Sepihroth Makes Cloud Evil Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth

[@payper_arts]

Damn, Cloud’s pupils dilating when Sephiroth tells him to go get the orb from Aerith. Wonderful little detail to add, props to the animation team 😳🫣

[@luisrivera52]

Poco creepy cloud recordo devil jin

[@linkshunter608]

Sephiroth making Cloud fetch the black materia like he's a puppy was so terrible such a sephiroth thing to do

[@navy_ranger5657]

The mind-screwing is strong with him.

[@Waltersop]

"Give me the dark matéria" "You were holding the materia five seconds ag-" "Don’t question my masterplan"

[@0YourGuardian]

There’s a one word answer to this: Fetch.

[@PVNTHR]

"Bring me the black materia" at home:

[@fantasyfox965]

Sephiroth's smile as Cloud is walking towards Arieth. "Yes....go, my little slave."😂

[@ClaireTWD]

xDD Cloud is a little Kitty with a ball

[@jonm9835]

“Yes Cloud… snap out of it” 😳

[@red-cr9so]

bro 🤨🤨🤨🤨

[@xia6942]

“How to train your puppy 101”

[@phantomslay5612]

Sephiroth really using those Jenova cells to full effect.

[@destruction9544]

Be careful with spoilers, it's not Sephiroth, these Jenovas who are taking possession of Cloud's body.

[@hashtag.ethanz]

⁠​⁠@@destruction9544it was confirmed already that Seph merged with Jenova in the lifestream when he fell at the reactor which made Jenova fully act in Sephiroth’s will, it’s why he only appears from black robed specimen and why the reunion is still effective as all Jenova cells try to come back to one which Sephiroth had took over the lead of that when merged in the lifestream, so to sum it up it is Sephiroth as he’s technically Jenova but in more active form

[@destruction9544]

​@@hashtag.ethanzSephiroth has never merged with Jenova at this point in history, most know he will ! But before that, Sephiroth is trapped in an ice coffin so that he can regenerate his main body ! You will see it clearly in part 3 of the remake, the sephiroth that you are viewing comes from the future while this one is a fake that was invoked by Jenova to deceive his pursuer.

[@hashtag.ethanz]

@@destruction9544 preciate you correcting that, I swear I’d feel like I’d understand the Jenova and Seph relationship all the way until I miss another key factor lol they tend to be confusing with how much goes on between the 2

[@holographicwing]

Does no one play this game? Hojo showed S cells, S blood, S tissue. Sephiroth is in control.

[@KirbyIsCute]

Sephiroth: Come to the dark side, we have cookies!

[@Witchrave2004]

LMAOOOOO

[@vektor7162]

Sephiroth:cookies for good puppy, like Cloud, such a good boy 🐶🤗😈

[@tiffanyillig48]

This scene is literally creepy, along with Cloud killing the Shinra soldiers and almost killed Tifa, and Cloud killing the demon wall while everyone watches in horror and confusion. Hearing Cloud actually laughing in this scene and when he found the black Materia, gave chills down my spine. Seeing Aerith running away from Cloud and looking back at him while Cloud stagger runs at her while taunts her and laughs evilly. Especially seeing him grin evilly when he holding the black Materia. I was hoping to see Cloud punching Aerith in the original and seeing one of the groups knocking him out, but this is actually good and impressive.

[@Dragnoff88]

I picture Cloud pulling a Smeagle and calling the Black Materia his precious.

[@bukojoetheslapsoils8273]

Sméagol

[@AnotherGeek....]

myyyyyyyy precioussssss -cloud probably

[@vincentlin9926]

Cloud and his three waifus’ daily routine.

[@NerdySetsokam]

Wait a sec- Tifa, Aerith.... Who's the third?

[@goroakechi6126]

@@NerdySetsokam Fetch.

[@NerdySetsokam]

​@@goroakechi6126Aye aye, Captain!!

[@ugh5281]

i actually like the change in this scene, it's still creepy seeing cloud act like that but he doesn't hurt aerith and instead saves her.

[@ms.pirate]

I'm surprised they changed the lore that the temple was the black materia

[@chrisharding3200]

​@ms.pirate I don't think they did tbf the cutscene where we see the temple vanish it turns into what appears to be a black ball. I think Sephiroth knows this hence he threw It away but in his style he just had to mess with Cloud while doing so. The real materia was given to Cloud by Aerith after the fall. Hence he takes it from his pocket at the end of the game

[@AlwaysTiredBruh-__-]

I’m always amazed how cloud swings around that sword with those noodle arms

[@YOMAMACOW]

Think of jenova cells as super soldier serum but with with a little dose of Venom.

[@phanhuyduc2395]

Size# Strength mate

[@celineosthaus8032]

I'm more amazed by the fact that people think it's believable that Tifa is a martial artist with muscles, considering her arms look like twigs.

[@EvelynL.1112]

​@@celineosthaus8032 It's even more jarring given that Tifa is not enhanced with Mako or JENOVA cells at all.

[@ericko1955]

You're kinda braind3@d

[@zackvyle]

Bro the thing playing when Cloud is walking towards Aerith, gives me the shivers

[@ZenkuTheories]

God this part was insane. I thought Cloud being manipulated in the OG was bad, but its even worse here. I'm so glad I didn't look up any spoilers before I played the game.

[@AnotherGeek....]

i played almost non stop when i had the chance the moment the game came out just to prevent spoilers. im glad i did, i played the og and seeing stuff like this was amazing i really like this also the ending where cloud is leaving etc its makes me look forward to next game

[@djslw0114]

Final Fantasy 7 How to train your Cloud

[@josetomascamposrobledano4618]

They were never going to show Cloud beating up Aerith.

[@НикитаСимонян-ж5е]

Instead they show, how his love for her wins😂

[@alimichalkan8046]

Would hv changed the rating to M.

[@EvelynL.1112]

Yeah, I wished they kept Cloud beating up Aerith for the dramatic and tragic tension. I don't like seeing Cloud and Aerith get hurt of course, but it justified Aerith running off to the Forgotten Capital on her own.

[@maellesaliou5871]

Wait so Sephiroth managed to grab the black materia before the others, but dropped it just so he could have Cloud give it back to him 😱 ? What a sick bastard I

[@deathbykonami5487]

He wants Cloud to bring it to where his physical body is in the Northern Crater.

[@KoTsuki-jo1pw]

Gotta stick to the script😂

[@wontononionslicer1004]

No, if you look in slowmo the black materia actually went trough his hand, means sephiroth is still a not fully formed.

[@mimbaoJH]

I mean he can’t exactly rely on a drunk black robed man to carry such a dangerous item, might as well entrust it to Cloud himself to bring it to the Northern crater. He’s essentially his trojan horse for the rest of the party

[@lelela2211]

Honestly this game made me feel sick at times. We as players grew to love cloud and seeing him slowly changing towards the end and him becoming insane realy hurt me. Especially seeing tifa.... I dont want to imagine how deep they will go on that in part 3... poor cloud... This games characters are just so well done..

[@maellesaliou5871]

Yeah you see Cloud being a little more like himself and having fun with some side Quests and mini Games, you see him smile and spending nice and touching moments with his friends and love Interest with the dates at the gold saucer, the loveless play etc. But then Sephiroth's influence on him grows stronger and ruin everything Cloud build with himself and repress again his true self which was slowly emerging 😥 to replace him with something twisted and more to Sephiroth's liking (and Cloud's PTSD + Jenova cells repressing and altering his true memories about Zack didn't help either) And that scene where Cloud is just cheering with Dio but then hallucination Sephiroth appears and tells him to have fun while he still have time ? Oh boy that was also fucked up. I knew that having this Sephiroth keep haunting Cloud and harass him like that was prompt to further harm Cloud's psyche in Rebirth, but I wasn't expecting Sephiroth to manage to control Cloud to that extent, we certainly never saw him have that much influence on Cloud's mind and actions even in FF7 OG 😥

[@ErenDenizMert]

Cant wait for part 3 when he fully realizes what happened to his dear Aerith

[@ReductioadVeritas]

@lelela2211 in the original cloud beats the shit out of aerith and takes the black materia by force, he has always been meant to go through an arc of insanity, which makes his eventual restoration all the more fullfilling

[@Perfection_01]

​@@ReductioadVeritas Well unfortunately it is 2024, women cannot be touched in any scene

[@FidoHusky]

tell me about it the fact that Tifa had to intervene and tackle Cloud to the ground was probably the most crucial and most risky thing she has ever had to do and it bought enough time for Cloud to snap out of it hopefully with Aerith intervention Sephiroth can no longer control his mind

[@philiphall6351]

I love how Aerith face is exactly the same as Clouds when he fell off the top of the Shinra Building

[@kingzing555]

Probably the most intense and sad story in gaming history what a time to be alive !

[@onewinged07]

Shouldn’t have skipped out the emotional moment the group has here. It hurts. But it helps see how much struggle the group had to go through because of Jenova and Seph

[@bigguy952]

Aka Sephiroth and Cloud return to their Teen wolf roots

[@super-engineer8437]

Making cloud his little bish lmao

[@ghostwolfr054]

My precious

[@richardmcgowan1651]

Rebirth ended up being a better retelling of the events of OG FF7 at this stage of the game. Were Remake tried to change this up a bit. Maybe they weren't able to do anything because Cloud is very much under Sephiroth's control. Like in OG FF7. I think the only thing different here is they are trying to make it seem Aerith has influence over Cloud. Were she might be trying to help Cloud deal with what has happened to her.

[@Talis17118]

I think it is a case where in remake, fate was trying to keep the timeline going to a particular conclusion.. but now fate out of the way, Sephiroth is has more influence than he did in the other game.. however, Aerith also has a degree of influence as well that i think vexes Sephiroth quite a bit.

[@Storm1Trooper5]

It was better rightttt until the altar sequence

[@ms.pirate]

They did a terrible job with "remake" by trying to make it a sequel. Reason being, kadaj and the other 2 were the whispers bosses in "remake". They weren't even existed yet! How is it even possible they were very early in the story? I'm glad the team were like "oh shit this timeline thing is turning into kingdom hearts, but its too late to change it. Welp lets slowly change it again to get back on track to be an actual remake". I'm surprised they haven't kick Nomura out again for the second time

[@GrimoireIsGrimm]

Something that I love about Sephiroth as a villain is probably the fact that even without the Jenova cells, he’s still extremely manipulative of Cloud and able to make him act of his own will sometimes when he’s clouded by anger in that one scene in the Gongaga reactor

[@skahadi3005]

they didn't put the young cloud in this scene, why square, why?

[@mrsgamer9218]

Yea i missed that as while. Child cloud was his sane mind trying to keep cloud from doing stupid stuff

[@snowykitten6860]

It would've been so cool if we heard child cloud call out to him while he staggered- The things they could've done- blur his voice, make it tiny, maybe with a tinge of static as Jenova tries and fails to keep the voice away! One cool detail in gameplay- if you try turning around, the game doesn't let you. He stumbles and walks a bit forward instead. Gives the impression that we, the player, is child cloud trying to take back control but is failing to. It's a pretty cool detail :D

[@maellesaliou5871]

Maybe to show us how further control Sephiroth does have over Cloud this time 😥 Remember in Remake when Cloud fell in the Church of sector 5 ? Before he woke up he heard the voice of his true self encouraging him, same as in FF7 OG, the difference is that in Remake, the hand and voice that were positively encouraging Cloud suddenly turn into Sephiroth, and the white background becomes Black, as if to show us that this time Sephiroth is really more assertive and acting with the influence he has on Cloud than he did in FF7 OG, to the point that in Rebirth, even Cloud's childlike self voice can no longer reach him for now. I dread to see what will happen in part 3, we know Cloud's breakdown about his false memories is coming up, that the moment he hears the mix of truth and lies from Sephiroth's mouth, he's gonna lose his mind. But in OG Cloud's body at least made it toward Mideel until Tifa found him and both fell into the lifestream and had Cloud fix his memories. But I fear that in part 3, Sephiroth will make sure this time that Cloud will never get the chance to fix his broken memories 😥

[@pipboysandlightsabers5478]

Because it was moved to the Tifa lifestream section

[@Nobodysurvivesevenonebit]

Sephiroth wet dreams

[@votebluenomatterwho2532]

Must have the precious

[@ClaireTWD]

Aww Cloud save to Aerith always :') 💙🐰🌈🌸

[@snowykitten6860]

0:41 you think his plea for the materia was so that he could regain control of himself? 🤔 It could just be me but he sounded desperate there instead of creepy

[@genevievelaplace7301]

I think his plea was just the manipulation Sephi did to him. Like manipulating him into thinking tha the black materia is the only thing that matter to the world.

[@linkshunter608]

He's just lost in delusion, at this point hes just desperately seeking Sephiroth's approval all he wants is to deliver the black materia to sephiroth

[@Doc-Mayhem]

Clouds new journey was great writing when you now know he has Seph's potential and Hojo's mad experiment if not for fate occurring twice too scar us again (no spoiler). Then you have Clouds 2nd dip and within that event the planet and a friend choose their new white winged weapon.

[@KingTimmahB]

1:21 When Mom won't give you her credit card to buy Robux

[@AnthonyDay-s1z]

I wonder how Cloud, having such immense willpower to kill Sephiroth in the first place, fails to use his will to change things over here? Perhaps willpower is like a muscle, he must've broke it...

[@genevievelaplace7301]

Hmmmmm its much more complicated than that.

[@solenyadnapa8191]

Damn they fkd up Clouds mind here way worse than og.....

[@azazel166]

If Sephiroth is aware of what happened, why doesn't he go after Tifa? If he kills her, then Cloud's mind won't be repaired and no one will be able to stop him.

[@ms.pirate]

He kinda did in gongaga. Probably on the writing's fault

[@thebrigade7684]

I uh don't think SE can recover from the backlash that might happen if they kill off one of the most popular female heroine they created I don't blame them for giving her the plot armor but atleast compared to og Sephiroth recognizes the fact that Tifa is problematic for his plans.

[@amoghsawant3801]

I think aerith gained his memory in end

[@holographicwing]

He tried to get Cloud to kill her and she survived. He also attacked her in the weapon. She survived then too. Now he has all of the third game to try some more.

[@Oddfosshaugbagi]

Its Sephiroth…he wants cloud do it against his will

[@MaidenOfHusbands]

Toxic yaoi

[@AdenNola1]

Cloud is acting like an addict here, and the black materia is his drug

[@SeanJohnson-wp8ry]

Meth is no joke

[@rachelspencer95]

1:39 Anyone know the name of the soundtrack? Struggling to find it 🫠

[@comradeomega1471]

That is a realy mess up head

[@chewydog77]

The manipulation of Cloud plays such a massive part in the original too. Jenova is nothing to trifle with

[@razorkhan1131]

Sephiroth picks up the materia, then drops it for cloud and then ask cloud to bring it to him. Why? So much drama?

[@monca1222]

Sephiroth is a cat. He likes to play and toy with weak things...

[@thegreatachiever4651]

So instead of Cloud beating up Aerith, he's just a submissive dog here, while nobody tries to knock him out.😆

[@christianlopez707]

Square doesn't have the balls to show something like that in this day and age.

[@thegreatachiever4651]

@@christianlopez707 Yup. It's no surprise that Cid is also different in this game.

[@onewinged07]

I was emotionally steeling myself for it…. But it didn’t happen :(

[@TehReasoning]

​​​@@christianlopez707The entire story has been toned down and grittiness is gone. Barrett, Cid have been toned down completely from how they were in the original. Even Red XIII has moments of that teenager voice lol. Game is more geared towards a younger modern audience than the original's violence, harshness and no holds barred language.

[@rafaelrebelo1899]

@@TehReasoningbecause target audience is more important than respecting original source, unfornately :v I know it’s a remake,but c’mon.

[@mayor18juegos73]

Cloud couldn't get out of the mind control with Tifa (besides pushing her) but he could with Aerith❤

[@thebrigade7684]

Eh it only happened after getting the black materia back to himself

[@Shu05]

​@thebrigade7684 Lol exactly, its as if they are watching a complete different clip....we know sephiroth got what he wanted, there was no need for mind control.....😕

[@lieberte]

@@Shu05 You didn't see the reason he snapped back to normal is because aerith movement reminded him of their first meeting? Too hard to spot?

[@Shu05]

@@lieberte Clearly it is to hard for YOU to grasp that Aerith wasn't the reason that cloud snapped back. Some of you whacko fans need to chill and watch the video again until you understand. Do you comprehend?

[@nexusanphans3813]

@@Shu05 You clearly didn't watch the scene properly.

[@waynepayne864]

i dont understand why sephiroth and aeris keeps giving cloud materia and telling him to give it back short after. i guess i kind of a trust fall or bible symbolism i missed?

[@genevievelaplace7301]

Its because there is multiple world. Sephi said it. He needed Cloud to give him the real on he unlock.

[@linkshunter608]

Thats the point, there is no logical reason for Sephiroth to throw the black materia and make cloud give it back. He's treating cloud like a dog making him play fetch for it because at the end of the day all sephiroth wants is ruin cloud. And in this scene Aerith only gave cloud the black materia back because it was either that or die, and she knows shes not supposed to die yet

[@genevievelaplace7301]

@@linkshunter608 He litteraly said: That black materia is a key for opening the path between world where the true one is. He litterally said it. Also maybe he wanted to test his control over Cloud at this point. This is why he tell him to give back to him when he sumonned the real black materia.

[@haileeraestout5567]

So If Sephiroth Turns Cloud "Evil" Then We Might See Aerith Get Answers From Lucrecia But First She Must Locate Her In PART 3

[@takerweapon1]

I'd be surprised if Aerith, Lucrecia, and Vincent turn Sephiroth good in part 3.

[@КонстантинПаршуков-о6б]

​@@takerweapon1this won't happen. The story is the same.

[@takerweapon1]

@@КонстантинПаршуков-о6б Not really seeing as how the trilogy is a sequel to the og and changes are taking place especially with timelines and realities are converging together.

[@richardmcgowan1651]

Cloud aint done being evil. Also it will come clear to Cloud in part three what has been going on and Tifa will play a big part in that. Cloud has massive PTSD and makes stuff up in his head to deal with events in his life. Tifa hasn't and wont say anything because she to is wondering why Cloud is like this.

[@TehReasoning]

​​@@КонстантинПаршуков-о6бThe story is definitely gone from original they might as well change everything. Whispers, black material showing up now and everything is just so far completely from the original they might as well change it.

[@misterwacky3186]

Us (to Cloud): Don’t do it!

[@Witchrave2004]

Cloud is high on mako

[@Jammineyeonline]

THE PRECIOUS!!!!

[@gabby1105]

Name of the ost?

[@votebluenomatterwho2532]

Sephiroth, “good goy. Give me the black materia, now I can summon the Samson option and destroy all the enemies of Israel.”

[@celtyrider8111]

I really liked the Advent Children Cloud because he was so strong and determined. But I honestly don't like THIS remake Cloud even a bit. He's more like a baby chick rather than a meaningful Leader or protagonist 🐣🐣🐥🐥 🤦🤦🤦

[@NathanTemple-Bird]

lies, cloud did not turn evil Im sick of these false headlines give me spoilers stop trying to ruin the story!🤬

[@leahjanulgue7200]

Poor tifa

[@EvelynL.1112]

You have no right to talk about Tifa since you hate her so much.

[@JeremyS-mn6og]

​@@EvelynL.1112Calm Down😂😂

[@EvelynL.1112]

​@@JeremyS-mn6og This isn't funny.

[@JeremyS-mn6og]

@@EvelynL.1112 Tifa lying to much to him so yes A Horrible Friend for Cloud(Relationship is based on Trust NOT LIES)

[@EvelynL.1112]

@@JeremyS-mn6og It's not as black and white as you think. Tifa is lying to Cloud for morally grey reasons. Did you even think what would happen if Tifa suddenly dropped truth bombs on him? How would you think Cloud would react? He would FLIP OUT. Tifa's motivations for keeping Cloud in the dark may be half-driven by selfishness but the other half is because she is afraid of what would happen to Cloud's fragile mental state. P.S.- I don't ship Cloti. I don't like it romantically and I never will.

[@passion4pets513]

Wait I thought what’s wrong with cloud is solider degradation right

[@LilyChilyFries]

do you want to get spoiled?

[@ms.pirate]

​@@LilyChilyFries do it. Its been years already

[@holographicwing]

@@LilyChilyFries I mean you can't spoil them considering they changed it in the game and are constantly changing it so even the nerds who love to feel smug get proven wrong.

[@Oddfosshaugbagi]

@@holographicwing no thats not it and retcons arne’t allowed to change that much

[@persona2293]

Can we stop at least killing Aerith, for 5 minutes? Same for Zack.

[@razorkhan1119]

Okay, so sephiroth took the black materia, then dropped it, and told cloud to bring that to him. Why? He had it in the first place. After cloud delivered the materia to him, sephiroth sent cloud and aerith to the lifestream. At the end of the game, we see cloud possesses the black materia. This game is garbage and does not make any sense. They ruined the story in every possible way. I haven't even mentioned the city ancient shit.

[@KaiTheTyrant]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO 😱😭🤬

[@lajazziamacklin8418]

My reaction to Cloud giving Sephiroth the Black Materia: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIXGoat8ZatmjNE

[@mr.eternal4439]

Doom did it better

[@juliox9]

Ooo yeaa off curse they chicken put on what really happened here, os it to.much for weak "modern audience s"

[@niksolu]

if you really want that scene from the og in hd, you need to get your brain fixed

[@jovif.spemudaindonesia1841]

Yeah no balls

[@Storm1Trooper5]

The characters in this game are much more realistic. Do you think Barret would forgive cloud if he actually battered Aerith no way 💀

[@juliox9]

@@Storm1Trooper5 yes if he understands clouds was mind controlled, realism the go to excuse to defend something woke.

[@shanajeangedeon9060]

​@@juliox9Realism definition: 1-the attitude or practice of accepting a situation as it is and being prepared to deal with it accordingly. 2-the quality or fact of representing a person, thing, or situation accurately or in a way that is true to life. Soooo... they're literally right, it's far more accurate (and realistic) that Cloud would *not need* to beat Aerith to get the materia. Honestly, it's kinda weird to desire it so badly in the first place; last time I checked the original still exists, you wanna see it so badly you can just go watch it😅