those planes. The fight only becomes tougher the longer it drags out.

[@catlover1153]

This video is so good you got another sub keep up the great content

[@GaysukeGaymura]

I'm getting somewhat impatient on the next vid (don't rush tho, take your time). Hoping it'll come soon! And thanks for this vid! Really helped me.

[@nivocz769]

I like how i acidentaly took the perfect planes for beginers when i started. Started with america and at about 3 tier i jumped on the german train(no not THAT train) wirh bf109

[@jthablaidd]

I love how for both ground and air America his reviews for every vehicle is “I’ll be honest, it’s not that great”😂

[@MrBonzi-ez6ho]

Golden eagles at a free price? Satisfactory!

[@Arcticcold]

The most fun I have had is with the f104s and a10 the most enjoyable I have played so far

[@BlackThanator]

I mostly agree with your take on the Me 262's, tho I'd say the Heimatschützer II is the exception, as the poor acceleration can be offset by the rocket boosters. And with some clever use, the 2 minutes of burn time can last you quite a while and give you that extra thrust when you need it.

[@skDoger]

True, I kinda glossed over that one

[@AmelpsXett]

F-84 does have good engine and gun placement though. Its very good for stall combat if it comes to that

[@UchihaItachi-rd5cd]

The very important thing to remember is that in most cases, in era 4 half of l team will be made of ju288, so goodluck playing fighters.

[@Fizzwidjet70]

You forgot to explain that Me-262 (strike variant, the "Pulkzerstörer") has only 32 ammos with its 50mm gun x)

[@emergency_broadcast_system]

the b17 still breaks its wings in a turn and no mention of the b26 when its arguable the best bomber in rank 3, plus you called the f6f a naval bomber and then didnt mention the helldiver. also no mention of the massive 2500kg bomb and the radio guided bombs on the he111 or the fact that half the germany tree is bf109s and fw190s but was still highly recomended for grinding

[@wongarnold2879]

Air RB for US at tier 3-4 is complete hell to play. All planes lack climb, turn rate and the teams are horrendous.

[@thegoldenmask4765]

Wake up baby new skDoger video just dropped

[@8-bithades305]

I haven’t even watched past rank 5 us in this video and i’ve already noticed you being correct about a vehicle is the exception

[@skDoger]

Could you explain some of my mistakes? I'd like to avoid them in future episodes if possible

[@8-bithades305]

@@skDoger I may have been rough here as i rewatch, but i noticed you being mostly correct until the p-47s, the F4us however do not improve at all (just different br, fuel load or armaments (usmc is lighter cuz no carrier equipment), i would actually argue that because of the increased BR they get worse until the -4 variant

[@8-bithades305]

@@skDoger The kingcobras get less manouverable than the aircobras, and the pbjs are terrible for CAS and intercepting b25 is much better choice for both

[@8-bithades305]

@@skDoger Really up to rank 4(not included is mostly fine so i hyperbolized) The p38s are actually very manouverable because of fowler flaps, and outturn all 109s 190s and some yaks. The late p51H is very much advised to dogfight in, just dont get caught out from 3rd parties, it has insane performance in every aspect due mostly to its engine power. The F8Fs are a must play and extremely manouverable, (you will consistently beat g56, g55 and you are fast good climb only negative is high speed compression and it bleeds energy because of the non elliptical wing design.

[@8-bithades305]

@@skDoger F7F has good engines but is outperformed by almost all other planes it faces, the only thing its got going is the good armament, but you can only do stuff that other fighters can do better. The late P47N is actually a really good flight model, big wings and high hp, but its stuck with a massive fuel load that ruins it

[@semihegeakdogan4964]

You forget me 262c series they have liquid rocket engines as boosters

[@RedSoo749]

i've just got the f84b and i must say it's a beast just go straight and keep your speed, the m3 machineguns will do the rest as they have great fire rate and good precision

[@BadgerJaguar27]

Agree f84 was my first jet and I love it, I can somewhat consistently get 3-5 kills per game

[@blyatpotato9484]

Doesn't have maneuverability for the tornado is an understatement, that thing turns like an airship

[@Geilolp.]

i'm not even into these kinds of games. but haha funny airplane is worth it watching this whole series multible times

[@LucasGator2]

The man, The myth, The legend has returned.

[@TheCaberDragon]

German main here German air tree is pain, the BF 109's in T2 are actual garbage, it only starts to get good when you have the FW and the later planes (it takes like 2 weeks to get any cannons on the fighters in german tree)

[@jonesy279]

They say its a F-5 but we all know its really a Mig-28

[@thesuppresor]

you manage to make this game look fun

[@bluhorizon332]

4:41 I would concur! The F8F (Bearcat) has some of the best agility for any super prop I've flown, it can even hold it's own against dogfights with Spitfires and can sometimes tango with some Japanese planes like the ki-84 or A7. The F8F-1 only has 4 .50s which yes aren't even good but foldered with the plane is the F8F-1B, replacing the .50s with that I personally think are some of the best 20mm cannons in the game

[@ONEIL311]

It's also the best cas planes for a 6.7 line up you get 3x 1000lbs and if know how to fly it u can pretty much take out all the enemy Cas. Hell most of the time If there are a lot of enemies up I just drop the bombs and go to work

[@michaellemasters7173]

F8U is pretty good idk why you say it’s bad and to skip. It’s arguably one of the better jets in its tier and it’s really fun if you play it right. Also don’t know why shade was thrown to the Av-8s turn rate. If you use the thrust vectoring it actually turns into something that can outrun nearly everything at the br.

[@pinglag1055]

Thank you for this well crafted video, it helps a new player like me a bunch. Plz release other nations soon 🙂

[@callum105]

this is just what i was looking for, good video👍

[@woableattack2990]

Great video, do Fire Nations next!

[@skDoger]

Lmao

[@CashIsSkating]

as he doesnt go over it for teir one of America. go and grind out the p36A as it is one of the fastest planes at that BR. then from there get the P36C and if you really like those planes then get the P36G. dont try to go up a rank without starting the other lines because the more lines you have the more options you have.

[@chadfalkin6850]

when you get to britain cover the hurricane IV's amazing 40mm cannons in air to air

[@henrique2456]

I havent even watched the full video but ill make my own Usa: 50 cal freedom launcher abuse Germany: watched history channel Ussr: bias Britain: just no Japan: warcrime simulator China: copy and paste France: repair cost land Italy: Sweden: repair cost land Israel: repair cost land

[@bigpablo673]

Can't wait for the next one these are incredibly helpful

[@lordcucumber]

great vid keen for the sovjiet techtree breakdown

[@maxomat4319]

You can dogfight in the P51s. But you should choose carefully who to dogfight with.

[@sh0cktrooper157]

Phenomenal video, just what i've been looking for. You've earned a sub.

[@skDoger]

Thank you!

[@NSerialDestination-x4p]

The missle knows where it is at all times

[@rowdymeeker416]

Cannonstang broke my will and made me quit playing the game for several months. Grinded around it using the b-25 which I still fly occasionally

[@forbiddenfruit6320]

F2p aint skipping nothing as u need to unlock x amount of planes to unlock the next tier 😂 luv the grind

[@turbosvickovoherniklipiky6058]

What are you talking about? The F84 is very good. I dont know how well it performs now, but two updates ago and with its air spawn, it was pretty op. It has a good top speed and good weapons at its tier

[@Bagelor]

He also said F-86 is one of the best early jets, that thing is horrible to play

[@mortman200]

I'd flip the F84 and F86. The F84 gets better matchmaking since there's way more people playing at 7.0 or under so your downsides don't matter as much. The Sabre gets constant uptiers and often has to face missile jets

[@jorankoehorst]

Agreed. Plus the f84G is incredible at 7.7 imo.

[@midgarw6775]

I feel like you needed to discuss how they perform for their BR better. Like the B29 would be good, if it wasn't going up against missles..

[@johns3544]

Simple gudie for Germeny. HE 111 both 1.7 and the 3.3 you dont need nothing else lol. Also for ships. 1.7 R130 rest will get you killed and frustrated. Avoid KV DD at all costs. Thers a few other bad DDs ill have to look at my K.D. Ratio based on either bad guns or usless ammo. Bad guns are just MGs that have low amougnt of ammo and bad reload, or just over heat if ya dont burst shot. Reason R130 is so good just use the Air to Air gun mount dont wast time on your MGs. low amount of rounds out and reload is around 3 or 4 seconds. Even with good crews. Rember Germen plains have realy bad gunners so just run for the targets.