Liquid Floor Flow Screed ~ Extension #29

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[@jimgeelan5949]

Wow its so nice to come across a person who really knows his/hers stuff, I’m given him my money

[@gdfggggg]

It was definitely a him.

[@mart-to7kr]

I’ve used this liquid screed, had it poured in the morning by 3 in the afternoon the customer called me to say the new ceiling had collapsed on to the floor. 38m2 of plasterboard in the wet screed, it had fallen in one pice, you can imagine the mess. The rep came out from the plasterboard company and agreed to pay to replace the ceiling and make good the floor. It was March so the conditions were damp outside, but something to be aware of. There’s a lot of moisture involved and a lot of plaster boards are being made from reclaimed boards.

[@grrinc]

Jesus really? The moisture in the room made the plaster board that soggy? That’s insane.

[@mart-to7kr]

@@grrinc All the plaster board screws were still in the joists.

[@grrinc]

@@mart-to7kr Jesus man that sucks. Recently, we’ve noticed plasterboard is very chalky and weak. I’m wondering if that’s reclaimed stuff now.

[@AN-ks2ep]

crazy, my ceilings wouldn't budge even rain would pour on them for the month.

[@andyxox4168]

Open a window?

[@markchisholm2657]

That's cock all. When I renovated my house I had 100m2 of 100mm screed put down. By hand. The bloke doing it had a Chinese Welshman doing the mixing and barrowing and he smoothed it. The Chinese bloke started up the cement mixer at 0700 and then proceeded to mix 17 tonnes of cement between 0700 and 1500 including wheelbarrowing it into my house. It was like watching the human version of a meerkat dig a burrow. He threw the sand into the mixer faster than I could follow. The plasterer I had on site had to stop and stare in wonder. I've never seen anyone work like it. He was built like a racing snake.

[@m4inline]

UV doesnt go thru glass. Not much anyway. IR does. The IR will heat the floor not the UV.

[@gbwildlifeuk8269]

Only UVB rays, the primary sunburn ray, are largely blocked by glass; but more than 50 percent of UVA rays, the main cause of premature skin aging and skin cancer, can penetrate glass. In regard to IR, infrared rays can pass through glass. That's why, greenhouses are constructed with glass. They enter inside with sunlight, absorbed inside to get converted into heat and then gets trapped inside resulting in heating of the enclosure.

[@SkillBuilder]

The important thing is heat, we don't want it cooking.

[@paulkelly2882]

That lad talks through the whole process perfectly, the whole product sells itself with a guy like him doing the talking

[@ianpickin9141]

Where's, Where's James!!!🤨 Never mind all the other stuff

[@markrainford1219]

I think he must be that bump in the floor.

[@erikritchie4386]

Thank you guys so so much for all the videos, has helped immensely in my apprenticeship, I’m now earning over 6 quid per hour after just 4 years 💪🏻

[@SkillBuilder]

Keep it up you will be on £60 in a couple of years

[@foundnotlost]

I wish KZbin was about back when I was just starting out, the best teachers are the ones who are out on the tools day in day out year after year. Now that knowledge is in a 15min video not a 3yr apprenticeship. All the best my friend

[@thetallcarpenter]

The screed guy knew his stuff👍 Floor looks absolutely spot on😎

[@byroncollins533]

My dad's in this he's the guy in the orange high vi's and is talking to a bald man ee

[@jimichip]

I also spent some time talking with your dad, he’s a good man. Make sure you respect him. Dads don’t always get things right and sometimes (a lot of the time) they get on your nerves but he only wants the best for you. Thanks for the comment Byron.

[@SteveAndAlexBuild]

That screed guy knows his stuff 👌🏼🧱👍🏼

[@danielwillits2173]

Check out those socks though 👌🏻

[@gdfggggg]

I always try and do a straight 100mm concrete slab if site requirements allow it. No screeding ball ache required.

[@mrh4rrysingh]

Nice, just in time for my friday night beer.

[@Carl-yu6uw]

Very insightful video - got this spec coming up..

[@carpenter284]

Was doing these 20 years ago ... Absolutely fantastic

[@al-azimahmed1188]

What is the minimum liquid screed you can pour on 16mm castellated panels ? Obviously you need to pour 16mm to get to the top of the pipes, but how much can you get away with after that ? Abit restricted with floor build up

[@AF-ew9zd]

Is it possible that after pouring when the screed settles it pushes the insulation and damp proof membrane down to the subfloor and it makes a 40mm difference? Our builder is telling us this. We need to do another round of pouring to compensate for the 40mm.

[@Chanesmyname]

Really well explained and demonstrated too!

[@lazylad8544]

Wow this looks new age. I bet the level is spot on. Whatever happened to asphalt.

[@stanieman]

where's James?

[@jimichip]

I’m on holiday!

[@jimichip]

That was my stunt double, he can’t say ‘hello mate’ like I do. 😂

[@garethrooney2708]

James not familiar with something. That’s a first 😀

[@TurinTuramber]

He isn't familiar with losing money, the bloke is minted!

[@jimichip]

@@TurinTuramber if only!

[@garethrooney2708]

@@jimichip Where's James? There he is! 👍

[@shaunglendinning]

Very interesting! Thanks for sharing.

[@jemlucy7502]

We used Frank flowscreed

[@forgefast4000]

James 👍

[@m6j159]

Brilliant stuff - thanks Roger👍

[@mattclarke6773]

We always use Gyvlon FD. Will go down to 30mm unbonded no cracking. Doesn't need reinforcing. Quick drying No laitance. No brainer.

[@SkillBuilder]

I am not a huge fan of anhydrite, it turns to mush if there is a plumbing leak and it is bloody tricky to tile on, most tilers hate it. That said I have it in my kitchen and it is fine, I just prefer the cement based stuff to gypsum. Anhydrite feels like plastering the floor.

[@mattclarke6773]

@@SkillBuilder if you want th keep the site running gyvlon fd is spot on. Tileable in a mater of days with the correct adhesive. No laitance to sand off, quick coat of primer and away you go. Get a better plumber if you've got plumbing leaks😂😂

[@martinlouden9005]

A beautiful surface for large format porcelain tiles!

[@spod32827]

Ahh you coulda shown it dry at the end!

[@SkillBuilder]

This is part of a series and there are plenty of shots of the finished job in the next few episodes.

[@solstar4778]

Screed?

[@arfabarmcake2776]

Nice job 👍

[@MegaGavinski]

With the trend away from concrete in major building work for environmental reasons I wonder if there is an impact assessment for this material?

[@denty32]

Just had my boys house done with Gyvlon liquid screed 90sqm @70mm deep 2 hrs, we had to scrap our one 48hrs later but it certainly is top draw. Thanks Rodger for a very informative video.

[@markrainford1219]

Why did you have to scrap it?

[@denty32]

@@markrainford1219 sorry Mark I meant scrape 🙈

[@haroon420]

We got 120 sqm of anhydride screed. It was so good. Made the floor level and tiling is now issue. Did cost us £3k though 🙈

[@jasonantigua6825]

Hello boys,hope you all have a fabulous weekend!

[@jimichip]

Hello mate! I’m living it up in the Forest of Dean with my family. Hope you have a good one too.

[@jasonantigua6825]

@@jimichip Wonderful

[@JohnSmith-ts8xp]

Due to issue the Letter of Acceptance to our winning tenderer this week for the extension and renovation I’ve designed and will be CA for, really excited to see it move to site after almost a year of work!

[@craigthomson25]

Can you polish a liquid screed like you can concrete?

[@JACKATTACKED]

👍

[@dave1secondago]

brilliant vid SB

[@williamsharp7224]

I could of layed this floor with sharp sand and cement in 4 hours with a mate

[@SkillBuilder]

This is sharp sand and cement and it was done in an hour.

[@rutgerhoutdijk3547]

I'm wondering how they make sure those metal brackets on the floor are all level. You can't really use a laser that close to the floor

[@TheDanielShepherd]

You can, you could do it with the laser at any level and a stick.

[@rutgerhoutdijk3547]

@@TheDanielShepherd that sounds finicky, I thought maybe they could use the top handle to match the laser line, that should work.

[@TheDanielShepherd]

@@rutgerhoutdijk3547 it’s pretty easy, mark on a stick where the laser level needs to be and then you can place the stick on top of the disc and move from there. There’s a few ways of doing it, including setting the laser level itself at the right height and just matching the discs to it (I’ve got one that starts at 8mm from the floor)

[@UberAlphaSirus]

You can roughly see 0:20 to 0:30

[@haroon420]

Did you guys not install ufh? That’s a shame. Would’ve been good to have ufh in the screed.

[@SkillBuilder]

Roger did try and talk the client into it but they declined his generous offer

[@haroon420]

@@SkillBuilder oh well. It’s a shame. Next time Roger should invite them around to his country estate villa for tea and show how nice it is to have all the fancy stuff.

[@adydanner]

Roger I have used a flow screed in an extension and used mlcp pipe to radiators that are lagged for expansion etc. Loads of advice is available for underfloor heating is there any advice you can give when I can switch the radiators on? I didn't want to shock the floor. Thanks.

[@SkillBuilder]

Give the floor seven days to cure and then turn on the heating gently. You have lagged pipes so there will be no problem

[@adydanner]

@@SkillBuilder thanks very much I appreciate your advice. Keep up the great work the videos skill builder produces are ace.

[@antonyporter5045]

no thankyou

[@stakkerhmnd]

My mate works for the council

[@iantarncarpentry4285]

Does he have any work for me?

[@m4inline]

My council works for my mate

[@denty32]

What happened Stakk ? Tim Brown beat you to the first comment

[@stakkerhmnd]

@@denty32 Salutations Comrade Denty32! A Glorious Leader must allow his underlings to aspire for greatness! "The Stakk" thought it would be a nice gesture to grant Tim Brown his wish ! :)

[@stakkerhmnd]

@@iantarncarpentry4285 Work? Council? The two don't go hand in hand!

[@petemoring67]

I hope they did it FREE for you to gain the Publicity they'll get from this channel ..... But WOT! a lot of Fannying about, and LOST DAYS while watching paint dry ???? .... Hmmmmm ? ..... Think I'd stick to 'traditonal screed' thanks :-) ........... And I wonder if the Large New-Build Builders go through that process?? ....... Taking Bets NOW!! @ CheckFred ;-)

[@SkillBuilder]

Hi Peter I think the comments about drying may have mislead you. There are no lost days with this screed and it can have additives to make it even faster. The initial walk on time is no different to a troweled down screed. The drying time of 1 day per millimeter applies to traditional trowelled screeds so this product doesn't mean you are wating around before you can put down floor coverings. The conversation about forced drying applies to all screeds and was general guidance. All drying times are variable according to conditions. The advantage of this screed is labour saving, stronger, flatter and much better with underfoor heating because the contact on the pipe is almost total. Many housebuilders use flow screed and it will become more and more common.

[@petemoring67]

@@SkillBuilder Hey, thanks for pointing that out - I did think he meant it had to be left for several days. Never used it myself, have worked on them, and GREAT for cleaning up afterwards :-)

[@SkillBuilder]

@@petemoring67 There is something very refreshing about walking in there on Monday morning to a nice flat, firm, dust free floor that feels like a finished floor. It is great to work on. I was concerned that all that moisture would affect the plastered ceilings and walls but it was fine. I still don't understand how all that liquid is absorbed in the mix with no shrinkage.

[@TurinTuramber]

Used the anhydrite screed before, good results but have to do your research. Make sure your flooring guys know what they are doing. What are the drawbacks of this cement screed?

[@jimichip]

As far as I can tell there are no drawbacks. We have to wait for it to dry, key it up, latex if required and we’re good to go with our floor covering.

[@TurinTuramber]

@@jimichip Sounds good, I always get suspicious when things sound too good. Perhaps it's more expensive than anhydrite else anhydrite is finished. Hope it's all goes well.

[@jimichip]

@@TurinTuramber it is more expensive but the labour after the screed is down is greatly reduced so I’m happy. 👍

[@MistaJayLJ]

Yes I had a few pals that built their houses and used liquid screed, the screed guys did not make it clear that the floor had to be sanded back down and the tiles popped on all 4 houses, one of my mates had £10k worth of tiles down that pooped and and to clean up n start over. Another pal who’s a tiler got a reinstatement job was retiling 100 apartments in London where the tile popped. I had just had the liquid screed floor laid on 2700sqft and my mate called me to ask if I had tiled my floor and if so don’t until I sanded it back, anyways I got paranoid and had a floating floor laid 😂 Since then I went back to traditional screed flooring as was a complete headache lol

[@fireblaster9961]

“You’ve got to treat liquid screed as water”.....oh really

[@SkillBuilder]

You would be amazed how many people leave gaps that allow it to piss through

[@williamsharp7224]

load of crap seen it all before

[@SkillBuilder]

William Sharp If you seriously think you can match the quality of this screed then please let us come and film you. At the moment you sound like that bloke who talks a good story.

[@goawakeneveryone4365]

And you talk a good story.