Sky High Pricing At Some Stores

[@drewcaster]

There's a psychological aspect of thinking because you paid more, it's worth more.

[@markhamilton8765]

BINGO!!!

[@JasonChannell]

The Prestige was a great movie.

[@chrissolomon6767]

Casino Guitars is an awesome shop! Was there this past weekend with my family and spoke with Sean. Great shop and friendly interactions.

[@jameshumphrey2345]

It’s not just the super-high-end stuff, really. Every time I’ve walked into a certain, umm, Celebrated Mercantile Establishment and made it clear I wouldn’t mind taking home a significant piece of gear, the sales folks always find a way to sweeten it with a discount, or to walk up a trade-in value, or some excuse to knock a little bit off the sticker price. I don’t imagine they’re so incredibly soft-hearted so much as they recognize how much negotiating room the MSRP gives them, and they want to get ahead of the game.

[@johnstillwell4353]

Thanks for your approach to retail music.

[@TimTrutone]

9:19 Paul Westerberg First Act signature for $2k. It was in Minneapolis, ok?! 🤣 (Actually I think it was Tim Walz who tried to sell it to me...)

[@jfrankcarr]

My favorite from guitar forums is the reverse, as in "I bought this 1961 Tele for $300 last week at a little old hole-in-the-wall pawn shop in a small town in Texas!"

[@tonepilot]

To me, these crazy prices just make me feel the shop is either trying to rip people off, looking for cheap marketing or they don’t know what they’re doing. In all cases, I pass on that shop permanently.

[@bryantwalley]

@@tonepilot same here

[@MinivanMegafun100]

A certain “Guitar Bar” on the west coast comes to mind…

[@TheNohcim]

Good effing god yes, super super hyperinflated pricing over there. My buddy bought and overpaid for a japanese JM from them recently and the "setup" they promised in their over-glorified write up on the guitar was atrocious 😂 I got it set up better for him but I wasn't impressed with the price he paid

[@robbyhlove9695]

Yes. They also recently sold me a premium priced guitar promising new strings with a fresh setup. When I complained that their promise was completely ignored and the guitar badly needed a setup, they gave me the runaround and told me to get it repaired locally to avoid issuing a refund. After persistent complaining, they agreed to the return with shipping on my dime. Never again.

[@johnstillwell4353]

I picked up one of my best guitars from the aforementioned shop but I had some inside connections related to the guitar not the vendor.

[@MinivanMegafun100]

@@TheNohcim couple years ago I decided I really wanted a vintage Mustang guitar. I shopped for months and it was VERY clear that particular shop was trying hard to drive the market on pricing for them. Literally 30-40% higher than everyone with multiple flowery listings. You’d see others try and follow suit but then drop their ask after it sat unsold for 6 months. But not the Guitar Bar.

[@Scaredycat-dad]

What I wanna know is what does a guy like Joe Bonamassa pay for a vintage guitar when he goes into Norms or Carters compared to what I would have to pay. I am not hating on Joe.

[@bryantwalley]

Considering the quantity he buys from them I'm sure he gets a better deal than us.

[@southernpanda33]

He pays about what you would if you were a regular at that shop. Norms shop is reasonable.

[@allstopblue5717]

I mean he started buying then and paying like anyone else. At this point he’s a frequent customer and imo deserves a better deal with how much he’s spent over the years

[@tippss3332]

You guys are to awesome. Love watching the channel. Cheers

[@Guitarooster52]

I don’t know guys. When I go into a shop and look at the prices of say Fenders, then consider what they used to cost just 5 years ago…and consider the types of materials and construction used I get the impression that there is plenty of margin somewhere. Vintage…just because something is old it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s worth much. Imho.

[@hhatexas]

I have a guitar I bought at Carter but the amount I paid for it didn't matter. I got a really sick deal and that didn't devalue the experience any.

[@JohnStefaniFI]

Great subject to talk about. Good job!!

[@mattsmitchger259]

I've had some pretty expensive guitars that were duds. And my favorite was an Epiphone SG I paid $200 for used. It's mostly psychological marketing bs. If you need the prestige and bragging rights, go for it. But it's not necessary to spend big , crazy money on a good guitar.

[@larrocovarry9027]

I bought my 66 tele for 950 !!! & i thought that was overpriced !!! Until i bought my 56 refin. Standard for 5k !!!! And then everything is out of reach after the turn of the century!!!! I could of bought a 58 flyin V for 3500 in1979 !!! That was insanity back then ... ( wish i bought them) 😪

[@ZonkerRoberts]

"Not the Zippers, just the Squirrel Nuts" Brilliant! (I saw the Squirrel Nut Zippers this summer and they were great.)

[@alexholdenii4946]

Any of the big name shops in Nashville seem to be very proud of their gear. I went w a master build to get that type of guitar but I expect it will play way better than vintage. I guess if you’re a collector it’s different.

[@TheFeelButton]

Prestige pricing is a walk away for me 'cause I ain't a good haggler. Cheers Casino!

[@liamguitars]

Bax Jon Sean !!! You guys rock! I just got a 84 gibson explorer project (needs everything including frets and board radius) no breaks (ive got it sanded to bare wood now) I am painting it white. its Jan 84 buuuut it is kind of an 83 the 84's had L knob layout and no pickguard mine is straight with guard. All maple neck+body. What would you guys charge for very nicely done 80's explorer? Im doing the new dirty fingers pickups and tone pros +grovers

[@buddylobos5277]

Joe Bonamassa bought a '1956 Copper Iridescent' Les Paul from my home shop. (Willies in St.Paul) They're saying it sold for $125,000. He recently said he found 2 of them in Minnesota. I'm assuming one was from Willies. Crazy Do-ra-me!!!... Have to add Joe Walsh re-purchased his '59 Les Paul there. No price was posted but, the guitar is still on their web page. A year later.

[@tonepilot]

Been into the Wrangler stuff at Walmart too lol. Good prices for really good quality. Who cares if it’s not fashion runway ready? Heheh

[@somedude1901]

Carter and Gruhn are insane. Great stores, insane prices

[@allstopblue5717]

They also go the extra mile to authenticate certain guitars and every single pot, cap, wire, switch, etc. . Other shops will sell something as vintage without actually combing through it in detail. These shops have rightfully earned their solid reputation over the years. It wasn’t simply given to them for no reason.

[@somedude1901]

@ as vintage dealers, yes! Not hating on Carter or Gruhn; it’s just staggering prices

[@johnstillwell4353]

I guess I don't fall in love with guitars and have a background in finance so I look at the price a place has the guitar offered for and if it's close enough, or if I like the people who own the shop, I am not likely to waste their time nickel and dimeing them about price.

[@LysanderLH]

The idea that more cost equals more value vanishes when trading in or selling. Then it’s “we have so much used stock”, “we give 50% of the amount we sell it for”. In real terms, a 5 grand guitar is worth 1500-2000 within a month of buying it.

[@LysanderLH]

A better question would be ‘why does anyone pay MSRP at music shops?’ eg. Cars, houses….

[@tombeaty6470]

Guys, I have to take issue with one of the points you brought up. You said don’t show up at a store and whip out you phone and start quoting the lowest prices for things. HOWEVER, when I brought something in to trade and thought I really was asking a fair price, the FIRST thing y’all did was whip out your phone and started quoting me extremely low prices off Reverb. So don’t say that it piss off the store when you do that because it is also the practice of the stores too. Sorry guys… luv ya. Mean it.

[@southernpanda33]

1:04 I haven’t heard a Squirrel Nut Zipper reference since 2000. 😂

[@seanmiller7187]

Carter and Rumble Seat are crazy expensive.

[@Miri_2024]

Great subject -

[@user-no1cares]

I think Casino Guitars are expensive but I understand the quality, competition wuth online stores & fancy web pages running out of an apartment living room. Free market pressure ve quality & service. I bought my last 2 guitars from a brick & mortar store.

[@adamgarrett4758]

Those old Casio calculator watches are collectibles now.

[@keestoft250]

You often hear the phrase, it's never been a better time to be a guitar player. 40 or 50 years ago the price of vintage gear was somewhat within reach.

[@MayorMcCheese2000]

Folks who have fuck you money, often don't care what something costs if its inconsequential to them. The time it takes to look up a competitive price and negotiate a deal just isn't worth it to them... They don't go to Rolls Royce and haggle... they just buy it. The person who spends 150k on a weekend vacation, doesn't give a shit if the guitar they want in the store is overpriced by 30k... it flat out doesn't matter to them so they don't care... I'd recommend learning more about the watch and auto industry cuz those folks have expendable income like nobody else, and a lot of them love guitars!

[@TheRichie213]

I have fu money and I wouldn't pay anything over 3k for a guitar. After 3k it really doesn't get any better. It's basically just eating gold on steak.

[@MayorMcCheese2000]

@TheRichie213 I spend more than 3k on the engraving work alone.... wtf you talking about? I'm gonna guess you also don't drive a rolls royce, or wear a glasshutte watch.... not because they're not worth the higher price, or that you can't afford it... but because you can't understand or appreciate the superior craftsmanship that goes into them, and you clearly have no appreciation for them as objects of artistic value, otherwise you'd value the artists and not just the materials. I have different standards though and I like to see things pushed to the absolute limit of ability, because otherwise what's the point of living? Seems rather dull to me otherwise, but to each their own, not everyone has to have the same ambitions, plenty of room for mass produced white noise too.

[@MayorMcCheese2000]

@TheRichie213 also real talk.... you realize you post videos on your channel and we can see enough to draw a reasonable assumption that your income might be generously expressed as average.... halfway decent curtain and a better light fixture cost like $50 my dude.

[@TheRichie213]

@MayorMcCheese2000 Engraving doesn't make the guitar play any better. I buy guitars that already look beautiful. Sometimes I change some hardware or pickups which is not that expensive. I'm not a car guy. I can buy a brand new car right now but don't want to. I have a car that still runs. Should a candy bar cost 100 bucks? It's just a candy bar, a few bucks at the most. I can get a guitar that sounds good, feels good, is easy to play, stays in tune extremely well, has a professional setup and will do the job at a gig, concert or for recording for under 3k. A 20k guitar isn't twice as good as a 10k guitar. It's just a gimmick.

[@TheRichie213]

@MayorMcCheese2000 I've posted videos in different houses, not just mine. How do know that wasn't my gfs house that I stay at on the weekends?

[@chadb5959]

I would love to have a vintage guitar. I have no idea how to value a vintage guitar. I can't take tbe guitar apart to check electrics and components. George Gruhn authored a book on vintage guitars, he is an expert. The people at Carter's Vintage are expert. They both have excellent reputations that they want to protect. Were I to buy a vintage, I'd buy from Gruhns, Carter's or Casino because I trust their level of expertise and experience. I'd pay more than I might have elsewhere, but I'd be comforted knowing that I bought the real deal.

[@johnstillwell4353]

The high price guitars can almost be looked as advertising expense.

[@richfiryn]

I have a Fiesta Red 2020 Classic Vibe Strat available for $200,000 case is extra.

[@homegrownson]

Many Price their Premier Guitar so High that its more to Draw people to Website or Brick & Mortar Stores and some are just crazy squirrels in Sales, thats why we all Love Casino , you've spoiled us

[@_thespacegazer]

Durrrrr bRiCk aNd mOr… 🤡

[@leftwrite]

This is the justification for price gouging, more commonly known as inflation.

[@seanbrooks2583]

I bought a used PRS core from Normans rare guitars and i feel like it added a bit of prestige lol

[@bryantwalley]

You can still get a Swatch.

[@allstopblue5717]

It’s a good thing there are a ton of options available at all different price ranges. Yet people love to complain about expensive Gibson guitars are. So go look at other brands. There are plenty. It only makes you sound jealous to whine about it when there are plenty of other options available

[@TeeFetch]

Casio Calculator watch was the shiznit. Short of say a spy like radio watch if ya ever could find one or afford it as a child.

[@Barbarapape]

The secret to making a lot of money very quickly is to ask the maximum price that the market will stand, sell as much as possible and exit that market before it sees sense and sales start to drop. These get rich quick people don't last long, leaving the likes of Casino to continue been here long after these greedy sellers have gone.

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Thanks.

[@michaelmacisco2566]

There are a few around me as well & these guitars just sit for months some longer than a year…

[@danrunnoft6642]

What if they're asking $10,000. for a $3,500 guitar? Should I offer $8,500?

[@misternobody4786]

How do I get away with it?

[@MayorMcCheese2000]

The guitar industry has been chasing the bottom line for the last 50 years... its about damn time that more attention was given to the higher end.

[@andrewbecker3700]

Jonathan brought up a good point. Being a know it all dickhead, that pulls out the phone constantly. To back the angle they're on. Just annoys the shit out of people. Speaking honestly and firmly, with solid factual information is fine. But attempting to jam the latest sale price by a certain distributor into the equation. Isn't usually gonna get the desired results I've found. Not all stores can offer the same exact products for the same exact prices. I've learned from experience, to ease into the amount of the offer. Don't box yourself in immediately, by putting up hard fast limits. Most of the time, a package deal that offers some other items at a discount. Can be negotiated without a hassle. So you might not get one item at exactly the price you'd like. But if you bundle some accessories into the deal. They can most often be had at an increased discount, as a result of paying closer to asking price on the other items. Remember, not everyone is Sweetwater. Peace!

[@Steve.Cutler]

No guitar is worth 10,000+ to me! Some sellers on reverb must be on crack with their prices!!😂

[@deaconddd]

It’s like the same 30 rich guys selling and buying back those guitars too which keeps the prices high. I thought we had gotten over all the price gouging and exorbitant mark ups. American Commerce is stupid.

[@friedtaters8940]

Because money

[@wewin03]

If I can’t take it out and play it without an armed guard I say no thanks.

[@47Jonesy]

Casio and timex are ALLL YOU NEED TO KNOW lol

[@Jon-z6l4d]

😅❤

[@jryan7932]

Asking way overprice is offensive & preditorial toward ignorance. I will often never purchase anything from those people.

[@scottpickel1282]

Whatever you value it at … you’re kids will eventually sell it for what’s it’s worth - 🎉 lol 😂

[@mattjackson7859]

Some people want to spend 15$ and some want to spend 25$… says guy selling clay pots at the farmers market.

[@keithsnowdon8672]

Hard to believe the price of stuff coming out of China. Not a problem as i wouldnt buy a Chinese manufactured instrument.

[@Artymofo13]

😂

[@tatumtwo7137]

never buy vintage ...... paying a crap load for an old ass guitar is stupid. new guitars are new. vintage = old as hell and tells me ...someone didnt like it in the first place.

[@jamieb7799]

Vintage market = perceived value It’s a status symbol. The market will decide. But it’s fun to go down that rabbit hole.

[@christianhertwig1593]

You have to ask yourself if you want to play "just" a good guitar ... and you can get it for relatively little money. Seriously, I've been studying the electric guitar market for a long time now and it's amazing what you can get in the 350 euro to 750 euro range. Ufff if I had 15.000 euro I would compare 20 different guitars 😂😂😂😂😂 If I want to play a guitar but I think at almost every moment about the re-sale value, about the chances of getting my investment back, about increasing my profit ... well .... In this case the important thing would be to buy cheaply .... But a new guitar and maybe without historical, cultural background for more than 2000 euro? Sorry... no. And you can be 99.9% sure that it does NOT sound better, that it plays better .... Oh fucking psychology 😂😂😂😂

[@markcobb6561]

Every guitar you sell is overpriced. If a buyer can only resell a guitar at half the purchase price or less, that guitar was overpriced. The guitar industry is living on borrowed time. Flooding the market, continual over inflation of merchandise, abysmal resell value..... enjoy the videos while you can, it's almost over.

[@Arthur-vv8th]

CRAZY I'm a Tele player and can build a custom shop Tele for 1500 or less have 3 for sale right now 🤔

[@jamieb7799]

Yeah and the stock market was supposed to take 20 years to recover after the GFC.

[@fettuccinealraver]

Someone call the wahmbulance we got a mad lil guy over here

[@markcobb6561]

@fettuccinealraver are you stupid or something? You seriously interpreted what I said as being mad? You triggered dim-witted moron. You need troll els3where, real musicians know exactly what is being said and to be the very first comment under the video, casino doesn't deny what I've said.

[@chasinguitars]

It makes other ones same years in shops look like a deal that they better hurry up and jump on it ..bait sale

[@chasinguitars]

That are cheaper..lol..