Perfectly Reroofing Croup Manor 🏠 Fallout 4 No Mods Shop Class

In this highly requested video, I'll show you how to rebuild the ceiling and floor for the upper area in Croup Manor while adding a functional sunroom all in one fell swoop!
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[@enterthehat]

In my last playthrough I had a ghoul that kept respawning but non-hostile. He'd just stand there outside around back and twitch about. I gave him a little doghouse, a light, and a beach umbrella, and named him Terrence.

[@SkooledZone]

😂😅

[@c2s2942]

Terrence seems pretty chill. I think you did good

[@buddyhoss]

I can't believe I get to make a comment 3 hrs after a new No Mods Shop Class video is posted to KZbin in 2024. A month ago, I found this channel and watched about every vid in the playlist. Thanks for the videos!

[@buddyhoss]

Have you started playing on the XBox Series X, yet? Or still using the last gen Fallout 4?

[@neonnerd1364]

I can't believe it's not butter.

[@SkooledZone]

Thanks man. No I haven't started playing on my Series X yet. Not everyone has one and I want to make sure all my tips are accessible to everyone. But it probably won't be long before I migrate over.

[@buddyhoss]

@@SkooledZone I'm curious to see how your way-over-the-limit settlements perform with the new hardware.

[@saltybits9954]

​@@buddyhoss You mean you don't know about the settlement size glitch?

[@ThisHorrorFilmDoesNotExist]

You have been SORELY missed.

[@vicmatesi1472]

I was literally just working on Croup Manor and getting frustrated when this posted. Thanks a million.

[@HermanBogaers]

I've been building on settlements and restart building for ten years now. Seen all settlements build by others. Won't bother me showing my settlements on YT as well. Mine is different anyway, like yours will be too. Just continue building and showing your style.

[@soribnoraa]

Croup... *shudders* ...Manor. Nice work on this fix for it! I never think to build on the side then place the module after its built. Genius!

[@christopherconard2831]

That's how I rebuilt Sanctuary. Made an entire house, then moved it inside one of the existing buildings. More accurately, built the new interior, tried moving it, cussed at whoever came up with this system, found the bottle/dead radroach/whatever that was blocking me, tried again (and again with renewed cussing), and eventually got it to fit once I figured out I was trying to put it in the wrong existing building.

[@piggymaster3209]

Another great building tip you can do: make your HUD color fully black. the reason you do that is because for whatever reason, the colored outline matches your HUD color so by making it black, you remove any colored outline and it makes lining things up waaay easier. The red outline doesn't get removed so that helps too

[@CadillacJak]

The campfire trick just blew my mind

[@WebShaman01]

Yep. Mine as well. That is something I did not know.

[@Shado0911]

So, dumb question, if campfire works as dirt, could that be used as a glitch at the airport for food/water and to make an ACTUAL No-Mods settlement?

[@WebShaman01]

@@Shado0911 Well, you have "dirt" at the Airport, so you can actually do food/water there.

[@bmorehead]

@@WebShaman01 Well what about the machinists lair?

[@mattw8814]

​@@WebShaman01the workshop menu at the airport is missing the food tab so no, you can't

[@zcothamx7279]

You can literally build all the walls and floors outside of the manor. Using the pillar glitch and start with a floor at the door near the motorcycle. It's hard to explain but you can build the whole thing outside the home and keep checking back using the pillar glitch as you go and repositioning the fixed parts then take it out add a wall ext. and just build the whole thing separate. Wish I had a channel to show it. :) Love the fire glitch. I've learned a ton from you!

[@patrickmesker8355]

There’s a video on here that shows exactly this. It’s old but still works great

[@zcothamx7279]

That’s probably where I got it from! 😁

[@rabblerouser5301]

The return of the king

[@mairirose5843]

This place gives me nightmares, lol. I have recommended your build videos to so many people. You are the best…thx to you my Sanctuary ( with no mods at all) is so awesome. I couldn’t be more pleased and every time I start over it just gets better and better. I can’t thank you enough for these great videos. I’m wondering if you have thoughts on Hangman’s Alley…..that’s another trouble spot for me🤔

[@SkooledZone]

Thanks for the kind words (and spreading the word)! Yeah, Hangman's Alley is a tough-one. I haven't tried anything there yet because I can't think of a "theme" I want for it yet. Maybe someday something will inspire me.

[@waltermosito1544]

Hangman's Alley is a trouble spot for everyone 😭😭 lol I see a lot of people are doing markets/red light district type of themes over there. Not gonna lie, some of them look awesome.

[@toakongu1]

When the community needed him most, he returned. Hail to the King!!

[@Stonejenson]

Like others, 8 years ago I never did much building, but after deciding to replay after watching the TV show, I loaded up my old disc, already had main DLCs, got the next gen update and have been having a blast! Then I saw these awesome build videos and bought the workshop DLCs (They are about £4 each on PS in the UK) and...wow, I'm discovering a whole new world of fun thanks to you!

[@scottyshedd9586]

This place was the first build I was truly proud of. This was before any of the dlc, and finding your channel. I used the small and full floor to fit the roof. I used rugs to cover all the wholes.

[@hynekbroz7029]

For so many years I played with mods. Now when I can no longer play with them, KZbin recommends me your channel. Best algorithm decision ever. I watched almost everything in retrospective and I want to thank you so much. For some reason, being free to do whatever I wanted with mods sort of killed my imagination. Now my mind is brimming with so many clever ideas and I am having time of my life in Fallout settlements. And this came at the perfect moment. I may have to redo something on my Croup Manor but your idea is super neat!

[@jamesstobaugh]

I love this whole series.

[@gzero26]

I have to be honest. I dont use mods at all when playing Fallout 4. I know, I know blasphemous. but, I enjoy the building as is in the game and using the ingame tricks to build how I want rather than downloading the Place Anywhere mod. I feel that using the in game tricks it puts limitations on you and breeds creativity. Just me tho. its awesome that after these many years that this series is still on going. thank you for all the No Mod Shop Class videos. they have been alot of help....heres to many more!!

[@halottember3429]

Wow it’s been a while ! You’re one of the few people that I recommend for hard builds and glitches. I can always count on your ideas .

[@Phoenix2312]

Love it! I like Croup Manor but it is hard to do anything with.... I love this idea!!! I did manage to get that area useable on a previous save... Still have that one actually... Managed to Pillar Glitch some floors in but this looks so much nicer!

[@kheph777]

OMG I am soooo happy to see the Skooled Zone tutorials back again! :) :) :)

[@Trooperuss]

Love croup manor, this and Taffington. Thanks for the build vid.

[@PiggySage]

I am always so excited when you post. I never used to be big on the settlement aspect of the game but thanks to your videos it isn't as frustrating

[@rieskorin2027]

Another great vid Paul. Your creativity is showing no signs of fading, a really unique solution here. As others have said, it is possible to do the whole building in one go, floors, interior walls and all but the door way you made is super clean, whereas doing the entire building in on does leave a janky edge on the right of that doorway. Maybe a combo of the the two methods would be perfection. PLK 👍

[@FujitheChef]

Been trying to figure out what to build there. You might explore the building height option. You can actually build pretty high at Croup. Was thinking about building a skyscraper and/or light house design there since it is close to water. Thanks for the rebuild tip video. Fixing it up will be way easier now 👌

[@SkooledZone]

You bet. And you know actually, while I was building the roof of the sunroom, I was thinking about how easy it would be to add a second story to it. Then you could built back over on top of the original house and then continue upwards 😉

[@vavaara9032]

Great video as usual. Croup and I have come to an understanding over my many plays, but I know this will help a lot of people.

[@enterthehat]

Respect. I'm learning how to fiddle with some things in Fallout that I haven't known all these years, AND I'm learning random terminology and trivia.

[@shadomane]

That is an awesome fix! Great class and great ideas! Thanks for the video and thanks for sharing your thoughts, ideas and experience with us.

[@danbauer3669]

I am a student of the no mods so class! Glad to see you again!

[@vez87]

Phenomenal work. The pillar and firepit tip is wild!!

[@sofiablomquist8394]

A truely creative choice. I might use that idea. I have used the old roof for hiding power, so I tend to build a set of stairs up from that balcony, but power can be sunk into the cliffs instead. ❤

[@brianporter447]

I have played this game for a long time. Every time i start a settlement that needs clearing, i solo it and agro characters off property. Makes it easy. Just agro them past the boundaries then kill. The planter also works the same as the campfire.

[@SkooledZone]

Yes, the garden plot also works. I use the campfire more often just because it's more compact.

[@brianporter447]

@SkooledZone I figured. Was just mentioning for new players really.

[@_mylastname]

This is awesome. I wish i knew these tricks years ago, but I'm happy to finally know them now. Thank you

[@shamanllama]

I'm SOOO glad you're still going!!

[@SkooledZone]

😁

[@ashleeaustin358]

This was wonderful! I was really struggling with the walls and floors of that place. Im glad i found your channel becuse now i have been using that pillar method and remaking my settlements in the way i originally had planned. Thanks!!❤

[@SkooledZone]

Glad I could help!

[@Raymon18]

Nice to see another video from you🎉

[@Jaxom35x]

So cool. I had built it up as just a deck/guard station. I'm going to have to go back in and redo that whole area. Great build.

[@Thelordmagedon]

Just wanted to say thank you for all your help witb Tutorials! I've been building in F4 for years, and I'm working on my masterpiece Vault 88 right now!

[@vesuvanprincess]

Great idea, I'm definitely going to use this.

[@csb78nm]

I did something similar in other play throughs, but this is far cooler! Thanks!

[@ProfessorSillyGaming]

Another great lesson-thank you for all the inspiration!

[@leonssuperbia5003]

Been watching your videos for years glad your still here 🎉🎉🎉❤

[@SkooledZone]

Thanks for being such a longtime viewer 👊

[@F_Y_F_T_Y]

Omg, welcome back 🎉🎉I've missed your videos

[@DanteMac26]

This is actually one of my favorite places to build! At least once the barn and warehouse doc came out. They make the walls really easy to fix, both interior and exterior! You can make the courtyard into a marketplace, farm on the cliff,and put a ceiling fan right where it will play whack-a-corpse all day!

[@SkooledZone]

"...put a ceiling fan right where it will play whack-a-corpse all day!" 😂

[@AdriDelPino]

I discovered your channel a few weeks ago, when looking for a way to get rid of the ghoul remains in Croup's Manor... I've managed to clean most of them, and built a little junk mortar for the ones that refuse to leave 😅 and I'm loving your videos, you gave me a lot of inspiration and I'm learning a lot of new tricks! Cheers!

[@SkooledZone]

Getting rid of ghouls with a junk mortar 😅 Reminds me of this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXiTY42bjN6CkM0

[@armyscout92]

Excellent! New content, I love it.

[@Samanthagribbin]

This is so helpful managed to add an upper floor to this as well thanks you 😊

[@jasongodfrey4158]

With the next Gen update for Fallout 4, I've been going back to all the No Mods Shop Class videos to brush up on my building skills.

[@shawncotton356]

The MAN IS BACK!!!

[@HermanBogaers]

All outside walls most walls indoors and al floors and roofs can be fixed in the same way. You need to start at the bottom and build the next floor on top. Pretty hard way of building and I am loving it. You can have Group Manor always almost perfect lol. So my old time teacher, the post trick. The barn post is even better and easier to use. Just one of the four sides of the pole will get you closer to the object, works so with all pillars and posts. So you need to figure out which side that is first. Pick up the post to high or to low or to close by, the trick won't work or your view will be hindered, so place and angle are indeed the worst part to figure out. Save and quick saves are both mandatory. a save for each floor maybe even two hard saves for each floor.

[@scottmatthews2589]

It’s so good to hear that music agar glad your back dude Remember last time I commented I said to drop back on to starfield now look at the boom that’s had

[@GinBunny89]

THANK YOU Croup Manor is one of my favorite settlements edit: Also my hubby and I have been binging your videos over the last few months playing fallout together 🥰

[@SkooledZone]

Haha, that's awesome! Couples that game together, stay together 💞

[@herb3578]

Looks great! I might try this after church today! Happy Father’s Day fellas!

[@raynibbs4679]

Hey Schooled Zone! Hahahahah! I laugh because I have been following you since you first started. Very great to see you still going. Gotta admit I have been lurking a bit, but when I (re) saw this one I just had to say hi. Best of luck sir and I am looking forward to many more!

[@SkooledZone]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@brokeitbenjy]

Replaying fo4 again and just recently rebuilt Croup Manor exterior walls, interior floors and roof. Did it using techniques from your videos. Cheers dude.

[@SkooledZone]

Nice work!

[@shadowdragon041]

Good to see you making fo 4 videos again

[@crunchynetto6979]

the last 30hrs out of 400+hrs playing fallout 4, taking lesson from your vids on how to build stuffs. thanks mate~ 😊

[@arlandmichelenavillegas3753]

😂🎉🎉🎉 hello there my friend! It makes me so happy to see a new video from you

[@hoegild1]

That campfire trick.. pure genius!

[@CRYOKnox]

Nice to see you back on building again. My last Crucks... Croup Manor build is quite old by now on my part-time Raider Boss. I made extensive use of the white and red checkered floor from the creation club because it's such a damn game changer. I also build a glass walled garden on the damaged roof but I prefer to stay in the boundaries of this white rim. Most of the times I start there and build down from it until I have a clean level pass into the existing structure. Which means I have to stick in the wall extra but I don't mind that if the roofs better align with the existing walls. But I'm also that crazy to re glas the windows...

[@jamespeters8532]

YES! So glad to see these videos again! Cant wait for more, and maybe some from FO76? new map expansion has great spots for CAMPS

[@glidershower]

Welcome back, man!

[@lahainanoon5838]

I grew up in Nahant so you’ve inspired me to finally tackle Group Manor next on my build list:) Thank you!

[@theinsaneshecklador6598]

That's pretty cool you get to build in your old stomping grounds.

[@lahainanoon5838]

The locations are pretty accurate in the game to real life except the placement of the police station and the church are a bit off. My guess is Croup Manor is meant to be the Cary Street Club (where my parents have been members my whole life).

[@theinsaneshecklador6598]

@@lahainanoon5838 👍

[@theinsaneshecklador6598]

@@lahainanoon5838 The building does look similar.

[@todd.cannon]

I've been wondering what you'd do with Croup Manor and you not only did that but also showed me new tips on pillar glitching! Now I think I can fix the walls in a house I've already got floors in thanks to the campfire method! I'd love to see what you'd do or have done with Taffington Boathouse. That repair has me stumped so far. Great video, thanks!

[@SkooledZone]

Taffington is actually in my next video, so you're in luck! :)

[@BeefyBacardi]

I normally turn Croup Manner into a brothel-looking place. This is much better than any of the attempts I made to class up the joint. Now my clientele has a place to wait for a room to open up.

[@patrickmesker8355]

Haha I also do this. I’ve got neon lights on the house saying “Red light manor”

[@SkooledZone]

😂 Make sure you use those king-sized beds: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHuZq3inlrh0m7M

[@nevindetert1153]

You really helped me out with the building in Fallout 4 i really am not good at building so thanks alot

[@arracosner8552]

Soooo glad you're back making these videos....WE'VE MISSED YOU. (family of gamers)

[@Shae_Sandybanks]

Looks great!!

[@SkooledZone]

Thanks!

[@Gunahurt]

Finally the master is back

[@OnilEsguerra]

Great work

[@olbrin123]

Excellent. I have been looking for ways to actaully use the manor house.

[@theabhominal8131]

with this games resurgence i have realized that i have been watching your videos since early to mid 2016

[@SkooledZone]

Nice! Thanks for being such a longtime viewer :)

[@greenjello]

That was beautiful! I glitched in wall and ceiling repairs but hit build limits before getting too fancy. I always have to build decent defenses which uses up a fair chunk of my build limits. I do try to attend all fights when I can… so that kinda helps me to justify the drain on limits. Kinda. If I rebuild Croup a third time, I’ll see if I can build that observatory… and maybe go one square wider around back, side and front if I can. Thanks for keepin’ on keepin’ on! ;-)

[@SkooledZone]

Yeah, I wanted to build one square back too but I couldn't find any decent vertical half-walls. If you come up with a solution, let me know.

[@Shado0911]

Paul, great to see you back in the classroom again!! I noticed that the next-gen updates have killed the mods but what about the various wireless, rug glitches etc -- VERY happy to see pillar glitch is still a thing though!! 😁😁😁

[@SkooledZone]

Thanks! And all the glitches should still work unless you have certain mods installed: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rny7ZXhnrraen8k

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you , Skooled Zone . 🐺Loupis Canis .

[@SkooledZone]

You bet 👊

[@tchellosilveira]

Amazing !!

[@christopherconard2831]

Thanks. About the most I've done with Croup is use the double floors to reroof the big hole. Then expand out from the carport. I usually only use it as a turnaround point for a couple provisioners, and home to a few brahmin.

[@jamessaxton4285]

Awesome!!

[@zatanna5125]

what a brilliant idea 🤩

[@SkooledZone]

Thank you! 😊

[@higgs923]

Missed you!

[@Kittinthehatlady]

It looks great!

[@SkooledZone]

Thanks!

[@MrFunkster]

This video just got recommended to me, and that is such a weird coincidence because in my new playthrough, I just discovered Croup Manor this morning. The beach resort environment intrigued me to settle here, but as I was walking through it, I was thinking to myself, why would I want to use this dump as a settlement? There are so many missing walls that are going to be such a PITA to patch up. Do I really want the headache that comes with this property? But now I have a "No Mods Shop Class tutorial" to make it a settlement I'd like. Gotta love fate.

[@charmer23]

all hail the King. Skooled forever!

[@SrChr778]

Okay, there's an idea, a sunbathing room. I just improvise that area as an open patio. But yeah, that's another idea.

[@wolfen210959]

Nice job. :)

[@markshields5522]

That was awesome. I did a vault tec build with a restaurant in that space that worked out well years ago. I'm adding vids on my channel where I recreated the carvana building with better ways to move cars. Great ways to hide wires as well. Especially with street lights. I don't want to use the wifi glitch. That can easily break your game

[@derek2297]

So cool. I would love to see what you do with crap... I mean croup manor. I think it's one of the most challenging but has a ton of potential.

[@slumgummy]

I have nothing but respect for people who are able to do amazing things like this with vanilla FO4's janky, unfinished building system

[@serpintinelion8926]

New Skooled zone video sleep can wait.

[@nevindetert1153]

I actually did 2 of them for each side works very well

[@winterburden]

Amazing.

[@luciocassio]

Well done.. thank you

[@SkooledZone]

Welcome 👍

[@ErzengelDesLichtes]

9:56 "Floor - upper" means it's a Floor/Ceiling combo. It's meant to be the floor of the second story so you don't have to have a ceiling part underneath the floor, which is why it's "double stuffed"

[@SkooledZone]

Right, of course. It's just funny because in theory, Floor Upper = Ceiling and Ceiling Lower = Floor 😂

[@davidbright8978]

Be nice if fallout 4 had a feature where you could of just repaired the building

[@user-rd7px9hp6n]

Genius I didn't know about the fire glitch. I have been using farm plots to plant water pumps inside buildings and poke the faucet through the wall over a tub for indoor plumbing. I only have vanilla gameplay.

[@user-rd7px9hp6n]

Oh I forgot to mention it is a combination of farm plots plus rug glitch. 😊

[@SkooledZone]

Yeah, the garden plots work a little like the campfire but usually use the campfire because it's more compact and can fit into tight spaces.

[@incendi4ry]

Damn it, do I need to redo my Croup Manor now because of this video...... 😅 🎉

[@markshields5522]

Well playing on ps 5 I have no console commands. Those aren't even needed. When you build a recruitment radio beacon to get more settlers go 4 to the right and build the vault-tec population management system. That will let you find your companions if you forgot where you sent them. It will track companions that you have unlocked and don't know where to find them. It will allow you to recall a provisioner and assign them to an in settlement job. I recommend scavenger station.

[@hickerystixx9246]

Great video!! I would like to see a mechanist lair build

[@SkooledZone]

I usually like some sunshine but I will add it to the list ;-)

[@FranksDrumCave]

Time for Skool!

[@folcotook3049]

Another thought on what to do with the parapets, especially if you do have them off center where one side has space for plants, but the other doesn't. On the "short" side, you could rug glitch in some counters/bars/etc to cover that strip and also make it look like something that belongs in the room. After all, you need storage for your tea service and a counter for your evening hors d'oeuvres in the solarium before moving to the dining room for the dinner party. 😉

[@SkooledZone]

Brilliant!

[@GampoEC]

In 5 years, 3 playthroughs, 100s of hours building. I never knew you could move your selection using the bumpers.

[@SkooledZone]

Well you definitely want to check out this video then ;-) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXXdkmill9F3Z8k

[@river9548]

Perfect~