No video

Skill Based Matchmaking in Modern Warfare (Analysis & Opinion)

  Рет қаралды 270,984

TheXclusiveAce

TheXclusiveAce

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 2 700
@AztecPancakeZz
@AztecPancakeZz 4 жыл бұрын
To everyone else with an above average skill level: when was the last time youve seen someone drop a nuke outside of ground war? I havent seen one since release day
@TheLp640fan
@TheLp640fan 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know it was possible outside of ground war
@ArcticWipeout
@ArcticWipeout 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen one period. Not a single nuke.
@mertboy94
@mertboy94 4 жыл бұрын
jop no nuke even tho i only play domination.
@gumption2967
@gumption2967 4 жыл бұрын
Nope only on ground war
@mawfugga8064
@mawfugga8064 4 жыл бұрын
Never.
@AnonEMus-cp2mn
@AnonEMus-cp2mn 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve said it from the beginning and I’ll say it again: Any advantages intended for beginners will be exploited by professionals.
@mitchellnelson7555
@mitchellnelson7555 4 жыл бұрын
Already videos about how to get into low skill lobbies lol..
@IroquoisPlissken
@IroquoisPlissken 4 жыл бұрын
Wise words.
@mikehooter3884
@mikehooter3884 4 жыл бұрын
Preach
@moist603
@moist603 4 жыл бұрын
@DN_Horror AW was the last cod before MW to have sbmm lol
@AnimosityIncarnate
@AnimosityIncarnate 4 жыл бұрын
@@moist603 That's fucking wrong, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Sbmm has been in every single cod sense atleast cod4... Sbmm is just stronger and more strict in certain cods... stop lying to yourself
@ethanjohnson93
@ethanjohnson93 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh, so this is why the lobby resets every time...
@GeekRaj
@GeekRaj 4 жыл бұрын
ofcourse I knew this from day 1
@chrisdobson4597
@chrisdobson4597 4 жыл бұрын
If people stay most of the players are still in there in the next game
@ghsteagle5567
@ghsteagle5567 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Dobson yes and that is why when I find a good lobby I don’t leave.
@McTacker
@McTacker 4 жыл бұрын
@@ghsteagle5567 lol what? i had a few good lobbies where everyone streeded the enemies and in the next game there wasnt a single one them..
@oppotato5440
@oppotato5440 4 жыл бұрын
*i get 22 kills* Me: Hey i got like 22 kills this match i’m finally getting better at this game *one game later* *I go 4-22* Me: Well nvm
@adammalone2909
@adammalone2909 4 жыл бұрын
You did get better though. Your skill isn't related to the skill of others. Beating up on rookies doesn't make you good, it makes you a bully. Granted, it feels like the swing is a little hard in this game, but not too bad. It would be like thinking you aren't good at guitar because someone else on the bill had a better guitar player than you.
@redoltwn5119
@redoltwn5119 4 жыл бұрын
Adam Malone wtf are you talking about...
@adammalone2909
@adammalone2909 4 жыл бұрын
@@redoltwn5119 The suggestion that playing against people who aren't any good the first place is a valid indicator of if you've improved or not.
@solaimanwahab5286
@solaimanwahab5286 4 жыл бұрын
@@adammalone2909 Youre an idiot man. At times they match you up with players where you're lucky to even get a kill against them
@adammalone2909
@adammalone2909 4 жыл бұрын
@@solaimanwahab5286 Just like what would happen without skill based matchmaking, correct?
@jakeliebman9462
@jakeliebman9462 4 жыл бұрын
XclusiveAce out here doing more research for us than I did in my whole college career.
@Ace-hg3vx
@Ace-hg3vx 4 жыл бұрын
That's sad...
@aliceakosota797
@aliceakosota797 4 жыл бұрын
All that matters is you got that high paying job at the end
@thormeinke3205
@thormeinke3205 4 жыл бұрын
Alice Akosuta ok boomer
@Ace-hg3vx
@Ace-hg3vx 4 жыл бұрын
@@aliceakosota797 "high paying job" have you been to college?
@NurseBadTouch
@NurseBadTouch 4 жыл бұрын
@@aliceakosota797 the sad truth
@Celestial_Wing
@Celestial_Wing 4 жыл бұрын
The solution is simple, add a Ranked playlist and a Social playlist just like Halo 3 did back in the day.
@rockon772
@rockon772 4 жыл бұрын
That's not simple...people will just come pub stomp the casual lobby
@Trial4RTC
@Trial4RTC 4 жыл бұрын
@@rockon772 That's not a problem. If a player is getting pubstomped in the casual lobbies, he or she can just hop on ranked.
@Basilone45
@Basilone45 4 жыл бұрын
@@rockon772 and if you can't gracefully handle getting your ass kicked from time to time, go fuckin suck it up with the rest of the noobs in ranked at the lowest division
@kloserlook
@kloserlook 4 жыл бұрын
Basilone or or or you TAKE YOUR TRY HARD ASS TO RANKED LOBBIES. YOU SOUND PUSSY
@Celestial_Wing
@Celestial_Wing 4 жыл бұрын
@@rockon772 Well that's not Infinity's fault, that's the sweaty try hard's fault. They're too pussy to play against equally skilled players for keeps.
@naoki95957
@naoki95957 4 жыл бұрын
One thing I miss about the old cods is that back then, most games I played were casual and when someone was trying hard I could push them back, try too, and really build a competitive nemesis for a few games. That isn't here and won't be with SBMM.
@patioperformancecrew2221
@patioperformancecrew2221 4 жыл бұрын
Yes lol I miss the days when you could stay in the game with the same players and try to out smart each other the next game. Having had a 2.0 and better KD in most CoD now it’s hard to even enjoy this new one due to SBMM and having to find a new lobby every game
@williamharris5126
@williamharris5126 4 жыл бұрын
They find a new Lobby every game and you can't get revenge
@vivalavega01
@vivalavega01 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone's your nemesis in this game
@chaconcha
@chaconcha 4 жыл бұрын
This just makes my play sessions shorter, I remember back in the mw2 days I could spend HOURS playing non stop. Now I just play a couple games and thats it
@CashFLG1
@CashFLG1 3 жыл бұрын
sammich
@kcole8938
@kcole8938 4 жыл бұрын
Getting a nuke dropped on you every once in a while builds character
@ckl3814
@ckl3814 4 жыл бұрын
For sure, it also strengthen's ur mental state. Imaging getting nuked 5 games in a row per night. When you go to work the next day, you can take what ever sh*t that's thrown at you because you've endured a 5 consecutive nuked games last night :D
@jeremybrown9611
@jeremybrown9611 4 жыл бұрын
Nah it's fucked up in this mode, I've played games where a tactical nuke was dropped on me and I've never got killed by the opponent or I got killed by his streaks but never his gun, never saw the guy but I got a nuke dropped on me
@9jawarrior130
@9jawarrior130 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@fredboilit8012
@fredboilit8012 4 жыл бұрын
Amen
@NocturnalNick
@NocturnalNick 4 жыл бұрын
of course, just ask Japan
@brettpearce8258
@brettpearce8258 4 жыл бұрын
This is the content we need, not bitching on or been a shill just pure research with actual facts then a personal opinion on the subject. Appreciated bro.
@levig6238
@levig6238 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you actually watched or just didn't understand. The strict SBMM that Ace and Driftor discovered was strongly correlated to the last 5 games statistics. It means you're going to roller coaster a bunch, not that you'll always have sweat lobbies. If anything their research should encourage people that IW is on to something. If you have a shitty few games, here's an easier lobby. Oh it looks like you're crushing it, here's some more competitive lobbies to hone your skills.
@brettpearce8258
@brettpearce8258 4 жыл бұрын
@@levig6238 not sure why your blabbering this to me based on my comment lol, but I'm in the same boat as ace and the majority really of not liking sbmm. It gives you zero sense of getting better or accomplishment when the better you get the more meta and sweaty the lobbies you get will be. Especially in a casual shooter if they want to do strong sbmm just as was said make a ranked playlist. Variety as they say is the spice of life with sbmm you get very little variety.
@MrMadder83
@MrMadder83 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with the video and Brett this sbmm is a joke it’s not for casual play make a ranked league for that how they hell am I going to get 50 pistol headshots with players of the same skill level rocking a ak47 two hits Iam out but I’ve too land 5 first never going to happen but if I come across a noob it can get done so every match Iam getting 2/3 headshots and slowly getting the challenge done but no grinding this year it seems just like no prestige the whole idea is flawed xp means nothing to a max level player daily challenges mean nothing trials double count weekend all pointless and now the only thing you did have which was challenges are near on impossible too complete unless you have 4 shite games before hand to get a noob lobby
@nickchamberlin
@nickchamberlin 4 жыл бұрын
@@brettpearce8258 he was trying to help you understand, which you clearly don't.
@m0lders322
@m0lders322 4 жыл бұрын
Constructive criticism isn't bitching. There are always some people who expect the best of the best, but most of the community's just annoyed by this unneeded and overly strict feature
@captainprice4998
@captainprice4998 4 жыл бұрын
Literally, everything you've said is how i feel. I have a 1.95 kd and all of a sudden i realized that all the players i was playing against were soo good and my kd started to drop. I felt like i wasn't good anymore and i couldn't improve
@ShadowzZ91
@ShadowzZ91 4 жыл бұрын
Out of interest, what's your KD at the moment? A week after this comment? I started MW at 1.30 and I've dropped to 1.05. Back in the days of MW2 I had 2.49. Exactly the same play style...maybe I'm just old...
@captainprice4998
@captainprice4998 4 жыл бұрын
ShadowzZ91 I have 2.07 Kd now I had to change my style of play, I still run around the map but more of walking than running cuz you don’t want people to hear you
@barnzey3026
@barnzey3026 4 жыл бұрын
Captain Price such a shame, they really fucked this game
@KingDeanVII
@KingDeanVII 4 жыл бұрын
A little late here but in the first few hundred hours I had a 2.75 kd but as I leveled up and developed sbmm has bent me over and ran my kd down to 1.6
@adammalone2909
@adammalone2909 4 жыл бұрын
Boxing against people who aren't as competent of a boxer as you will never improve your boxing ability.
@gubzs
@gubzs 4 жыл бұрын
"We made this game for casuals" *enables intense skill based matchmaking*
@RacistZebraa
@RacistZebraa 4 жыл бұрын
Gubzs casuals are worse players, so SBMM is an advantage for them. They’re less likely to get destroyed every game.
@twirkinkittyd4715
@twirkinkittyd4715 4 жыл бұрын
@@RacistZebraa I don't really think so, I think majority of new players already left the game, only the old fans're currently active, but I have no statistic to back up my assumption, take it with a grain of salt
@gubzs
@gubzs 4 жыл бұрын
@@RacistZebraa They're also less likely to care about getting better, less likely to improve, and less likely to get attached to the franchise longterm as they gain benefits for improving.
@Mut4ntG4m3r
@Mut4ntG4m3r 4 жыл бұрын
but that IS good for casuals. They usually dont get obliterated by the enemy as they are only matched against around equally skilled players.
@twirkinkittyd4715
@twirkinkittyd4715 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mut4ntG4m3r exatcly, I don't think new players're biggest campers in the game, they're just exploring
@XXNemesisXXXX
@XXNemesisXXXX 4 жыл бұрын
SBMM makes it feel like I have to try my ass off during every single game which was enough of a reason several times to make me not want to play when I was feeling even slightly tired.
@kDallas_
@kDallas_ 4 жыл бұрын
Same bro
@ForeheadSweat
@ForeheadSweat 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah at least in BO4, I played it way longer since launch. I’m still lvl 42 in this game. I just wanna chill and own sometimes. But I have to try way too hard to have fun. And that’s good, sometimes.
@XXNemesisXXXX
@XXNemesisXXXX 4 жыл бұрын
It's fascinating how this "one step forward but two steps back" mentality has been a thing in CoD for so long. One year CoD introduces a better quality of life change (for example: point-streaks, ability to buy attachments you like via points, ability to opt out of being put into a losing match in progress) and the team that is working on the CoD that's releasing next year doesn't include these things. Not being able to see this invisible rating number sucks and constantly playing Ground War with it's terribly balanced tanks that can see in 3rd person mode gets annoying quite quickly. What I am trying to say is that when you have to try your hardest every game, not only does it intimidate experimentation with loadouts because everyone is sweating in a corner with a M4 or 725 but it also makes leveling up things like pistols and camos the worst it's EVER been.
@garrettg6330
@garrettg6330 4 жыл бұрын
XXNemesisXXXX Leveling up guns is very demoralizing lmao. I enjoy search and cyber a lot, minus the shit spectator glitch, but trying to level the deagle in these modes is infuriating. You don’t do good, toxic players talk shit. So, you swap to a gun that is passed level 30 to help your team.
@dannygornall827
@dannygornall827 4 жыл бұрын
@@garrettg6330 HC playlist for levelling Handguns, I was really struggling until I switched to HC easily 1.5kd per match with pistols and barely trying
@dmk3859
@dmk3859 4 жыл бұрын
so is this why they break up the lobbies?
@weirdeurasianboy8091
@weirdeurasianboy8091 4 жыл бұрын
Yis
@everinelattice9550
@everinelattice9550 4 жыл бұрын
Aww shit this guy got over 2k/d... time to bring in the sweatyz
@slamminx3
@slamminx3 4 жыл бұрын
Would explain it
@AngrySecs
@AngrySecs 4 жыл бұрын
No it's because of the lobby filters youre using. Because not everyone is using the same filters youre using they have to switch lobbies every game or everyone that selected 2-3 game modes could be playing the same game mode every game
@alexanderreyes3356
@alexanderreyes3356 4 жыл бұрын
Another reason is maps. If you just finished a 10v10 map and are about to start a 6v6 one with the same lobby, 4 people on each team would have to be kicked.
@ClintBeastmode
@ClintBeastmode 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that we get thrown into a new lobby just so they can enforce their stupid sbmm pisses me off even more.
@XboxIssues
@XboxIssues 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta make sure little Timmy has a chance at getting a care package!!
@ilg2012
@ilg2012 4 жыл бұрын
Yea, it prevents us from developing that special rivalry with someone where we learn their style over a few games and have the opportunity to think strategically about how to beat them.
@chaconcha
@chaconcha 4 жыл бұрын
ilg2012 I miss that so much, the other day I was playing with this guy and we had such a good time together. I forgot his name so that was that...
@captainfruchtgummi2292
@captainfruchtgummi2292 4 жыл бұрын
@@ilg2012 even the trashtalk ends right after the match because you switch lobbies
@Steve_Solomon
@Steve_Solomon 4 жыл бұрын
Me: Lvl 38 Call of duty: Lets put him with 155's
@falcoon_f_zero9450
@falcoon_f_zero9450 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously, at level 15 or so 80% of the people I was matched up with were level 100+. I've been thrown into lobbies where I'm the only player under level 100 so many times. It's like the game wants me to have a bad time.
@kacbor6848
@kacbor6848 4 жыл бұрын
@@falcoon_f_zero9450 why I am getting megalovania/sans fight frome undertale flashbacks (the bad time) but same with me bro, going in a lobby with like 150 lvl players just makes me quit this match. BUT... At least when you get low K.D you can get into some lower level of skill lobby
@falcoon_f_zero9450
@falcoon_f_zero9450 4 жыл бұрын
@@kacbor6848 Yeah, suffer 3-5 bad, campy low K.D matches just to get one good round only to go through the same process again. Seems like a fair tradeoff. God, isn't SBMM awesome?
@ApexWalrus
@ApexWalrus 4 жыл бұрын
9:59 So I'm not the only one that has insane trouble with those boxes
@wetbones4739
@wetbones4739 4 жыл бұрын
Apex Walrus I was thinking the exact same thing. Then you have to wait a few before you can jump again 🤬
@vectorsigma6757
@vectorsigma6757 4 жыл бұрын
Yep... Esp if someone is already camping there...
@bruh-uy3vn
@bruh-uy3vn 4 жыл бұрын
Best solution is to hold down the jump button. Although even that doesnt work all the time
@KnicksGonnaKillme
@KnicksGonnaKillme 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfaoooooo when that happened to him i was like oo it's not just me. I thought it was my elite remote
@xlifesxtoughx
@xlifesxtoughx 4 жыл бұрын
I hate them I swear
@SuperPowerButton
@SuperPowerButton 4 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that I do better when there is a variety of load outs on the enemy team. The games I get destroyed in are full of people running M4A1 and 725
@levig6238
@levig6238 4 жыл бұрын
Adding a ranked playlist wont change this, but I agree.
@ShinyStarOfDeath
@ShinyStarOfDeath 4 жыл бұрын
You can only get M4A1 if you reached maximum rank so they're definitely not common in lobbies.
@ShinyStarOfDeath
@ShinyStarOfDeath 4 жыл бұрын
ItzWolffz You’re right , I just realized the “blueprint” you unlock in armoury is something else. I unlocked “OG M4A1” Blueprint when I reached rank 155 and thought it was the M4A1 everyone was talking about! My bad.
@Z1GMA12
@Z1GMA12 4 жыл бұрын
100% honest here: I dont think MW is as bad as some ppl say, I think it's the SBMM that makes it bad cuz you will NEVER feel like you're doing well, and you as a skiled players is not used to that.
@m0lders322
@m0lders322 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, the game is actually pretty fun and well made. But SBMM makes everything you're playing for feel like a punishment
@fruityMangoExperience
@fruityMangoExperience 4 жыл бұрын
Most of the maps aren't very well made Or let's say they are well made for campers because there are a ton of corners and windows. If someone comes around there the chance that he is able to check all corners and windows is literally not there. So the maps allow easy kills for campers....there were maps like this before MW but not that many
@Raniaska0306
@Raniaska0306 4 жыл бұрын
Good point, that's exactly what I think of myself when playing public matches
@falcoon_f_zero9450
@falcoon_f_zero9450 4 жыл бұрын
MW would have the ingredients for a really good game but SBMM brings it all down. Smooth gameplay, really fun weapons, awesome killstreaks, attention to detail... But then SBMM makes 90% of the weapons non-viable because they aren't top tier. Everyone and their mother just runs around with M4s and SMGs. You never experience the best killstreaks because of how impossible it is to get them. You're lucky to see the occasional VTOL. Maps would be tolerable if you weren't only playing against sweats camping at every possible opportunity. Even good classic maps like Crash and Vacant turned sour because they became campfests and the map flow was gone. And you can't just relax and enjoy the visuals and attention to detail because you're playing super carefully just to get a simple UAV. Thanks skill based matchmaking!
@felixrangel6772
@felixrangel6772 4 жыл бұрын
@@fruityMangoExperience ya and in my opinion they should get rid of mounting
@IHasBrains
@IHasBrains 4 жыл бұрын
I hate how the game forces you to use the meta weapons just to do good when all I want to do is just sit back, relax and just have fun. Use the guns I want and play the game the way I want to play it without the risk of my stats plummeting down into oblivion and just barely pushing positive. I hope the SBMM gets taken out or tweaked in the overhaul
@IHasBrains
@IHasBrains 4 жыл бұрын
It’s out of control and I’m baffled on how the SBMM is so strong in this game, like who’s idea was it to make it this strict?
@m0lders322
@m0lders322 4 жыл бұрын
*Laughs in God 4 and Overkill*
@duffal0
@duffal0 4 жыл бұрын
I haven’t been able to push .80 kd since I got them game😂😂😂I don’t even feel like I’m that bad
@zhila5958
@zhila5958 4 жыл бұрын
it’s just frustrating that i want to enjoy the game and kids that even have a golden 725 keep abusing it forcing me to switch to 725 too. even tho after i fire back with 725 and destroy their ass it’s just not fun. i have a golden mp5 too and the reason i got most.of the camos was getting forced to abuse the mp5 because everyone was using it
@Eethurtacles
@Eethurtacles 4 жыл бұрын
I don't care about my K/D or the meta. I'm going to use the SA87 and I'm going to like it!
@nwhome9615
@nwhome9615 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 1.63 k/d while all my friends are under 1 k/d. You can imagine how frustrated they get when they party up with me...
@cashliN_
@cashliN_ 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know how it works, does it use the host of the party or the highest skilled player?
@michaelespeland
@michaelespeland 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! We all have an amazing game when I drop into their game. But, after that, when we party up, we get absolutely smashed.
@Fl3x182
@Fl3x182 4 жыл бұрын
@@cashliN_it uses the highest skilled player i think
@cashliN_
@cashliN_ 4 жыл бұрын
Razor oh cheers! that’s so dumb
@Cairo98_
@Cairo98_ 4 жыл бұрын
@Charles Martel 😂
@kaydenmeyersick8049
@kaydenmeyersick8049 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched a lot of cod videos in my days... this is arguably the most factual & important vid for the devs to see ever. You explained, kept it simple, we deserve a response
@ShinyStarOfDeath
@ShinyStarOfDeath 4 жыл бұрын
I hope they change it, in the lobbies I’m in it seems everyone is camping and get 20 kills to 3 death. I’m the kind of player who runs and capture an average of 10 flags in domination while maintaining a reasonable 5 kills more than the amount of death I get. But now I’m forced to camp like everyone else and get 17 kills to 5 death and getting a lot less captures on average. Statistically it’s better but I’m not having fun anymore. Am I the only one feeling this?
@budman6137
@budman6137 4 жыл бұрын
Fuckin right bro. Exactly what I been saying. My kd average is slightly higher but ur point is very well taken. I've had to change my entire playstyle so I don't go negative and it's completely turned me off from this game. To the point to where I almost never play it. I'm just waiting for some major changes. I wish this comment would get more attention cause I guarantee there's a lot of us that feel this way
@oliversteiner24
@oliversteiner24 4 жыл бұрын
Same here, i‘m wondering what kind of skill based matchmakinh this is where nobody is playing the objektive but camp for kills, it fucking sucks. There was no CoD back in the days where i had so many games finished due the outruning time
@dannytaylor2676
@dannytaylor2676 4 жыл бұрын
Lads im rank 4 and been matched with ranks over 100+. I have no idea where im going on these new maps and i cant even get of the bottom of the leaderboard. Max kills was 4 in one game. What ever happened to matchin you to the same rank or even offering a newbie lobby so you can get used to the maps. Im getting fucked every match by pro players.
@codykelly8627
@codykelly8627 4 жыл бұрын
Why do you get more points for kills rather than capturing objectives? That's what causes the camping I think. If they adjusted that for game modes that typically require you to move around the map I think that would create more of an incentive to move rather than camp.
@oliversteiner24
@oliversteiner24 4 жыл бұрын
Cody Kelly thats right! Capturing 5 flags & having about 20kills is less worth than caputring nothing and having 30 kills..CoD logic
@jamesgriffin5711
@jamesgriffin5711 4 жыл бұрын
That shoot house game you shown is exactly my experience. Gets old fast
@local_celebrity
@local_celebrity 4 жыл бұрын
Amen to this. SBMM has sucked all the fun out of multiplayer.
@Zack-504
@Zack-504 4 жыл бұрын
doesnt even exist mate. its a thing people made up for so long that people believe in it. Like god for instance.
@cxnorn9898
@cxnorn9898 4 жыл бұрын
@@Zack-504 how does it not exist lmao, cod has even admitted it's a thing.
@billybob-fw3vr
@billybob-fw3vr 4 жыл бұрын
Zach Cole everyone knows it exists, don’t be a dumbass
@syndax6408
@syndax6408 4 жыл бұрын
Zach it exist your just trash that’s why it doesn’t exist for you
@srggfrr8951
@srggfrr8951 4 жыл бұрын
Humble & Deadly so basically you're all complaining because you want to play against noobs? 😂😂 fucking trash
@MavicAVF
@MavicAVF 4 жыл бұрын
Suck at the game = have fun Be good at the game = have fun dying
@gorehound666
@gorehound666 4 жыл бұрын
get better?
@derekhefner3424
@derekhefner3424 4 жыл бұрын
David Suarez getting better just means you go against, you guessed it, even better players. There’s no variety whatsoever
@gorehound666
@gorehound666 4 жыл бұрын
Derek Hefner that doesn't make sense though, obviously there isn't going to be variety when there is SBMM, but you aren't getting placed against CoD pro players either. If someone is better than you, and you constantly get shit on in your games, then you're going to move back down in your hidden ranking. The game allowing you to constantly pubstomp would be fun for you, but then there's no challenge, which is ultimately the real issue at hand. People want the reward without the challenge
@derekhefner3424
@derekhefner3424 4 жыл бұрын
David Suarez you do know we’re talking about COD right? This isn’t a game designed around being at all competitive at the most casual level. If people want a challenge, they should have an option to play ranked, or play a game that’s better known for its competition. Not cod
@gorehound666
@gorehound666 4 жыл бұрын
Derek Hefner right, except people didn't complain about matchmaking UNTIL they were placed against so-called "sweats" (another buzzword for better players) so again, it's a matter of people not wanting the challenge but wanting the reward
@bruh-uy3vn
@bruh-uy3vn 4 жыл бұрын
In Infinite Warfare i was averaging around 1.5-2 kd. Sometimes 3-5. Now i have like 0.9. Honestly the sbmm is just ridiculous.
@Daniel-dp6up
@Daniel-dp6up 4 жыл бұрын
Same. My K/D’s on CoD4, MW2, and black ops were all 2.5-3 now I’m always between 0.95 - 1.10
@Energysunn2215
@Energysunn2215 4 жыл бұрын
honestly my kd in the past month from bo1, bo2, and bo3 all are between 1.5 to 2.2 and i do play these games regularly still. on mw, its 1.04 :(. ground war is 1.68 so obviously normally matchmaking is broken
@jeffreyb1613
@jeffreyb1613 4 жыл бұрын
@@Energysunn2215 Yup I get the same, between 1.8 to 3 depending on the COD and the year I played, now I'm around 1 to 1.1. It's frustrating because I know I'm good at the game but I just start raging when I have to sweat like crazy to stay competitive in higher brackets.
@LinoGuzman
@LinoGuzman 4 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey B yeah I definitely noticed a drop to my KD which low key makes me sad cause I always thought I was a good player, but if my KD dropped than that means I have to get better, b/c players like ImMarksman are good and can handle harder lobbies, and it shows I can’t... I do wish for a ranked style game type for public matches so I can see improvement, because right now sometimes I’m like “yes I’m actually improving” than others I’m not doing great, just average.
@subvoid737
@subvoid737 4 жыл бұрын
this shit needs to go hate playing casually and everyone else sweating in their seats... forces me to treat it like MLG if i want to do well... crazy
@toddlack6023
@toddlack6023 4 жыл бұрын
Legit tired of the constant try hard matches. Apparently I’m a professional gamer because all my matches have the quickest reacting people in the world. Maybe it’s just the awful netcode but damn I don’t even get hit just drop dead.
@the7A7dude
@the7A7dude 4 жыл бұрын
Its all net code from my experience, you were probably getting trashed by the host.
@AnonEMus-cp2mn
@AnonEMus-cp2mn 4 жыл бұрын
@@the7A7dude I have terrible host connection issues no matter how good my internet is. Sometimes everything just freezes and I spend a few seconds wandering around the map time itself stopped. Even explosions are frozen and perfectly 3D, its the one impressive thing to look at in a very infuriating and far too common occurrence for me.
@the7A7dude
@the7A7dude 4 жыл бұрын
Must that is all you my guy, need a brand new internet provider lmfao
@AnonEMus-cp2mn
@AnonEMus-cp2mn 4 жыл бұрын
@@the7A7dude You're probably right, I don't have the luxury because rural locations have very few providers in the first place. Nearby friends with the same provider don't seem to have the same issues though, so I wonder if it boils down to reliability and internet use in our specific location. If everyone's relying on one network with a limited amount of data, then there won't be enough to go around.
@toddlack6023
@toddlack6023 4 жыл бұрын
@@the7A7dude 200mbps down hardwired. My connection isn't the problem. If you check Reddit others say same thing. People appear out of nowhere or straight invisible. Pretty large issue affecting lots of people.
@BSJINTHEHOUSE420
@BSJINTHEHOUSE420 4 жыл бұрын
It’s so strong it might put FlexTape out of business!
@m0lders322
@m0lders322 4 жыл бұрын
Can it fix a broken marriage tho
@Mlungu2
@Mlungu2 4 жыл бұрын
So, if my K/D is really shit compared to prior CODs, does that mean I am a good player?
@m0lders322
@m0lders322 4 жыл бұрын
It means you're not as bad as you might have thought :)
@caspervandenberg4103
@caspervandenberg4103 4 жыл бұрын
Thats the issue, it doesn't, you could be good or bad. Im on pc and in bo4 i did about 2.3 1 month post launch, now im at 1.4...
@blindfoldgang7161
@blindfoldgang7161 4 жыл бұрын
If skill based matchmaking is negatively affecting you, than that means you’re a good player lol
@a-animal1206
@a-animal1206 4 жыл бұрын
Every Wonder why they tie your activision account to the game when no other cod has done this ? It's because they are looking at your prior stats from prior games to add this into there bullshit sbmm.
@yegfuf
@yegfuf 4 жыл бұрын
A-animal I doubt it because I'm using a new account for the new MW and I still get matched vs tryhards non-stop
@silvangold007
@silvangold007 4 жыл бұрын
The connections are SO inconsistent. Some games I'll be able to win every fight im in and im invincible. Others I might as well just sit in spawn and pout
@dannyrose4121
@dannyrose4121 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@chrishipona8172
@chrishipona8172 4 жыл бұрын
Sbmm should be totally removed Ranked play should be put back in Nothing more to talk on
@Cmwright..BCW91
@Cmwright..BCW91 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was going to comment
@snowclone5650
@snowclone5650 4 жыл бұрын
cringe, please just get better. SBMM is normal in every game.
@TheBanditoLad
@TheBanditoLad 4 жыл бұрын
J, Parkin not on cod it isn’t, we haven’t got the best netcode for it. Many people are in 100+ ping lobbies. Get a grip and wake up as to why people are against it.
@TaxidermyRatOWL
@TaxidermyRatOWL 4 жыл бұрын
J, Parkin not everyone wants to play competitively in pubs every time they turn the game on. It’s misery using off meta weapons when you have a 2.5+ KD or so. But wait I’m assuming you probably get nukes with your eyes closed while playing with your toes right?
@petemonster
@petemonster 4 жыл бұрын
@@snowclone5650 yes sbmm is normal, however, strong sbmm is in this game and that is the argument
@quickestturtlez5362
@quickestturtlez5362 4 жыл бұрын
The most important thing this video taught me, is that the uzi still needs a huge buff. Straight garbungo.
@Cairo98_
@Cairo98_ 4 жыл бұрын
😂 Facts. MP5 and P90 are the best. Haven't unlocked MP7 yet might change my opinion.
@quickestturtlez5362
@quickestturtlez5362 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cairo98_ MP7 is great but i do think the MP5 and P90 are better.
@Cairo98_
@Cairo98_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@quickestturtlez5362 MP5 suppressed is a laser.
@normalmansupreme2371
@normalmansupreme2371 4 жыл бұрын
I’m mainly worried since the devs haven’t really done anything to listen to player feedback on this issue or even acknowledge it in any real form
@m0lders322
@m0lders322 4 жыл бұрын
The game's barely been out for a month, I believe that they're actively listening and trying to improve the game. So far it's had better support and patches than BO4, and I think they'll keep this up.
@yousuckatcod
@yousuckatcod 7 ай бұрын
@@m0lders322this made me lol
@luridftwgaming8983
@luridftwgaming8983 4 жыл бұрын
Why would they develop the game to help the noobs so much if they’re in a “protected” bracket anyway... I agree with your opinion on this completely. Thanks for all the maths you put into these videos. I don’t think there is anyone else who contributes to this like you do. Maybe someone should add information from this channel, and other credible channels, to the wiki for the game if that’s your thing.
@levig6238
@levig6238 4 жыл бұрын
The protected status drops off at an extremely low level. If you've gone positive a few times in your first 5-10 games you're probably out of that bracket.
@HadesWTF
@HadesWTF 4 жыл бұрын
The solution is to just add a ranked mode.
@Ololz22
@Ololz22 4 жыл бұрын
How is that a solution if this SBMM is the same in casual? You think people won't tryhard in casual because a ranked mode exists? If so: you're wrong.
@NocturnalNick
@NocturnalNick 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ololz22 Adding a ranked playlist means getting rid of ELO in casual. And sure there will be pub stompers here and there, but generally if someone wants to tryhard they also want something to show for it and increase their rank, as well as win matches and not be being dragged down by low skill teammates. Competitive lobbies do indeed attract competitive players, and it solves the problem of the game punishing you for trying to get better in a casual setting, or if you're good you can just play a few games without worrying about your stats
@theadamgore6114
@theadamgore6114 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Ololz22 People *will* still tryhard on a social mode no doubt, But the key difference is they'd be *random* tryhards. Not people at the same level as you every single time. RIP k/d if you wanna unlock *non-meta* weapon attachments. God forbid you wanna play with a friend that is either better *or* worse than you are at the game. Cod: MW = ( Low Ping < Sweat ) SBMM has a legitimate place for sure, but there should be non-ranked playlists as well.
@duranarts
@duranarts 4 жыл бұрын
No
@Zack-504
@Zack-504 4 жыл бұрын
That's in the game actually, its not on the menu yet because there were bugs major bugs involving infinite experience
@jonathanmatos714
@jonathanmatos714 4 жыл бұрын
First time i want to quit on COD... I’m not having fun with the game at all
@dylanmason1867
@dylanmason1867 4 жыл бұрын
I am but I gotta day the 6v6 maps need more
@truedps8
@truedps8 4 жыл бұрын
Then quit? Why continue playing if you are not having fun rofl?
@chavvyboy69
@chavvyboy69 4 жыл бұрын
Same, this game is a chore to play.
@bearjack3629
@bearjack3629 4 жыл бұрын
@@truedps8 you forget people have nothing going on in their lives. waiting for this Cod to be released is everything to them. Its litterally the only thing they try at and succeed. I can understand the heartache of such a big game being a flop. it doesnt make sense and we all know it but thats humans for ya.
@TR-ju5re
@TR-ju5re 4 жыл бұрын
@@bearjack3629 Yea my life boring AF at the moment so this really was a downer lol. Rural living got me f**ked up haha
@schumeliernst8060
@schumeliernst8060 4 жыл бұрын
SBMM was not in every cod in the old Days it was Totaly Random and that was the best
@schumeliernst8060
@schumeliernst8060 4 жыл бұрын
John vandenheuvel bo4 in the First Month was Amazing it had the potential to be the best cod on this Gen But they ruined it for a couple of reasons
@KingStretch35
@KingStretch35 4 жыл бұрын
Yea man those were the good days rip to those 😪
@eternal7857
@eternal7857 4 жыл бұрын
John vandenheuvel yeah battlefront 2 is awesome now
@TheKitt12
@TheKitt12 4 жыл бұрын
COD4 Was the OG now we get sweat lords im lvl40 and i get matched with lvl70+ tryhards, i have a .91kd and i play against ppl with 2+kd and im thinking of abandoning this game
@solaimanwahab5286
@solaimanwahab5286 4 жыл бұрын
@@schumeliernst8060 what are those reasons?
@nellyproductions4250
@nellyproductions4250 4 жыл бұрын
When the game makes a “safe zone” for bad players, and then they implemented strict skill-based matchmaking
@magnuminferno1947
@magnuminferno1947 4 жыл бұрын
So throw your kd for 5 games play 1 for fun then throw 5 again got it
@rifie1495
@rifie1495 4 жыл бұрын
thats 2 iq tho. do that on a smurf. then go on ur main and add all the ppl u just played in ur 0.2kd lobby and keep joining their games. how do u think youtubers get 3 nukes a day while having 3+ kd? they join the bots they just played against on their 0.2kd account
@captainmacmillan1752
@captainmacmillan1752 4 жыл бұрын
Im sorry but when you enjoy a game only 20% of the time you might wanna consider playing another game. Unless youre playing cod as your job theres no point in torturing yourself by playing a game you dont enjoy.
@snow600
@snow600 4 жыл бұрын
You might as well just play bot matches if you can only have fun owning literal 13 year olds. Fucking embarrassing, just admit you don't want to play a balanced game and instead need to have fun at the expense of others.
@slamminx3
@slamminx3 4 жыл бұрын
You don’t need to. It does it for you 😃
@Snickarz1337
@Snickarz1337 4 жыл бұрын
@@rifie1495 300 iq move: just play with someone who is shit all the time bam enjoy your lobbies
@MavicAVF
@MavicAVF 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone is average in terms of stats, but literally everyone is good in this game, every lobby i get into the enemies react in -12 years
@rolandcraggs348
@rolandcraggs348 4 жыл бұрын
Hows your internet connection? Watch the killcams and you'll probably see that while it looked like you got shots on target in the kill cam you were shot in the back. It's not just ping, there's throttled upload speeds and packet loss to consider. If your upload speed is bad your actions aren't getting to the server before they've dropped you. I have 4Mb/s and only 400Kb/s up, so although it looks like I drill the enemy and get hitmarkers, in the kill cam I barely get a shot off and they miss 😭
@smizdeazy
@smizdeazy 4 жыл бұрын
@@rolandcraggs348 I think the point here has to do with there being a hidden ranking system. Hence why there is no correlation between overall k/d in any given lobby despite getting wildly different types of matches every so often from casual to sweaty and getting wrecked in an instant. Also killcams in cod are notoriously inaccurate.
@rolandcraggs348
@rolandcraggs348 4 жыл бұрын
@@smizdeazy the ranking system isn't 'hidden', it's just too complex to reverse engineer, the reason you get wildly different matches is there are a low number of matches for the algorithm to work with. The SBMM will get better the longer it's used. There's no correlation to overall K/D because it's irrelevant. The algorithm goes off your K/D on Xx map in Yy gamemode, taking into account your K/D against the average of the lobby in the last 5, maybe more games of the same mode on the same map. You can blame the CoD killcams and SBMM if you want, but nothing is ever that simple.
@notxvexorr4379
@notxvexorr4379 4 жыл бұрын
@@rolandcraggs348 how's the net code?? It's not the players it's the servers
@smizdeazy
@smizdeazy 4 жыл бұрын
@@rolandcraggs348 don't act like you know the algorithm with all that BS. You were the one that brought up killcams and I was pointing out they are not, and have NEVER been 100% accurate, cod devs say this over the years. Why I was telling you not to trust them
@brycewallace1856
@brycewallace1856 4 жыл бұрын
I straight up miss the days where I could play to win but also mess around without feeling like I’m pulling my eyes out every time. I want to try stupid builds, troll enemies, get wrecked and do the wrecking. It’s just not fun playing your damned hardest 24/7
@TheRealKingLeopoldII
@TheRealKingLeopoldII 4 жыл бұрын
It's concerning that the devs haven't even adressed SBMM
@gustavs5237
@gustavs5237 4 жыл бұрын
King Leopold II of Belgium they made the game for casuals and very bad players, they dont want to admit the truth to that playerbase, that they are being guarded from playing good people
@dustinsteck11
@dustinsteck11 4 жыл бұрын
Oh thank god! I thought he was gonna lie and say there was no SBMM or defend it. Im so happy he is on my side with it! great vid my man
@scottyee707
@scottyee707 4 жыл бұрын
I should thank IW for breaking my addiction to COD
@gstarricstar0118
@gstarricstar0118 4 жыл бұрын
Scott Free same man. What they have done here is completely kill it for me.
@je6698
@je6698 4 жыл бұрын
This is the truth. Playing this cod is like taking out the trash, or mowing the lawn. You want to enjoy it, but its impossible.
@niklas4830
@niklas4830 4 жыл бұрын
@@je6698 tell me pls, u rly tryin to have fun while taking out the trash.. ?
@lisserkc6000
@lisserkc6000 4 жыл бұрын
@@niklas4830 you arent?
@el_cutchiloco7686
@el_cutchiloco7686 4 жыл бұрын
@@lisserkc6000 no one is
@CyDoneTV
@CyDoneTV 4 жыл бұрын
"There's never really been an issue with SBMM in COD before" *Laughs in Advanced Warfare*
@SlaveKnightGael
@SlaveKnightGael 4 жыл бұрын
No one plays that game, we skipped that title
@Zack-504
@Zack-504 4 жыл бұрын
right? i thought he was droning on about some non-sense. oh wait he is.
@vivalavega01
@vivalavega01 4 жыл бұрын
We don't talk about that game
@somersetlax
@somersetlax 4 жыл бұрын
Advanced warfare much more fun and faced paced then this bullshit game
@kvery1932
@kvery1932 4 жыл бұрын
@@somersetlax i bet you use the 725🤣🤣
@vsChris
@vsChris 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I remember when I first started playing CoD back in WAW. I was getting curb stomped for that 3/4s of the game cycle lol In MW2 I was a little better, and every game release I noticed myself getting better and better. It was such a satisfying feeling. The hand holding that some of these dev teams do, while understandable, it sucks the fun out of public matches.
@BruceCL215
@BruceCL215 4 жыл бұрын
I’m def agreeing with you here. I played on my sons account to help him level up. He’s a lower level (8) when I started and I’m a 90. I started going HAM on his account and got him to a level 24 in few hours and then all of a sudden I’m in lobbies with players 123 and up as a 24 and got fuggin demolished lol! This was all ok shoot house and 20 man domination. Saw the biggest jump in the shoot house. So you’re spot on!
@fusionsniping3741
@fusionsniping3741 4 жыл бұрын
Even me, I'm more average, kd 1 to 1.2 depending on cod, the only thing I see is people camping and in power positions so
@danielcryingheadkickcormie3857
@danielcryingheadkickcormie3857 4 жыл бұрын
1kd isn't average imo
@dreymarco1447
@dreymarco1447 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Crying Head Kick Cormier p4p Jon's Bitch not anymore at least
@kensapartmenttours1594
@kensapartmenttours1594 4 жыл бұрын
FusionSniping and those people usually use M4 and 725. The number of times I died to those two weapons are just disgusting. Like Ace said in the video there’s no variety
@samueladams3569
@samueladams3569 4 жыл бұрын
same, im by no means a "highly skilled player". kd is 1.1 atm, and thats where i usually am in any given cod. but my lobbies are awful, all camping and power positions. i have to run overkill with the m4 and 725 to not just get melted constantly. it sucks, i want to dick around with throwing knives and try out all the subs, maybe shoot rockets at ppl and its just not possible in these lobbies.
@samueladams3569
@samueladams3569 4 жыл бұрын
@@kensapartmenttours1594 it sucks but in my lobbies i feel like i cant win a gun fight without those weapons, cause you can bet your ass the guy shooting at me is using an m4, and if im not shooting back with one, im fucked.
@DanielSmith-vg5zj
@DanielSmith-vg5zj 4 жыл бұрын
I’m on the fence here, I’m an average player and whilst I think it’s a good thing to be pushed most games and have competitive games, sometimes it’s nice to just play casually rather than it be a sweat fest. I’ve also noticed that my friends who are below average, do well on their own but get destroyed in games with me so it does spoil their enjoyment.
@simocaste1
@simocaste1 4 жыл бұрын
The craziest thing is that they have implemented a ranked and a casual mode in Cod mobile, and right now, it's way more fun to play than the actual Modern Warfare. I play with my friends and enjoy basically every game mode there is, it's very casual unless you go in the top end of the ranked mode. It's beyond me how they didn't implement the same thing in the actual game, there is literally no reason for that.
@QbanViking
@QbanViking 4 жыл бұрын
Hey this may be the answer why we get a new lobby every game, to match you with how you did last game!?!?
@billy2937
@billy2937 4 жыл бұрын
DMIAmiPunisher I’ve been saying this for a while
@mrsuarez9968
@mrsuarez9968 4 жыл бұрын
And thats why i have to wait 40 seconds just to get into a lobby
@keiran1439
@keiran1439 4 жыл бұрын
40 seconds? Nice. Most of my games take 3-5 minutes to get into. Yes, I've spent an entire night timing them, the only time I got in a game under 3 minutes was when I got absolutely shit on in a game and decided to not leave.
@madeinnola
@madeinnola 4 жыл бұрын
I only have a 1.28 & I still play sweats all day, plus the randoms on my team just give away vtol jets
@msm5146
@msm5146 4 жыл бұрын
Ofcourse your kd isnt that high because when you start getting better you get matched vs better players so its hard to get a good kd
@YeNZeC
@YeNZeC 4 жыл бұрын
Struggling to hold a 1.8kd. Only rank 60 but this game is a joke. I don't want to be punished for being good. I literally run around like a headless chicken and what i have found is my connection is ok for the first match, due to the game not caring too much about skill level, the higher the lobby the higher ping. This must be an issue for other players. Not everyone has a 1gigabite internet provider like youtubers.
@XboxgamerZ
@XboxgamerZ 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 1.34 kd in this game now it's only 1.19 bcs I always get sweaty camp noob lobbies...
@wesmel06
@wesmel06 4 жыл бұрын
I'm currently 1.05 as far as my kd. I'll have games where I go 20-9 or 19-1 and then immediately after have games where I'm going 8-13 or something similar due to being spawn trapped/killed over and over. It is so freaking annoying. I've spawned just a few feet from an enemy before. Absolutely ridiculous! One time I spawned so close to the enemy that had just killed me that he 725 spawn killed me 3 times in a row. No time to react at all.
@redthorne1129
@redthorne1129 4 жыл бұрын
@@YeNZeC Did you miss the part where the SBMM has NOTHING to do with connection? Also, internet speed has virtually nothing to do with it. Generally you use less than 1 Mb download/upload when playing these kinds of games. It's all about distance to other players and servers. This proved that the distance doesn't get worse as you get in sweatier lobbies.
@jebalitabb8228
@jebalitabb8228 4 жыл бұрын
I just want them to take it out. I’m fine not being as good as these “just adapt bro” guys but it’s not fun anymore. I’ve had more fun unlocking new weapons in bo4 than anything in this game for days now
@jebalitabb8228
@jebalitabb8228 4 жыл бұрын
Xander Park Are you too dumb to do it yourself? Go ask your mom for grocery money
@m0lders322
@m0lders322 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, it's pretty bad in sweaty lobbies. But in my oppinion the mounting feature adds extremely to the "tactical adapting player" situation. Luckily I have a friend that has a lower score, so I can at least achieve something whilst playing with him :)
@jebalitabb8228
@jebalitabb8228 4 жыл бұрын
M0lders I wish mounting wasn’t in the game, or at the very least ghost worked like it does in black ops games. My K/D is trash yet I still get put against tryhards nonstop lol
@solaimanwahab5286
@solaimanwahab5286 4 жыл бұрын
Marry me 😍
@justj5665
@justj5665 4 жыл бұрын
I'm new to the game started playing yesterday. I was calling in Vitols, copper gunners wondering why people hated this game. 5 hours of play time later and I'm struggling level 155's apon 155's and I'm only level 52
@Alickaard1990
@Alickaard1990 4 жыл бұрын
My friends literally won’t play with me anymore cause the matchmaking is aweful for them.
@timofaust1315
@timofaust1315 4 жыл бұрын
My friends started playing it because it has SBMM and we finally not getting nonstop KS farmed by people who play shooters all the time. This coin has both sides.
@lonleybeer
@lonleybeer 4 жыл бұрын
Same with my friend he backed out 😥
@randymarsh4748
@randymarsh4748 4 жыл бұрын
@@timofaust1315 get good
@AngrySecs
@AngrySecs 4 жыл бұрын
@@xxxxxxxmatthew someone with a family and working all day who only gets to play a couple hours here and there should just get good? Or should they just not play all together? Moron
@OnlyHighlights
@OnlyHighlights 4 жыл бұрын
@@randymarsh4748 Fuck lil peep ur a dogshit player
@ThatGuyRiich
@ThatGuyRiich 4 жыл бұрын
It's like everything you say in this video is a monologue of my thoughts.
@ToTheBase
@ToTheBase 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously!! I just forwarded the video to a buddy of mine as I was trying to explain my experience up to this point. Ace, as always, has hit the nail square on this one. Couldn’t possibly have explained the frustration any better then this.
@ThatGuyRiich
@ThatGuyRiich 4 жыл бұрын
@@ToTheBase Yeah dude, he's a man of the people.
@ActuallyAudacity
@ActuallyAudacity 4 жыл бұрын
12:39 I'm definitely in higher skill lobbies lmao. I get everyone going overkill smg shotgun, gold m4s and gold AKs and everyone camping and getting VTOL
@ShinyStarOfDeath
@ShinyStarOfDeath 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@Capodecamper
@Capodecamper 4 жыл бұрын
that dosnt change if u boost
@ShinyStarOfDeath
@ShinyStarOfDeath 4 жыл бұрын
Capodecamper Not sure what you mean, how can you boost if match makings are random. You cannot choose your friend as opposition.
@ActuallyAudacity
@ActuallyAudacity 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShinyStarOfDeath with the research they did, if you tank your KD by either killing yourself 50 times per game or by playing a shit weapon and dying multiple times, and having a less than 1 kd for 5 games, you get placed in bot lobbies for the next 5 games
@paulsletten8985
@paulsletten8985 3 жыл бұрын
XclusiveAce is the best Cod Tuber I've watched. Not because he's got the best trigger finger or aim but because he explains stuff to noobs like me and I learn and get better after watching the videos. Ace is always a legend to me.
@ps1746
@ps1746 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. Now there’s no more speculation or infinity ward trying to pretend it’s not a thing.
@aslamc9288
@aslamc9288 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, Ace’s opinion section totally tracks with my experiences. Every time I get the feeling I’m getting the hang of the game, I start to suck again and my stats drop hard. It must have been painstaking to get this data, Ace. Great job and great video.
@blade9038
@blade9038 4 жыл бұрын
Don't worry you'll get better, if you don't have the time it'll be tough but eventually you will get better, I suggest picking a few select weapons and sticking with them till you're aim and game sense has improved a lot (if you haven't already stuck with a few guns) rather than going from gun to gun
@djzanis5220
@djzanis5220 4 жыл бұрын
“It’s a casual game mode” 8:40
@speerkz677
@speerkz677 4 жыл бұрын
DJ Žanis lmao thought i was the only one that noticed
@SpeedZoneX
@SpeedZoneX 4 жыл бұрын
Our game mode is casual, pros have a different version. I don't get your comment.
@speerkz677
@speerkz677 4 жыл бұрын
trx. At 8:40 there’s a guy that’s shooting his body. and this equals a try hard lol
@SpeedZoneX
@SpeedZoneX 4 жыл бұрын
@@speerkz677 I did't noticed at first. Thanks :d
@ghsteagle5567
@ghsteagle5567 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, I did notice the difference, I’m low skill at the moment and notice when on my own I do better and when playing with my buddy whose high skilled I just get annihilated. So I 110% agree with you!
@dannybtw
@dannybtw 4 жыл бұрын
GhstEagle 556 when I'm playing I do ok. Nothing too special. When I play with my friend whose better than me I swear I'm going against players who snort energy drinks and it's terrible
@mjc24
@mjc24 4 жыл бұрын
i can't play MW for more than a few games in a row and continue to have fun. the grind of non-stop sweaty lobbies is just too much and has no place in COD.
@s379Ox
@s379Ox 4 жыл бұрын
Same, I get off of work, hop on for 2 games where I have fun and then I literally can't get a kill because the new lobbies are filled with players that possess super human reactions and are likely on 60mg of Adderall. I could start sweating with them but I'm too tired from work and just want to mindlessly kill people..... nope. Not allowed.
@d-f-o7233
@d-f-o7233 4 жыл бұрын
Make ranked playlist to play sweaty games. Get rid of sbmm in casual
@silversnow3171
@silversnow3171 4 жыл бұрын
True that, ranked playlist was for those players that wanted a challenge with others; kept the causal and nubs in regular playlist.
@PrevailArmy
@PrevailArmy 4 жыл бұрын
@@silversnow3171 I dont see why this is so hard for devs to understand..
@silversnow3171
@silversnow3171 4 жыл бұрын
@@PrevailArmy Guess they think MW is a Roman rule in the Colosseum to just kill everybody and everything in existence with numerous methods just to stay on top. I think Gerald said it best in Gladiator, "Are YOu NoT ENterTaIn!!!????"
@Marsbesweatin
@Marsbesweatin 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I HATE using the same meta weapons, mp7 mp5, m4a1, and the 725. Some guns like the origin 12 I want to enjoy using it, but compared to other guns, its just not viable. I have it gold too.
@PrevailArmy
@PrevailArmy 4 жыл бұрын
@@Marsbesweatin I know what you mean, personally been using the kilo, got it gold. But No doubt the M4 Runs this game, along with the 725, even with 2 nerfs, which the last nerf actually buffed it.. The M4 is better then every smg, even close range. I could go on and on
@ARCrusader
@ARCrusader 4 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY THIS. I've repeated your ending comments almost verbatim during early discussions about SBMM. So rewarding to see this after dozens of people telling me all I want is to win without trying.
@elliotbauer4567
@elliotbauer4567 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this. I couldn’t agree more. 1) my friends don’t want to play with me anymore because I make them play against harder teams. That is so counter productive to producing a good in game experience 2) they need to stop switching up the lobbies also. I can’t tell you how many times I have lost a close one and not had the chance at redemption. Those are two of my favorite things about COD. they should realize other games are promoting playing with friends. This game only promotes playing with friends of your equal skill level ...
@jayceewilliams5250
@jayceewilliams5250 4 жыл бұрын
Never really thought about disabled gamers
@kinglos3004
@kinglos3004 4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@HearMeLearn
@HearMeLearn 4 жыл бұрын
disabled gamers rise up
@CJ4YRD
@CJ4YRD 4 жыл бұрын
Guarantee they are better than half my team I get stuck with not moving out of their spawn
@paulnoel1383
@paulnoel1383 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sure the comment was innocent, however it was very inappropriate. Suggesting people with disabilities is poor form, although I don’t think it was a deliberate thing
@CJ4YRD
@CJ4YRD 4 жыл бұрын
It may not be appropriate but Stephen hawking can work a joystick better than half these mongs I play with
@morsecode5078
@morsecode5078 4 жыл бұрын
“Very little incentive to want to improve at the game.” -> Exactly
@mrsuarez9968
@mrsuarez9968 4 жыл бұрын
So true, when i play i feel enemies have wallhack.
@MAC2legion
@MAC2legion 4 жыл бұрын
No Incentive at all. Sbmm is the worst thing ever
@cartmanschili
@cartmanschili 4 жыл бұрын
Feel the same. I kept dying one match. Must of gone 6 and 17. Everytime I died I said " ok this is good" when you say that to yourself, there's a fucking problem.
@morsecode5078
@morsecode5078 4 жыл бұрын
cartmanschili I do the same thing. Get in a match with better players and basically hope to die a lot so that I’ll get an easier game next. It really is a problem.
@kentchr76
@kentchr76 4 жыл бұрын
So true indeed.
@sublimesubaru2857
@sublimesubaru2857 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more man, thanks for your hard work. I'm really really really tired of playing against people who only use MP5, M4, 725/Riotshield, and now the GRAU it's so hard to have fun when these people refuse to use any other weapons, then I'm forced to use them. I hate SBMM so much, I agree with ACE that new players should have a safe space, but after 10 matches that's it.
@metallaro83
@metallaro83 4 жыл бұрын
I've bought the game a month later, used to be a pubstomper with 3 kd, now im just a bot. Thank you SBMM
@ZzSeaSniperzZ
@ZzSeaSniperzZ 4 жыл бұрын
People should absolutely be able to opt in and out just like crossplay.
@ryanwilson1466
@ryanwilson1466 4 жыл бұрын
opt in = to choose ranked playlist // opt out = to choose casual public match. There's no reason to have this as a setting lmao.
@Dsggh523
@Dsggh523 4 жыл бұрын
How do you opt out of cross play ?
@ZzSeaSniperzZ
@ZzSeaSniperzZ 4 жыл бұрын
Tom12409 I believe it’s in game settings under the account tab last I checked
@chriskindler10
@chriskindler10 4 жыл бұрын
the downfall of this game are the wrong design choices. I have zero interest in playing this game anymore. finished
@harveybrewis5113
@harveybrewis5113 4 жыл бұрын
you honestly couldn't have made a better video, very well researched and shares the exact same ideals as the genuine cod community not 8yr old who headglitch backspawn thinking their good at the game because SBMM shields them from going negative and actually putting in the work like everyone else
@tinfoilsays
@tinfoilsays 4 жыл бұрын
I'm curious about how this is implemented. I was leveling up my magnum today (both to get snake shot to see how it is and completing challenges/missions/ribbons) and while playing with my son (who is a much better player than me) in shoot house I would be lucky to get beyond single digits in kills in a match (and half of those from mines/claymores). Immediately following while playing on my own with the same setup in the same game modes my kills and score more than doubled. Not the top of the list, but also leveling a pistol and not running a normal setup. Granted, when I use my normal setups I can do fair in his lobbies (middle of the pack instead of consistently last) whereas in my own lobbies I'm consistently top 1-2 with a normal setup. It's interesting to say the least.
@Vaughndo
@Vaughndo 4 жыл бұрын
Also like to add that appreciate the efforts in collecting data in this video I know it was tedious work.
@HvCAsuka
@HvCAsuka 4 жыл бұрын
I miss be an average joe haha, now the game thinks im a pro player or something my lobbys are crazy so Hard I play 1 or 2 matches and im done 💔
@jonathanmatos714
@jonathanmatos714 4 жыл бұрын
Same... I was just playing after 5 days of not playing and after 3 matches i was done
@MADDOXXXbr
@MADDOXXXbr 4 жыл бұрын
same here
@Sirenz187
@Sirenz187 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you're getting put in lobby's with bad players but you're just really bad so you get stomped
@tylerdurden1996xd
@tylerdurden1996xd 4 жыл бұрын
Well said! The drive to improve is lost with this system. I watched this video to learn why I felt that I was getting better, but it was not evident in my score after matches through time. I now understand thanks to you. The developers should really listen to experienced and educated players like you. Or better yet, hire you as a consultant haha. Again, thanks.
@shane1489
@shane1489 4 жыл бұрын
Hearing this and comparing it to my live experience explains a lot. I’m literally just gave this game away. Not playing games that only exist to frustrate.
@marktaekema3174
@marktaekema3174 4 жыл бұрын
6:27 Wow a match that actually reached the score limit and not the time limit! First time I’ve seen that in a regular multiplayer match!
@Repparansho
@Repparansho 4 жыл бұрын
U already know it's the sbmm putting the m4a1 725 spammers that camp all game into their own lobbies. When I 1st got the game every match ended relatively quick, not anymore tho.
@marktaekema3174
@marktaekema3174 4 жыл бұрын
Randy Rodriguez Exactly as Ace said, you get a worse experience the better you get
@ZumaB
@ZumaB 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny. There will be a comment that will definitely be in your section that'll say hurr durr hasn't happened to me. But like I've seen a comment like yours, which I agree with, much much more than the opposite side.
@marktaekema3174
@marktaekema3174 4 жыл бұрын
Zuma B I bet. On Reddit those kind of responses are more common.
@anthonyh5641
@anthonyh5641 4 жыл бұрын
This game is borderline unplayable at this current time
@seancccccccc
@seancccccccc 4 жыл бұрын
Correct
@Hc4697
@Hc4697 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony H amen
@6syns214
@6syns214 4 жыл бұрын
Facts. Just isn’t fun at all. Sbmm is cancer to games.
@norussian556
@norussian556 4 жыл бұрын
this gameplay is the sweatiest most stressful shit ive seen all week
@nabrzhunter
@nabrzhunter 4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t think I could be persuaded against SBMM, but you presented some very persuasive arguments, and I have to agree, even looking back on my days of getting pubstomped. I really did have to start reconsidering my approach to gameplay and adjust accordingly to improve. Thanks as always for you hard work.
@zachwharton11
@zachwharton11 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that reverse boosting exists is all the proof need to show that sbmm exists.
@Dean0ne
@Dean0ne 4 жыл бұрын
it was never the question if it existed, instead it's important to know how strong it affects the game.
@daves4678
@daves4678 4 жыл бұрын
I've said it since the beta and I will say it again... SBMM will kill this game. Not too soon but it is certain to happen.
@petemonster
@petemonster 4 жыл бұрын
And it is killing fortnite rn.
@fluffyunicorn3907
@fluffyunicorn3907 4 жыл бұрын
Dave S it's already killing it
@TFLdotcom
@TFLdotcom 4 жыл бұрын
it already killed it for me. And I'm a super loyal fan thats learned to love every single call of duty since cod2. I refuse to play this game until SBMM is toned down to what it has always been
@Xplicid
@Xplicid 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve already uninstalled. CSGO just released a new operation :) fuck Ashton the mutt
@gstarricstar0118
@gstarricstar0118 4 жыл бұрын
Iam finished with the game until they put SBMM back to what we are use to playing with
@lukelyons9606
@lukelyons9606 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Halo has a really good system with regard to a ranking system. At least when you struggle in Halo you know it's because you're in a lobby with equally matched players and you're not second guessing your ping or sanity. A split to complete casual and ranked makes a lot of sense.
@kyledickerson9700
@kyledickerson9700 4 жыл бұрын
Well put Ace! Agree with every point you made here. Hopefully they address this soon. It’s getting pretty aggravating going against MP5 and M4 combos time and time again. If i don’t sweat, I feel as if I’m at an immediate disadvantage. That gets tiresome after a while. Glad to see you speaking up about this!
@LDNRNG27
@LDNRNG27 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a proud disabled ♿ gamer ♿ I only use underbarrel grenade launchers
@matthewbailey5953
@matthewbailey5953 4 жыл бұрын
The game literally punishes you for getting good 💀
@jacoblthesheriff9022
@jacoblthesheriff9022 4 жыл бұрын
I don't see how playing someone of a higher skill level is a punishment.
@gamerguy6990
@gamerguy6990 4 жыл бұрын
Jacob L you now have to play the way that they do and because of the way the game is designed to promote camping you basically have to camp as well
@HearMeLearn
@HearMeLearn 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacoblthesheriff9022 you have to try 4 times as hard to get the same performance otherwise you'll get curbstomped every single game
@alexanderreyes3356
@alexanderreyes3356 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacoblthesheriff9022 Yea but what if you join an entire lobby full of people who got their high stats only due to camping?
@jacoblthesheriff9022
@jacoblthesheriff9022 4 жыл бұрын
@@gamerguy6990 People have been camping in call of duty since it started. For me that's just a free kill. I know your location and where you're aiming your gun. I'll always uproot a camper. There's tons of variety with players. And if we're talking average skill level it's gone up across the board for years. Everyone has been placed in a higher bracket whether you realize it or not. The average player's skill since the first MW has gone up drastically. Do you know why? Because people have been playing/practicing for over 10 years! The players from 2008 would be stomped by the majority of players today.
@johnperrone657
@johnperrone657 4 жыл бұрын
I'm an average player, and every single time I play against people 10x better than me, it gets to the point where I'm dying faster than I can even shoot my shotgun. I never get put into normal lobbies, and I have not gone positive in 20 games, and only one two of them. I feel as if my money has been wasted.
@punimarudogaman
@punimarudogaman 4 жыл бұрын
instead of skill, they should base the match making on gameplay time. It is the best way to provide a balance between "not discouraging newbies" and "not facing pro players all the time"
@tomkesner8467
@tomkesner8467 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on Ace! Great analysis and review! Would like to see some SERIOUS changes in the SBMM like you mentioned. This current algorithm just blows chunks!
@Muj_7
@Muj_7 4 жыл бұрын
The Shoot House gameplay in the background is fitting 😅
@CriticalThinking88
@CriticalThinking88 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100%. After the first week the game was incredibly less fun because of this. I'm a decent player and all I want to do at the end of my day is relax and have fun while doing decently and I have no desire to spend several hours a day to become a top player. I have a demanding career and COD has always been an enjoyable past time until recently. Until there are changes made to SBMM and camera angles, I'm moving on to something else.
@crimsonstripes
@crimsonstripes 4 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in seeing the p-values of these statistics after being run through a linear regression on Excel or IBM SPSS.
@im2rawxx363
@im2rawxx363 4 жыл бұрын
Kaleb Roland watch driftor video
@buddybleeyes
@buddybleeyes 4 жыл бұрын
This is spot on!! IW needs to take this out of core, and add a ranked playlist
@jonathanmatos714
@jonathanmatos714 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed... and ASAP before 60% of the fan base leaves
@buddybleeyes
@buddybleeyes 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanmatos714 completely agree, been sweating my ass off every game- and it's just not fun 😭 can't get decent frame rates with my gpu for groundwar yet- so mp only for me!
@318Ghost
@318Ghost 4 жыл бұрын
i can almost predict when it's gonna happen. Everything you said was pretty accurate. Really feels like it averages your K/D for the session, and you explained it wonderfully.
@BenJylovesJodii
@BenJylovesJodii 4 жыл бұрын
You can block your ip in game. And it starts on hidden. That's why you can't see where the lobby is playing from.
@brayden7649
@brayden7649 4 жыл бұрын
Simple solution... have a casual playlist with no elo, then a ranked playlist for those who wanna grind ranked
How Call of Duty is Killing its Community
24:30
TheXclusiveAce
Рет қаралды 164 М.
Schoolboy Runaway в реальной жизни🤣@onLI_gAmeS
00:31
МишАня
Рет қаралды 3,2 МЛН
My Cheetos🍕PIZZA #cooking #shorts
00:43
BANKII
Рет қаралды 27 МЛН
OMG what happened??😳 filaretiki family✨ #social
01:00
Filaretiki
Рет қаралды 12 МЛН
Was Skill Based Matchmaking Toned Down? (SBMM in Modern Warfare)
13:42
TheXclusiveAce
Рет қаралды 174 М.
Modern Warfare has a Camping Problem
16:41
TheXclusiveAce
Рет қаралды 701 М.
What Modern Warfare II Did RIGHT! | (Final Review Part 1)
13:20
TheXclusiveAce
Рет қаралды 52 М.
Did it Improve? | My Final Impressions of the Modern Warfare Beta!
21:48
MP5 Stats & Best Class Setups! | Modern Warfare Gun Guide #2
15:01
TheXclusiveAce
Рет қаралды 770 М.
Is Content Bloat a Real Issue with Modern Warfare III?
14:01
TheXclusiveAce
Рет қаралды 31 М.