Skill up: CLO Livesync for Unreal Engine

In this CLO workshop, you will get a quick introduction on how to bring CLO garments into Unreal Engine using the CLO LiveSync plugin:
· What is Unreal Engine?
· How to use CLO LiveSync - Workflow
· Create a Basic Environment in Unreal Engine
· MetaHuman in CLO - Workflow
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Note : If you do not see the Marketplace folder download the substance plugin first it will appear after

[@OficialMag]

Assertion failed: (Index >= 0) & (Index < ArrayNum) [File:C:\Program Files\Epic Games\UE_5.4\Engine\Source\Runtime\Core\Public\Containers\Array.h] [Line: 758] Array index out of bounds: 19 into an array of size 17 UnrealEditor_CLOLiveSyncEditor

[@CLO3D]

For help with the plugin please post to the questions section of the UE market place www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/913591014c744d838c4ea24e35f6f194/questions

[@senkdesign]

Thanks, but are we just completely ignoring the fact that the avatar is distorted? The hands are literally colliding into the legs?

[@CLO3D]

at what time in the video are you talking about?

[@ozlemmis5550]

This video is extremely useful, would love to see more content like this :)

[@Metarig]

Converting triangles to quads doesn't actually reduce the number of faces because CLO counts quads as single faces. However, each quad is made up of two triangles, and 3D applications only recognize these triangles, not the quads. So, you need to double the face count you see in CLO when working with quads to understand how many triangles you'll end up with in Unreal Engine.

[@CLO3D]

correct. Unreal can only import triangle meshes, so it can be confusing if working with quads in CLO and best practice to change to Triangle for Unreal

[@SaifulIslam-he6mb]

so excited

[@rafedalwani]

Thank you for this video. It was very useful. Your explanation was very clear and enjoyable.

[@CLO3D]

You're very welcome!

[@lifehorsesense3241]

Amazing tutorials ❤

[@germanrudecindo3382]

I'm having an issue when I try to export my metahuman animation sequence into Marvelous Designer using the Livesync, when I export it to marvelous I can see two meshes, only slightly bigger than the other, what can I do to fix this issue? it's the only part of the process where I have issues

[@CLO3D]

Sorry to hear you are having issues. You might want to reach out to MD specifically. You can do so on their Discord channel here; discord.gg/dtHg9dcmqU

[@fantastic3dfashion]

Hello!! i am making the animation from metahuman to animate in clo and bring it back... but once i bring the animated cloth to unreal it does not match anymore with the original animation from the metahuman..... do you know what may be wrong??

[@CLO3D]

If there is a mismatch between the metahuman and the garment through LiveSync, the AnimationBlueprint of the metahuman SkeletalMesh must be disabled. When using AnimBlueprint, the avatar structure is transformed inside UE.

[@Anonymous_Art3D]

Amazing tutorial....I have a question that is when I try to save the garment as geometry cache, it shows an warning like 'Memory not available' and then crashes during the update. Please help

[@CLO3D]

for that you will need to look at Unreal Engine support

[@imofox6380]

The avatar animation vs the garment animation are ever so slightly off - would this be to do with the frame rate or something else? Is there a way to fix this? Also the garment doesn't fit perfectly in unreal engine like it does in clo - perhaps the garment is too tightly fitting for this use case? Any solution?

[@CLO3D]

Hi. We would recommend reposting your question to the live sync market place question area www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/913591014c744d838c4ea24e35f6f194/questions

[@mylalam6510]

@CLO It's very strange. I followed all the steps, but when I got to the plugins section, I couldn't find the marketplace to paste my copied file. What should I do?

[@CLO3D]

download the Substance plug in first. It will appear then

[@amehyst]

Can I use this to create clothes for 3rd person playable characters or is it just for animations?

[@CLO3D]

yes. You may also want to check out the everywear demo - kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWjOoWWuhNV4sMk

[@adinanicola1029]

does the tutorial work for Clo3D as well?

[@RenneAvillis]

MIne is crashing Unreal, any solution?

[@CLO3D]

Hi. We would recommend reposting your question to the live sync market place question area www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/913591014c744d838c4ea24e35f6f194/questions

[@Ganeeshkar04]

Is it possible to transfer fur (render only) from CLO to Unreal using LiveSync???

[@CLO3D]

Currently no. Fur is only in CLO

[@andreabuttarini2485]

UE 5.4 > everything works fine until I synchronize and export metahuman to clo3d where I get two avatars overlapped and one slightly taller than the other one. Any thoughts on the possible issue?

[@CLO3D]

We would recommend using the Meta humans that are available directly in CLO library

[@andreabuttarini2485]

@@CLO3D Much easier in this way! Thanks

[@andreabuttarini2485]

@@CLO3D I followed your instructions. Everything is fine but when it's time to export the animation from Unreal to Clo the problem is still there with two avatar sizes overlapping. I think there is a bug in your plugin and without a fix is unusable. Or maybe is there a different way to match the avatar animation to the garment? Let us know

[@CLO3D]

Hi. For further help please reach out to us directly via the CONNECT Contact Us page

[@Raztal]

Same issue here with UE 5.4 and the plugin

[@ellasenemarfashiontherapy]

I dont have CLO plugin in my setting what should I do?

[@CLO3D]

Have you downloaded the correct version of the plugin that is compatible with your version of CLO support-connect.clo-set.com/hc/en-us/articles/9803777473295-LiveSync-version-archive

[@gingerleijones]

I'm on a Mac Book Pro M2 with CLO 2024 - I've installed the CLO2024 Live Sync edition , plus Substance. _ i noticed that for Mac there isn't Direct X to switch to 11 - 2 options 12. OS and 14 , - I've tried both options; The transparency setting checked too - so Unreal 3.2 appears all good with being active and installed. However, CLOLIVESYNC is not in the windows menu. I've restarted Unreal a few times and double checked both LS and SBT are checked as installed. Is Live Sync working / available for Mac users? I have CLO running in the background too. Thanks..

[@CLO3D]

Currently LiveSync is only for PC, but we hope to expand livesync in later versions support-connect.clo-set.com/hc/en-us/articles/8924222079631-Public-roadmap

[@gingerleijones]

@@CLO3D Noted. Looking forward to a speedy Mac release. Thank you.

[@elvismorellidigitalvisuala6211]

I have an UV problem if i make a static mesh, how to fix it???

[@CLO3D]

Hi. Since we don't know how the StaticMesh UV broke down, it's difficult to suggest an exact solution. However, since the part that changes regarding UV is likely to be the Unified option, it is recommended to change this option. Please also note we recommend joining either our Official CLO Discord or post to the CLO Community forums on our website for further help

[@adinanicola1029]

Can we transfer the garments in unreal engine and use them as avatars in a third person game? I can’t find any resources on that. Thanks

[@CLO3D]

Yes, Once you take them out of CLO you can use them however you choose to. You will likely want to look into Everywear by MD and CLO connect.clo-set.com/everywear

[@lengan2474]

I followed strictly step by step as your guidance but I faced the problem once syncing CLO in UE. The Unreal process has crashed with this bugs Fatal error: [File:D:\build\++UE5\Sync\Engine\Source\Runtime\Core\Private\GenericPlatform\GenericPlatformMemory.cpp] [Line: 251] Ran out of memory allocating 4710587262203550279 bytes with alignment 16. Last error msg: The parameter is incorrect.. Can you please kindly advise for this?

[@CLO3D]

Hi. For this you may need to head over to the Unreal Forums for more assistance. But just by copy + pasting the error above we found a thread you may find useful forums.unrealengine.com/t/i-cant-open-my-unreal-engine-projectsg/539944/2

[@lengan2474]

@@CLO3D Thank you for the advice. At 15:12 I'm only able to save as static mesh. Ca you pls advise how to setup for saving as Geometrycache?

[@mohammadbishalahmed8784]

@@CLO3D that is happening same with me i saw in unreal engine they didnt answer yet regarding this issue

[@yiwenshen5275]

Hi I have the same Issue, did you by any chance solve this problem? Thanks a lot !

[@mohammadbishalahmed8784]

@@yiwenshen5275 use previous verion of UE not latest version

[@chelymoalem]

I have been using it a few times (it's AMAZING!) but lately, I get an error message on the unreal engine (when pushing the clo3d button tab). Can you assist?😍😍😍

[@CLO3D]

Hi. We would recommend reposting your question to the live sync market place question area www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/913591014c744d838c4ea24e35f6f194/questions

[@chelymoalem]

@@CLO3D Perfect! Thank you😍😍😍

[@kreamonz]

I was so glad when I found out about this plugin, but when I click the import to UE button inside the plugin, the UE just crashes and gives an error, but I have a fairly new i9 computer, 64 GB of RAM and a 4090 graphics card. So the problem is in the plugin or in the settings LoginId:10e866e24ae6e72039a034b288d4bae5 EpicAccountId:90129289f71e4703b0807ae4b2450795 Fatal error: [File:D:\build\++UE5\Sync\Engine\Source\Runtime\Core\Private\GenericPlatform\GenericPlatformMemory.cpp ] [Line: 251] Ran out of memory allocating 2078764171367 bytes with alignment 16. Last error msg: The swap file is too small to complete the operation..

[@CLO3D]

Please make sure that you have the correct version of UE and the plugin - support-connect.clo-set.com/hc/en-us/articles/9803777473295-LiveSync-version-archive

[@kreamonz]

@@CLO3D I have the latest version of clo individual 2024.0.250, the version of the UE in which I have been working for six months is 5.3.2, which version of the plugin should I install?

[@kreamonz]

@@CLO3D thanks for the hint, I downgraded the clo version and everything worked out.

[@aminmobin-wl5yj]

does livecync need internet connection?

[@CLO3D]

Yes. CLO requires the internet for logging and must also be open while UE is running

[@kuromisays]

the only option when I save is Static mesh and all the UV maps are saved individually so can't drag&drop my garment or my avatar

[@CLO3D]

You should not need to drag and drop at all. Make sure you have the correct version of both UE and livesync then follow the tutorial

[@МаргаритаБайбородова]

Is there a featuer to use custom footwear and underwear? It would be great to disable default Metahuman's slippers and underwear. Examples: 1. Any custom footwear 2. Characters in very open clothing where the metahuman's underwhere will interfere with the look 3. Highheels! These would also requier some fiddling with pose. Can you address that please? These questions are crucial to create complete looks

[@CLO3D]

No Meta human yet. But take a look at the CLO avatars

[@vidasoheili6052]

Can not wait

[@YCDesigns]

I just can't export metahuman to clo

[@CLO3D]

not yet

[@YCDesigns]

@CLO3D I meant that I couldn't export the Blank Metahuman avatar to CLO, always from error.

[@CLO3D]

the latest CLO update has a folder in the Avatar library which include Metahuman

[@blockschmidt]

I have a Metahuman with Morph Targets that increase the muscle size and overall volume of the body. When I use LiveLink to send the Methauman to Clo3D, it does not send the version with morph targets (which are seen as turned on in the viewport and the same Avatar Blueprint) but in Clo the 3D Avatar with less volume, with no body morph target activated gets exported. And I can simulate the garment and send it back to UE but of course it does not fit the more buffer Metahuman who has bigger size. How can I send the Metahuman with the turned on Morph Target to Clo via LiveLink?

[@CLO3D]

Hi! Morph Target data is not supported at the moment - Users will need to stick to the default 18 body types until LiveSync supports Morph Target data

[@blockschmidt]

@@CLO3D What is a workaround for me then? I have to use the avatar with the morph targets and the more muscular upper body for the project. Thank you

[@blockschmidt]

@@CLO3D + is there information on when custom morphs will be supported with this workflow :)?

[@CLO3D]

Sorry we do not have a release date as of yet

[@pelayojuanloli8173]

Hi, I get this error when I want to activate the liveSync plugin: failed to write output file ´../../users/Documents/unrealProjects/MyProjectis/Myprojectis.uproject´, perhaps the file is read-only?

[@CLO3D]

For Live Sync questions please post to the questions tab in the UE Marketplace. Thank you!

[@nileguiraud9983]

Amazing! quick question: I am following along to install. I don't have the marketplace folder in my plugins folder (windows) how can I fix this?

[@CLO3D]

If you download the substance plugin first it should appear after :)

[@nileguiraud9983]

@@CLO3D Thank you!

[@blockschmidt]

I arranged my UDIMs in Clo and exported my garment mesh as an OBJ to bring it to Substance Painter. With UDIM workflow I painted different areas of the mesh as desired in Substance. I exported my textures and now I am lost because the imported GeoCache Sim from the same Clo File, with the same UVs, which work in Substance, do not let me attach my custom substance textures to the geo cache mesh in UE. Are the UVs being erased with this livelink transfer from Clo to UE? Or how can I attach my custom textures from substance to the imported geo cache - i thought that the UVs are being maintained?

[@CLO3D]

This is meant to go from CLO to Unreal directly. If you also upload the substance plugin you should be editing in Unreal. No need to export as an OBJ to Substance

[@user-ur7ld2lq8b]

Can it work on Mac os?

[@CLO3D]

Currently the plugin is only for PC

[@germanmairen]

Unreal 5.3 crashes all the time and 5.4 doesn't work directly. Totally disappointed

[@CLO3D]

Have you checked to make sure your computer specs are all able to run both Epic and CLO. They are both heavy programs. Also, make sure to make sure your graphics card is up to date

[@sanjanapurohit1186]

After keeping Geometric cache in Environment in Unreal , some parts of my garments are looking transparent, although everything is looking fine in clo as well as in Clo plugin window of unreal, then why some parts are looking transparent? Please reply

[@CLO3D]

Hi. Please submit a ticket through our CONNECT platform for further assistance. When submitting please add screenshots and a project file if possible

[@CHiAOstudio1994]

Hi, I'm also experiencing a crash issue. Whenever I drag a static mesh avatar into the level, Unreal Engine immediately shuts down. My computer meets high standards in terms of configuration. How can I resolve this?

[@CLO3D]

Hi. Unfortunately we cannot tell the cause of the crash by just the above text - could you please send us a crash log and the detailed inquiry via CONNECT Contact Us page

[@nirgoeta]

hi there thanks for an amazing work flow, have a question i am woriking with substance texture plug in clo and when i import the garment to unreal he transfer it with the texture but with the original color textured and not the one i have changed it to ?

[@CLO3D]

I am sorry but we cannot answer questions about substance plugins. We would suggest finding a Substance/Unreal Engine forum for this

[@Blo555]

Hello! After reading the comments and not finding the Market Place Folder, if it doesn't appear in the Plugins Folder, how do I download the Substance plugin? ( windows)

[@Blo555]

It Worked; it needed to be Download as in the previous comment, Sorry For the confusion

[@Blo555]

What Happens if the Geometry cache option doesn't appear, only static Mesh?

[@CLO3D]

If the GeometryCache options is not activated, it means that the selected object does not have any simulated record data. If you record a simulation in CLO AnimationMode, this option will be activated. Please also note we recommend joining either our Official CLO Discord or post to the CLO Community forums on our website for further help

[@namratanihalani2992]

In am facing crash in that particular level, where I add garments using CLO Live sync, which is really upsetting as my whole work is stuck because of same. For which I have already given my commitment. Please help

[@CLO3D]

Have you checked to make sure your computer specs are all able to run both Epic and CLO. They are both heavy programs. Also, make sure to make sure your graphics card is up to date

[@thepossess3023]

This is AMAZING!!!! Thank You for this!

[@BlendaAverfalk]

When I try to restart Unreal after setting the plugin settings I get a error message saying "The ´CLOLiveSync` plugin was designed for build 5.4.0. Attempt to load it anyway?" but it is not possible to load. How can I fix it?

[@CLO3D]

Make sure that you have the newest version of CLO as well as the newest version of Live Sync downloaded

[@BlendaAverfalk]

@@CLO3D Thanks, updating to another Live Sync helped!

[@PhotoSlash]

Hey hi! Im getting problems on CLO when I import 500+ frames animations i get constant crashes from CLO. I have this 700 frames long animation and cant import it. Did you get similar issues? i cant import in three separated parts cuz i have dolly cameras targeted on the character and i lose them.

[@CLO3D]

We would recommend taking a look at your computers graphics card and update it if possible

[@ricr8987]

Hello! How do we change the shoes?

[@CLO3D]

in CLO? Would you like to change shoes that are on the avatar to something in the Library or are you looking to make your own shoes?

[@ricr8987]

@@CLO3D Hi, I would like to know both cases, if I export the metahuman to Clo and try to use a shoe I get the message "No matching Avatar" my metahuman have a flipflop. How can I create a shoe or use one from library on metahuman? Thank you :)

[@CLO3D]

CLO shoes will only work for CLO avatars. You will instead to need to make and register your own shoes for Meta

[@blockschmidt]

When Directx12? :)

[@CLO3D]

the graphics card?

[@blockschmidt]

@@CLO3D No, from my understanding the clo3d bridge relies on project settings of Unreal Engine with directx11 When using Methumans and functions such as e.g. Metahuman animator which only works within a directx12 project, the clo3d plugin restriction on needing directx11, comes in very limiting. Hence, I am curious if and when there will be a directx12 plugin based for the clo3d bridge. And I do not understand why its directx11 in the first place :) thank you

[@CLO3D]

Hi. We would recommend reposting your question to the live sync market place question area www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/913591014c744d838c4ea24e35f6f194/questions

[@designnclimb]

What to do if there's no Market Place inside Plugins when I try to paste clo livesync???

[@CLO3D]

Download the Substance Plug in first. It will appear after

[@YCDesigns]

not working

[@CLO3D]

Hi. We have had no reports of the livesync not working. We recommend rewatching the video and following all steps for installation and usage. Or please describe the exact issue that you are having.

[@YCDesigns]

@CLO3D Have you read the comments on this video?

[@YCDesigns]

@CLO3D I spent hours and hours trying. But I can't use metahuman. It always crashes. With a native CLO avatar I even got it. But with Metahuman it just doesn't work.

[@CLO3D]

Hi. We cannot tell what mat be causing an issue without a detailed description. could you please send us a crash log and the detailed inquiry via CONNECT Contact Us page

[@blockschmidt]

What if if we have a facial animation of the metahuman that also determines fabric movement of simulation in clo? like facial animations that would simulate a mask differently? Hence, can we combine the face and body animation within one live link animation sequence that we can send to clo? or is it only body motion at the moment?

[@CLO3D]

The metahuman currently imported into LiveSync has a combined body and head bone, but only the body animation. This is because there is no way to specify the animation corresponding to the head in the Persona Editor.

[@101adamdrummer]

Hi please help i get an error saying modules are missing when i activet the plugin in ue5.4 clolivesyncore,clolivesyncruntime,clolivesyncmisc,clolivesynceditor. please build through your ide.

[@CLO3D]

The currently distributed clolivesync does not work in ue5.4. livesync for ue5.4 will be distributed after the substance plugin is released first.

[@antonisfyl]

@@CLO3D Substance plugin for 5.4 just released!:)

[@rtaylorhill]

@@antonisfyl Where can I find 5.4?

[@mohamadabogoddehsabbagh231]

hey thank you for the video But i can not find THE MARKETPLACE Folder after installing Unreal Engine ..

[@CLO3D]

If you download the substance plugin first it should appear after Make sure to read the comments this has been answered a few times :)

[@mohamadabogoddehsabbagh231]

@@CLO3D thanks 🙏🏻

[@monicafindeis8877]

I I've tested it and it works great, the only problem is that the .objs I had in the scene in CLO weren't imported into UE

[@monicafindeis8877]

The .objs were several avatars, I put them back as .avt, but it only imports 1 to the UE, the others don't, does anyone know how to solve it?

[@CLO3D]

With the current LiveSync feature, even if there are multiple avatars in a CLO scene, only one can be imported. If you want to import multiple avatars, the only way is to place each avatar in CLO and import each avatar using LiveSync. Please also note we recommend joining either our Official CLO Discord or post to the CLO Community forums on our website for further help

[@xmkmx1]

Is there any way to export thickness? I've tried setting rendering thickness, but it does not seem to do anything currently

[@CLO3D]

Yes, before exporting did you make sure that your fabric view in the 3D Vertical Toggle was set to Thick Texture Surface (not texture surface)

[@xmkmx1]

@@CLO3D This worked great thanks! Is UDIM currently supported? I dont see any VT samplers in the shaders and exporting with UDIM did not seem to work

[@xmkmx1]

@COL3D Also Unified Material does not seem to work. I would expect for it to behave with regular UVs, but something seems off, exporting the obj to substance and importing the textures does not work

[@CLO3D]

Hi. That is great! For further assistance/help with livesync we actually recommend posting the the marketplace questions section.

[@lilmeowmeow1288]

I have no problem exporting clothes to UE5 but when I try to export my metahuman to MD it crashes. I have successfully been able to sync it twice out of 100 times. I have all the right setting and everything up to date.

[@CLO3D]

Please reach out the MD directly through the Contact Us form located on the Marvelous Designer Website

[@pinareris]

Yes i have the same issue..

[@lilmeowmeow1288]

@@pinareris omg I just saw our comment I figured it out. I had custom shoes that causes the crash. Remove any added customization if you have any

[@pinareris]

@@lilmeowmeow1288 Thanks for the reply! I didint have custom shoes, in my case may be retargeted rig was the issue.. But just a guess.. So didint use the Live link and I did old manual ways

[@lilmeowmeow1288]

@@pinareris old manual way is the GOAT

[@b.jacobs3908]

Excited! :) Does anyone else have the problem though that you can’t find the tool in „window“ in UE? I followed every step in the setup tutorial. I‘m on mac, I hope it’s not a windows-only situation

[@CLO3D]

Hi. Currently Livesync for Mac is not supported and is Windows only.

[@b.jacobs3908]

@@CLO3D Hey, thanks a lot for the information. When do you think Livesync will be available for Mac?

[@gen936]

@@CLO3D Would be nice to mention this somewhere in the Video or pin a comment please.

[@CLO3D]

Sorry we cannot give a date as of yet

[@karinaochoa-gf3jr]

can we use this plugin with UE 5.4?

[@braD-Leyy]

problem is that the substance plugin is not yet available for UE5.4

[@CLO3D]

Not yet, but very soon

[@Gatfullhet]

😍

[@novaverse543]

amazing

[@CLO3D]

Thanks

[@carol____caroline]

is this going to be available to watch later?

[@CLO3D]

yep!

[@ilfersoylev9507]

🫣