What Happened to Xerneas and Yveltal??

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[@fallenerror6524]

0:57 he actually predicted it

[@syan2240]

Lmaoo

[@shockedwooloo6723]

I was just about to comment that even though this vid came out 3 months ago

[@raybaban1635]

Yep How does he do it

[@DracoMeteor91]

anyone could predict it. it was so obvious

[@fallenerror6524]

@@DracoMeteor91 wrong

[@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan]

Everybody is wondering where the Tapus and Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde are, but everybody forgot about the Ultra Beasts.

[@FlygonkingVGC]

Ultra who lol. I only know the paradox mons. Tapus that cut hp in half who. I only know about the ruins that cut hp in half

[@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan]

@@FlygonkingVGC ultra beasts? Like Guzzlord and Nihilego?

[@FlygonkingVGC]

@@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan I was making a joke

[@zweipinguine]

I want my blue Blacephalon back! And Xurkitree! I need them

[@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan]

@@zweipinguine and Poipole! That's currently locked to the 3Ds shiny wise

[@aprildesy4133]

"game freak worries about pokemon balance" dude this is the same company that released zacian

[@royalgelly8948]

and Calyrex Shadow, and Miraidon, and Urshifu

[@necrozma4029]

(coughs in Gen 1 Mewtwo and Mega Rayquaza)

[@zyella277]

@@necrozma4029 Mewtwo in gen 1 was meant to be THE best mon no questions asked, broken on purpose. It was a hidden boss mon , pvp was very last minute edition to gen 1 ,(because nintendo wanted them to do it) Gamefreak orginaly dint have plans for any pvp, and mewtwo was 100% designed with that in mind

[@necrozma4029]

@@zyella277 fair, but they should've known that a Pokemon with 154 special would've broken the metagame

[@spiderkid1230]

RIGHT?! THEY HAD TO MAKE ONE OF MY FAVORITE LEGENDARY POKEMON IN GEN 8, THEN LITERALLY DITCH THE 3 MOST BROKEN POKEMON EVER

[@yungmuney5903]

"Worry about pokemon balance." Pfft, okay sure 😂.

[@GravityIsFalling]

Except they clearly care, just in weird ways Raging bolt and ogerpon are perfect examples of mons os obviously designed around competitive

[@yungmuney5903]

​@@GravityIsFalling Meanwhile urshifu says 🖕 to any defensive plays.

[@GravityIsFalling]

@@yungmuney5903 You literally proved my point tho The obvious solution is to nerf urshifu but for some reason they don’t want to, so instead they add 2 mons clearly designed to beat urshifu They care, in weird ways

[@TheRedStinger82]

Lmao. Here's a fun fact. In competitve singles, Calyrex Shadow Rider got banned from the tier of banned Pokemon within just a few days after it's release with Pokemon home because of how broken it was with tera. Its best check (being yveltal) isn't in the game either to counter it

[@Blitzbrie]

Came here to say this lmao. There's frikkin Calyrex Shadow in this game. C'mon now

[@casper4263]

With the new game announced it kinda becomes clear that it was in fact pokemon Z

[@andrewmagirias4377]

DID BRO CALL IT?!?!?

[@Sylveon-vimp_wooloo]

This aged well

[@Shutmylazer]

Reminder to come back to this video when they announce Xerneas and Yvelyal tera raids on Pokémon day and laugh at the idea that Game Freak cares about Balance

[@雪者]

Rodger Rodger!

[@ogluigi]

Well, boss. I don't think they're gonna do that

[@terrancelord5185]

Well it wasn’t that

[@jonathanflanagan1504]

Even speaking now with the hindsight of Legends Z-A, that was never going to happen. You could still transfer Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina before the raid event, Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde are fully barred from entry. They'd have to update the game to MAKE them available, just for a raid event, and they don't update the game to allow more pokemon except alongside the release of DLC, usually to allow the pokemon that are IN that DLC.

[@cubeofmeat4982]

0:58 Well well well

[@royalgelly8948]

and here we are..

[@quantumraptor1485]

Well well well… now we have our answer

[@gabrielchee8470]

I guess this theory sort of makes sense, except urshifu kinda destroys it like it does protect... right? (Same with the calyrexes)

[@joshuab3918]

they're strong but they're not already adding multipliers to other strong mons. If anything, Chi Yu and Chien Pao are the ones we should be raising our eyebrows at. besides, I think it makes more sense for them to emphasize last gen's DLC over legendaries from a decade ago, at least from a business perspective.

[@Emma-rw8yo]

I don't think a failure in balance in some places is evidence that balance is not something they are capable of considering

[@Marco-fs9bs]

it seems like they always bring back some important pokèmon from the last generation (like galar and hisui starters, hisuian forms and mons, and galar legendaries) it also happened with gen 8 if i remember correctly, they brought back alola starters and legendaries via home because it was the last generation before the current one at that time

[@CrimpyPlate]

Maybe bc it'd be weird to not include them just one generation after their debut?

[@spiderkid1230]

at least they have Urshifu

[@talonitex6441]

Fairy aura boosted Tera fairy flutter mane, we dodged a bullet

[@yungmuney5903]

It wouldn't be that big of a deal if Flutter mane's stats weren't designed by a 12 year old.

[@GravityIsFalling]

…you know you can just Tera fairy with the x deer right? Even zacian can’t live a +2 Tera fairy moon blast

[@vanquish1333]

And Proto boost from Groudon

[@Endershock1678]

@@yungmuney5903 Flutter Mane’s stats are just Mismagius stats with the 570 every paradox mon gets. If anything, it’s the typing that they didn’t think through, having 3 immunities and only 2 barely relevant weakness.

[@ogeid772]

But is that really that much stronger than Beads of Ruin Tera Fairy Flutter Mane tho? Pairing it with Chi-Yu gives it a 25% boost in damage instead of 33% but that difference is kinda small if you really think about it.

[@srilankansuperstar]

They just didn’t include them because they are going to get game breaking mega evolutions in Legends Z-A

[@gomethins7738]

I’m honestly not sure this is the reason because chien pao+zacian and chi yu+calyrex shadow will be running around

[@mintx1720]

Honestly tera zygod would be pretty funny for VGC, would be interesting to see it pick and choose its counters but lose to Dondozo every game.

[@fractalisomega9517]

Specs go brrr

[@alexanderdavid9549]

Not to mention chi yu and chien pao would be even more fucked up under dark aura

[@dayvonlouis5187]

But imagine the chaos!!😂

[@StickMaster500]

GameFreak simply didn't want another VGC 2014 - 2017 again but even worse

[@Blitzbrie]

Nah, if that's the case they'd have nerfed them or just straight up banned them just like all of the other box legends that are banned right now. This is about something else

[@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan]

@@Blitzbrie wait to say that until we actually reach a restricted format please

[@Blitzbrie]

@@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan Didn't we have Regulation D? Aren't most of the box legends banned in VGC? That's the official format.

[@burgersaurus4573]

@@Blitzbrie theres usually a format where the box legends are allowed at the last year of the game’s cycle

[@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan]

@@burgersaurus4573 exactly. So we're probably getting the format that would've had Xerneas/Yveltal/Zygarde in it in a few months I'd guess, hopefully post worlds this year is my hopeful guess/estimation.

[@Yinyanyeow]

I barely believe the idea. If anything, if the makers of the game were scared of balancing, they would have fixed moves in the game like Darkrai's Dark Void, and would not have deleted moves.

[@blade5924]

I understand Yvaltal being dark/flying but I think it would have made a little bit more sense being ghost/flying or Dark/ghost cuz it's the pokemon of death

[@kam_12_]

dark ghost would have been really cool

[@gabrielchee8470]

@@kam_12_ pimpnite video in another universe: epic Yveltal sweep Wonder Guard Yveltal trolls salty noob

[@blade5924]

Another thing it would also make the two actually balanced against each other instead of Yvaltal getting sent back into cacoon form by one moonblast

[@thomasahuman7764]

We now know that this is because of the legends game

[@pikalol258]

funny that 2 weeks later the announce pokemon z-a

[@exaunitive4948]

I mean they could have also changed the mechanics of fairy and dark aura where it only affects xerneas and yveltal

[@justenoughrandomness8989]

or nerfed it to 20-15% (+other nerfs too)

[@gabrielgomes8515]

But Xerneas when pair with things like Chi-Yu would be massive even being nerf

[@aidanbauzo2122]

They could nerf it like regieleki’s ability

[@Arthur-ux9ez]

Some rumors are going around that another dlc is coming with another mythical, maybe they plan to add all the missing legendaries at this time

[@雪者]

Oh my

[@r.o.b.xmarie7727]

Shadow rider in gen 10: Calyrex: woah I thought you were dead! Yveltal: my death was, Greatly exaggerated. So, your the punk I’ve heard about? *Snarl and sucker punch intensify*

[@lecho0175]

Now we know why

[@tr3intaytr3s-cg3by]

He predict Legends gen 6 2 weeks before and sayd that isnt problably real

[@brandynpennington]

No he didn’t he was just talking about how broken they were in competitive

[@Ocacadordecasadas]

Well,now we know why, because of pokémon ZA

[@aidanbauzo2122]

“Worry about balance” *cough cough* ogerpon,urshifu,raging bolt,flutter mane,bloodmoon ursaluna,archaludon *cough cough*

[@EmersonCRVG]

It is funny how yveltal was seem as much weaker than xerneas in gen 6 but nowadays it is as strong or even stronger as we have seen in gen 8 singles

[@enoyna1001]

It's on every team due to Bunny on Ghost Horse's (TM) reign

[@weightedundermountainofbook]

@@enoyna1001 that calyrex shadow title is really accurate and funny

[@The-472]

This genuinely aged amazing with that question at the start.

[@Paldea07]

0:56 I have news for you dude.

[@themoolacato94tuna4]

remember that area which is around where France would be on a map where s/v are Spain, that area still doesn't have anything in it and these three are from kalos which is based on France something tells me we might get a third dlc with these guys.

[@HuyNguyen-rz7cd]

“Is this conformation that we’re getting Pokémon Z?” Gamefreak:YES

[@mydave6880]

Guess we now know why those 3 weren't in the game, we'll see them in Pokemon Legends Z - A!

[@pigzard01]

Wasn't Paldea attached to Kalos on the north eastern end? And there's a substantial area we couldn't go to either. I smell another potential DLC.

[@EvyDevy]

0:55 That didn't age well. It's great to be wrong though. Kinda funny we could have speculated this from that little info. Then again, you're likely right, could just be the balance.

[@Alibium]

No, probably not

[@kerrywien6775]

Hope They Give zygarde A Proper Story This Time Since zygarde is One Of My Favorite Legendary Pokémon Ever, zygarde is S Tier, i Wanted zygarde To Be A HARD BOSS BATTLE, Seeing zygarde Restoring Order And The Ecosystem is Amazing. And i Wanted A New Sub-Legendary Trio To Be Connected With The Aura Trio/X,Y,Z Trio.

[@hibarica]

Well well well

[@felipefigueiredo5698]

You give Game Freak too much credit. They wouldn't take their time to make such analysis.

[@detmaz]

also, i think this is wrong cuz GF couldve just added the gen 6 trio but ban them from competitive cuz too op but it would still let casual players use it

[@skrawvgc]

They have never done this before unless a move was not working as intended

[@detmaz]

ooooooooo, i was thinking of smogon lmfao, i usually play smogon matches and forgor that this is talking about vgc, then i looked at ur name lol@@skrawvgc

[@detmaz]

oh wait i was thinking about smogon lmfao@@skrawvgc

[@HORRIOR1]

Power Construct Zygarde with Tera Type earth, Thousand Arrows, Coil, and Rest Talk says hello.

[@trainer_rei]

Tera fairy power herb Xerneas w/ geomancy would be terrifying

[@wo_avocado2362]

0:48 HOLY SH*T, HE ACTUALLY WAS RIGHT

[@turtlenator6249]

This is just me, but maybe that’s another factor as to why Regieleki got nerfed but not Regidrago. Beside Regieleki being really good in Gen 8, it doesn’t have to worry about staying healthy to spam powerful Thunderbolts or Electro Webs compared to Regidrago with Dragon Energy and Draco Meteor.

[@Blitzbrie]

I can assure you that it has nothing to do with balance 'cus if they were worried about balance, they'd have either nerfed them or banned them from official play like they did with all the other box legends. It being about something coming in the near future makes much more sense. Quick reminder that we literally have Calyrex-Shadow in the game lol. GF doesn't care. I'm certain they're saving it for something coming, they're the only box legends not in the game and that's odd. There's also so many Kalos references in S/V.

[@ktvx.94]

Game Freak concerned about balance? Pffffft

[@GSBS123]

a word:legends Z-A

[@skrawvgc]

I was kinda looking forward to playing with Fluttermane and xerneas :(

[@detmaz]

e

[@martinhill9561]

In short: they broken and there’s no way to fix them without everyone else suffering. Just sending them out gives them essentially +2 to their damage then +1 for STAB and another +2 for terastallizing. We’re at +5 on turn 1. I miss my life giving murder deer😢

[@wo_avocado2362]

Yveltal is one of my fav legendaries im so pissed 😭😭😭😭

[@bryanmarcia4104]

Wpupd be too busted with terra

[@jasontch4490]

@@bryanmarcia4104 yet we can have Calyrex-shadow with Tera and that doesn’t seem to be a problem apparently.

[@drxavier1870]

You already know someones gonna use Tera Fairy Calyrex-Shadow and blow up the sun when Restricted Format becomes a thing

[@LordNorbertEins]

Well well well, Now after pokemon presents we know what was that about

[@catskills8553]

I think we’ll get Xerneas and Yveltal in raids like we did Dialga and Palkia and Zygarde complete will get the Mewtwo treatment.

[@facts00722]

Yaaa we are going to get pokemon Z

[@Ryanandtheamrhooliversepokemon]

Thumbnail Xerneas: *doing a dumb face* Yveltal: GET ME OUT GET ME OUT OR ELSE I WILL DESTROY YOU! *that is what I’m thinking they are saying*

[@matthewlasalvia7026]

Tera Fairy Xerneas or Tera Dark Yveltal would be broken, ngl.

[@LovelyLara123]

HE CALLED IT

[@malareon]

5:53 i thought it was a joke until i looked at the damage calculator and just stared at it for like 5 strait minutes.

[@4289isOK]

Playing Nat Dex Ubers on Showdown with Tera Dark Yveltal…yep this checks out

[@greenking9124]

Nope definitely because pokemon Z

[@KathyXie]

I don't think Fairy aura and dark aura are that strong since the boost is only on one type, I think chi yu beads of ruin is stronger since you can pin your opponent with 2 very strong moves that almost nothing resist. I think the real problem is geomancy with defensive tera like steel, poison or water, it will centralize the game into Xerneas mirror matches, Xerneas would also be very good against miraidon and koraidon, the 2 strongest legendaries in the game.

[@Cryonought]

The reason was probably due to them being scared of terastallized Xerneas or Yveltal since they're ability is that they give buffs to dark and fairy type so the get two buffs per turn so that probably why as well.

[@mediumxanax]

aged like milk i fear

[@jordantatata155]

Ngl fairy aura tera fairy sounds hilarious 😂

[@zubayerkabir5920]

Haha Let's Go Z-A

[@THEWUNDERBARGAMING]

i would say that one of the biggest problems with zygarde was that they were effectively only prevented from rampaging by xerneas and yveltal's existence,as they effectively were dynamax without needing dynamax and also when their hp doubled they also got a ton of hp back and got even more defense, setting this thing next to ting-lu with the possibility to turn zygarde's weakness to fairy into a resistance via terastallization into steel or poison would make it so incredibly hard to get off the board that it would be able to destroy things due to sheer tankiness, it has a slightly weaker earthquake that grounds opponents and doesn't hit your ally, a move that prevents switching out on both opponents and deals damage,a move that suppresses abilities on both opponents and deals damage, and it learns all these moves immediately. it would be incredibly powerful without xerneas to check it.

[@user-ll6ui6we3y]

nahh the only reason we didn’t get them is bc game freak didn’t want us to enjoy their BANGER battle music .

[@drearydoll6305]

*Me getting tired of seeing urshifu,ogerpon and flutterman in every single damn team* : Yeah, sure, probably balance.

[@spartanxbear9076]

Calyrex Shadow is in the game, it isn’t about balance…..

[@cardinal8848]

So Tera is the reason my favorite legendaries are absent and (possibly) the reason protean got nerfed (just a theory) which is the hidden ability of greninja, my favorite pokemon period. Why does Tera got to have it out for me man

[@gururaven]

This didn't age too well, it was just to prepare for the next game after all.

[@imn_fauler6098]

They will probably return in tera raids

[@HoussiaenMidouni]

He predicted it

[@finalGambitShedinja]

They just don’t want me to use Mirror Herb Flutter Mane.

[@1Henrink]

Great video! Not sure how true that is when Urshifu exists.

[@rotem6033]

Can't imagine Yvaltal + Chien Paw combo...

[@064Q]

Marshadows missing too

[@inva88]

If the problem is stacking buffs, then why kyogre is still available? The auras are weaker weathers, the rain buffs all water attacks by 50% and kyogre has a free 150 water attack boosted by stab. They could easily nerf xerneas, like they did with zacian, zamacenta and regieleki.

[@123christianac]

You can change the weather, and it only lasts for 5 turns. The Auras are in effect as long as their ability isn't directly disabled. Also, Kyogre's Water Spout isn't free. At base 90 Speed, it needs speed control to get them off... which most players build their teams to deny.

[@kilianlindlbauer8277]

Imagine chien-pao or chi-yu paired with yveltal on the field, even more scary than kingambit. But GF also forgot the ultrabeasts

[@alexiavya722]

I think they just forgot 💀 with all the dang pokemon I can fathom that the devs just physically didn’t have the power to make it to the final hurdle

[@Emma-rw8yo]

(responding to other comments in general) I think failures in balance in some areas is very much not evidence that balance is never in consideration or not worth discussing as a reason behind changes. Very obvious example, but there's a reason Shedinja isn't in the game.

[@About_a_Bag]

Maybe it’s cause they were planning Legends ZA

[@AbduLatrish]

I now understand why aura trio are not in gen 9

[@AbduLatrish]

Also they would have access to tera blast to increase their coverage options

[@AbduLatrish]

And yveltal plus chi yu is ridiculous

[@Illumisepoolist]

It's like the tera electric air balloon shedninja all over again!

[@TheWowza48]

There could be lore reasons. Isn't Paldea supposed to be next to Kalos?

[@matthewlasalvia7026]

Weren’t Darkrai and Deoxsys absent from Sword and Shield? So it’s not fair to say that every legendary Pokémon was available in those games.

[@squid2638]

imagine chi-yu + yveltal

[@Grin-Malkin1374]

In showdown one of my favorite things is Xerneas, Sylveon (with pixelate) tera fairy hyper beam

[@Necromancer7514]

In my ultra moon I have a Yveltal with dark aura,stab,life orb, dark pulse, and it shreds so makes sense to not be in the game

[@porcupinestudios414]

I understand how important keeping a competitive game balanced is but I still don’t like that they didn’t add these 😢

[@bigmonke3348]

Xerneas with flutter mane and yveltal with urshifu dark+the offensive ruinous legends wouldve been crazy

[@rodbryanquingquing2713]

Hint for legend AZ

[@crackers0413]

pokemon chromo[some] x and mu[tant] y: coming fall 2024

[@lucasgerven8439]

I don’t think the theory makes sense, a 1.33 modifier to one type would not stop game freak given that 2 of the treasures of ruin effectively give that same boost to all types but only physical/special respectively.

[@shaunavant532]

I miss the tapus :( i want a sun and moon remake sp i can see them again and re animated z moves

[@robertoalexandermendezmore408]

i allways think that GF should make that once power constructe activate it should be remplaced by aura breaker

[@zaaya7719]

I realize this is a VGC centric channel but Zygarde-Complete with access to defensive tera types on a whim is an absolutely terrifying prospect in Ubers/BSS/Etc.....

[@zaaya7719]

Heck even just Tera Ground to get rid of its 4x ice weakness and boost its extremely spammable thousand arrows would probably be good, best of both worlds dealio

[@gligarguy4010]

Like for Smoke Grenade reference.

[@SFSR6]

GEN 5 LEGENDARIES ARE MISSING, REMAKE CONFIRMED LETS GOOOO

[@The_PKMN-Man]

Pokemon: doesn't add the gen 6 legends Me (who first game was Pokemon X, and favorite legend is Zygarde): 🖕