'Guess what? I don't trust you': Paul Murray calls Chris Bowen’s bluff on EV savings

Sky News host Paul Murray says he doesn’t trust Energy Minister Chris Bowen’s promise that purchasing an electric car will save Australians money, as a potential SUV and ute tax looms.
The Australian Government is set to introduce a New Vehicle Efficiency Standard for cleaner and cheaper-to-run cars, as well as holding a vote in Sydney and Melbourne on whether to tax SUV and ute drivers.
“Guess what Chris? I don’t trust you,” Mr Murray said.
“I don’t trust the people working for you.
“I don’t trust your bosses.
“Because you have an option right in front of you today to be able to show that you are willing to save people money.
“But what you are trying to do is change the cars that we drive, because it makes you feel better, it makes the lobby groups that demand it feel better.”

[@whiskeygamer9402]

EVs are a waste of money and too dangerous 🔥🤣

[@les_spoddy4073]

Ticking time bomb is what they are.

[@RDHZRD]

Not to mention there isn't enough resources in the world for everyone to change to EV's. They will remain a woke person's dream.

[@metricstormtrooper]

​@@les_spoddy4073bunch of brain dead morons are you.

[@garyemerson9310]

YEP A WASTE OF TAXPAYERS MONEY AND DANGEROUS JUST LIKE E.V. S ALBO BOWEN LABOR GREENS COMMUNIST PARTY

[@1ihws]

@@les_spoddy4073 no, that’s the clock on the wall that you’re listening to when you’re checking out the weather map from the bureau of meteorology!😝

[@jazzysnaps]

Has Bowen actually have the brains to drive a car.

[@crowbar357]

Does Bowen actually have a brain or is he just another AI programmed by another AI.

[@elainehodge9415]

Doubt it, he can't do anything other than be a dork!!!

[@grahamsengineering.2532]

Bowen is incompetent.

[@johngurney1069]

no that's why he uses commonwealth cars to drive him around,

[@allenjenkins7947]

He's lucky that there is no intelligence test involved in getting a driving licence, but so are a lot of other morons on our roads. It's a pity that there's no intelligence test for members of Parliament.

[@guido1866]

Chris Bowen is a liar and persists in spewing his deceitful rhetoric.

[@richardsuter2816]

This creep is beyond a scum bag he’s dangerous

[@samuelmoulds1016]

yeah, but he looks so believable.

[@peterimoldi5353]

You need to clean your glasses@@samuelmoulds1016

[@leeevans2929]

@@samuelmoulds1016he looks like a wimp

[@1ihws]

@davidhodder4479NO! Have a look at yourself in the mirror, and work out that like everyone else in the world, you are pushing your own agenda whilst totally ignoring the really basic things like people (women) who have worked all their bloody lives, borne children, not had consistent “careers” but the ‘shitty’ jobs in between children that they could find, even if they paid under the minimum wage. Why don’t you go and buy yourself a pair of satin boxer shorts with a nuclear warning printed on them, and shut up!

[@westhillswood51]

I was on vacation in Australia and New Zealand last month and talked to a bunch of people who liked my Los Angeles accent! There are many parralels between LA and Sydney, not least of which is the Leftist political agenda on full display. The ideas sound good but always prove out to be lousy in practice. Free housing, high minimum wage, more bicycle lanes in high-traffic zones, etc. The greens and lefties are deep both here and there but real people have begun to see for themselves how those ideas are harming the city, state, and country we are all so proud of.

[@JohnsonCranium]

I spoke to a Californian backpacker in Sydney 20 years ago… he was a black guy with dreadlocks. From Venice beach I think 🤔 can’t remember, we got pretty drunk 🥴👍 He said coming to Sydney was a waste of time and money because it felt like the home he just flew from 😂 I agreed with him… Sydney is a crap hole 🕳️ 💩 Very americanised. We got drunk 🥴 vomited in a gutter together/ had fun 🤩 feeding the bums in the park. Bought them drinks 🍷 and had a party 🎉 He left, and so too did I… 😂 🍺 👋 Moving away from that crap hole was the best thing I ever did! Thanks 🙏 to random black dreadlocked beer drinking yank! Glad I listened to your worldview 🙏 you were right! 🍺🤣👍

[@ShaneMcGrath.]

Any more Emoji's and I would think you were a CCP 50c troll or bot!

[@JohnsonCranium]

@@ShaneMcGrath. you can think 🤔 whatever you like …. It’s the only thing you’re free to do anymore 💁‍♂️🤣

[@jimbooo1365]

So disconnected... i have a single cab ute which i need for work. The whole thing is full of tool boxes, which are full of tools and a 600kg trailer towed behind. How far is an electric vehicle going to get me? Id love to drive a small hatch back, but I can't put tools in the back seat. My ute provides me the abilty to pay GST, provisional tax and business tax to your coffers. No idea whatsoever Mr Bowen...

[@gregsullivan7408]

Superbly said - thankyou!

[@07headshot]

Ok Paul start a petition to Chris "I can't count the boats " Bowen, demanding cut to taxes and leave our 4x4's alone. Talk is cheap Paul. Get a million plus signatures and drop them on his fking desk. I want a response. I'm ready to sign now!!!!!

[@johngeier8692]

We need a petition to demand that Australia withdraw from Paris Accord , repeal the renewable energy targets legislation and use the most economical energy resources available.

[@maxfish4770]

​@johngeier8692 let's get cracking then, online petition would get millions of signatures

[@metricstormtrooper]

​@@maxfish4770half the people commenting here would have difficulty finding it online, bunch of bogan morons.

[@SteveHoffmann]

Hold them to account, they must say how many litres of petrol that $1800 saving is based on. Cant do it.

[@stevenfenton3227]

Bowen is following orders

[@Barney_Rubble247]

He has to be, he's insane.

[@kevkoala]

"Ve vill make you eat ze bugs!"

[@andyjay9346]

Blackout Bowen's getting a promotion. It will be Bullsheet Bowen but he will still retain the powers (huh) of Blackout Bowen.

[@nevillejohnson8316]

Shipping companies are more than likely to reject EV's on their ship's, along with the company's providing insurance for said cargo...

[@blizzard5657]

It's all smoke and mirrors. Fuel efficiency has been automatically increasing by the manufacturer's, that's how they sell the new cars, the car companies have people working on better fuel economy. No car company is going to introduce a newer model car that costs more to drive? If they did, we would send them to Canberra and put them in charge as the minister for the environment 😅😂😊

[@ianoates378]

What car do you drive Minister Bowen?

[@clydesimpson1462]

Pedal car.

[@Prognosis__]

He has a commonwealth car paid by taxpayers

[@Prognosis__]

@@clydesimpson1462lol😅 peadough car

[@ianoates378]

Most of the time I would suggest that he is driven around in petrol driven government vehicles. @@clydesimpson1462

[@MrBigMatt123]

A EV that you pay for via us tax payes

[@rodcook7266]

Bowen tells us , we will save $1800 ,but the car he wants us to get is $40,000 dearer to purchase! So to break even it will take 22 years. The ute /car will be stuffed.It's about time the media call this crap out , Take note 9/10 they wet their pants when each way elbo comes on TV.

[@Kawasaki1-m4l]

Well said i agree totally.

[@boofyhalfpint8559]

How the heck can I save $1800 in the bush? My nearest supermarket/doctor/dentist etc is 30+ kilometres away!!!! Fuel costs devour our budget like a raging monster! Any medical problems I have to travel 500+ Kilometres for treatment. I cannot sit around charging stations for ages on these sort of trips it would take me days to get anywhere! EV cars in the bush! Get real!

[@davepowelldrumz]

they'll make you move into a nice city apartment.

[@lock8433]

You save $1800 on fuel, then you pay an extra $3500 on electricity....😂 Dont forget the battery will shit itself within 8 years. No thanks

[@trevorgale1176]

There is a market for EV's. However there are a lot of tasks they cannot. EV buses and trucks don't work, EV's cannot tow, they cannot go off-road, they cannot be used in remote areas, they cannot be used in hot or cold climates. As far as cost's, car rental companies cannot afford to run them, case closed. The only thing the government can do is continually increase the cost of ICE vehicles. But that's the point of "Net Zero", it's not to save the planet, it's a excuse to raise taxes, over and over again.

[@justincarman943]

Save a thousand dollars, just like the $275 we were promised

[@tkn4aride799]

Bowen is not working for Australia

[@MrOlgrumpy]

Who is the puppeteer pulling the strings ? the &^# ?

[@johngeier8692]

The voice of delusional insanity permeates the current government which is colluding with ridiculous and economically destructive popular delusions.

[@peterschaefer2946]

i will never buy one

[@vikkisum5272]

Is there anyone that would trust Bowen ?

[@gordonc8335]

Paul, you will never want to own an EV even when you have one. You have a house, you can plug it in. But you will still want to go on long trips whare you will have to stand in a que for more than one hour. On a hot day youll have to get out of your with all your kids and loita around the charging station

[@MrAndrew1953]

How did Bowen get a licence?

[@brettlane6908]

Good on you Paul 👍

[@sleebanger]

the mining companies are responsible for 95% of Australia's carbon.

[@garyemerson9310]

WELL THATS GOOD BECAUSE WITHOUT CARBON WE ARE ALL DEAD AND IF YOU LOOK THE PLANT LIFE AND TREES ARE THRIVING AND DOING THEIR JOB FOR US PURIFYING THE AIR WE BREATH COMPLETE WITH CLEAN CARBON WE NEED FOR OUR SURVIVAL WAKE UP

[@johngeier8692]

The carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuels are largely beneficial. Benefits include increased agricultural yields (main effect) reduced winter heating costs, fewer deaths from hypothermia and postponement of the next glacial maximum. We are currently burdened with a large cohort of dishonest duplicitous politicians who are colluding with ridiculous and economically destructive popular delusions.

[@sharonjensen3016]

I agree with you, Mr. Paul Murray. I don't trust Chris Bowen either. My trust in all politicians is dead and can't possibly be revived.

[@philipmilosevich7268]

Great commentary Paul!!!

[@timwilson4684]

I would have more trust for a red bellied black snake than I would for Foghorn Leghorn.

[@Sapphiregirl3]

Most intelligent Australians feel the same way.

[@Henry1965ism]

1:10 I knew it! I made a prediction some time ago that they would talk about cars over a certain age that you could no longer renew your registration. As this is at state government level it would require every state to do this. I smell another mandate coming on. Look at a certain event that happened a couple of years ago. Every state fell into line with it. Did you think that one state would hold out and say no to a mandate? This will be no different. Once one state does it then another state will do it and then another one until they all cave in. I'm still driving my 1998 VT Commodore. I bought it in 2000 and it's still running and suits me fine.

[@guringai]

Definitely a good time to get an EV. Plenty of charging at home & highways now It's a shame that mobs like Sky shouted down the efficiency standards back in 20

[@Sellout-Singh]

There are plenty of things going on in the world as examples of what not to do. Californians is now thinking of charging $.30 a mile to EV users because the money they used to make off gas tax is not enough to maintain the roads. Let’s start with hybrids & go from there.

[@terrysipple]

Make believe

[@geoffbeavis6426]

I spend 80% of my driving towing . I live in the snowy mountains. How the hell can l buy an EV ? Too small and no sufficient range.

[@Gregory-i4r]

PS don't park on your garage, you may loose your house. If it's a rental & an insurance decided not to cover a battery fire, who pays, not the landlord,I'd bet.

[@TimPrestia-Cook]

It's fascinating how no one acknowledges that in Europe UK and the US there is NO market for second hand Electric vehicles and motor dealers will not trade them due to the lack of long term viability of battery life, the cost of replacement and the complete lack of availability. This cost, let alone time is 40% of the vehicle..... how are the owners of current electric vehicles going to absorb this cost.... I would suggest it will be a major financial hardship that will take years to overcome and I doubt will ever have them make the mistake again.... factor in this situation when you cannot get rid of the old electric car and the $50k "asset" is sitting with no value in the drive as a boat anchor and the running cost of these vehicles becomes frightening.....

[@grahammatthews8645]

Where does the petrol tax money come from when we all drive EVs?

[@lachfinch6950]

Can't wait till this election come on Australia wake up and vote these mob of crooks out

[@cam_934]

The big joke here is when you have many Billions being collected in fuel tax while they are pushing hard for 100% EV's then they will have to eventually tax EV's to recover the declining fuel tax. Its the old bait and switch, save money!... now but you will pay for it latter. By the way just look at how much per kWh people are paying at charging stations as it isn't likely you can save money with EV's unless you have off street parking and can charge at home off an EV power tariff. Also better get 3 phase installed and at least 2 charges because most house holds have more than 1 car.

[@petercocks7209]

Cut petroleum tax and cigarette tax and alcohol tax Australia is over taxed We can not afford government We would be better off without governments in Australia

[@bobbrown5529]

I own a 2003 Toyota land cruiser 4x4 ( 4.7 lt ) 250,000 klms on the clock . It is in a top condition , no bints , the engine runs like a kitten etc . I have owned it for nearly 10 years , and am not in the market to buy another vehicle . I am also 69 years old and receive a pension . Luckly I live in a council controlled 2 bdrm unit . What am I supposed to do , if bowen brings all this EV , BS into being . I am unable to even get a $2,000 credit card , let alone get a $30,000 car loan . There will be NO second hand vehicle market , so you would have to buy a brand new vehicle . I live in remote Australia , NO public transport , No nothing and because of road conditions you do require a 4x4 . EV's may work in the cities and close proximity , leave us country people alone . The entire thing should be voluntary . NOT left up to a narcissist like bowen , a figment of his own power . Great job Paul, as Pauline would say ." keep the bastards honest "

[@hamishwarren3278]

Petrol and Diesel are insignificant as a pollutantwhen you take into account the manufacturing of all the vehicles parts especially Tyres as well as the Roads and road building materials and construction . We cannot do without the natural worldly elements no matter how it’s spun.

[@dominicgalante7501]

no we don't trust him nor Albanese NOR LABOR OUT

[@garysheppard4028]

I don't mind if Australia imposes better fuel economy measures on car builders. Saves us from just becoming a dumping ground for the crap they can't sell elsewhere. Along with saving whatever it turns out to be in fuel. When the LNP proposed exactly the same thing a few years ago (but didn't go through with it) they also said exactly what Labor is saying now. But the auto industry got to them and they squibbed it. Strangely, I didn't hear Sky bitching about it then...

[@davidcarter4247]

Bowen's sales pitch on behalf of Chinese EVs shows that he does not care about the motoring needs of country drivers. All his data is about money saving EVs is in cities where the average speeds are under 50kmh and much time is spent sitting idle. Flat tyres are a tiny screw hole, a destination after a flat tyre a short drive away at urban speeds, a new tyre something that can bought at any time. EVs in the bush are being stranded for hours with a blown tyre and no spare, a new tyre days away, of range anxiety because it is not that recharge stations are far apart, whole towns are. Rural driving can slash up to 25% off how far an EV can go between recharges because 100kmh+ speeds are not what EVs were designed for. It results in high discharge rates that are just as battery life shortening as high recharge rates.

[@warwickcathro2650]

There is a contradiction here in political strategy. The Coalition is targetting outer suburban electorates. These are the very electorates that will lead the way in EV take up, because of the long commute distances, the price of petrol, and the fact that the homes in these electorates have power points where their cars are parked. And many of them have solar panels. Yet the anti EV campaigns of the Coalition and of Sky News are in direct conflict with this trend. Have they thought this through?

[@frankmontanari5534]

Would you park your EV in the garage overnight for charging ?????

[@TheScary79]

No thanks, I will never own an EV under any circumstances I don't trust the government either side full stop so I won't give them full control of a car that I didn't want in the first place

[@gail9906]

Would NEVER entertain an EV. 🤬❤️🇦🇺🦘

[@murrayslee911]

Don't believe any utterance Bowen or the ALP expounds about net zero or EV's or fuel efficiency . Their policies are impoverishing working Australians.

[@ThatGuy-ze5kk]

but their word is their bond!!🤣🤣

[@shaunllewellyn6058]

0.04% still hasn't changed.

[@leeevans2929]

But, they have a plan

[@elainehodge9415]

​@@ThatGuy-ze5kk and you believe them??? 😂😅😂😅.(sarcastic remark)

[@EarthRook]

They are a bunch of idiots but I own a Tesla and it only uses $5 of power to do 400kms. No servicing either. It’s crazy cheap to own and run.

[@user-ph3jj4lr9c]

Labour, Albo, Bowen have no connection with the working class Aussies- Labour is as useful as second hand Toilet paper in Government.

[@nigelmorgan3449]

That wouldn’t be made in Australia it’s made in Thailand 1 ply

[@wongnaichungrd]

Careerist politicians! Policy is made on political consideration rather than the good of the country. The ALP features second and third raters, who are at the beck and call of their union masters. None of them could run a school tuck shop efficiently.

[@derekthompson2868]

I think l prefer the second hand toilet paper

[@AussieDazza]

It is Labor.

[@seanworkman431]

'second hand toilet paper', that's a new one for me, mind if I borrow the joke?

[@guymoschella4066]

NO Thanks to an EV it's going to cost you tens of thousands to replace that not so green battery . Keep up the good work Paul Murray in exposing these lying grubs.

[@patrickwakefield2297]

bowen conveniently forgets all the problems, and there are many. he is a moron. he only has to look at u tube reports to find out what is going on.. falling interest all over the world, and other low emission alternatives being developed. how does such a dope get into a position of influence that will effect all our lives in a bad way.

[@savagegfry]

EVs are an environmental, and financial train wreck, happening in slow motion.

[@geoffreytoomey682]

@@savagegfry All part of the successful Globalist Plan, the United Nations Climate Change “scam” Darling "Chris Bowen" wakes up to a perfect world, "Save the Planet, ban all petroleum products" Poor Chris Bowen. Life without petroleum and petroleum-based products. One crisp winter morning in Australia the UNs darling named Chris Bowen woke up to a perfect world, one where no petroleum products were ruining the earth. He tossed aside his cotton sheet and wool blanket and stepped out onto a dirt floor covered with willow bark that had been pulverized with rocks. “What’s this?” he asked. “Pulverized willow bark,” replied her fairy godmother. “What happened to the carpet?” Chris asked. “The carpet was nylon, which is made from butadiene and hydrogen cyanide, both made from petroleum,” came the response. Chris Bowen smiled, acknowledging that adjustments are necessary to save the planet, and moved to the sink to brush his teeth where instead of a toothbrush, he found a willow, mangled on one end to expose wood fibre bristles. “Your old toothbrush?” noted his godmother, “Also nylon.” “Where’s the water?” asked Chris Bowen “Down the road in the canal,” replied his godmother, just make sure you avoid water with cholera in it.” “Why’s there no running water?” Chris Bowen asked, becoming a little peevish. “Well,” said her godmother, who happened to teach engineering at MIT, “Where do we begin?” There followed a long monologue about how sink valves need elastomer seats and how copper pipes contain copper, which has to be mined and how it’s impossible to make all-electric earth-moving equipment with no gear lubrication or tires and how ore has to be smelted to a make metal, and that’s tough to do with only electricity as a source of heat, and even if you use only electricity, the wires need insulation, which is petroleum-based, and though most of Australias energy is produced in an environmentally friendly way because of hydro and nuclear, if you do a mass and energy balance around the whole system, you still need lots of petroleum products like lubricants and nylon and rubber for tires and asphalt for filling potholes and wax and iPhone plastic and elastic to hold your underwear up while operating a copper smelting furnace and . . . “What’s for breakfast?” interjected Chris Bowen, whose head was hurting. "Fresh, range-fed chicken eggs,” replied his godmother. “Raw.” “How so, raw?” inquired Chris Bowen. “Well, . . .” Once again, Chris Bowen was told about the need for petroleum products like transformer oil and scores of petroleum products essential for producing metals for frying pans and in the end was educated about how you can’t have a petroleum-free world and then cook eggs. Unless you rip your front fence up start a fire and carefully cook your egg in an orange peel like you do in Boy Scouts. Not that you can find oranges in Australia anymore. “But I want poached eggs like my Aunt Tilda makes,” lamented Chris Bowen. “Tilda died this morning,” the godmother explained. “Bacterial pneumonia.” “What!” interjected Chris Bowen “No one dies of bacterial pneumonia! We have penicillin.” “Not anymore,” explained godmother “The production of penicillin requires chemical extraction using isobutyl acetate, which, if you know your organic chemistry, is petroleum-based. Lots of people are dying, which is problematic because there’s not any easy way of disposing of the bodies since backhoes need hydraulic oil and crematoriums can’t really burn many bodies using as fuel Australian fences and furniture, which are rapidly disappearing - being used on the black market for roasting eggs and staying warm.” This represents only a fraction of Chris Bowen's day, a day without microphones to exclaim into a day without much food, and a day without carbon-fibre boats to sail in, but a day that will save the planet. Tune in tomorrow when Chris Bowen needs a root canal and learns how Novocain is synthesized.

[@1ihws]

I’m still waiting for someone to work out that Paul Murray is annoyed at the fact that someone pinched the batteries for his slot car set and now he can’t have a shave with his battery operated razor or clean his teeth with his battery operated toothbrush!

[@guymoschella4066]

@@1ihwsIs that the best you can do to put Murray down . Wow defend a useless human been like Bowen thieving oxygen from a snake .

[@IcanBePsycho]

I can’t wait to vote this mob out!

[@pacnbeans]

The ALP are not worthy of being called a mob ! They are GRUBS that need to crawl back down their opposition hole !

[@TedTed-o2x]

Make sure you do not vote liberal national n greens as well. Same sh$t different smell.

[@barrycuda3769]

Good, but, what's the opposing mob's attitude about all this EV stuff ? Our new government in NZ , is making a lot more sense than we've been used to for too many years. I hope the same is coming for Australia. 🙂

[@CraigAB69]

There needs to be an entry on the ballot "No suitable candidate found". They are 2 cheeks of the same A$$.

[@savagegfry]

Whats the alternative? Ted O'Brien has not directly rejected this, and the Libs are persisting with "net zero", which is itself a massive fraud.

[@nomyafiftyonefifty8081]

They only just recently did a comparison with 2 BMW's, one petrol, one electric. And the petrol one shat all over the electric both in the cost of the trip and the time to do it.

[@EarthRook]

Yep but when you charge at home over night, it’s 8x cheaper than charging at superchargers. If your daily drive is less than the batteries capacity, so you charge at home almost all the time like I do. It saves you a crap load. $5 per 400kms is what I pay in nsw to run my model y. I just put up with the extra time to charge on long trips as the rest of the time it works in my favour. Also no services to budget for.

[@ng4410]

If EV battery replaced eg for $16K every 8 years life cycle... That means just the new EV battery in car loses $40 value per week for 8 years ? Plus car depreciation on top. So an 8 year old 2nd hand EV needs a $16k + investment to keep it viable.. At current rates. Probably be $32 k by then..A new 12 volt car battery loses 40 cents per week in value over 8 years. Hope China will keep supplying the $32k units by then.

[@playlistofthegods]

@@EarthRookgood luck at home mate, I like to go for a drive and visit other places.

[@8101nevermind]

Yep true as mate

[@8101nevermind]

​@@EarthRooksounds like a lot of extra crap I just pull up and gone in 3mins from my petrol station 😂

[@tadroid3858]

Bowen is a creepy little dude whose motto is: "I am, therefore I lie."

[@kirkc4696]

He shows all the 'little man' attributes too! What a horrible little weasel he is!

[@l4rrikin]

The bottom line is the bottom line. Economy is headed backwards, Chalmers looking very nervous.

[@lordoftheharvest1]

Chalmers has no clue on finance

[@robharris6874]

The market in EV`s is failing already, China got a heap just sitting there !!

[@batmanlives6456]

And 8 EVs per day catch fire in Beijing…. So that’s good for the environment…..

[@ShaneMcGrath.]

That's just the one's they let everyone know about! EV bikes are even worse, High rise apartments on fire because of dodgy EV bike batteries.

[@TB-up4xi]

@@batmanlives6456 22 ICE cars catch fire PER HOUR in the USA every year.

[@kirkc4696]

China have also destroyed a lot of Evs too, because no one wants them.

[@kirkc4696]

​@@ShaneMcGrath.Electric scooters have been the source of devastating house fires because of the batteries exploding.

[@drazmarinic5991]

Remember albo complaining about 1:79 a litre petrol under coalition government 😮 the irony imagine a 2nd term with these clowns

[@indiathylane2158]

Had Ukraine been attacked then? Shutting off pipelines & making ships take a much longer route? Had we emerged from Covid then, eager to spend lots of $$?

[@johnleigh1303]

clowns is being too kind.

[@peterhoulis1184]

More lies from LABOUR so im keeping my 59yr old car

[@AussieDazza]

It is LABOR, not Labour.

[@metricstormtrooper]

Did you buy it to celebrate your 30th birthday you fossil.

[@bonkers5011]

Obviously Chris Bowen has not read Paul Maric's article regarding EV charging experience in California where they have the biggest uptake of EVs in America. Hopeless.

[@johngeier8692]

Electric vehicles preceded internal combustion engine cars. They went largely obsolete due to problems with the battery. The battery remains a big heavy costly problem.

[@doratsolakis9069]

How about asking what people want... after all they are supposed to be working for the public

[@davepowelldrumz]

those times have long passed.

[@dennisstephens8793]

They are dangerous

[@NoelineHobbs]

Why are Labor still in front in polls 😫😫😫

[@metricstormtrooper]

​@@NoelineHobbsbecause there are far more people who like them than morons who don't.

[@baldrick6071]

They talk as though the majority can afford to go out and buy an EV when most are struggling to put food on the table. They are completely disconnected with everyday Aussies!

[@krealm2401]

Combined with what is beginning to look like a passive-aggressive attempt to restrict movement - a key requirement in the global elite's totalitarian wet dream. If you cannot afford to operate a combustion car or an EV, then your only option is to walk or ride a bicycle - effectively limiting the frequency and distance you can travel. Restricting movement and transport can help a totalitarian government in several ways: 1) Control and Surveillance: By limiting the movement of individuals and controlling transportation systems, the government can monitor the activities of its citizens more effectively. This makes it easier to identify potential dissenters or opposition groups. 2) Suppression of Dissent: Restrictions on movement can prevent organized protests or gatherings. By making it difficult for people to travel to meet or demonstrate, governments can stifle opposition and maintain their grip on power. 3) Social Fragmentation: By controlling movement, the government can fragment communities and reduce social cohesion. When people are unable to interact freely, it weakens potential networks of resistance. 4) Increased Dependence on the State: By limiting personal movement, people can become more reliant on the state for transportation and resources, reinforcing the regime’s power and authority.

[@Gavin-qh7li]

If and when EVs become popular it could take hours to line up and charge up. Two people in front of you and your there for 2 to 3 hours

[@maxfish4770]

Until you can plug them straight into a power point and charge enough for 3 or 4 hundred kms in as many minutes, they won't even get a look in, except for teals and greens

[@maxfish4770]

@@slimlinebond exactly, might work in cities or the suburbs. No good for the bush, might be 800km round trip to town

[@Luum81]

Longreach to Rockhampton - 686km. Brisbane to Sydney - 917km Brisbane to Bundaberg - 372km Sydney to Melbourne - 876km Rockhampton to Biloela - 143.6 km Brisbane to Miles - 339km Brisbane to Roma - 481km Brisbane to Townsville - 1,359km Furthest a current EV can get you with just a driver, good conditions and no excess luggage: $112,475 will get you a Lucid Air Grand Touring that will cover 830km. Charging will only take you 5 hours 39 minutes. $76,630 nets you a Tesla Model S, giving 651.784 km. 7 hours charging, unless there's a fast charger then you can go from 10% to 80% in half an hour. and the list goes on. And these are apparently the best on offer at the moment. Oh the joy.

[@mickm6309]

The range of EV's can be affected by the weather and also the batteries deteriorate over time.

[@indiathylane2158]

@@maxfish4770 Which is why shopping malls are installing charging stations. You charge your car while you shop.

[@simonemullucks9446]

Chris Bowen needs to go!

[@sharonjensen3016]

Along with his EV.

[@NoelineHobbs]

New environment bill coming out Bowen in charge He will decide Australias future on building etc 😡😡😡

[@roz7441]

He and the whole Labor party along with him

[@radambrose7571]

Bowen has a face that even a mother just could not love.

[@debbiebrookes]

It's punchable😆

[@debbiebrookes]

It's punchable 😆

[@charliedontsurf4543]

Bowen is living Proof mothers shouldn't drink alcohol when pregnant

[@memine3704]

When Chris was born, the doctor slapped his mother. Chris was already crying...

[@indiathylane2158]

But yours loved Chris last night. _Alllll_ night.

[@steeldragon5867]

More expensive to buy, more expensive to insure, useless outside of cities, can't trade them in no one wants a second hand one, totally useless, just like Bowen

[@ShaneMcGrath.]

And soon to be, Can't park them in shopping centres underground/undercover car parks!

[@buncha5651]

No EV for me.😊

[@AUCongnitiveRealist]

We have the option to buy vehicles that use less fuel now... You can buy the eco version with the 1.3L engine but guess what, we don't want it! Stand by for our deluded overlords to bend us to their will regardless though.

[@jamessippel7489]

Hey mate . Can you explain to families that farmers in Australia are going backwards because of these over educated idiots we have in parliament . The increase in electricity, fuel, wages, seedlings and seeds , fertiliser, insurance,transport taxes and our water security. That is just a couple of examples. I'm a 5th generation farmer. And have a son who would like to be 6th. This government needs to think about who puts food on Australian people and family plates. And clothes on their backs.

[@JohnsonCranium]

I tell youngins today… save up your money… buy a plane ticket 🎫 ✈️ Pick a destination 🌎 And don’t come back 👋 Your future here is already wasted… don’t bother 💁‍♂️ Start something new somewhere else… take your money with you. You’re young and have a whole life ahead of you…build it elsewhere and don’t waste it here keeping the wolves at bay at the door 🚪 🐺 That’s ⬆️ what I tell anyone in their 20s… This country is headed down the crapper 🚽 💩 may as well wipe and flush and move on! 😉👍

[@metricstormtrooper]

Overeducated compared to the rest of the population, or overeducated compared to YOU, the former is inaccurate, the latter is a certainty moron.

[@metricstormtrooper]

​@@JohnsonCraniumand thankfully none of them listen to you because your and stupid old fart with zero grasp on reallity.

[@WitchDoctor-m9s]

I'm sure Bowen was a Budgerigar in his past life. 😂

[@peterlederer3896]

If Bowen was a budgie in his last life Tony Abbott musy have smuggled him in, those budgie smugglers

[@ohasis8331]

He wasn't smart enough.

[@barryjones4973]

Actually, he was an amoeba🥳

[@lornatodd4750]

A hen. 😅

[@riffcaster]

He was a cockroach that got the bug spray. Now he's trying to get revenge.

[@Whiskers74]

Fuel prices in Sydney are insane at the moment. It cost me almost $40 to fill my motorbike on Sunday, but there's no way I'm straddling a Li-Po battery. I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid. I'm glad my car doesn't run at the moment too, cause it's got an 80L tank, and only runs on 98. Being on a pension, that would cost me about 1/4 of my fortnightly income just to fill it at the moment. We the people need a revolution to take back our power, and remind the gruberment that they work for us, not the other way around.

[@mjorr3081]

EVs - i could not do my work all over the state if i had to utilise an electric vehicle - no one is going to pay me to sit in a carpark to charge a vehicle and reduce my work hours to allow me to support the cars charging requirements. It will be me not being able to work, in my field, not by my choice

[@davepowelldrumz]

you'll only need to drive for 15 minutes across your 15 min city not all over the state.

[@andrewwarcup684]

They will give you a diesel generator to tow to keep the EV charged😅

[@metricstormtrooper]

Travelling gigolo?

[@pegsmith8401]

Don't forget that not only does the govt get the petrol tax of 49+cents they also get the GST on each litre of fuel sold.

[@iamasmurf1122]

GST is not on every litre of fuel it is 10 percent of the total cost , which you can also claim for if you are running a sole trader business via your taxes which most tradesmen are eligible for.

[@pegsmith8401]

@@iamasmurf1122 GST is calculated on your purchase whether it is one litre or many. Ordinary people, the majority of purchasers, are not entitled to claim back the GST through three monthly Bas statements. So not only do the govt get the petrol excise but they also collect the GST - it's a lot of $$$'s for them

[@robfowler3824]

Well said and so bloody true.

[@JohnPatersonAu]

They could also cut immigration which would save renters a lot more more than $1800/yr. More like $1800/mth.

[@johngeier8692]

The EVs are much more expensive and suffer from much higher depreciation. This negates any savings on fuel.

[@indiathylane2158]

They _have_ cut immigration. The decision on that large surge was reversed.

[@metricstormtrooper]

​@@johngeier8692bull 💩

[@tonywilkey4369]

There is one thing smart people don't do and that is don't tell people what to do! the Yes proposal was a classic of the sick and tired Australians back lash.

[@malcolmhector2641]

You will save $1000 for 1 reason , you wont be able to drive it cause petrol will way more expensive . As the old joke went,,, i bought a car for $10 , but the only problem was i need a loan for the petrol to fill it up so i could take it hm.

[@williamboney7371]

Not one Australian would trust Casanova Bowen.

[@peterwilson102]

This No care factor Government makes me sick 🤬🤮👎👎👎

[@Genesis-007]

Guess what? Australians don't trust both major parties, 🇦🇺VOTE ONE NATION 🇦🇺 PROBLEM SOLVED

[@lukeclifton4392]

I believe the last election had a “Huge” increase in PHON voters… unfortunately our biased “preferential voting” system meant votes went back to the parties people never intended! Australians need more education to vote “below the line”… to stop these either of these parties being “elected by default”!!

[@GeorgePapadopolous]

Vote for the fringe extremist racist Climate Change denier One Nation? No thanks.

[@Genesis-007]

@@lukeclifton4392 Sadly the previous election favoured the greens in the independent race as there are a lot of misguided voters out there who are incapable of making an informed decision instead allowing mainstream media do all the thinking for them. Craig Kelly now on board with One Nation could potentially reign in a lot of votes.

[@mwkoppe64]

Absolutely agree 100% 👍👍

[@johngeier8692]

One Nation does not collude with the Climate Delusion, the Energy Transition Delusion nor the Aboriginal Nation Delusion. Voting should be regarded as a privilege and be restricted to qualified taxpayers.

[@robmadaffari6270]

Unleaded fuel in Indonesia which is imported costs $1.10 at the bowser, saw it for my own eyes last week.

[@indiathylane2158]

The average wage in Indonesia was $9,400 US in 2023. About $14,200 Aus. P.A. That's _average,_ meaning most of them earn a lot less. I'd rather live here.

[@robmadaffari6270]

@@indiathylane2158 its all relative 2024 price comparisons Central west Java v AUS Coffee instant .05 - 17 cents v .60 cents. 600ml bottle water .40 cents v $2.80. Smokes $3.30 (expensive brand) as low as $1.80 v $31.00 Electricity pay as you go from $25 per month. Water home in most cases free. Housing rental from $50 per month to $100 basic average. 9 person meal including 9 drinks $20 AUS. Fuel from $1.10 91 to $1.35 for 95oct. Small commercial rental, small business $100 per month. Average basic income $400 per month. Fill a shopping trolly at a supermarket $40-$100 overflowing. Public transport 15 cents to 35 cents. Way of life, care free do as you want, little to no restrictions, Crime, very low but you can find it it if you want. Alcohol and drugs heavily frowned upon (suits me) but its around

[@IanVerrier-f4s]

Fed up with lies from politicians. When are they going to be held accountable?

[@adamsmith85]

Bowen couldn't even stop the boats, now he thinks he can save the planet

[@davepowelldrumz]

career politicians are protected.

[@indiathylane2158]

You don't know if he did or not, because the Libs had banned media reporting on it.

[@paulwilson7622]

Im5 looking forward to hearing if Bowen gets cooked in his taxpayer funded EV. I hope his family are not crash dummies with him!

[@DarkJeffau]

Wait till the weather gets real cold and watch the EVs fail. You are better off with petrol/EV for when the EV side fails.

[@IngloriousGlueBombs]

We're better off with a free market system that looks after itself and values and maintains personal choice without restriction.

[@allenjenkins7947]

It's not the cold weather that you really need to worry about in this country. How about driving on a 35⁰+ day and trying to run an air conditioner? Modern vehicles have way too much glass to be driveable without a/c on any but the mildest days. Also, at what outside temperature are the batteries likely to go into thermal runaway? The probability may be low but it's certainly not zero.

[@metricstormtrooper]

​@@allenjenkins7947der vehicles have far less glass than sixties and seventies vehicles sunshine.

[@ianbennett3941]

Early election please

[@davepowelldrumz]

wont do anything, sheep are still deep in the paddock grazing.

[@ShaneMcGrath.]

No good, Most don't understand where their vote is actually going. Preferential voting system needs to be scrapped.

[@60_thou]

Oh yes, bowan the special mango....

[@ohasis8331]

He is like a discarded half sucked mango.

[@charmainehartmann5538]

Bababahahahababahahabahahaha, love it, that the best comment I have read in ages.

[@seanraynor5547]

You the man Paul!!! Thank you for calling out their BS🤘

[@PaulSmith-ss6zm]

VOTE LABOR OUT!!

[@PeterC245]

Who were the Dumb Plebs that voted these criminal clowns in , ?

[@BigBopper-zm1kf]

Albo is a LIAR, Bowen is a LIAR, Wong is a LIAR. Need I go on 😢

[@nicosian9878]

Bowen's ego is writing cheques the Australian taxpayer's can't cash.

[@riffcaster]

And Bowen is personally writing cheques that his own ass can't cash. The retard is going down on a social level. We'll read about his suicide in his o'bitch'uary.

[@derekmoore2779]

Australia is such a huge country to have an EV vehicle, it,s not feasible , pull a caravan JOKE

[@davepowelldrumz]

they're perfect for a 15 minute city.

[@trentbaker8830]

I use about 50k a year just on diesel fuel for one car for work what a joke this country has become if trump gets in I might just move to the USA

[@mrkanangra]

Good mate, if you support Trump and hate it here, then eff off to your MAGA cult hero.

[@Bushranger1865]

Me too... but not a demokkkrat state!

[@ce244]

Remember in 2014 when diesel was spruiked as being "cleaner" and "cheaper", and we all bought diesel cars...then the diesel price shot up and the car value sank like a brick.

[@jasonstewart6192]

Once/if it becomes that you haven't an option they'll charge you more for electricity to charge yr car. It's always a con.

[@Peter-p5u8t]

Does Chris Bowen know how much it costs to actually manufacture an electric vehicle?

[@indiathylane2158]

Perhaps looking at the price sticker would give anyone a fair idea?

[@Peter-p5u8t]

Can he add up numbers?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣or, if not him, how about his ministerial advisers ( otherwise known as "zinger-seekers")🎉😅😂

[@mariannejacobson7232]

Paul Murry you are superb I just hope more people listen to you

[@GaryHuntington-m3p]

Thankyou Paul , you hit the nail on the head . Excellent journalism , telling the truth . 👍