Biggest Stereo Misconceptions We Hear Around The Shop- Part 1

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@roberttoews2775
@roberttoews2775 Жыл бұрын
Ironically, speaking of "therapist", your channel is my audio therapy. Your channel is down to earth with great advice and common sense. Rare things now-a-days.
@grants7390
@grants7390 Жыл бұрын
especially with the copious amounts of snake oil in the industry.
@user-handlethetruth
@user-handlethetruth Жыл бұрын
Such common sense. I wish he would run for president. But that bar is too low for him.
@record_guy59
@record_guy59 10 ай бұрын
I'm a 64 year old collector of vintage gear. Love your videos and try to watch them all.
@davidbaer4388
@davidbaer4388 10 ай бұрын
Your point about the mastering is spot on - CD's that are poorly mastered can sound worse than vinyl. However, vinyl degrades with every play.
@dougodyssey50
@dougodyssey50 3 ай бұрын
The CD version of Rumours by Fleetwood Mac was a big disappointment, sonically. The remaster completely makes up for it.
@Luke-sy4ou
@Luke-sy4ou 2 ай бұрын
Yep. I have a Marshall Tucker Band CD from the late 80s that is noticably mid-fi in signal and dynamic range.
@ProudDigital
@ProudDigital Жыл бұрын
As a teenager growing up in a town of 40,000 people in the late 60’s and early 70’s we had 6 high end stereo shops! Myself and my friends would hang around these shops after school and weekends just shooting the breeze with the owners and employees while drooling over the equipment and hoping one day to be able to buy some of those beautiful pieces of equipment. Hifi was huge back then. If you didn’t have your own stereo system, 9 times out of 10 your parents did even if it was just a Magnavox console. To me, your channel reminds me of those days hanging around the stereo store asking questions of the owner who always took the time to chat with us even though we probably only had enough money to buy an album, if even that. But those stereo gurus knew that one day, we could become future customers and treated us no differently from the buying customers. Working as a dishwasher after school and weekends in 1970, I was able to save up enough money to buy my first true hifi system, a Marantz 1060 integrated amplifier, an AR Turntable w/ Shure Cartridge and a pair of JBL L100’s. I still have this system and it works just as well as it did in 1970 albeit with a few repairs over the years. I paid $997 for the system which works out to $7720.94 in today’s money. Presently, our town has grown to over 80,000 people and with the exception of a very marginal Best Buy, there are no stereo stores selling new or vintage equipment. Having your channel to watch on KZbin, while not a replacement for these stores, is the next best thing and I thank you Kevin, for the service and memories you provide!
@rv6205
@rv6205 Жыл бұрын
I have a new pair of $7,000 Kef R11 speakers and i use a 1976 Pioneer sx1050 reciever , which i run spotify thru and it sounds great ....There is nothing like vintage !!!!....The quality was off the charts !!!!
@audiopyle3606
@audiopyle3606 Жыл бұрын
I have always been into audio ever since I was a kid. I was a pre teen during the stereo power wars. My brother who was 10 yrs older than me had a pioneer sx1080 and large advents and a pioneer pl540. It sounded great. I used to love to hang out in the audio room of service merchandise, brendles, audition hi fi, and radio shack. I have quite a vintage audio collection now and still love it. It's like a time machine to the past. Thanks, you have an awesome channel and audio store.
@rv6205
@rv6205 Жыл бұрын
@@audiopyle3606 great comment, a time machine to the past ..i love it
@jmad627
@jmad627 Жыл бұрын
I can really identify with the drooling. It’s one of the reasons I sprung for a vintage Pioneer SX-780. It sounds great, looks brand new out of the box, came with its original box, and was reasonably priced. Good for you that you kept your system. I gave my first receiver, HK 330i, to my niece and now she’s enjoying it.
@rickc661
@rickc661 Жыл бұрын
Yep. ' stereo stores' like wall to wall in near every mll ( horrid place to listen but at least Ya could SEE 20 different receivers, t'table etc. ) gone the way of the dinosaur. and don't even try to find a decent electronic repair place.
@AstonsVintageTechnologyWorkshp
@AstonsVintageTechnologyWorkshp 10 ай бұрын
Being an Ex-Sony audio tech, I get asked similar things all the time, and I guess my answers usually follow the same line. Expensive was, and still is, expensive. Painfully so sometimes. People's remembrance, for instance, of cassettes, was of their crummy beat box with cheapo cassettes from the local store. When I show them an ES Sony deck with chrome or metal tapes, they're usually blown away by the fact that it sounds virtually as excellent as CD. Same for wattage, it's the quality not necessarily the quantity that matters. Long live vintage. 😀
@joncaven9319
@joncaven9319 2 ай бұрын
Current is the important ingredient.
@13JonnyR
@13JonnyR 9 күн бұрын
Thank you
@JonBass-h1t
@JonBass-h1t Жыл бұрын
I just turned 70, and I’m still looking to add to my vintage equipment collection. I love to learn from your channel as well as others.
@arnoldpainal5885
@arnoldpainal5885 4 ай бұрын
I am the same age and just added 20 vinyl albums to my rather large collection.
@howardscott7521
@howardscott7521 Жыл бұрын
A guy who knows vintage stereo and about JC Whitney catalogs? A rare breed indeed!
@danielknepper6884
@danielknepper6884 Жыл бұрын
JC Whitney was the bomb
@edverbeek6292
@edverbeek6292 Жыл бұрын
“I am not an expert”. Your honesty makes me listen to you. Greetings from the Netherlands
@davidworsham4052
@davidworsham4052 5 ай бұрын
I'm late to the party here, but I will say what keeps me coming back is your knowledge of HiFi. The fact that you are humble or even keeled in your presentation. You enjoy the hobby just like many others do without being condescending about what brands are the best versus what is affordable. I like that. You are doing a great job.
@skylabsaudio
@skylabsaudio 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. Much appreciated
@mrpbody44
@mrpbody44 Жыл бұрын
People forget how crazy expensive stereo gear was in the 1960's and 1970's. Also we had a strong middle class to support the industry.
@rolandlickert2904
@rolandlickert2904 Жыл бұрын
Agree a Nakamichi Taperecorder cost close to 3000 dollars
@MarvinHartmann452
@MarvinHartmann452 Жыл бұрын
I remember a paying 800 for a basic 21 inches colour TV around 1986. It was very expensive.
@aaronhayman8558
@aaronhayman8558 Жыл бұрын
Particularly if you go with digital sources and want something that's only needs to be faithful to the music and not to annoy the neighbors with extreme volume it seems that you can have some very good sound for a pretty modest investment these days...
@davidbutler8096
@davidbutler8096 Жыл бұрын
@@rolandlickert2904 The Nakamichi Dragon when it was released in 1982...was $1850. Now...they are three times that.
@rolandlickert2904
@rolandlickert2904 Жыл бұрын
Sorry got that wrong it was 3000germanmarks in Germany@@davidbutler8096
@MarvinHartmann452
@MarvinHartmann452 Жыл бұрын
The "I was wrong then, no big deal" part can be and SHOULD BE taught in schools for every aspect of our lives because being wrong and being able to admit it is an important part of any learning process.
@CohibaJoe
@CohibaJoe Жыл бұрын
It's the Teacher Unions that are instructing our teachers to put out the...let's just say, crap. Parents need to be involved at board meetings.
@mariemccann5895
@mariemccann5895 Жыл бұрын
Instead we have a generation of flakes sitting on the fence.
@Bicklehoff794
@Bicklehoff794 Жыл бұрын
You are right!
@baybae92
@baybae92 Жыл бұрын
@@CohibaJoeStop it. This is a vinyl collecting video, not a place to spread your propaganda.
@googleedwardbernays6455
@googleedwardbernays6455 Жыл бұрын
Bruh, Could not agree with you more!! I was choppin it up with an old friend, and we were taking boomers to task when it comes to their dropping of the ball after partially causing the mess we are in. They are 90% incapable of owning their mistakes and poor choices. I don’t think they were always this way. But the trend is viral, as well as staggering. First generation (I’m aware of) where our elder community as a whole, DOES NOT fit the archetype we have become accustomed to. I wish i was wrong.
@TheKeymaster316
@TheKeymaster316 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your Sunday videos. My dad still owns his SX-980 and HPM-100's that he bought brand new in the late 70's. I brought the 980 home several years ago and cleaned the pots and switches as he had sidelined this receiver for years and had replaced it with an Onkyo from the 90's. I've had my share of spiteful comments on my meager, little KZbin channel, so I know what you mean. There's always an "expert" out there who knows everything and won't hesitate to tell you as much. Keep the videos coming, those of us who truly enjoy the hobby appreciate you. Thanks
@fentonfun
@fentonfun Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your channel and your no nonsense way of covering our subject! Hope one day to visit you in Iowa too.
@mrkgrmn3
@mrkgrmn3 3 ай бұрын
I haven't owned a stereo system in at least 25 years, but I've become addicted to these videos. I love looking at vintage equipment and the presentation is so down to earth and calming that I watch as an antidote to all the fast-paced screaming negative bs on the internet. Thanks for being a positive influence!
@ChuckF-oy2rm
@ChuckF-oy2rm 3 ай бұрын
I've watched a few vintage equipment channels with different presenters and I always keep coming back here. Down to earth clear & concise assessments from a decent and friendly person. Keep up the great work!
@SammyBorg-w5p
@SammyBorg-w5p Жыл бұрын
Kevin, your voice is almost hypnotic and your dryness and clarity always cuts through all the crap out there, without the over showmanship and adding to the white noise which is the source of the 2023 static and hiss that you hear through your vintage speakers that definitely wasn’t there in the 70’s! Keeping it just black and white is a rarity now a days I love you buddy and keep up the great work
@CraigHollabaugh
@CraigHollabaugh Жыл бұрын
No misconception here, we love you and Skylabs. It's genuinely a surprise and joy every Sunday morning.
@skylabsaudio
@skylabsaudio Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Craig!
@jim010109
@jim010109 Жыл бұрын
I dont even own vintage equipment, and I don't miss a video. You explain things in a manner that makes sense. And it applies to new equipment as well as vintage. A good example is wattage. You made valid points about wattage that I never really thought about before. Keep up the great work. I hope the channel keeps growing.
@tmdillon1969
@tmdillon1969 Жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite channels! On one hand, I wish I lived closer so I could stop by the store. On the other hand, I don't need that kind of equipment temptation on a regular basis.
@UltraMEGAMAGARandy
@UltraMEGAMAGARandy Жыл бұрын
Honest, humble, knowledgeable. IMO, the best vintage (and more) audio info channel available. Good job.
@skylabsaudio
@skylabsaudio Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that
@jeanpsyhos7639
@jeanpsyhos7639 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for keeping vintage alive!
@haqitman
@haqitman Жыл бұрын
What keeps me coming here on Sunday mornings is that it's just refreshing to hear someone talk about an interesting yet very subjective hobby with a calm and reasoned approach while attempting to be objective.
@unstablenetwork4744
@unstablenetwork4744 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for being honest with your viewers and to yourself. Huge respect! Owning a small vintage stereo shop is winning in my book. Wishing you future success.
@matthewpeterson3329
@matthewpeterson3329 Жыл бұрын
There's a slew of vintage audio (or just audio) channels on KZbin. I've watched many, and Skylabs is the one I look forward to each week. Kevin's manner is relaxing and his truthful presentation is always welcome. I can't remember the last time I saw a negative comment, and if it exists, was likely some piss-ant hater who doesn't have much nice to say about anything, regardless. Keep up the great work!
@xForbin99
@xForbin99 11 ай бұрын
What a genuine honest dude talking about a hobby i love. Easiest subscribe button click of my life
@skylabsaudio
@skylabsaudio 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate that
@rotaxtwin
@rotaxtwin Жыл бұрын
I think your channel is successful because you have tapped into a vein of happy memories, I think almost everyone my age remembers going into a stereo retailer in the 70s and the feeling of magic that all that glorious gear held. To own a little piece of it nowadays is powerful stuff!
@NCislander
@NCislander Жыл бұрын
Kevin, very cool episode. I especially like the "Misconceptions about Me (You)". You under rate the amount of knowledge you share out here. Your insight of Audio, and how different people perceive Audio is huge. Most everyone on the planet in some form enjoys hearing & listening to music. The fact that you focus on the Vintage era of equipment and how we can get more out of it is really cool. Keep doing what you do. I'm on my 2nd purchase of a Pioneer SX receiver. Really fun watching & taking in your advice of the hobby. -Thank you.
@terencejay8845
@terencejay8845 Жыл бұрын
'Every day is a School day.'
@AUTISTICLYCAN
@AUTISTICLYCAN Жыл бұрын
Dude I was a computer systems analyst for 21 of the best years of my life. I loved computers and would have gladly done the job for free. You give the same vibe when you talk about vintage audio. I'm retired in my 60's now and I love my vintage audio collection. I come here to share everything I love about vintage audio with you all. I'm sure YOU know this. Just because a song is digital does not mean it ALWAYS sounds better than vinyl. Determinants in digital sound quality is source quality, sample rate usually 44.1 KHz and finally bit depth i.e. 16-bit: 65,536 values 24-bit: 16,777,216 values & 32-bit: 4,294,967,296 values. Each element can improve or denude digital sound quality. I think this channel is the BOMB BIGGITY!
@aaronhayman8558
@aaronhayman8558 Жыл бұрын
Of course all digital is not created the same... nor is all analog, like an 8-track tape can't sound nearly as good as a reel to reel tape, both played from a great system. MP3s aren't great but I would argue that the standard for CD was really well thought out and even with competition from higher resolution and greater bit depth formats, it still holds up. There's a point where any extra resolution and bit depth isn't really perceived by human ears. Particularly when it comes to bit depth, greater than CD quality is pretty much wasted. There isn't music that even contains dynamic range greater than what a CD is capable of. The highest but rates can do dynamics that might go from the equivalent of a pin dropping on the floor to a jet plane taking off 50 feet away... and what music do you know of that has that kind of dynamic range?
@AUTISTICLYCAN
@AUTISTICLYCAN Жыл бұрын
@@aaronhayman8558 Any number of variables change the quality of sound being reproduced. If I wanted to I could write a tome filled with facts and variables to consider in a near infinite number of sound reproduction situations using different tools. My response was a confined to a very limited set of parameters regards audio quality. If you need to be right on this or any other subject I raise then by all means, "You're Right!" I'm not here to fight over details. I'm here enjoy and learn from the awesome videos shared by the Skylabs video creator and his amazing guests. I here to enjoy learn about new things vintage and new. I'm here to gain insights and get help collecting quality vintage audio.
@dmunz7015
@dmunz7015 Жыл бұрын
If someone thinks that vinyl sounds better than digital, that's up to them, The beauty is in the eye of the beholder, nothing mythical about that.
@phillipwoods1
@phillipwoods1 Жыл бұрын
Kevin, thanks for creating a great space and community via your KZbin channel. This is one of my favorite places on all of KZbin and the web. Really appreciate your humility, passion, and willingness to share. Such an enjoyable and positive space… I hope to make the trip to Iowa and see the store in-person some day. Meanwhile, I look for the next video… keep doing what you’re doing. It’s great.
@g.fortin3228
@g.fortin3228 Жыл бұрын
Totally Agree with the WATTS ratings.. I have a 1974'ish Pioneer SX-737, recently restored, on some recent model Klipsch bookshelf speakers that will go loud enough to really disturb the neighbors and it's got a modest 35 WPC rating. Nice points as always. Keep on rocking it.
@techguy9023
@techguy9023 Жыл бұрын
I had a student worker who kept insisting that you had to have 1000 watts in a car stereo. I took him to the loading dock with a pair of 50 watt Macintosh amps and a pair of Bose 802 stage speakers. He was punching my arm telling me to turn it down.
@g.fortin3228
@g.fortin3228 Жыл бұрын
@@techguy9023 Love that Hahaha!
@karaDee2363
@karaDee2363 Жыл бұрын
Well you deserve positive comments for just being down-to-earth and giving honest opinions. What you said about vinyl versus CD is spot-on in every regard and I don't know anyone that could have given a better synopsis of that and every other topic you touched on in this video.. you're very humble Kevin and I know you'll keep up the great work. And I actually do plan on making an album purchase from you at some point later this month
@dwightpollock
@dwightpollock Жыл бұрын
I can't thank you enough for the thought and work you put into the channel and vintage stereo. Having recently moved from Iowa, I thought I could find other stores easily in bigger areas. That has not been the case unfortunately. Keep up the good work!
@rondickinson8741
@rondickinson8741 Жыл бұрын
I think everybody out here appreciates the time and effort you put into the videos please keep them coming
@allanellis5827
@allanellis5827 Жыл бұрын
Another great video Kevin. Your honesty, candor and advice is very much appreciated. I look forward to your next one. Thank you so much!
@stephentrust2241
@stephentrust2241 11 ай бұрын
Love your channel, keep it rolling
@MoD_Master_Of_Disaster_
@MoD_Master_Of_Disaster_ Жыл бұрын
Hi, This is teh first video on your channel that I watched, since I just discovered your channel. Man was I amazed to see one of the most sincere and honest videos I've seen so far on YT, no audiophile bs, no pretentious opinion, just sharing information and knowledge, this is cool. Keep up the good work, YT needs more like this. Best regards from Amsterdam.
@ReginaldDj1
@ReginaldDj1 Жыл бұрын
I've been listening to you for about a year now and I've enjoyed every moment and ill be 60 in march 2024 keep pushing vintage Audio ❤👍
@alm5693
@alm5693 Жыл бұрын
Loved the final segment of this video. I'm 20 years older than you so I actually got to hang out in LOTS of Twin Cities stereo stores, but once I bought something I'd quit looking and live with it, so I really love watching and learning from your channel. I wish I would have known what you teach (yes you do) in the 90's when I took my Harman Kardon 930 receiver to the electronics recycling center. 😩 I'm going to take the 4 hr drive down to your store someday. Might stop at Fix My Dual while I'm there (and while he's still there) to buy a 1229 dust cover to replace my scratched up one.
@altokheim
@altokheim Жыл бұрын
A common misconception that I recall from my years in 70's audio retail was that "12 o'clock on the volume control was only half maximum volume". I can't begin to count the number of blown tweeters coming into the shop from turning the volume up too high. 1-2 o'clock was often the point where amplifiers and receivers would reach their maximum ability before amplifier distortion (clipping) would occur and potentially damage speaker components. These life lessons would sometimes result in the sale of a larger amplifier.
@jonathanhernandez4304
@jonathanhernandez4304 Жыл бұрын
I've always noticed this. 3/4 volume was the max I'd run my system, and that was out in the park during a keg party. There seemed to be a fall off in noticeable volume decibel after that and a loss of sound quality even though very slight.
@mkshffr4936
@mkshffr4936 Жыл бұрын
How can I be over drawn? I still have checks. 😇
@IrwinWeisman
@IrwinWeisman 11 ай бұрын
Thanks very much for your videos! You are providing a much needed service to music listeners everywhere!
@robmaxfield780
@robmaxfield780 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy your weekly videos! I knew some things about vintage stereos as I grew up listening to my father’s Pioneer SX-1500T and other equipment of his but I never got in deep until this year. I’ve learned a ton and bought a ton of Pioneer gear. I’ve also made a few new friends getting into the hobby as well. Learning and talking to others has probably been the most fun aspect of it overall. Keep up the great and informative vids!
@Dan-r3u2f
@Dan-r3u2f Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make these videos. I love learning about vintage stereo equipment & your channel is one of the best in this field.
@wvufreak56
@wvufreak56 Жыл бұрын
Kevin: You may not even have the time to read this, but nevertheless; I thoroughly enjoy your channel. I recently retired @ 67 and purchased a Marrantz 2238B receiver, Yamaha turntable and set of Boston Acoustics speakers all in great condition. In the late 70's I bought a Marrantz 2238B but later when it developed some issues, I sold it at a Yard Sale! Did I blaspheme? Lol...I only hope the guy who bought it refurbished it! Anyway, late congratulations on opening a business that you are obviously passionate about! I recently purchased your record cleaner from Skylabs and will be busy soon cleaning my vinyl! Keep the videos coming and I many others truly appreciate your knowledge and time to bring it to us!!!
@EtonieE25
@EtonieE25 Жыл бұрын
Been there, done that, even the swearing bit 🤣👍
@mattspokane
@mattspokane 7 ай бұрын
Your attitude towards negative comments is not only wonderful in this case but the general philosophy I tried to teach my kids and the community members with whom I work (both kids and adults). If Somebody is negative, just tried to give them some grace and appreciate that they probably need some positivity in their life. it not probably helps them get a better attitude but helps us not take it personally. I welcome negativity as a challenge to see if I can make their life happier 🙂 Your friendly, honest, and funny delivery is what makes this channel my favorite of everything on KZbin right now. 🙂
@blue-sc1se
@blue-sc1se Жыл бұрын
Thanx for your expertise! On the topic of digital vs. vinyl: I have found that the dynamics of the music to be superior on CDs. We used to use a dbx expander to achieve that type of depth from vinyl at the store I worked in back in the day. Also, the obvious advantages of less noise and better durability made CDs my favorite.
@unclemick-synths
@unclemick-synths Жыл бұрын
Durability was (is) a big deal for me. I recorded all my records to cassette and played the cassettes to avoid the vinyl getting worn/damaged.
@Radiodoc560
@Radiodoc560 5 ай бұрын
I just discovered your channel last night and I learned so much. Thanks for posting and making videos like you do, it helps to get some perspective about audio.
@skylabsaudio
@skylabsaudio 5 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@drmbgls1
@drmbgls1 Жыл бұрын
As far as CDs vs vinyl I did do a comparison of the same CD and vinyl for my son. Yes the CD was clear and no pops and hiss, but the vinyl was more organic, with a bigger bottom end sound. But that;s also up to the listener weather they like that sound, or clear and no background sound. Also as fr as watts, i do have a 100wt Realistic receiver and just picked up a Scott R-306 receiver with 15 watts. With a good set of efficient speakers, 15 watts pumped out some great sound. Again, it's a preference thing. As a kid, I did spend my Saturday afternoons in a high end stereo store getting some knowledge into equipment and what works best pared together.
@sirsuse
@sirsuse Жыл бұрын
Kevin, your channel rocks! I love and appreciate that you speak from the experience you have. I also can tell that you speak honestly. If I lived closer I would definitely visit your store.
@frankflores3948
@frankflores3948 Жыл бұрын
All I can say is “Thank You Kevin”!!!!! Like I stated before, Skylabs is part of my Sunday morning routine. Watching your channel, coffee and absorbing the information! Case in point, I building a new system and I’m incorporating a WiiM Mini. Keep it up! Frank
@dmonthome
@dmonthome Жыл бұрын
I just went to the "dark side" and added a WiiM Pro+ to my vintage system. I love my vinyl sytem and the experience of playing vinyl but, for myself, I find that I tend to exist in an echo chamber of music that I grew up with. I usually don't discover new music when purchasing vinyl, I just go with the artists that I know and love. I am hoping that the WiiM Pro+, along with the Tidal streaming service, introduces me to new artists and music that I may not encounter otherwise.
@frankflores3948
@frankflores3948 Жыл бұрын
@@dmonthomeI purchased the WiiM Mini for a specific reason and that’s to stream my SiriusXM subscription and Amazon music subscription through this new system. I have two other systems and they are powered by my Sansui 9090DB and a Marantz 8006PM!
@christschool
@christschool Жыл бұрын
I grew up on vinyl records. Then I was there for the CD introduction. I simply don't understand how anyone, anyone can say vinyl sounds better than a CD.
@casesimmons2645
@casesimmons2645 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos you seem very honest and to be able to admit your passed mistakes proves that keep up the great work
@standingintheson1
@standingintheson1 3 ай бұрын
Just started watching Skylabs and frankly your videos have sparked an interest for me with this hobby. I'm now searching the classifieds for vintage gear, hoping to build a system. Keep doing what you're doing. You all are great!
@andykeena8767
@andykeena8767 Жыл бұрын
I am always sharing your videos with people that have vintage hi-fi questions. As you have covered a lot of great stuff from repairs to your favorites or things to watch out for in specific brands. Hopefully they have become fans.
@passacaglia28
@passacaglia28 Жыл бұрын
I can't express how much I enjoy your channel and look forward to your newest videos!
@brucecoyle2565
@brucecoyle2565 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos and I can’t know how hard it is to make a video. You have taught me quite a bit about vintage gear and will continue to watch and I’m also close enough to come visit. Good job Kevin
@skylabsaudio
@skylabsaudio Жыл бұрын
Thanks Bruce. Always good to see you and your wife.
@RealtorInThe828
@RealtorInThe828 20 күн бұрын
Slowly but surely, this old hippie is going to learn enough to put a vintage system together. Didn't realize how much I missed music until I found your channel. Thank you for your effort in providing us knowledge, Kevin.
@timcorner2821
@timcorner2821 Жыл бұрын
I really love channels like yours as it indulges my need for the nostalgia in audio. Speaking for myself, I am over 60 years old and remember the 70's when what we call vintage audio was in full swing. I used to go to my local hifi store and check out the new stuff, and would just dream of owning all the gear I would see. Recently, I found a really good Pioneer SX-780, which was one of the pieces of gear, I remember seeing all those years ago. Like you say, there is equipment out there today, that would likely surpass it in overall performance, but for me, there is the nostalgia and the tactile feel of turning the tuning dial, that just does it for me. I am investing in upgrading the Darlington Power packs, to newly invented modules, as well as a complete, restoration. It would not be worth it for a lot of people to spend money on an old piece of gear like I am but I'm sure there are people here, that can relate. Thanks for the work you put in to this channel, it gives an old guy a lot of pleasure.
@Silverface1987
@Silverface1987 Жыл бұрын
You and me brother,I’m in my 60’s and loving it. Kevin does vintage GREAT! I have 11 vintage pieces,I’m not a hoarder,I’m a lover of vintage. I truely love my equipment. Pioneer 780,880,980,1080, Marantz,Sansui…..enjoy my brother,enjoy!😎
@timcorner2821
@timcorner2821 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. I can see more gear in my future, once I finish my current project.....lol @@Silverface1987
@jimmydelux
@jimmydelux 22 күн бұрын
Kevin, cool video. These are things a lot of us fall for as both new and veteran audiophiles. Thanks for the video!
@jonathanhernandez4304
@jonathanhernandez4304 Жыл бұрын
Another good KZbin post. Old vs New, Vinyl vs Digital are strictly preferences. Some days I put on a record, other times I steam from my digital playlist. I find older recordings like "Papa was a rolling stone" have a great mix in quad/ stero separation, and I have found new music with a great prodution mix. A prefer the older mixes however but I think its mostly out of years of brain memory and being familiar with the nuance's in the mix.
@steveswell1
@steveswell1 10 ай бұрын
I signed in just to reply. Papa just sounds so damn good anyway, right? LOL And I couldn't agree with you more abou the OG mixes. They are imprinted in our minds and that's the way we want to hear 'em. Kinda like replacing a cherry vintage Camaro with a "new" one...nah, thanks!
@fredjoel8113
@fredjoel8113 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the good, honest commentary. Audio has been a passion for me even in my pre-teen years, starting with a 'Voice of Music' (VM) tape recorder with tube electronics. I hung around audio shops drooling over equipment and chatting with people there. Lafayette Radio Electronics stores also provided equipment and interesting accessories as well as quality well-known brands often mentioned here. Working a paper route provided money to buy equipment. At that time I'd usually buy the electronic components, then build my own loudspeakers after much research and reading magazines like Audio, High Fidelity, High Fidelity, Popular Electronics, and then Stereophile, Audio Amateur and Speaker Builder as well as various books. This led to my decision to become an Electrical Engineer. Of course I made a stereo power amplifier for my college senior design project. At one point I co-owned a stereo shop. It was great meeting people, and I got to play and test a lot of gear. I set up many turntables, did repairs, and even build and modified equipment. (Somewhat now over-looked are American-made products by Dynaco and Hafler.) This took me on a path to work with sound for live bands, and as well as involvement with discotheque equipment and DJ work, which then branched into radio stations and mobile sound. As they say, "Those were the days." It's been interesting to watch "audio" evolve. Thankfully equipment from that era was well-made so much has survived for us to enjoy!
@francescotenti193
@francescotenti193 Жыл бұрын
Another great video and, like in the past, very humble and full of good information. I love vintage gear, I gave a shot at an amp with raging reviews here on KZbin but after 1 month I returned it today because my SX780 is far better sounding and looking. Great channel, keep it going, thank you.
@tomreidy1237
@tomreidy1237 Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your videos and visiting your shop is on my bucket list. Keep up the great work.
@luckytech7186
@luckytech7186 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos. I learned decades ago about the power rating deceptions. I have a 150 watt/channel Pioneer and a pair mach ones if i want to rock the neighborhood, but the stereo i listen to every day is an old school 7 watt/channel and a very efficient pair of 8" bookshelf speakers. sound is fantastic and plenty loud for every day listening. Agree with your vinyl vs digital perspective 100 %. I still enjoy the tactile experience of playing records, but most of the time listening through Bluetooth adapter to the vintage equipment. Looking forward to more videos.
@MarvinHartmann452
@MarvinHartmann452 Жыл бұрын
A 10W channel tube amplifier (or solid state) with sensitive speakers can be very loud.
@mikechivy
@mikechivy Жыл бұрын
I’d recommend getting a WiiM mini over playing through Bluetooth. It allows lossless wireless streaming. Significantly better than Bluetooth
@markgettemeyer1145
@markgettemeyer1145 Жыл бұрын
You’re absolutely right - we do change; we change because we learn. And if that means I say something different than I said at an earlier time, I’ve learned something and adjusted my thinking. We’re all learning and growing together - I started watching your channel last year. You unknowingly guided me through finding a gorgeous Marantz receiver, and helped me decide which turntable to buy as a companion piece. I learned from you sharing your knowledge and experience, and it enlightened my decision making process. Guides are everywhere in our lives - And as a result of your guidance, the vinyl in our house sounds nothing short of remarkable. Thank you for this channel 🙏🏼
@robsonbass6058
@robsonbass6058 Жыл бұрын
I have about 3500 vinyl records. I used to sell hi-fi between 1976 and 1983. If I'm ever JUST listening to music, it's ALWAYS vinyl. However, all things being equal, there is no way on God's green earth that vinyl sounds as good as a CD. But the key qualifier is "All things being equal". The problem with any digital format, however, is that often the source put into the format is not as good as the source put on the vinyl, e.g. loudness wars. But if one takes the original master recordings and puts them on a CD and vinyl, the CD will more accurately reproduce what was actually on the master recording (tape or otherwise) and it will be easily audible. The reason? In order to create a final master to convert to a vinyl stamper they have to reduce the dynamic range to ensure the needle stays in the groove when played back. Also, to get a decent amount of time on a record, without too much space being taken up by the groove. It's that simple, IF all things are equal. But since sources are NOT always equal, there are times when the vinyl will sound better than the CD. Again, a perfect example is the loudness wars. All that being said, there are so many other ways that I enjoy vinyl that have nothing to do with sound quality. i.e. the experience.
@alextaylor6707
@alextaylor6707 9 ай бұрын
Your best video ever! Canadian guy here. You bring such great, well balanced, perspective to all this and thanks for everything you do. I've learned more useful things about this subject than from anywhere else on the internet. In the last week I've used your advice to purchase a Pioneer sx-737 receiver and a Technics Sl-Q2 turntable. Can't believe my good fortune in finding your channel and perspective. If I'm ever in Des Moines I hope to pop by your store and shake your hand. Keep up the great work.
@skylabsaudio
@skylabsaudio 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad to help
@Winterfell1066
@Winterfell1066 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with your assessment about vinyl. I love it. I think I have 9 or 10 turntables? Not all of them work great. I have about 3000 Albums. Classic rock, plus jazz, show tunes, classical. I buy almost any albums that are in fantastic condition. I sit there, listen to them, look at the cover, look at the liner notes just like you described. Some.... I will never listen to again. Some have changed my thoughts on particular genres. For convenience, I listen to CDs a lot too. It is also a little nostalgic to me and for a while I was able to pick them up for very little money. I love vintage audio and love your channel. We had a few stereo stores in Jackson MS. Mainly Hooper Sound for higher end and then Radio Shack. I used to ride my bike to them before I got my license.
@mickconroy1741
@mickconroy1741 Жыл бұрын
First Skylabs video I’ve watched. Great info, very useful, much appreciated!
@hugobloemers4425
@hugobloemers4425 Жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin, I remember that back in the heyday of the record player the discussions direct drive versus belt drive where already passionate. So in a way, the story just continues. It is also nice to be passionate about something :) BTW, back in the day, there where also similar discussions about straight tone arms versus S shaped tone arms :D Perhaps less of a topic today, but back in the 80's, there would also be heated debates on whether the high end cassette decks had overtaken the reel to reel recorders, with passionate advocates on both sides.
@jackiecooley8812
@jackiecooley8812 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Kevin I enjoy your video’s. I’ve been into HiFi since my teens. I loved hitting the Stereo shops back in the 70’s. Once went to one in Enid Ok that sold McIntosh equipment I was blown away! I’ve listened to other podcast talking about HiFi equipment but they generally talk over my head. You bring it down to earth and easy to understand. Keep up the good work. If I’m ever in Des Moines‘s plan to visit your store.
@mikecampbell5856
@mikecampbell5856 Жыл бұрын
I always look forward to your videos. Vintage audio is my favorite subject and you cover it so well. In 1985 my wife surprised me with a CD player for my birthday. I fell in love with it and never looked back. I sold most of my vinyl and about 25 years ago gave my turntable to my son. Now if a manufacturer could come up with a device that could add clicks, pops, scratch and surface noise to my CDs.... Just kidding, my son loves vinyl and I think vinyl is cool, but it's just not for me.
@RC-74
@RC-74 Жыл бұрын
I started watching your channel only because one video came up as a suggestion. Because I watched the video I remembered that out in my garage was a system that I bought in the 1980's and hadn't set up in over 15 years (inexpensive Technics). A little clean up and a new belt for the turntable and I now have a method to play my old cassettes, vinyl, and CDs. I'm 74 and still have vinyl that I bought new in the 60's, cassettes from the 70's, and CDs from the late 80's and as recently as 5 years ago. I actually have duplicates on all three platforms, and can't really tell much difference in sound quality. Although that may be because of my stint in the Navy when I had to listen to Morse code for up to 16 hours a day.... Love your channel and would ask to please keep up the good work. I really enjoy your discussions. Thank you!
@ronwilgenbusch1961
@ronwilgenbusch1961 Жыл бұрын
My biggest thing I love about my vintage equipment is that I can control everything from the knobs and buttons. Everything is pre remote controls. I hate how most modern stuff is made where you can’t operate or change certain settings without having the remote(they remove buttons, knobs for sake of sleekness on the front). And inevitably the remote gets misplaced or broke(something spilled on it). If you know, you know. Thanks again Kevin for the great vids.
@13Voodoobilly69
@13Voodoobilly69 Жыл бұрын
🙌
@MarvinHartmann452
@MarvinHartmann452 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Having total control over what you buy is a luxury these days.
@goodun2974
@goodun2974 Жыл бұрын
The ultimate argument against equipment that is only operable with a remote control is, to paraphrase Frank Zappa, "battery leaks will cost you more than a quarter..." (from "Florentine Pogen")
@BTW...
@BTW... Жыл бұрын
The biggest thing that sux is no remote on 'vintage' gear. ...and that gear has less control functions than contemporary quality gear.
@aaronhayman8558
@aaronhayman8558 Жыл бұрын
I really don't miss having a remote, though I really do like the convenience of a semi-auto turntable that stops the record at the end of a side rather than skipping on the end of it until I pull the tonearm off of it and shut the motor down...
@johndietle9975
@johndietle9975 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work Kevin! Always enjoy watching your videos and gleaning your knowledge. Looking forward to driving to DesMoines and visiting your shop again.
@AndyBHome
@AndyBHome Жыл бұрын
I feel like you summed up my own thoughts about vinyl versus digital beautifully. I think it's much more about the master than the format, AND the interaction of any given master with the specific system that you're playing on. What I've been saying to people for years is: vinyl has been more than good enough since the late '60s, IF you are using good enough equipment. Very basic cheap turntables aren't as good as very well made models. That was the beauty of the CD - even cheap CD players sound pretty good, relatively speaking.
@Joe-mz6dc
@Joe-mz6dc Жыл бұрын
I am a guitar player so I own a DAW and it's super fun to listen to very high resolution digital audio. 24-bit 192 kilohertz. It's not a question of digital versus vinyl so much as quality versus lack of quality. I think a lot of people did not like CDs when they came out because they had bad experiences with Hardware or bad CDs. A quality system should be able to play any type of audio and make people happy.
@patmeadows4759
@patmeadows4759 Жыл бұрын
Well done Kevin. I just restored (as far as cleaning, lamps, and Deoxit controls) on a friends Yamaha 1010, plus restored the wood & new crossover caps on NLA Advent speakers. They added a iFi Zen Blue Bluetooth interface and they are super happy on the sound.
@jeffbrooke4892
@jeffbrooke4892 Жыл бұрын
As Carole Kaye of The Wrecking Crew put it, digital recording solved all of the problems that engineers had been dealing with for years. Records can sound incredible in spite of their shortcomings, but yeah it takes a big investment in playback gear to get you there. I too like both formats however there's one format you'll never find me making a dive back into and that's the world of cassette tapes. Thanks again for another great program.
@keysersoze7291
@keysersoze7291 Жыл бұрын
How about making a dive into 8-track tapes? To me, that's the biggest crap format.
@iplaymytele
@iplaymytele Жыл бұрын
New subscriber….! I started working at a music store that sold high-end stereo equipment in 1976…( that was a very good year 🎶❤️🎶 ) I have also been a professional Working Musician, all of my life , I am now 69 years old…👀 I worked at Mr. music for I believe three years… , during that time I was able to learn so much about stereo equipment. It was wonderful…🎶👍🏻🎶 My father and I built a recording studio in our hometown of Mattoon, Illinois , around 1978, or 1979 and it was a Excellent, a 8Track studio that my father and I owned and operated till my band went on the road in around 1980 or 1981…! ( Applause Studio ) so my knowledge of equipment music in the recording process has always been a blessing to me and a comfort…🙏🏻 all through my years. I have always tried to keep one or two nice stereo systems and I have a relatively nice collection of vintage vinyl….! I truly enjoy your channel , because it brings back so many memories of the different makes and Brands that I sold at Mr. music…! Keep up the good work your friend in Sweet home Alabama, Professor Jeff, GALEY🎶🎸👀 The Jeff Galey Channel..
@jcs3451
@jcs3451 Жыл бұрын
I certainly appreciate your effort to debunk vintage stereo myths. It is a fun hobby and your information is really helpful.
@madspecv
@madspecv Жыл бұрын
Great Video, it's nice to see that someone dosent go " Vinyl are better sounding" right off the bat. You are absolutely right, it all depends on the system and tu use you make of it. I have a 45-year-old Sansui G-6000 and I just love it. Got it completely recapped last year, I'll try to get another 45 years out of it! Paired with some Kef's 105.4, this system sounds amazing for what it is. I stream, have cd's and also have a record player (Rega P6 paired with a Hana SL cart and a Moon LP110 V2 phono pre amp). Not a bad setup but still, I have cd's that sound better, it is what it is. Keep up the good work, love the videos. Cheers
@pedrofernandez8729
@pedrofernandez8729 Жыл бұрын
Those who claim vinyl sound better use a phono cartridge that costs more than my whole system.
@sidtp7307
@sidtp7307 Жыл бұрын
Please do a video on the price point / tech point at which equipment improvements are outweighed by listening environment ie room shape, size and acoustic treatment. I also think that like in wine, there’s a sophistication point at which the average person can’t really perceive improvements in quality. True oenophiles and audiophiles can detect the differences, but the majority are using price as an index to quality and allowing reviews and appearance influence their level of satisfaction. It is well established that if you give people a wine and tell them it’s rated 96 points, then they enjoy it much more than if you tell them it’s 85 points
@johnpeace971
@johnpeace971 Жыл бұрын
Another thing you don't mention when talking about mastering in the 80s is record companies started mixing for cassettes to be played on boom boxes. No rock or pop music in the 80s had any bass, and I think this is part of what spurred rap producers to bring the bass back
@griffini19
@griffini19 Жыл бұрын
And by the way I dig your honesty and approach. But know that there are amazing things you haven’t been fortunate enough to experience. But love your attitude. ❤
@billwoods9302
@billwoods9302 Жыл бұрын
An aspect of the wattage myth that you forgot to mention is the importance of current in the output stage. A high current, low wattage amp will sound thicker, fuller and more controlled at reasonable listening levels than a low current, high wattage amp. Cheers!
@richardrose2606
@richardrose2606 Жыл бұрын
Correct. Wattage is average power (RMS) and current is peak power. My first receiver was an Advent 300 with a number of interesting features such as an FM only tuner and a pre-amp out/main amp in capability. It was only rated at 15 watts but was high current.
@mr.hamiltom5440
@mr.hamiltom5440 Жыл бұрын
The nature of the output sound is more dependent on the speaker design and whether you can exactly match the amplifier power to that design. A lower watt - mid current design works extremely well for very high efficiency (96db+) in my experience. The best advice is get the best speakers that meet your taste and than get the components that will run them.
@mkshffr4936
@mkshffr4936 Жыл бұрын
​@@richardrose2606Well in truth current isn't power at all but it is true that for inductive drive (most) speaker's the cone's motion is determined by current. In the real world the amplifier and speaker are a team and the impedance curve and sensitivity of the speaker must be compatible with the output characteristics of the amp.
@chadsteinacker7948
@chadsteinacker7948 Жыл бұрын
Dude….this channel was my gateway drug into vintage audio! Having a ball!!! My dad is a lifelong audiophile and he’s up to date with his system and room….but I’m loving grabbing some equipment that’s as old as me (also 50) and getting it playing well. Yamaha, HK, and AR stuff you talked about…is it super cheap - no - but compared to what dad is doing - no sweat….and it sounds good enough to my ears in my non-dedicated/multipurpose spaces with pets and kids all over the place! Thanks for all you are doing here and keep up the good work!
@40mmSummarit
@40mmSummarit Жыл бұрын
Good, common-sense advice. No hype. Refreshing!
@allpaulsfault
@allpaulsfault Жыл бұрын
I’m about to turn 50 in a few weeks. You have a great channel. I’m always learning something new everyday. Thank you for the store!
@realkevintaylor
@realkevintaylor Жыл бұрын
I just stumbled across your channel. I consider myself an audio file, but don’t listen to my vinyl or CD collection anymore because of the benefits of streaming you make the most sense and have the most logical thinking at any audio KZbin channel I’ve come across keep up the great work.
@duaneanderson2671
@duaneanderson2671 Жыл бұрын
Im in my late fifties and run across a few folks with expensive systems that i could never afford. Rather get advise from an actual repair shop than someone who way over spent to get a decent sound. You and your channel have saved a lot of people money when it comes to vintage audio, keep that in mind when reading negative comments from haters that know they overspent or may own overpriced systems. Got any suggestions on the 80's stuff as that is vintage nowadays as well. love the channel.
@brunoespinosa5907
@brunoespinosa5907 Жыл бұрын
Kevin your a great job with knowledge and experience. Keep it man. I recommend your store always when run individuals looking for or asking for vintage and repair. Love your patience and articulation of all things STEREO. 👏🙌♥️🎼
@sourceonepainting
@sourceonepainting Жыл бұрын
Hello Kevin I look forward to your videos. You speak my language, and I get a lot of common sense advice from you. Thank you. I wrote you before I am planning a motorcycle vacation probably to Sturgis in 2024. On this trip I plan on going to various vintage audio shops on my journey. I really hope to meet you and your staff next year. Keep up the great work. Thank you and take care
@DougBatien
@DougBatien Ай бұрын
I just started watching your videos and enjoy them immensely. If I’m ever in Iowa, I’ll definitely stop by. Thanks for sharing your experience.
@davidt8438
@davidt8438 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in Chicago back in the 60’s and 70’s and have been in a J C Whitney store. They also went by the name Warshasky. And I can’t describe the feeling of walking the isles with automotive items and parts except to say it was like a kid in a candy store. I still use my old Kenwood KR8050 that I bought from a store called Pacific Stereo and it has a beautiful warm sound with A, B and C speaker selection. Wish I could go back in time and enjoy stores like that again. Now a days I mostly use a Yamaha AS 3200 amp for my main stereo and a pair of Paradigm speakers and/or old JBL L100’s (which I bought new in 1974, and that tells you how old I am) I think we all have nostalgic feelings sometimes but in this case it’s warranted.
@tomday7309
@tomday7309 10 ай бұрын
Watching this again because you have really hit the nail on the head for the subject. As for vinyl vs digital, does anyone remember as we entered the 1980's that several labels (RCA for sure) produced albums that were thinner vinyl in the grooved portion and had a thick(normal) edge and center so they would play on changer systems. They were trying to save material ($$$) over the thousands of albums produced. My Technics turntable with a Shure cartridge could not play them and skipped horribly. Several albums were produced like this back then and did not help sales. But cassettes then CD's got popular and were more portable, as you said.
@gimble447
@gimble447 Жыл бұрын
You are so right in what you say, I’m your age ( 50 and n April 24) served my audio engineer apprenticeship in the early 90s where it was at the last big hurrah of still seeing gear from the early 70s onwards on a daily basis come in for servicing/ repair was the “norm” ( I’m based in the UK) I like you know my stuff but I most certainly still don’t know everything and am the first person to admit that, but my word some of the utter nonsense I see online is throughly mind blowing, I try my best to just keep out of it and “ do as I do” but honestly it’s no wonder that some people are so misguided with the utter minefield of complete and utter misinformation that is presented as “ fact” it’s actually truly laughable really, it’s been refreshing to find your channel, keep up the great work.
@steveallen489
@steveallen489 Жыл бұрын
Kevin,,, you do a wonderful job with your videos. Your humble spirit shines through and you just come across as an old friend trying to help people with this hobby of stereo equipment. You are so spot on in this one about how music in the 60's and 70's was listened to in the home. I am over 60yo now and everyone's house in the neighborhood had a console system or separates. I have seen a pretty good amount of quality pieces of gear at estate sales in the past 10 years, and even bought a few of these myself. Thanks for your voice in this space!
@atomkraft69
@atomkraft69 Жыл бұрын
kevin, no matter what, it's always a pleasure to hear what you say... greetings from Italy 😀😀
@Sunrayman123
@Sunrayman123 10 ай бұрын
Kevin, You remind me of everybody's best High School friend who went on with the stuff and now you are the GURU on the You Tube! Keep On Truckin, Man!!!
@drsbranch-wn2vx
@drsbranch-wn2vx Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video/commentary, Kevin. Keep up the great work.
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