Skier's Thumb Gamekeeper's Thumb - Everything You Need To Know - Dr. Nabil Ebraheim

[@DeafEmily]

Dr. Nabil Ebraheim, I want to THANK you for captioning/subtitling your videos. It's very beneficial for Deaf audiences. Jazak Allah Khairun!

[@itsmatthewalvarado]

thank you for putting together. i love researching how the body works especially when I am faced with an injury. always very interesting.

[@nabilebraheim]

Thank you, share with your friends and family!

[@user-hp8hf7qk7t]

Thank you. Most helpful video as i am trying to understand injury of partial tear of ulnar collateral ligament on my thumb

[@rafaelthecrusader7968]

just hurt it playing that arcade punching machine game. my thumb got cought on the upper part. gave it a right hook. my score was 920. but before that i got 974. dam why did have to be the badass

[@matta87]

Thanks for posting this vid, very good explained with the images and text next to it!

[@nabilebraheim]

Sorry to hear that.

[@TheTruckcop]

Excellent and informative video, Thanks for posting it. I managed to completely rupture my UCL. Even to the point of having an "excellent example of of Stener lesion: according to the surgeon who was showing it off to the surgery Intern and the others in the OR. I have had it repaired and and now am waiting for it to heal. Any therapy suggestions to restore strength and Range of motion?

[@lavarball7538]

6years past how is your thumb today buddy?

[@hulkkiddo3216]

How s ur thumb motion nw

[@jsmotherearth7]

I completely ruptured my right UCL while roller skating. I knew something was wrong when I tried to grasp the wall and my thumb was completely painful to the minor task, upon self examination, my thumbs range of motion was beyond 45°. A splint was given first in the E.R the same night and later a cast to stabilize, had surgery of which the Dr. braced and sutured the ligament to help with return of gripping strength. This video helped me to understand better the process he performed. Paraffin wax treatments after the stitches were removed helps exponentially in wound healing, along with gradual increase of tension hand exercises and when resting to have those squishy toys to rebuild muscle tissue to prevent stiffness.

[@FallingKen]

@@lavarball7538 actually, pretty good. Full range of motion, and only aches when it is cold. I am more worried about my hips and knees now... Old sucks

[@FallingKen]

@@hulkkiddo3216 It is good. Full range of motion and use. Only aches when it gets cold

[@manaremad816]

Thank you very much

[@brandonsylvia6214]

How’s range of motion after surgery ?

[@FallingKen]

In my case, full range of motion and full strength.

[@tsbialecki]

Thank you for sharing this video.

[@keatonhaskell6842]

holding back tears, anyone else?

[@kyusshogan5032]

Almost, have you healed up by now?

[@ciangavin7470]

Virgin

[@greenandblack5]

I did this playing football a year and a half ago, doctors said nothing was wrong, but I'm going to get a second opinion.

[@brandonsylvia6214]

Hey How’s your thumb doing , did you have surgery ? How was your recovery . I have a torn ucl and they don’t recommend surgery , it’s been 10 months since injury and it still hurts .

[@dailydoseofmedicinee]

good summary 👍

[@RohanLiViNgLeGeNd]

Excellent video

[@jacku6193]

Hello, I had this injury years ago when I accidentally sat on my palm and pulled my finger back violently, I can't extend my thumb fully now, I want to learn to play the piano but I need to know if I can still treat it

[@brandonsylvia6214]

Hey did you ever get an mri ? Is it fully torn or partially ? How’s your stability ? And did it not bother you for a while until now ?

[@jacku6193]

@@brandonsylvia6214 I will go to a plastic surgeon tommorow to see what the problem is, I think she/he will recommend an mri. I got checked by an orthopedic surgeon that said the ruptured tendon could've retracted back in the hand, and no it didn't bother me until now

[@brandonsylvia6214]

Has anyone had this injury heal with no cast/treatment ?

[@oceanceaser44]

So I might need surgery... Thanks for the info!

[@honeybeebusywhatsallthebuz1922]

Thank you ❤

[@karlydean508]

Thank you so much!

[@hosamelsayedorthotube7940]

Thanks for nice helpful video

[@ultim8hacker]

sir i think i sprained my thumb d last time i played basketball. im using a splint for 5 weeks now but im a bit worried that i think my UCL is a bit out of place? its moving when i use my thumb. is it possible or do i need surgery for this? or just keep wearing this splint until it heals fully? ill wait for ur answer sir,. thank u very much

[@XxCODxX27]

IM SACRED AS FUCK IN THINK IM FUCKED!!!!

[@ernietollar407]

My doctor says that there was nothing to indicate such a condition on the ultrasound imaging. She said my continuing pain when using the thumg is simply age related arthritis (58) but before the fall/accident I had no such impaiment. Several months later it is only marginally better. Could skiers thumb be hard to detect on an ultrasound????

[@ernietollar407]

@@user-tu5lg5zr2f I don't recall my Dr. mentioning any such narrowing. I would say it is after 7-8 months finally somewhat better . I still favour the other hand (my R) for strength oriented grasping which I would normally have done with the left. could it be a cause which is part t the age related asteoarthrits and part a skier's thumb injury.... but that I'l eventually be pretty much recovered. I do consider that although the injury seemed to surface after the wrestling accident, that i have been using that thumb for years back stretched for the holes of a large bamboo transverse flute, so maybe there is some osteoporosis / build up that was quite ignorable but became noticable after the skier's thumb injury event

[@hollisterpatricia]

Gamekeeper's thumb could be called washerwoman's thumb in my case. I sprained my right thumb very badly about two yrs ago, never went to the dr. It always hurt a little since then. Today I pulled it again the same way. Washing clothes by hand and wringing a heavy towel by hand can injure your ulnar ligament pretty badly.Now I know. Ouch.

[@gailhonadle5182]

+hollisterpatricia I think we could give it a lot of names, I'd call it Quilter's thumb and forefinger and the one to the right of it. There are very swollen knots, and atrophy in the space between the two digits. Ortho says only surgery to replace the joints would fix the issue, IT does not go away in 6 months, it just gets worse over time. Now my left hand is starting to develop it. Bouchard nodes in all the fingers are caused by Osteoarthritis. In my case all of it is arthritis and over use of the thumb and forefinger, I've not quilted in 4 years and the pain and swelling are still there. PT won't help, so don't waste your time. And OA drugs kill by GI tract. As do the OTC meds for pain. Tylenol will get your liver. The rest you GI Tract.

[@TropicalChris]

+hollisterpatricia I've heard it called the "Trying To Beat The Pac-Man High Score at the Local Arcade Thumb"

[@doctorsambor4526]

taking out the trash thumb

[@fatherofcovidxijingping516]

@@gailhonadle5182 what kind of surgery. Please tell me

[@gailhonadle5182]

@@fatherofcovidxijingping516 Torn ligament at the base joint, and trigger lock in the upper. It's a repetitive use injury as I hand top quilt. No surgery is straight forward and ended up with 2 screws in the base joint which froze the thumb. Hard cast crushed the wrist nerves and damaged the index finger, the tendons are drawn and the finger is stiff. Fine motor skills are limited, and it is my dominant hand.More women have this issue than men. Left is now doing the same only double joint trigger lock. BE aware PAIN MEDS will be very Restricted for any surgery after Nov 1.

[@swarajkar3086]

Video looks more painfull than actually happening to me.

[@MrBlowtreezallday]

@GildedDelta how long did it take to heal please ANSWER jus hurt my hand but dont wana go t o hospital

[@drjustinhavens5919]

Can anyone comment on whether level of pain dictates whether the ligament is completely ruptured and needs surgery? I fell on thumb 3 weeks ago and without a splint, it is 50% better. A physio alerted me to the long term consequences of leaving it and advised MRI scan immediately. Am getting a splint tomorrow - wondered whether pain is a good indication or not?

[@brandonsylvia6214]

Mine did not hurt that bad , It "felt better" over time but still hurts to this day because I thought it was getting better ... If I wore a brace or a cast immediately or sooner it would healed properly. Its been a year and a half for me and my ligament is still partially torn. I suggest you immediately wear a brace 24 hours a day, for 6 weeks. Otherwise you will have chronic pain, or need surgery or have to live with it like me. Get an MRI to know what exactly your dealing with. If you have partial tear , it can heal with the immobilization and brace . If its completely torn you may need surgery.

[@FallingKen]

The acute pain went away pretty quickly, the biggest complaint I had was the loss of grip strength. Well worth getting it fixed though.

[@explorerofunknownworlddept6232]

How's your pain and injury now? Mine was injured 4months+ ago, kept pain and swollen joint on the 2nd joint from the thumb tip, but the entire bone on the thumb is pressed pain though not more severe than the 2nd joint. The wrist connected to also seemed pain somehow, that whole area around thumb is uncomfortable. Used variety of medicines kept at home, useless. Finally saw Dr. now with topical Diclofenac (Voltaren) 1% prescribed, applied 3-4 times/d in first 3 days, but still not stop the pain & can't move the thumb around, rather that joint turned red on the swollen area. Concerned it's the medicine's side effect, stopped a few days. Not sure anyone know if this strong medicine will cure the injury like it treats arthritis within a week or severe, in 2 wks or a bit longer? Your kindly response would be really appreciated! ❤️

[@MusicYoutube-s5u]

​@@brandonsylvia6214 I'm not sure if mine is about ligament issue, but if ever it is, it's been 2 months, do you think it could still repair it if I will wear splint for a couple of weeks? Thank you

[@MusicYoutube-s5u]

​@@FallingKenmay I ask what did you do to heal from it? Do you wear splint 24/7? What kind of splint do you wear Thank you

[@Selvamtamilselvik]

How we know that it is very critical 😢

[@ultim8hacker]

and what exactly is stener lesion? if example i have that could i possibly use and move my thumb or not?

[@skythunder2601]

Many Thanks🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷

[@paulb756]

I just got this operated on

[@jamesdawson1171]

I had a crash downhill skateboarding a few weeks ago. Broke my lower thumb and snapped my ucl! It's not been a good time that's for sure.

[@katobytes]

How long did it take you to heal?

[@bobsmith2666]

i fell skiing 2 days ago and got an xray, I have symptoms of it on md and many more, so I am doing some research, but would an xray show this since it is a ligament?

[@muhammedanjum-qi3wt]

13 years ago I hadn’t even finished 10th grade.

[@R3FL3X84]

How long does a torn ulnar collateral ligament take to fully heal up ?

[@TropicalChris]

+MR REFLEX Depends on if it was avulsion or not. Could be a few months plus physical therapy to fully heal.

[@R3FL3X84]

yeah thanks pal. its been over a month slowly getting better. i exesize it everyday the is some pain while trying to grip really hard but apart from that i,d say its about 80% better :)

[@brandonsylvia6214]

@@R3FL3X84 hey how’s your thumb doing , I have a partially torn ucl . Injury happened 9 months ago , still feels tight and sore when I use it a lot . Only hurts when I’m lifting weights . I’m wondering if it will ever be back to normal without getting surgery

[@jguardz1]

@@brandonsylvia6214 Did it heal? I went 8 months with the pain, finally got an MRI. Doctor said 6 weeks with a cast on thumb. I’m getting the cast off in 3 days i’m praying it’s 100% healed!!

[@brandonsylvia6214]

@@jguardz1 hey man ! So I watched and commented on every video on here on KZbin . I think I’m on year 2 now after the injury . They put me in a splint for 6 weeks also , not sure if it fully healed it but after that I did some physical therapy . I even got an mri after that and it was still showing that it is torn . Good news is , I live with it now and it doesn’t affect me at all . I just try to be careful when snowboarding to not fall on it . But Im pretty much back to 99% normal now 🤷‍♂️doctor said he doesn’t recommend surgery since I still had stability

[@nabilebraheim]

@tsbialecki great

[@GildedDelta]

a ligament in my stener lesion is torn but i can move it fine but im scared to have a surgery cuz im worried that something could go wrong and ill probably wont be able to play my piano as i would b4

[@brandonsylvia6214]

did you ever get the surgery ? how is it now ? I'm dealing with the same problem. I have a stener lesion but can move it fine, and I play guitar for a living

[@brandonsylvia6214]

I don't know if I should get surgery or not

[@TommyMartiniMusic]

@@brandonsylvia6214 how's your injury doing? I was in a motorcycle accident on the 22nd of February had multiple fractures and a torn UCL I had the cast on for 6 weeks just removed it last week and had the MRI about 3 weeks ago the hospital said they didn't believe it was a Steiner lesion but my hand specialist disagreed. He didn't recommend surgery since my thumb is pretty stable but the pain is still there and it's hard to play guitar like I used to.

[@brandonsylvia6214]

@@TommyMartiniMusic Having the cast on for 6 weeks should of helped it . Best thing I recommend is getting another MRI now that you have done the proper treatment having it in a cast for 6 weeks and see if the ligament re attached itself and healed properly. make sure you do physical therapy , that is huge! I was never put in a cast. Mine bothered me for about 2 years, by now it seems to be fine I just need to be careful to not re injure it.I seemed to have gotten lucky because they told me it was completely torn but I still have stability so they told me to not get surgery and just live with it so far so good

[@FallingKen]

I had the same concern and asked the surgeon if I will be able to play the piano afterwards. He asked if I could play piano before and I told him no. He said the surgery won't improve that then 😁

[@nabilebraheim]

@GildedDelta listen to your doc

[@sridhar123ish]

the doctor diagonised me with ucl. they did a thumb spica for 3 weeks. bt after removing the plaster i had pain the same way as before. i did therapyies for many times. even after that i had pain whenever i stressed my thumb. its been 3 years now. i sprained my thumb again and now the pain is exptreme. any advice ???

[@brandonsylvia6214]

hey how’s your thumb doing , I have a partially torn ucl . Injury happened 9 months ago , still feels tight and sore when I use it a lot . Only hurts when I’m lifting weights . I’m wondering if it will ever be back to normal without getting surgery

[@lamontmcdaniels322]

@@brandonsylvia6214 same i hurt mine slamming a door in December still hurts sad to say my dotor told me surgery is on was to fix it . But crazy thing is when I got an xray day I hurt my thumb they said no fractures or broken bone they said I dislocated my thumb and they didn't pop in place or give me a brace it never was swollen or bruise up now it only hurt when I pop it or when push angist something it's a beeping aching feel and I feel slight clicking and bond gring when I move my thumb now

[@brandonsylvia6214]

@@lamontmcdaniels322 Same here, did you get an MRI ? How is the stability of your thumb ?

[@lamontmcdaniels322]

@@brandonsylvia6214 yeah I got MRI he told me I have what drew bress had but tbh I my specialist had me do a grip test to see me strength on each thumb he said it bout the same he told me surgery was an option or that I could wear a thumb splint to prevent future arthritis but he also said that I can still move it pretty good so I just waer my thumb stabilizer / splint I got from Walgreens hopefully it help but my thumb bone only hurts when it pops so I'll just keep wear brace and hope yours get better

[@jsmotherearth7]

@@lamontmcdaniels322, you can try paraffin wax treatments about two to three times a week, that'll pull fresh blood to the area and regenerate collagen supply. Get some squishy toys to grip and that'll help with the stiffness while aiding to rebuild your strength. Hope that helps. I completely ruptured my right UCL leaving my range of motion beyond 45°, I also received a splint and later a cast to stabilize my thumb while awaiting a date for surgery. My Dr. braced the sutured ligament: 1. To help with return of strength and 2. To help prevent re-injury in the future. I incorporated paraffin wax for wound healing, it exponentially worked, then I did increased tension hand exercises to rebuild the muscle outside of rehab therapy. Again, I hope this information helps you have less pain, swelling and a decrease in the stiffness and clicking of your thumb. Healing now may be slow, but baby steps still make it to the finish line.

[@amlikancha]

great job

[@chrisjoyner5962]

The only thing that is happening is my upper joints on my thumbs are popping they do not hurt my moms a nurse and she said to get a brace

[@Asquare369]

Awesome😍😍

[@nabilebraheim]

@nabilebraheim thanks

[@jbdenniss8958]

Iv had it in both of my thumbs for 6 months now, I think I got it off to long on the play station, I went to the doctors 5 months ago they told me to stop playing. I haven't played in 6 months. Can someone help me cause it's really horrible

[@TropicalChris]

+Jord Denniss It couldn't be from Playstation, because it requires stress to the tendon. Unless you're giving the death grip to your controller, it shouldn't be that reason. Surgery is usually the only way to fix this

[@jsmotherearth7]

@JB Denniss, I know this is a super long time to get some type of response, but I came across your question while doing more research of my own condition. It sounds like you're suffering from Carpal Tunnel from over repetition or you've strained your thumbs from the same. Try getting paraffin wax treatments to help with getting fresh blood and collagen to the area, also get some squishy toys to help rebuild strength to not only your thumbs, but your total hand as well. Hope this helps.

[@nicoom]

@@jsmotherearth7 thanks mate

[@nabilebraheim]

@Nickliu2010 thanks

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[@nabilebraheim]

@TCMAUMEE great

[@nabilebraheim]

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[@nabilebraheim]

@mwidmer84 great

[@RohanLiViNgLeGeNd]

NO ..u need MRI or ultrasound

[@je6874]

Rozza Ripped yes, but ultrasound before MRI

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[@Mahmoud-oz7se]

Thank you!