Overly Sarcastic Productions: Loki!

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@josephcarvil9474
@josephcarvil9474 3 жыл бұрын
Hope everyone is having a fantastic day! 😄
@josephcarvil9474
@josephcarvil9474 3 жыл бұрын
@@realperson4931 well I hope you have a better tomorrow then! 🙃
@mattwerstler1155
@mattwerstler1155 3 жыл бұрын
@@realperson4931 hope today is a one better one then
@filipvadas7602
@filipvadas7602 3 жыл бұрын
So basicslly, Loki is the victim of a centuries long smeer campaign , just like Hades
@rotciv557
@rotciv557 3 жыл бұрын
Except in this case, Loki would probably find the concept of people being ridiculously frustrated with trying to figure out his lore incredibly amusing. Maybe he even planned it all out himself, just to spite historians
@Shiobana753
@Shiobana753 3 жыл бұрын
A smear campaign he most likely caused
@filipvadas7602
@filipvadas7602 3 жыл бұрын
@@rotciv557 most likely , having anything about him be extremely difficult to pin down would be the perfect way to screw with people , historians especially
@tilltronje1623
@tilltronje1623 3 жыл бұрын
And Lucifer
@willlyon7129
@willlyon7129 3 жыл бұрын
Both of them are misunderstood gods.
@silvertheelf
@silvertheelf 3 жыл бұрын
Loki: god of mischief... not evil, just mischief. Hades: god of the underworld... not evil, just the underworld. Zeus: god of lightning... might actually be a god of evil, but just the god of lightning.
@annacollins8999
@annacollins8999 3 жыл бұрын
And also, from what I've heard some people say, the god of Adultery (and also hospitality, for some odd reason?)
@robinchesterfield42
@robinchesterfield42 3 жыл бұрын
No, we all know what Zeus is REALLY the god of: Bangin'!
@silvertheelf
@silvertheelf 3 жыл бұрын
@@robinchesterfield42 well yes… but anyway
@silvertheelf
@silvertheelf 3 жыл бұрын
@@annacollins8999 I can’t see why hospitality would be one but yes
@Troublethecat
@Troublethecat 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say he was evil either. In the context of ancient Greece and their attitudes towards women his behavior was pretty benign. Also it's not his fault that the Greeks wanted almost every major Greek hero to be his kid.
@vergil8833
@vergil8833 3 жыл бұрын
Loki isn't the son of Odin in the actual stories though, thats a marvel thing, same thing with Hela, shes not the daughter of Odin but actually Loki.
@alechs
@alechs 3 жыл бұрын
isn't loki also an adopted son of odin and he's actually a frost giant? either way, it's convoluted and not really accurate.
@vergil8833
@vergil8833 3 жыл бұрын
@@alechs Hes a jotun which doesn't actually imply any difference other than that akin to being from a different region or noble family. The Æsir, Vanir, and Jotun are more like rivaling royal families rather than different species. The jotun just are called giants and sometimes they're portrayed as big, but that might also just come from the creation myth involving the slaying of Ymir, who was a jotun and was so big that his body became the world and spawed all other jotun. So hes not actually a frost giant, the idea of frost giants at all is not actually from the mythology I don't think. But the jotun are often called frost giants in fantasy media so in that sense, yes Loki is a frost giant, not an Æsir. Loki is generally quite tricky because he is likely very corrupted by Snorri. To find his original purpose one has to look throuhg the other indo-european religions. Other gods tend to appear with other names quite similarily in all of them going back as far as we can reconstruct. Dyeus in Odin and Perkwunas in Thor. Unless we assume Loki into an uncorrupted "Hades" figure then theres no other Loki in other indo-european religions.
@antonioscendrategattico2302
@antonioscendrategattico2302 3 жыл бұрын
@@vergil8833 But the whole point that Red was trying to make is that there really isn't a "canon" for Loki - or much of Norse mythology.
@dylanmatthewper2003
@dylanmatthewper2003 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! @Vergil
@flwrsforvarda
@flwrsforvarda 3 жыл бұрын
Loki and Odin are brothers.
@theidiotcowguy752
@theidiotcowguy752 3 жыл бұрын
I remember a sad story about Loki where his 2 favorite sons were murdered by the Gods. Then the Gods took the limbs and organs of Loki's Sons and built them into Ropes and Chains. And then they tie Loki down to a Slab for eternity with his own son's organs and with a Snake's Venom dripping on his face. Oh, and how did his kids die? The gods turned one into a wolf and the other to a sheep, let them murder eachother, and then they came down and finished off Wolf Boy. So thats pretty depressing.
@religionisatragedy8537
@religionisatragedy8537 3 жыл бұрын
Thats what happens when you murder the gods favorite person
@theidiotcowguy752
@theidiotcowguy752 3 жыл бұрын
@@religionisatragedy8537 If I kill your bff, you better not show up, force my sons to battle to the death, kill the winner, and then tie me down with their organs. Thats a little Psycho
@religionisatragedy8537
@religionisatragedy8537 3 жыл бұрын
@@theidiotcowguy752 pretty sure baldur was Odin's son,not bff. And anyway killing someone's son because you're jealous of the attention they get is pretty psycho you cant really complain about the punishment you get when you deliberately murder the god of war's favorite son
@theidiotcowguy752
@theidiotcowguy752 3 жыл бұрын
@@religionisatragedy8537 But to be fair, imagine you're Loki. Imagine you're constantly sweeping up the problems of the other Gods and fixing them. Imagine if you're fixing everything, and also blamed for everything. Imagine if you were Loki. The other Gods who you constantly help never respect you. And then suddenly, goody-two-shoes stubs his toe and now Freya is running around frantically getting everything in existence to promise to never hurt her precious baby boy. You've been tortured, your 3 kids have all been banished and harmed. Everything you've ever done is being downplayed by your *family*. And now this God is getting everything for doing nothing. You'd be mad. Your daughter was banished to the Underworld, your son has been cast to the ocean and made into a Monster, and your last son has been tied in chains for no reason. All because they existed. You would have all that pent up Anger, but wait, you're the God of MISCHIEF and TRICKERY. You'd kill him. I would.
@religionisatragedy8537
@religionisatragedy8537 3 жыл бұрын
@@theidiotcowguy752 imagine you're odin and Loki,the god you brought to asgard is always starting up trouble, one day he decides to murder your son in front of you and your family,so you decide to kill his sons in revenge so he can feel your pain,you would,i would.
@agenttheater5
@agenttheater5 3 жыл бұрын
12:33 Yes you heard right, Loki gave birth to an 8-legged horse. Loki is a mother to one as well as a father to five - the other two are the sons he had with his wife Sigyn the goddess of fidelity (it's never clear whether or not he was married before he had that fling with the Giantess which resulted in his three 'monstrous' children). Their names are Vali and Narfi, and when Loki was imprisoned for killing Baldur he was bound with their entrails.
@whereisthefire6285
@whereisthefire6285 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'd call the chirstian God pretty fickle too XD "All loving, but also how dare you burn in hell" is the general theme in the Bible I noticed.
@intruwuder4183
@intruwuder4183 2 жыл бұрын
"I love you unconditionally except if you have a case of think different"
@calebgoodman2076
@calebgoodman2076 3 жыл бұрын
Flyting back then was the equivalent to a modern day rap battle. Loki was canonically a rapper...
@jprophet2870
@jprophet2870 3 жыл бұрын
What I find interesting with Loki is that due to his inconsistent characterization in the modern day, along with an understanding of how these old religions were not the fixed, stories we have today of these old deities, Loki is by all means still a living god in my eyes. A god with constantly evolving stories that are all based on the perspective of the people telling them.
@silvertheelf
@silvertheelf 3 жыл бұрын
Loki every time he accidentally dose something evil:”that wasn’t planned but here we go!” Also, Loki as a spider has some credence behind it, I mean, he creates creatures of fear (phobia if you wish), and is responsible for creating an 8 legged horse (spiders have 8 legs) and then entangler also makes sense.
@antonioscendrategattico2302
@antonioscendrategattico2302 3 жыл бұрын
Also, other cultures have trickster gods associated with spiders. Anansi comes to mind.
@silvertheelf
@silvertheelf 3 жыл бұрын
@@antonioscendrategattico2302 a uhh… ‘weaver’ of lies if you wish
@Corrupted_Eon
@Corrupted_Eon 2 жыл бұрын
The fact Lokis story’s basically don’t connect making it hard to narrow down theories is a very Loki thing to do (at least the marvel one anyway)
@lemjustlem
@lemjustlem 3 жыл бұрын
14:30 The old gods of the world at large (may they never be forgotten) have always been embellished aspects of humanity at our best and worst; that, and they were also a way to explain that which was not understood in the world around them. With regards to the Norse gods, they were neither immortal nor invulnerable; they were (simply) superpowered humans, made ever-youthful by the Apples of Idunn.
@alexzbughin3392
@alexzbughin3392 3 жыл бұрын
Well the reason why old gods used to be so understandable and sometimes relatable is because they were ment to explain something, for example Loki who caused earthquackes after being tortured by a snake.Unlike the Christian God who is supposed to be mysterious and all-mighty because we are not supposed to judge him in any way, we are not supposed to classifty him , but the old gods where supposed to represent thunder or sunny days etc.
@antonioscendrategattico2302
@antonioscendrategattico2302 3 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that countless editors have changed the nature of the christian god throughout history. His roots are as a god in a polytheistic pantheon, and the modern conception of almost a personification of the idea of good is... extremely different from his characterization throughout the Bible, which is also inconsistent with itself because the books that make up the Bible were not all written by the same author, but by different authors, and then compiled by politically motivated editors.
@berilsevvalbekret772
@berilsevvalbekret772 3 жыл бұрын
@@antonioscendrategattico2302 yeah I mean old testement God is hella petty jealous and cruel. And never explained germ theory to people for some reason...
@oryxcalrissian6917
@oryxcalrissian6917 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Gods were reflections of the many facets of humanity and the human condition, and we give in to jealousy, bitterness, and hatred; so it makes perfect sense that the gods would be just as prone to those vices.
@ryanstewart5727
@ryanstewart5727 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, the biblical god did force the Pharaoh to go back on his word so he could torture the Egyptians solely to prove a point, even going so far as genocide. That's pretty petty.
@calebgoodman2076
@calebgoodman2076 3 жыл бұрын
Fenrir is such an innocent child!!! 😭
@littlebaldedone
@littlebaldedone 2 жыл бұрын
In one version, Fenrir has two wolf sons, skott and hati, who are said to devour the sun and moon respectively during Ragnarok.
@AmericanBrit9834
@AmericanBrit9834 Жыл бұрын
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Gonna have to disagree with that one buddy. Not really innocent.
@Starbeam1979
@Starbeam1979 11 ай бұрын
Same with his sibs.
@TheNeonParadox
@TheNeonParadox 3 жыл бұрын
The original Codex Regius, which is the source of the Poetic Edda was also mysteriously missing a lot of its poems when it turned up after 300-400 years. Its whereabouts are completely unknown from the time it was written/compiled up until the mid 17th century. It's very feasible there is plenty more information about Loki in those missing poems, but we'll likely never know, sadly.
@margaretbruhn4376
@margaretbruhn4376 3 жыл бұрын
I love watching people react to Norse Mythology. The only issue I had with OSPs video is that Loki is not the only one with mixed parentage, but they got the nuance on point and added a perspective I hadn't thought of before. Edited for further commentary.
@roseforest8950
@roseforest8950 3 жыл бұрын
She was meaning that every one else seems to have an Æsir father and a Jötnar mother where Loki has a Æsir mother and a Jötnar father he’s the only one to have this percentage
@ajaxdishbarx54
@ajaxdishbarx54 3 жыл бұрын
@@roseforest8950 actually tyr in some versions is said to have a jotunn father and aesir mother so loki wasn't alone but there was only 2 gods who's fathers were jotunn and mothers were aesir
@roseforest8950
@roseforest8950 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajaxdishbarx54 actually forgot about Tyr sorry you’ve got a point I don’t no what she was meaning then
@ajaxdishbarx54
@ajaxdishbarx54 3 жыл бұрын
@@roseforest8950 no problem because it's not sure who's son tyr is. In some myth he's Odin's son in others he's hyrm's son
@roseforest8950
@roseforest8950 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajaxdishbarx54 Yeah Tyr a confusing one his history to we don’t no much about him
@Sleepdeprivedchildwithglasses
@Sleepdeprivedchildwithglasses 3 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is Loki literally hades because he get blamed for everything bad but it is the other gods who do the “oopsy daisies “ and make him clean up the spilt milk and I am looking at you Zeus 👁👁
@TheRichmaster24
@TheRichmaster24 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, the in the Old Testament there is a flat out quote "I am a jealous god" so it's more modern perception than actual text
@alexanderwolfsberg
@alexanderwolfsberg 3 жыл бұрын
Hehe i know what Odin said "Get up you little shit I know your not really dead" Lol
@Starbeam1979
@Starbeam1979 11 ай бұрын
🤣
@nikolasgrots334
@nikolasgrots334 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this reaction :). Red also made a video about Persephone and Hades and it's super interesting and there are some cool facts. Would love to see your reaction to it too
@Xeno455
@Xeno455 3 жыл бұрын
Skitten you can't really say unlike the Christian God. The God of the Old Testament himself says he is a jealous God. He's also got the same sort of human emotion embedded in him as other gods. Even interfering just as much in the Old Testament as Olympus. We can't just ignore the old testament when talking about Christianity. In any context, really.
@Alexanderthegreat159
@Alexanderthegreat159 3 жыл бұрын
Idk. Christian god is pretty fickle. "Love me first or burn in hell" and all that
@samrevlej9331
@samrevlej9331 3 жыл бұрын
I think the idea of Gods or a God as perfect beings is not even an original Judeo-Christian artefact, but rather developed in Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages. The original Old Testament God is very wrathful, spiteful and even cruel at times. Like pagan gods, he was worshipped in part because he was feared, like the forces of nature he embodied, and people prayed to be kept safe from disasters. It's also why Hebraic religion, aside from being conducted in a temple with closed doors and not outdoors (which made the Romans wary), was, like Greco-Roman polytheism, a public religion. People didn't individually pray to the god or even have to personally believe in them, but as members of the community, they had to collectively participate in religious ceremonies in order to keep the community safe. This is also why early Christianity, as a sect of Judaism, even though their god was apparently nicer, closely resembled Judaism in its honoring practices. Faith was collective. The transition toward a more universal and simultaneously personal kind of faith, which anyone from any origin could acquire, was made by early Church founders such as Paul of Tarsus and other figures. That's also when, from what I've heard, the "unknowable" and "beyond human" aspect of the Christian god was emphasized by the emerging Church. I'm no religious scholar, though, and this is mainly deduced from my classes on Roman history, my personal searches on the history of religions and what I've gleaned from discussions with a friend who had Catechism. I'm irreligious myself, and religious members of my family aren't theologians, so this should be taken with a grain of salt.
@apriljaxon7623
@apriljaxon7623 3 жыл бұрын
14:32, the Christian god does covet one thing, the spotlight. The evidence is what the first three commandments are.
@gamingdemigodxiii5630
@gamingdemigodxiii5630 3 жыл бұрын
13:20 I see that look in your eyes, and yes that is the proto-One Ring.
@OrbObserver
@OrbObserver 3 жыл бұрын
Read the old testament, the Christian God is angry, capricious, cruel, and untrustworthy. Sounds like an old God to me.
@ragnaros7889
@ragnaros7889 3 жыл бұрын
Plus bible might be only part of the lore since if I remember corectly it was put together from many old texts by church so they took what they wanted and what was popular and created it
@carlosvazquez1983
@carlosvazquez1983 3 жыл бұрын
I feel more confused but at the same time I feel like I learned a significant amount of information about what exactly Loki is/represents after watching the video but I sure was entertained by it. #BiscuitHo
@kbarts316
@kbarts316 3 жыл бұрын
I love Loki from the MCU too. He's my favorite character.
@thevoidismyhome7242
@thevoidismyhome7242 3 жыл бұрын
Loki being bi nowadays: People: How dare- Loki in the mythos being basically a trans-icon: You called?
@basicsimp8798
@basicsimp8798 2 жыл бұрын
The Christian God literally needed a rainbow to remind himself that drowning the world isn't good. Every Mythological God including the Christian God are all human in nature, the only difference with the Christian God is that people think his actions are good because he's a God? This is a literal God who sacrificed his son who is also him, so he can forgive humans for the sins of the original humans. Like, that's just stupid and highly manipulativr stuff right there.
@calebgoodman2076
@calebgoodman2076 3 жыл бұрын
I just hope Odin takes care of Sleipnir because I while I don’t know how often he sees his mom (Loki) you can be sure his father is not paying that child support! Also Sleipnir’s name means Slippy which is adorable.
@tarkrishablue8279
@tarkrishablue8279 3 жыл бұрын
Loki is Jesus confirmed
@tarkrishablue8279
@tarkrishablue8279 3 жыл бұрын
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ChrisTheDuck20
@ChrisTheDuck20 3 жыл бұрын
Ngl, other mythologies outside Christianity seem so kuch more colourful and interesting
@Suninrags
@Suninrags 3 жыл бұрын
The thing is old Judaism has cool stuff going on as well, I like the golem story especially
@ChrisTheDuck20
@ChrisTheDuck20 3 жыл бұрын
@@Suninrags idk much about Judaism. I know about vaguely about lilith, but thats about it
@e-wall199
@e-wall199 3 жыл бұрын
If you live in a Christian society you’re so used to it it’s boring, while other mythologies look exotic. That being said, there are some interesting things like looking into it and realizing just how many of the hundreds of Catholic and Orthodox saints are actually deities from religions Christianity took over and assimilated into itself by different names, they even retain a lot of their festivities
@ChrisTheDuck20
@ChrisTheDuck20 3 жыл бұрын
@@e-wall199 yeah. I guess your right. I guess the thing that makes it boring for me personally is the lack of compelling stories. Like you hear of g9dly adventures in other mythologies, of pantheons and (my favorite) that the gods arent flawless. I guess the main thing i find interesting that i see a pack of in Christianity is the human aspect to their god
@rotciv557
@rotciv557 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno man, listening to stories about how Jacob wrestled an angel, or about Jesus absolutely fucking up a fig tree for not having fruit, or Lot's daughters doing him while he was unconcious are pretty colorful, imo
@musicalmaniac2901
@musicalmaniac2901 3 жыл бұрын
2:19 Can confirm, I am incensed they thought those were jazz hands
@Starbeam1979
@Starbeam1979 11 ай бұрын
Funny thing is "jazz hands" is how you applaud in asl.
@KahavaveCAPIPI
@KahavaveCAPIPI 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to say that a big reason a lot of pre-christian gods were kind of dickish is because a lot of the ones we're familiar with are indo european. Which is to say, descended from the same root religion. Most faiths which didn't go through an Axial reformation (which I'm using more in the context of what Jaspers thought codified the difference between pre and post axial, rather than the more strict definition of the Axial Age) also just sort of had their gods be primarily representative of natural forces. Judaism (and thus the rest of the abrahamic faiths), Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, etc., had all been thinking of their faith in a different way. There was some development relatively late in indo european faiths and if Christianity had come like two or three centuries later we might have seen them evolve into something that bore some resemblance to Hinduism (which had gone through its own axial reformation), especially considering the contemporary developments in Neoplatonic Monism.
@appleciderhorror12
@appleciderhorror12 3 жыл бұрын
Also, the Christian god is just as petty as the pagan ones. Perhaps more jealous
@rotciv557
@rotciv557 3 жыл бұрын
@@appleciderhorror12 Yeah, people seem really keen to forget that the term "Old Testament God" exists for a reason. Pre-Christian Yahweh was just as mercurial and fickle as the Greco-Roman and, to a lesser extent, the Egyptian gods were. It was only after Christianization happened that he took on the more modern image of a super virtuous big good.
@sebastianwagner7334
@sebastianwagner7334 3 жыл бұрын
Oh God you did this, and so soon! I am really happy about this. Have a great night everyone!
@TomSketchit
@TomSketchit 3 жыл бұрын
Know done others have already recommended it, bit you definitely need to check out the Persephone video. It's another deep dive like this. Also just more OSP in general, basically all their videos are bangers. Would definitely love more reactions to Trope Talks.
@gregorycourtney1532
@gregorycourtney1532 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying they don't take liberties but its weird how much of this Norse stuff I can connect to Marvel's Thor stuff, especially recent. Primary examples one writer making Loki genderfluid, even shift gender and pronouns mid conversation and Thor even doing a version of that Odin on the world tree thing to learn a fundamental truth about himself and remake Mojiner after it was thrown into the sun. Thor did this in the sun.
@drakedarkest1627
@drakedarkest1627 2 жыл бұрын
14:12 ugh. You really don't want to challenge that. If you go to atheist channels, they can read horrible things the christian god did. Including but not limited to, unreasonable punishment, murder rate, horrid commands and stuff involving incest.
@Mare_Man
@Mare_Man 3 жыл бұрын
13:59 Someone hasn't cracked open the Old Testament in a while huh?
@Whysoshort
@Whysoshort 3 жыл бұрын
The Christian God highkey kinda sucks too. Hes honestly an emotionally abusive dad
@a.w.r3311
@a.w.r3311 3 жыл бұрын
9:45 Yo Skitten's reaction to that made it 1000% than the first time I watched. Now I'm cleaning water from my monitor
@volk551
@volk551 3 жыл бұрын
Loki's children did nothing wrong except be born. Hel is biracial, because Europeans didn't really know what that meant so they just made every biracial character a combination of white and black famous example of this one of the knights from the Arthurian Legend half-siblings is biracial and described as such black with white splotches. Midgard serpent was yeeted into the ocean because apparently Odin is afraid of snakes and poor little Fenris only crime was that he was really big, that's it.
@vivsika3137
@vivsika3137 3 жыл бұрын
Norse Pagan point of view Odin foresaw Fenrir becoming a dangerous being in vision and had him tied not even thinking about the fact that betraying him would set in motion Fenrirs wrath
@na5567
@na5567 3 жыл бұрын
You're forgetting the prophecy. While they hadn't done anything wrong inherently... the prophecy said they would. I mean its a moral grey area if acting on near certain knowledge of the future is moral or not, but it does give them grey area.
@Starbeam1979
@Starbeam1979 11 ай бұрын
That's a skin condition.
@JaredGillenwater
@JaredGillenwater 3 жыл бұрын
I would argue that the Christian God is very human in his own right. I mean, he makes bets with the the devil on human souls (story of Job). He is jealous and wrathful. He sins like the rest of us, Christians just see his sins as passable, because he's God... I personally think that's nonsense, and would never worship a being who demands, "Do as I say, not as I do." But my opinion on it is neither here nor there.
@silvertheelf
@silvertheelf 3 жыл бұрын
Old gods - chaotic, demand sacrifices, cool Christian god - god that switched from your average old god to a more modernized and acceptable civilized god.
@na5567
@na5567 3 жыл бұрын
Not really though, big G god is less rapey but thats about it.
@silvertheelf
@silvertheelf 3 жыл бұрын
@@na5567 less rapey than the Greek gods but more hypocritical than the Norse gods
@tyrondor5600
@tyrondor5600 3 жыл бұрын
OSP has a few more videos about norse mythology and they are absolutely worth checking out
@1Katakana
@1Katakana 3 жыл бұрын
The versions of the wall building jotun story that I've read says that Loki is the one who convinced the gods to accept the offer and to let the jotun build their wall under the condition that it most be done within 1 season (the jotun originally offered to build the wall within 3) and without help (minus the horse) , beliving it to be an impossible task with those limitations in place, and convinces the other gods of it as well, so that they wouldn't have to do all the work themselves. But when it looks like the jotun is going to do so after all, due to his abnormaly strong and obedient/loyal horse pulling all the heavy equpitment needed day and night, the gods force Loki to fix it somehow so that they don't have to actually end up paying up after all. And, and I'm less sure about this one as I can only remember having read that version once, but from what I remember Hel was actually given the underworld to rule over by Odin as a friendly/genuine gift/offer, as she was actually very well mannered and respectul, surprising Odin, and also because she prefered the company of the dead over the living. Also I think the world serpant would have grown to the size of the earth anyway (as I think it's said that both him and Fenris was growing at an alarming rate each day, so they tossed him into the sea as it would be the only thing that could house him). I think both stories was in Neil Gaiman's Norse Mythology book. Also also, from how I understand it, Hel became the ruler of the world Helheim (yes, they share names), not Niflheim (which is the world of ice/mist-one of the two worlds that excisted before everything else and created Ginnungagap). Helheim might have been in Niflheim, or seen as a place similar to it due to its coldness/darkness, but I think Helheim and Niflheim are two separate places as they both make up 1 part each on the list of the 9 worlds. Also, also, also, and this is just me guessing, maybe Odin only knows about the actual Ragnarok part of the prophecy, and not the aftermath stuff that comes after it. I realice it's probably unlikely as Odin is the god of knowledge/wisdom, but maybe, seeing how Odin didn't learn about Ragnarok through his own cunning/investigation, but through being told about it by a volva (a norse seer/shaman), at least according to one source I came across. And this is also just me guessing, but it could perhaps be that Odin whispered in Balder's ear because he knew his spirit would be "alive" in Hel, so whatever he said wasn't completely lost. Also (I'm writing that word a lot. Sorry) , considering Loki has the act of helping in kidnapping the goddess Idunn, possibly being partly responsible for crippling one of Thor's goats (depending on which source you read) and keeping Balder from coming back alive under his belt, I personally doesn't feel that his actions that lead to Balder's death is too out there for him.
@RyokoAsakuraLastFan
@RyokoAsakuraLastFan 3 жыл бұрын
Is Loki the source of "Tangled in a web of lies"
@Darkios2000
@Darkios2000 3 жыл бұрын
There's actually an audiobook of the norse mythology. It's pretty good and i think you can find it here on youtube.
@liamcool2139
@liamcool2139 3 жыл бұрын
Time stamp 14:27 THAT IS THE POINT. Even I as a pagan would say that what you said isn’t offensive it’s just facts b
@oryxcalrissian6917
@oryxcalrissian6917 2 жыл бұрын
@SkittenSays 14:23 interesting that you say this. We often think of gods as moral paragons, beings of infinite wisdom and virtue, but that's not always how the ancients did. If you even go back and read the Old Testament, you'll see God doing things that seem unnecessary, if not completely brutal. That's why, at least in my opinion, they didn't see gods as ideals of what they could be, but as representations of what is, regardless of good or bad. That's why the pantheons of old are full of capricious and fickle gods, because they were representations of the many facets of humanity itself. After all, if we are made in the image of God (or the gods), would it not make sense that since we are flawed, that they would be too?
@kylejohnson3889
@kylejohnson3889 3 жыл бұрын
Omg a hellsing ultimate ost in a history video....my life is complete
@Gidi66
@Gidi66 3 жыл бұрын
"poor Fenrir" yea but what about Tyr? Fenrir is just tied up tyr straight up lost a hand ✋
@qixiaotianmonkiekid4789
@qixiaotianmonkiekid4789 2 жыл бұрын
yea but he agreed to it, so its not that big of a deal for tyr
@Subrees
@Subrees 3 жыл бұрын
Girl, your name made me google pokemon. How is Skitten not a Pokemon???
@trademarkissues035
@trademarkissues035 3 жыл бұрын
I was confused because I was pretty sure they had actually. I was half correct because Skitty is a pokemon and I would say the names are close enough to count as the same thing. I wish you best fortune in your future endeavors.
@Subrees
@Subrees 3 жыл бұрын
@@trademarkissues035 Truthfully thought that it was a pre-evolution of skitty. I thought skitty was adorable so I wanted to see a kitten version of it.
@charlesdaugherty321
@charlesdaugherty321 3 жыл бұрын
14:05 Thats because old cultures understood the golden rule of all things. Might makes right. Gods were in charge not because of their nature, but because of their strength alone. Edit: Now playing to Loki... Brining the boy back!
@masterman2224
@masterman2224 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the story of the "entangler" is supposed to be confusing and incomplete
@elementalsgami1
@elementalsgami1 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, you should watch her Stranger in a Strange Land vid. Real fun time and one of my personal favorites.
@Littlekoji-df1cf
@Littlekoji-df1cf 3 жыл бұрын
I Love that she said sorry about that14:43🤣
@shatteredslime1593
@shatteredslime1593 5 ай бұрын
if you havent, you should totally do osps video on artemis and apollo. its one of my favs
@henryrozelaar3887
@henryrozelaar3887 Жыл бұрын
8:00 you may wish to consult a medical professional but I diagnose you with terminal student
@doktordanomite9105
@doktordanomite9105 2 жыл бұрын
7:50 now you know how pagans feel CONSTANTLY
@ottomackensen
@ottomackensen 3 жыл бұрын
The Christian God drowned the world because they didn't love him enough
@samuelunwin3094
@samuelunwin3094 3 жыл бұрын
as someone who is currently reading the prose edda I would recommend to read norse mythological books
@hanaomer4419
@hanaomer4419 3 жыл бұрын
I love those tamarind candies! I’m fasting and now I’m craving them 🥲
@shadowstep1375
@shadowstep1375 3 жыл бұрын
Just throwing it out there the Christian god literally cursed an entire people so their first sons would die because they wouldn't accept him. And that's only one of the atrocities he committed for extremely petty reasons. The Christian God is by no means faultless.
@ebanker1
@ebanker1 3 жыл бұрын
The whole pagan gods are human are why I'm agnostic. It makes the gods understandable, easier to understand.
@berilsevvalbekret772
@berilsevvalbekret772 3 жыл бұрын
'Unlike christian god' lady have you read the old testiment?
@mrshadow4007
@mrshadow4007 3 жыл бұрын
React to one of Overly Sarcastic Productions Trope Talks!
@Shythalia
@Shythalia 3 жыл бұрын
Lovecraftian gods are on a whole 'nother level though.
@essjay1944
@essjay1944 3 жыл бұрын
one of the things that describes the christian god is that he is VERY VERY petty
@HANSHEQ
@HANSHEQ 3 жыл бұрын
Skitten with the gourmet nutella
@analolipop6073
@analolipop6073 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video!💜
@mejestin
@mejestin 3 жыл бұрын
no girl... loki is NOT lucifer. hi look the pressident of holland got white hair... like the pressident of USA.. can they be the same person?
@religionisatragedy8537
@religionisatragedy8537 3 жыл бұрын
Um the christian god is very human like in his flaws
@dansattah
@dansattah 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the Christian god technically covet human worship under the threat of hell?
@ECStarProductions
@ECStarProductions 3 жыл бұрын
your hair is gorgeous
@Zilch.0
@Zilch.0 3 жыл бұрын
28:30 Not true. Cobwebs in swedish: Spindelnät. Litterally translates to 'spider net'. Never heard anyone call them anything else.
@RaphaelRavenwing
@RaphaelRavenwing 3 жыл бұрын
Read the old testament sometime. God's got the high score on the body count machine.
@Riot_Bird
@Riot_Bird 3 жыл бұрын
8:08 Same lol Same 😆
@theonewholives5414
@theonewholives5414 2 жыл бұрын
How about you take 2 seconds and look up the Spanish Inquisition or the Salem witch trials and tell me again that the Christian God isn't as bad as every other fictional non-existent deity on this planet. And if you got something to say about that then how about you take a few minutes to take whatever deity you believe in and actually genuinely compare them to Santa Claus and try to still tell me that they exist.
@johannesvonmalos7505
@johannesvonmalos7505 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a spoon? Or is it A chewy food?
@Biochemguy
@Biochemguy 3 жыл бұрын
Straight up, this not fair use of this material. You can't play the entirety of someone else's video with like 10 seconds of commentary every 5 minutes and call it fair use. You can especially tell by the comments, which are all about the OSP video, and not about your "commentary" that people are here to watch that part of the video. You're just lucky the OSP folks haven't noticed or arent' more litigious, because they could have this taken down.
@volie-zz
@volie-zz 3 жыл бұрын
loki is my g banana
@roccojohnson4600
@roccojohnson4600 3 жыл бұрын
There actually are people out there that still worship old religions. Norse, Greek, etc. Look it up.
@soledsnak6632
@soledsnak6632 3 жыл бұрын
You gotta watch OSP's Hades vid!
@youngslayer9399
@youngslayer9399 3 жыл бұрын
How is this the first time I’m noticing the tattoo in ur shoulder
@George-um2rt
@George-um2rt 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Skitten, react to Anti-hero Trope next :)
@robinschicha4712
@robinschicha4712 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah!! 👍
@oliviawilliams6204
@oliviawilliams6204 3 жыл бұрын
Lady, read back the Old Testament, the Christian God is very wrathful and fickle
@Someone2aswell
@Someone2aswell 3 жыл бұрын
First time I've seen someone react to osp
@Desdemona-XI
@Desdemona-XI 10 ай бұрын
The thing with most of the old gods is they weren't *good* they weren't *Meant* to be avatars of good, justice or virtue, Most of them are designed to be avatars of Truth. of "This is what the world is, this is what we are" Gods represented the aspect they held domain over, Storms, seas, fire, the sun, war, birth, death, beasts, etc, these are all things that have more than one side to them, things that arent good or evil inherently, theyre just facts of life Zeus was an arrogant, sexist pig, who cared little for consent, and did exactly what he felt like almost all of the time, irrespective of how many were left weeping in his wake because Ancient greek kings often were exactly that, and so are storms, and what is Zeus but a storm-king? Ares was the figure of Battle-rage, of pure combat. Ares was malevolent but also rarely a liar, or cunning manipulator, except to get people to start brawling, thats all he ever cared about, a good brawl, and maybe a post-brawl bone. A soldiers god, "dont think too hard, go out there and kick some ass" Whereas, Athena was more the General's Goddess, Guiding someone who had to Decide *how* war was to be waged. when and where to advance and retreat. As her domain was about strategy in war, and invention, and as such was more reasonable than ares, as a tactician is more reasonable than someone who is full of battle rage and wants to see what your blood looks like on that wall. But she also had flaws, A little arrogance, a lot of pride, and a bit of superiority, all traits commonly found in even the most benevolent tactician, when talking to a jarhead grunt.
@chill-lady-brook
@chill-lady-brook 3 жыл бұрын
Wooo
@dynamosaurusimperious6341
@dynamosaurusimperious6341 3 жыл бұрын
Well this was good Skitten video. Also hope your day has been awesome,caude mine has been.
@kelvinpool218
@kelvinpool218 3 жыл бұрын
What's on her spoon?
@SkittenSays
@SkittenSays 3 жыл бұрын
Tell me you skipped the intro without telling me you skipped the intro 🙃🙃🙃
@kelvinpool218
@kelvinpool218 3 жыл бұрын
@@SkittenSays I did watch the intro. I didn't actually pay attention to any of it and now I know it's a tamarind. congrats on the vax!!
@thend4427
@thend4427 3 жыл бұрын
I saw her video in my recommendation lol
@Ace-ym9hz
@Ace-ym9hz 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Skitten do you have a discord
@kelog5446
@kelog5446 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the hands thing was Bruce Lee hands...but anyways
@jasonbell791
@jasonbell791 3 жыл бұрын
Chili tamarind is delicious!
@LyionOfRoses
@LyionOfRoses 3 жыл бұрын
I know this an old video but the Christian god isn’t very much better, then the older gods what’s really what happened is the evolution of morality in human civilization.When human morality evolved so did the religions that still exist today. if those religions wanted to maintain and continue to grow they needed to reform or the people would leave/never join.
@reneepathos
@reneepathos 3 жыл бұрын
💐
@mattward4198
@mattward4198 3 жыл бұрын
I personally am a Christian but I appreciate Norse mythology I think it's a good story but I don't think it's truth
@vivsika3137
@vivsika3137 3 жыл бұрын
I personally am a Norse Pagan but I also appreciate many of the Christian stories lmao
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