Skyrim Civil War: 3rd option

[@Newvamp]

ATTENTION: Those of you who feel down that I have killed Paarthurnax, I have made a new video, which I recommend checking out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpvEo6F5ftRsack

[@Jesusluvesu]

U still play Skyrim?

[@Newvamp]

@@Jesusluvesu Yes

[@Jesusluvesu]

@@Newvamp nice what level r u ?

[@Newvamp]

@@Jesusluvesu 49 for this playthrough

[@Jesusluvesu]

@@Newvamp oh cool

[@noodleresidue]

"You're willing to sacrifice thousands" lol you mean the twelve soldiers you attack the cities with?

[@aethalred6446]

synonomy 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@nikonwhitesassistant7146]

synonomy 😂😂😂😂😂

[@josiahnieman4803]

Nikon Whites Assistant lmfao so true... I guess each soldier fights with the strength of a thousand men lol

[@josiahnieman4803]

synonomy freed a stormcloak, gave him a Daedric Great sword I found and didn't need, first thing he said, First imperial I see is dead... Me, *looks at weapon* Mate the first 100 imperials you see are dead with thing on your back 😂😂😂

[@steven_cfc7844]

This made laugh so hard 😂😂😂

[@LordUzaki]

Tulius: "I want to know what you think we should trade Markharth for Dragonborn." DragonBorn: "Riften seems like a good idea." Tulius: "I agree, there are several advantages to acquiring Riften." Ulfric: "Ok then, the deal is settled." Tulius: "You have betrayed me Dragonborn, this is a travesty!" What?

[@Vermbraunt]

I know it is such a funny response

[@randomfactsthatdontmatter3466]

@@Vermbraunt it gives me flashbacks to Oblivion

[@dawidpotega882]

Because Tulius found out that you just sold him Riften the den of thieves and degeneratesXD

[@theresnothinghereatall]

If you choose the other option, Tulius is like: "No, Riften is better"

[@silversnail1413]

I honestly think that Tullius is going senile. Why would the Empire put a fool like this in charge of the war effort?

[@hunterrichards5356]

Is there a "fuck all your factions" faction where the dragon born becomes high king and public execution is changed from beheading to being eaten by parthanaux

[@LoreChaplain]

oh, I wish there was that choice

[@kaariaspencer7967]

it's the best choice

[@backwoodsthugger3962]

becoming the most powerful warrior in tamriel

[@lewd2851]

Senile Scribbles reference?

[@94oddy]

Some of these dirty and disgusting i dont parthanaux would want that duty and some people might have chose to kill him not knowing they dont have too

[@PapagenoDispo]

everyone: **arguing** dragonborn: (man... i'd rather be listening to nirnroot chiming for ten hours)

[@austinstills7348]

I can agree to that

[@bitty29]

If I was in the game I would just pull out an enchanted dagger and say if everyone doesn't shut the fuck up and do what I say I will kill all of you except the grey beards

[@itsTeeRev]

New Mr. Beast video confirmed? Lol

[@diacriticsrue260]

Scythela I DEFLECTED YOUR EMERALD SPLASH

[@iluvyurbles]

Dragonborn died of boredom

[@MuttonTheDragon]

How hard would it have been to just have an option to say, "See this dagger? The blood on it is the blood of the late Emperor of Tamriel. That's right, I'm the listener of the Dark Brotherhood, the Archmage of Winterhold, The Harbinger of the Companions, the Guildmaster of Thieves, Lord of Volkihar's Court, and to top it all off, the last dragonborn. If any of you idiots get any bright ideas to attack Whiterun until we've taken care of this entire dragon situation, I'm killing EVERYONE AT THIS TABLE THAT ISN'T A GREYBEARD."

[@tamnickyle]

....Okay

[@joshua9480]

The Mutton Chop Gamer calm the fuck down

[@jaxmoreno9282]

And you're also a puppet that runs around doing other people's dirty work.

[@ValkRota]

my reaction as well and I would of said I'll also call dragons to all the capitals

[@Hufflepuffzd96]

The Mutton Chop Gamer nice. That be easy

[@grantharrison1715]

I hated that deal with the Blades. "Ok the leader of the grey beards is a dragon go kill it". "Why?" "Because it's a dragon" "A good dragon that without the world would have been destroyed" "But, hear me out. It's a dragon" "There's no reason to kill it" "Well god you're so selfish. Dont talk to me until you killed it".

[@apuffin9545]

"But I'm Dragonborn and you're a Blade, you're meant to obey my command, you can't tell me what to do." "...yeah, but he's a dragon and you should totally kill him anyway, btw we're not friends anymore, soz lol, get out of my temple."

[@dylanfenwick7112]

Idk if this is nerdy or nah, but they asked u to kill Parthunaax because he was a general in the dragon wars and killed many Nords, and u know, they want him to pay for his crimes

[@cryogenicwaif4688]

ikr

[@grantharrison1715]

Dylan Fenwick "What is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?". Nothing can wash away the past, hell how many time did you kill Braith? He is a good being now and thats all that should matter.

[@AShadyCharacter]

Luckily, there's mods that fix that (through dialogue that was already in the game, just not utilized, so you don't have to worry about it sounding terrible)

[@jarret45]

I see you killed Paarthurnax. Pray we don't cross paths.

[@94oddy]

Lol he probably didnt know he had another option

[@Newvamp]

Oh my. Is that a threat?

[@jarret45]

@105781969126919175328 It's a suggestion. If you have a death wish, feel free to ignore.

[@121tut]

aye pray indeed.

[@LosEagle]

If blades weren't assholes I literally couldn't imagine any reason to kill him. There are only downsides of being sad when he dies.

[@asiafranklin9739]

Delphine: We were the ones who put the Dragonborn on this path Me: Ummmm that was Jarl Balgruuf without him the Dragonborn wouldn’t have learned the word from Bleak Falls Barrow, absorbed a dragon soul, and get summoned by the Greybeards to go to High Hrothgar. You just interfered by taking the horn just to restore the blades

[@nicksalehi97]

Once again Delphine is trying to make it seem as the Blades matter...Wish i could just kill her. The old man is cool tho.

[@Balenboggers]

@# dontbebunkie gods bless that Whiterun guard

[@aidanmckuen1252]

Actually that random whiterun guard sets him on the path

[@grantwalter2243]

Every player: “wow this game is cool. Delphine is a good character” Delphine: “kill parthax” Every player: “iVe aLwAyS hAtEd dElPhInE”

[@alphaapx1013]

@@grantwalter2243 those who threaten Parthurnax will be eternally banished by the Dragonborn and keep their souls trapped inside the Soul Cairn

[@petesperandio]

I'd rather download a mod that allows the Dragonborn to form a third faction that is purely dedicated to fighting the Thalmor.

[@wilhelmwilhelmsen7520]

I agree i dont like the stormcloacks or the imperials.

[@nousername2942]

I'd rather join the Thalmor

[@nousername2942]

Joe Wyeth Are you mad because the Thalmor are the only people that could hold off an Akaviri invasion, and are the most technologically advanced over everyone in Tamriel? :^)

[@joewyeth8963]

+Jacob Sensabaugh they are slimy cunts

[@AyleidCraft]

+Jacob Sensabaugh dude you're ugly as shit

[@sealstorm1935]

I am at level 50 and I still haven't chosen a side for the civil war. I wish we could fight the real threat (The Aldmeri Dominion).

[@jesse324able1]

***** Stormcloaks would let the empire have skyrim if the empire would have secretly told any important jarl that they intend on declaring war on the thalmor again. Alas the empire feels it is too important to fill anyone in on anything,

[@TheMister3]

I used console commands and ranked myself up to 500. That is the biggest mistake ever made, although you do get great loot!

[@dzh1239]

You do realize that the Imperials are planning on attacking the Aldmeri Dominion right? They actually would have done it already if it weren't for the civil war. Plus if the Imperials win the Stormcloaks should be happy because they will allow Talos worship back in the empire because the Thalmor will no longer control the empire. Plus seceding from the empire created by the man you worship is a shitty way to honor him

[@timothygoodner2436]

Ronan Slevin They're not bad.

[@timothygoodner2436]

***** The Thalmor have their own way of life and felt that the Nords threatened it and thus acted rashly, this doesn't make them bad.

[@ijustworkhere1008]

Factors that make loading times in Skyrim slower: 5%: in-game objects and NPCs 5%: the massive open world 90%: Ulfric's ego

[@apansexualunicorn8204]

XD

[@joseffliegl4167]

U mean the empires ego

[@d.gerstmann4930]

100% mudcrabs

[@guspicci7465]

Rudol Von Stroheim 😂

[@rivaraptor4277]

As seen on this video its Delphines ego

[@royalhero4608]

Lol the irony of Maven becoming the Jarl of Riften, she controls the place anyway

[@kosmas173]

She even says that herself if she becomes the jarl.

[@gin.gefilms]

In my high king mod I sent Maven to prison (she just annoyed me) and let Laila Law Giver stay Jarl

[@doryaman]

@@gin.gefilms Wtf I never knew that mod. After reading the description, it seems to be quite game breaking (?).

[@gin.gefilms]

@@doryaman not if you have the immersive edition. Theres 2 versions. Immersive adds no new locations. Your castle is Blue Reach rather than a new castle

[@doryaman]

@@gin.gefilms No, I'm talking about killable NPCs. If there were a vampire attack or something and an important NPC got killed without my knowing, I'd be screwed.

[@nicholasmorgan7609]

I never liked really liked Delphine. You only get involved with her because she wants to use you. I understand Paarthunax isn't perfect but I'm not gonna kill Paarthunax for her. I like that someone made a mod to make HER listen to you if you tell her no.

[@chrisgerrard9025]

Nicholas Morgan how can u choose not to kill parthanax?

[@nicholasmorgan7609]

Chris Swagster It's simple. Just don't kill Paarthunax. You won't be welcome in the Blades Temple anymore, but you'll have your principles. With a specific mod though, you can make it very clear to you that you won't kill Paarthunax and you can make her listen. You basically shout her into submitting to YOUR will, making it clear you will not be the Blades' pawn.

[@chrisgerrard9025]

Nicholas Morgan can u do that quest with no mod? N is that mod available on ps4?

[@nicholasmorgan7609]

Chris Swagster There is no quest. With the mod, when she tells you to kill Paarthunax, you tell her no and you keep telling her until you make it emphatically clear with the power of the voice the Blades are supposed to serve the dragonborn and they'd best god damn listen. I don't know if it is available for the PS4. You could try looking it up.

[@chrisgerrard9025]

Nicholas Morgan k I'll try later. Tnxs dude

[@pullupthen5073]

So here is how I would have handled it. "Look guys, I'm the Dragonborn, champion of all the Deadric princes, Archmage of the College of Winterhold, Listener of the Dark Brotherhood, Vampire Slayer, Harbinger of the Companions, a Werewolf, leader of the Thieves Guild, a Nightingale, and I'm wearing the bones of a dead dragon as armor. So stop fighting for a few days will I save the universe or I'll kill all of you right now. Any questions?"

[@DapperPeregrinus]

Kill us like how ulfric killed the high King?

[@2nd_ntr]

American Bagel this is underrated

[@matthewcawley1462]

Brandon Standifer you forgot to add the unburned and mother of dragons

[@Griede26]

you forgot the bit about being an ally to almost all of the orcs....

[@bleedingbanshe13]

If only that were an option for dialogue.

[@CBJames2149]

I wish that there was a neutrality questline in which the Dragonborn bitchslaps both sides of the conflict and then moves on to create a faction to fight the Thalmor. Or something along those lines.

[@Anmatgreen]

Yeah. A bitchslap will help them.

[@hailsatan4526]

C.B James if you would start to figth thalmor and bitch slapped imperials before, it's stormcloacks and thalmor vs you

[@davidvillarrius6313]

Maybe a new mod will come along.

[@neru_pehut]

Or expand the Blades massivley to sabotage Thalmor operations.

[@grimmtroupemaster8849]

Paarthurnax army B)

[@zhengwenyu1587]

Wish there were more options for Civil War: 1. United both and fight the Thalmor 2. Fight both Imperial and Stormcloak, taking Skyrim for your own. (similar to Fallout NV Yes Man faction)

[@playlistman3530]

Zheng Wen Yu Mirrak: are you challenging me?

[@TheHarleyEvans]

option 1 is impossible, because the emprie spreads across multiple countries. not just skyrim, and the aldmeri dominion handed the empire their ass

[@zhengwenyu1587]

boxlet Jarl Ballin ftw

[@itsamegaming9503]

@Ronen Salathe made me lol. Good one.

[@itsamegaming9503]

5. Don't care at all, just run around and Fus ro da some people

[@celticpride859]

What should have happend, Dragonborn-"I am the Thane of Haafinger, Thane of Whiterun, Thane of Falkreath, Thane of Riften, Thane of the Reach, Thane of the Pale, Thane of Winterhold, Thane of Hjaalmarch, Harbinger of the Companions, Arch-mage of the College of Winterhold, Listener of the Dark Brotherhood, Guild-master of the Thieves Guild, Member of the Bards College, Dragonslayer of the Blades, Vampireslayer of the Dawnguard, Savior of Solstheim, Champion of the Nine Divines and Champion of sixteen Daedric Princes, Friend to Orcs, Honorary Member of the Moth Priests, Dwemer Expert, Bounty Hunter, Treasure Finder and master of the Thu'um,........I AM THE DRAGONBORN!!! YOU ALL WILL BEND THE KNEE OR DIE BY FIRE!!!!

[@lordofexaggeration6881]

Exactly

[@franciscolopez3464]

THANK YOU 😭😂💀👍👏

[@quahmeilrobinson7953]

So trueeeeeee

[@azzkiker9033]

Sounds a bit like Miraak

[@richdoe48]

Calm down danaerys, we get it. Ya got alot of titles

[@joshuap.3048]

There needs to be a third faction you lead and you take the stormclocks and imperials under you as you become the high king and fight the thalmor.

[@pantyhatgirl7568]

That would be the best option as you could ally with cyrodill and hammerfell and present a United front to wipe out the thalmor, essentially creating the Empire but better

[@ZachofPotatoes732]

I didn’t really like the empire but the Thalmor kinda sealed the deal on who’s side I was gonna be on. I did sympathize with the kings wife though. She shoulda been queen

[@FecalMatador]

Zach of Cornholio I only sided with the Empire so I could kill Ulfric. I wish I could kill Tullius too without using console commands :(

[@ZachofPotatoes732]

Al Phuckya I actually read a letter that said the Thalmor are secretly allied with Ulfric. They want him to win cause they’ll be easier to fight than the empire. So in the long run the empire is the better choice

[@aguynamedatidade]

@@ZachofPotatoes732 Actually, Ulfric defeated Torygg in fair combat, in line with Skyrim's customs and laws. He used his Thu'um in the battle, but he won nonetheless.

[@priscillaemerald987]

LOL Wow. Ulfric Stormcloak actually called Elenwen a "Thalmor bitch".

[@JemRau]

Because Altmers look like shit.

[@ShadowCoH316]

Jem Rau they seriously do. They look dead!

[@priscillaemerald987]

ShadowCoH316 Well I have mine modded, so they look hawt, so sucks to be you. Yes, I agreed that the default model for females are... woof.

[@russianspy5307]

They look like big skinny bannannas

[@aether5208]

Priscilla Maxwell well she is

[@IAmTheStig32]

When you kick Elenwen out of the negotiations 😊👌

[@Yyywywhwhhwhwhhwhwhu]

J. Jonah Jameson fuck that... that... Thalmor bitch!

[@ackthualyimsmarterthanyou7844]

Dovahkiin elenwen needs to tell me where she gets such a professional paint job!

[@phantomflames7486]

420 likes. Another like and I don’t break Ulfric’s neck

[@aaronhenderson670]

Get off my table pointy ears. real humanity hours, not elf hours

[@artimuos903]

I just keep her to annoy Ulfric.

[@TheParanormalist0601]

I want Bathesda to create a game where the main protagonist can actually work hard to create an army by earning the friendship and loyalty of followers and companions to create a powerful army to take on the foe, and actually feel rewarded. One thing I REALLY despise from Skyrim is even though you are the Legate of the Empire, a commanding officer greets you with the common, "Citizen." or "No lollygaggin." DUDE! I am your BOSS! I should be telling YOU that! Seriously, at least Oblivion feels rewarding. Bathesda has really only gotten worse with the quests for leadership stuff because even though you're the leader, you still get treated like an errand boy. Ugh. That applies for Skyrim and Fallout.

[@daman1209]

Check out a game called Mount & Blade Warband. The graphics aren't next-gen but it is exactly what you are asking for as has far more options that skyrim. Only catch is it has a bit more of a sand box feel, there isn't really a main quest but a lot of small missions.

[@Horrorbilgee]

*fallout new vegas*

[@orangutank626]

Let me guess someone stole your sweetroll....

[@orangutank626]

Dont try to sweet talk me like one of those damn shopkeepers

[@orangutank626]

hey conjurer how about conjurer me a warm bed?

[@metalkiwis]

It was very disappointing to not be able to wield your power at this point and tell them all that you, The Dragonborn now rule ALL the land.

[@d3adl1mbs66]

metalkiwis I would be like "all right guys, I lead the thieves guild, I'm a nightingale, harbinger of the companions, werewolf, archmage, champion of all the daedric lords, thane of all the holds, and not to mention I can kill you just by yelling, give me all the land, or I'll just take it from you right now."

[@walnzell9328]

Also. If it weren't for the Oblivion Crisis, I'd be in line to be Emperor!

[@eheeiudjjrnrrb3458]

Amela Kotton You forgot about being the listener.

[@blackice8043]

I am the Harbinger of the Companions, the Listener of the Dark Brotherhood, the Archmage of Winterhold, the Guildmaster of the Thieves' Guild, the Jarl of every hold, the friend to the Skaal, a member of House Telvanni, a friend to counselor Morvayn, the destroyer of Miraak and his priests, champion of the daedra, defeater of Alduin and his priests, officer of the Stormcloaks, killer of Madanach, the man who killed the Emperor of Tamriel, and the Lord of Castle Volkihar! Bow before me, Tamriel! Bow before Black Adam of Whitby!!!

[@falseking9159]

I used to be an adventurer like you then I took an arrow to the knee

[@jimmyshizzler7658]

Can someone start a crowdfunding for a 3rd DLC: High King Dragonborn

[@warmike]

There a mod like this, you need like 10k gold and 40 people to sign your petition

[@DigitalAlexN]

I would pay $500 for this dlc

[@honeyandlavender_]

When I first ever started playing this game I thought the Dragonborn was gonna become high king lol.

[@trixx8865]

Nice

[@abstractlizard9377]

You mean 4th dlc?

[@KarmasAB123]

Ulfric: "I'm only here to talk about the dragons; nothing else!" Ulfric ten seconds later: "Gimme land!"

[@logeyperogi1805]

I hated both sides as to whereas I never joined either of them, I just gave both sides a big middle finger

[@EvilSantaTheTrue]

@@logeyperogi1805 yea

[@BlackFang2]

Tullius: Not Greedy Fights for a terrible cause. Ulfric: Greedy Fights for a good cause. Hmmm...

[@boxdropp]

@@BlackFang2 both are good causes,the Empire has more chances of beating the Thalmor with the Help of Skyrim

[@sirspongadoodle]

@@BlackFang2 terrible cause being stopping the radical thalmor to claim all of Skyrim?? Wow not letting thousands die is such a bad cause am I right?

[@Leodhais]

WARNING: The average IQ of the comment section decreases as you scroll down. Proceed with caution.

[@The_Gamers_Gamer]

Leodhais Ha funny considering this is pretty far down...

[@councilfraun9300]

I️ should’ve heeded your warning

[@Alphapkmn]

Ulfric/Tullius: “Let’s let the Dragonborn decide” Dragonborn: passed out an hour ago, sleeping like a log cuz they were exploring a Dwemer ruin ALL NIGHT

[@saladasagrada6722]

Lmao

[@logeyperogi1805]

Ulfric/Tullius: Let’s let the Dragonborn decide Dragonborn: Oh, so you’re finally done arguing? You guys have finally decided to shut up?! YOU GUYS HAVE FINALLY MADE A DECISION ON WHAT WE SHOULD DO?! I THINK I HAVE THE BEST SOLUTION, I AM DRAGONBORN, I CAN SHOUT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU INTO PIECES, I LEAD EVERY INFLUENTIAL GROUP IN THIS GODFORSAKEN LAND, FROM THE HIGHLY RESPECTED AND HONOURABLE COMPANIONS TO THE VILE AND MURDEROUS DARK BROTHERHOOD, I HAVE OUTSMARTED SEVERAL OF YOU ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, I HAVE MORE RIGHTS TO ENTER SOVNGARDE THAN ANY OF YOU, I AM THE CHAMPION OF SO MANY DAEDRIC PRINCES, I SLAY DRAGONS BECAUSE I CAN, SO YOU KNOW WHAT MY SOLUTION IS?! Ulfric and Tullius: Um…what? Dragonborn: You guys are gonna put your little fighting on hold while I deal with Alduin, then, when I have Alduin’s head MOUNTED ON MY WALL, I will claim the throne as HIGH KING OF SKYRIM, and force BOTH sides of this conflict to serve me, REGARDLESS OF MY OPINION ON THE ALDMERI DOMINION, and if anyone has a complaint, they can take it up with my housecarl Lydia, who will happily introduce you to the dangerous end of a BROADSWORD!!! ARE WE CLEAR?! Everyone:……yes

[@Alphapkmn]

@@logeyperogi1805 Dragonborn, some time later: Alright. I’ll admit that… wasn’t my proudest moment. But in my defense, I was exhausted and I hate pointless arguing.

[@sirspongadoodle]

@@Alphapkmn nothing says pointless arguing like trying to save thousands.

[@Alphapkmn]

@@sirspongadoodle indeed

[@tylerjaynes822]

I usually save Paathurnax, then blast Esbern and Delphine off the side of the mountain

[@charleswanous]

Tyler Jaynes yes I agree I hate those pieces of shit

[@fazerremix]

thats gay

[@tylerjaynes822]

Sup3rTrunks Your mom's gay

[@fazerremix]

probably

[@goldenhedgehog9]

Sup3rTrunks I liked how you just accepted it, not many people do that.

[@GameShorts484]

Fun Fact: After the meeting, they will descend the 4000-step ladder and walk alone until solitude.

[@PaulKMF1]

One way up and one way down. Any sensible tactician would leave first and set up an ambush.

[@henrymcbark7337]

@@PaulKMF1 You could argue that if the dragon born hadn't choice a side and wanted peace. The one side that does set up an ambush may become the target of the dragonborn as they are now a hindering factor. I just think both sides realize pleasing the dragon born is worth more the trying to ambush the leaders of the other faction.

[@Davelolol1Yt]

Wish that troll was still there.

[@Cgar776]

@@Davelolol1Yt in one of my playthroughs i avoided it and then got to watch elesif have a punch on with it

[@Zer0fuks]

7000*

[@josefmilly]

14:08 Almost jumped off my seat Thought everyone suddenly stood up and started chanting loudly

[@KellingtonDorkswafer]

I'm late to this party but I want to see this as a mod. For example- I could be fighting at Fort Amol during the Civil War questline- then suddenly both armies start spinning and chanting randomly before resuming the fight.

[@cearologytv1193]

ALL TOGETHER NOW! ULFRIC AND GALMORE GET IN HERE ITS TIME!

[@FoxariumForever]

LMAO

[@Hollyclown]

4th option. Gather the leaders in one place for "negotiations." If you catch my drift.

[@k1ng_BL0C]

holly clown soooo.......orgy, mass slaughter, orgy then mass slaughter, or mass slaughter then orgy if your into that sort of thing.

[@Gay_Priest]

mR. iNSANITY my necromancer high elf is into that sort of thing

[@goldenhedgehog9]

holly clown I assume you mean capture them and kill one of them and then use nemeria's ring to eat the body as the others watch. Then you make them play Rock Paper Scissors and have the loser be the next to die. Am I right?

[@Gay_Priest]

goldenhedgehog9 nope

[@goldenhedgehog9]

***** But eating them is fun, and good for you. Think of the benefits, you can kill them, eat them, and then raise them from the dead. I though a necromancer would like that.

[@CarolineAnn3]

some people: wait there's a 3rd option!? others: people didn't know? me: WAIT THERE WERE 2 OTHER OPTIONS!?

[@ttaayylloorrmmtt]

Caroline Ann haha seriously, I got this on my first play through. Just figured everybody did

[@TheMoonRover]

The three options are: 1) Win the Civil War for the Imperials. 2) Win the Civil War for the Stormcloaks. 3) This quest which results in a *temporary* truce which lasts until you defeat Alduin. You can then go and do the Civil War after that if you want.

[@mikethemilkman5246]

TheMoonRover I've been scrolling through the comments to find out how this is a third option because it's the only one I ever got. I understand now, thanks to you.

[@tommyshommy]

Mike the Milkman yeah same wtf I have played through so many times and have only gotten the truce

[@basenightx1464]

Yeah, you can crusade the shit out of skyrim in the other two

[@LeviathanSpeaks1469]

Tullius: “Riften for Markarth sounds like a fair deal” Also Tullius: “You disappoint me, Dragonborn”

[@schastye8899]

Even more ironic, the deal is stupid for the Stormcloaks; Markarth would be surrounded by Imperial land, cutting of Stormcloak supply to the city. Meanwhile Riften opens a route to Cyrodiil.

[@LeviathanSpeaks1469]

@@schastye8899 Exactly. Ulfric would have had the same opportunity Lee had (albeit, he lost the battle anyway so nothing came of it) to seize the capital during the Civil War (Gettysburg).

[@martiananomaly]

He was always slow in the head and senile unlike Ulfric

[@MONTR65]

@@martiananomaly that's why he captured and almost killed ulfric.

[@martiananomaly]

@@MONTR65 having the whole empire behind him surely helped...

[@screech9684]

Dragonborn: *eating sweetrolls* Parthanax: "why is there so much conflict?" Dragonborn:"oh well that guy is like me and can shout and he used it on the other guy that had power but the imperials think that's unfair and the nords say it is." Parthanax:"shouldn't they like fear the guy who can shout but isn't a dragonborn?" Dragonborn: "this is why I'm here, let's just have people that can shout and dragons rule, Fuck everyone else. Except snow elves. I like the snow elves" Parthanax:"seems legit"

[@miciso666]

Heather Harp everyone can shout it just takes a long while.

[@paulasheets113]

This comment seems legit lol

[@christopherpeterson3491]

Put the falmer in charge and enslave the nords

[@maverickdarkrath4780]

Honestly I wish we just had these chill talks with him

[@mattpask5594]

I heard the Snow Elves basically were the ones that caused their own death.

[@gabrielkendrick3217]

YOU KILLED PARTHUUNAX YOU MONSTER!!!!!!!!!

[@Newvamp]

His soul was delicious.

[@gabrielkendrick3217]

how dare you, murderer, slave to the blades, puppet of sithis, ?!@#-head

[@gabrielkendrick3217]

Son Of Satin

[@Newvamp]

Gabriel Kendrick Nothing is stronger than Sithis.

[@gabrielkendrick3217]

But sithis didn't want him dead, it was the blades who worship akatosh

[@williamedward1666]

Personally, I'd like to be able to make Balgruuf king.

[@jackbaker4190]

William Edward ballin balgruuf the true high king of skyrim

[@lucaswinsor4469]

Balgruuf is a good option, but personally, I'd prefer Jarl Ravencrone, from Morthal. She's wise, tolerant, kind, and she can see the future or something (not sure about that last part, the content of her visions was never really discussed).

[@yaqubnecrobeefer7922]

I would go with Jarl Brunwulf Free-Winter of Imperial Windhelm. He's tolerant, a strategist, and is accepting of all races of the Empire.

[@williamedward1666]

Lucas Winsor Not sure that'd be a very good idea... her policies kinda left Morthal the poorest place in Skyrim.

[@jackbaker4190]

Jacob Norman ALL HAIL ULFRIC THE TRUE HIGH KING OF SKYRIM

[@guldarheel1204]

I never understood why they had to swap cities to begin with. Makes no sense at all. Just don't attack Whiterun during this period of time. Why is that so hard and what the hell does it have to do with swapping other cities?

[@dustingideon5719]

Ulfric wanted Markarth because he had saved that town from Forsworn. As a reward he was promised free worship of Talos there. The Jarl agreed but didn't think the Thalmor would find out (since that promise violates the White-Gold Concordat), but they found out and he had to go back on his word. If they let Ulfric worship there anyway the Thalmor would attack Markarth.

[@Seth-uo4zn]

@@dustingideon5719 Ulfric wanted Markarth because it was impossible for him to conquer, even Tullius says that

[@dustingideon5719]

@@Seth-uo4zn You have been drinking too much mead he already conquered it from the Forsworn. (Markarth Incident) It was his by deed and he only wanted what was promised to him.

[@Seth-uo4zn]

@@dustingideon5719 Because he had trained soldiers and the forsworn are chaotic wild brutes which don't use strategy, and also every single citizen was forced to draw a blade against the forsworn or they would be executed (mentioned in a book). General Tullius is a strategist and probably a military genius and he likely has higher numbers (lore-wise) so he's going to exploit the shit out of the city's strategical advantage. I also didn't hear Ulfric say Tullius is talking shit when he told him he wants the city because he can't conquer it

[@baltonus1120]

Sonny lmfao, man the one’s who own the city at everything are the Silver Blood which also support Ulfric in the end, they actually want SC over Imperials since the Jarl of Markarth is stupid as hell

[@Christopher-eq1rn]

You killed parthanaax? You monster

[@puppy3908]

I could never bring myself to do it.

[@KillikisTheHungerer]

Except that he wouldn't be able to because of this one, small, person hailed as "Dragonborn". Also, he doesn't know the Thu'um that can raise dragons from the dead like Alduin does, so once dead the dragons will stay that way until Alduin returns again. Parthanaax may try his best to rule but he'll always be third best.

[@maherkalam878]

Devan Weathers How can you tell

[@Christopher-eq1rn]

Conversation between the blades and greybeards. "I know what path you set him on, and now parthanaax's wisdom is lost to us"

[@flashdalsu9792]

i would much rather kill delphine

[@JohnDoe-or3cl]

Wish you could just take skyrim for yourself :(

[@FyreStone]

I think there is a mod that does this, but no idea when or if it will be added to consoles from pc

[@MrPepsicola123]

I dont fucking know why you cant. you're the goddamn dragonborn, the next in line for the throne yet you get bullied and shoved around like a bitch on both sides.

[@eveandaedrul]

John Doe There is a mod like that :D It's called High King of Skyrim. You also get to kill the children in the mod.

[@shr00mhead]

Does it add Yes Man?

[@caramel7050]

Wouldn't work out for long.

[@yiansvaldes8797]

i wish the dragonborn stood up shouted and said "Im the fucking dragonborn desciple of the daedra king of thieves master of assassins slayer of dragons you will all bow down to me or i swear by ysmmir ill rip the skys apart".

[@jonwalsh3580]

Yians Valdes don't forget about all the other deadra.

[@jonwalsh3580]

Yians Valdes also archnage of winter hold.

[@yiansvaldes8797]

Jon Walsh right forgot too many things in skyrim its awesome

[@AssassinDwarf]

Deadly serious if I had my way, I'd get both Ulfric and Tullius in the same room and I'd let them know exactly what was gonna happen. And what's gonna happen is I'ma kill Ulfric then I'ma kill Tullius, Then I the Dovahkiin will be High King of skyrim with my dragon army with Paarthurnax and Odahviing as my two generals. *Pah yein faal Dovahkiin! Pah yein ok dovah lahvu!*

[@lycxn7539]

Some Guy On KZbin nah Paarthurnax and Durnehviir

[@tantalizintoast2927]

What about the ‘Screw you all I’m the Dragonborn’ option? If only that were an option

[@planexshifter]

There should be a threat option. "You do as I say and you MAY live to fight your petty war."

[@thetheory6159]

Worst part is that the Dragonborn can scale infinitely. Your character is essentially god. That is legitimately the choice they have, obey or die. Your character COULD just lay waste to the sunset isles single handedly, once all quests and dlcs have been completed. You're a living god, they would need heavy artillery to even scratch you, and victory is basically hopeless.

[@kozmatheclown]

"I can speedrun wiping out all 9 holds. You guy's wanna continue fighting?"

[@StilvurBee]

"Did you come here just to say speeches, or can we get down to business?" *s a v a g e*

[@cactusowo1835]

Ulfric: 😤

[@kevinnk5584]

Ulfric says that if you side with the Stormcloaks

[@logeyperogi1805]

As soon as Ulfric began talking I just put down my controller and sighed before screaming into a pillow and waiting for Ulfric to SHUT THE FUCK UP When Arngeir said “If we have to negotiate the terms of the negotiations we will never get anywhere” I very loudly screamed “YES, THANK YOU ARNGEIR”

[@idkanymore1005]

They never seem to realize that the dragon born could just ahout and kill everyone of them.

[@glowhoo9226]

Not all of them. Arngeir would fuck you up. He’s been training a lot longer than you

[@arun7998]

@@glowhoo9226 why would anyone want to kill the greybrards?

[@1kvolt1978]

@@glowhoo9226 He was training in shouts while Dragonborn was training in Sneaking. ;) Good luck to Arngeir trying to fuck up sneaky backstabbing x16 damage of doubleenchanted overblacksmithed dragonbone or daedric dagger covered with stupidly OP poison. :)

[@ShadowLynx777]

@@glowhoo9226 You can learn shouts they've never even imagined of having access to. Bend will, summing dragons, and other abilities only a dovahkiin can use. Not saying the fight wouldn't be epic, but you could stomp them like nothing if you really wanted to

[@philipgood5041]

@@glowhoo9226 we aren't counting him.

[@MarcusPapa113]

Fcking jump scared me holy shit 14:04

[@kal2600]

Lol me too

[@zacofalltrades11]

Marcus Papa everyone: *GETS UP AND SPINS*

[@TheWanderer_99]

Every damn time

[@soulplexis]

Lol

[@TheLateMrBones]

Make it your phone’s alarm sound.

[@AfaqueAhmed_]

Tullius :- Oh my , Dragonborn . Riften is a good idea . Ulfric :- So its done . Tullius :- You disappoint me dragonborn .

[@HickoryDickory86]

My hypothetical "third option" is: 1) Destroy the Stormcloak rebellion. 2) Hand the Reach over to the native Reachmen, granting them independence while, at the same time, making the Reach a new province of the Empire, and reinstate Madanach as its rightful king. 3) Upon the Imperial victory in the Rift, install Mjoll the Lioness as Jarl and imprison Maven Blackbriar for murder, corruption, and crimes against humanity. 4) Call a Moot of the Jarls who are now loyal to the Dragonborn to elect him/her as the new High King/Queen of Skyrim. 5) Tell Delphine and Esbern to shove their opinions up their ass or else GTFO! They are Blades and they serve the Dragonborn, not the other way around. 6) Recruit new Blades members, but develop a new system where they combine their Blades training with training at High Hrothgar in the Way of the Voice under Paarthurnax and the Grey Beards. Effectively creating an entirely new order. But alas, the game supposedly filled with choices of earth-shattering significance, offered nothing of the sort. Just linear, on-track quests that make no real difference.

[@HickoryDickory86]

DragonLord MC That's fine. But if you support the Stormcloak cause, then you ought also to support the Forsworn cause. They are the natives of the Reach and fighting for their independence, just as the Stormcloaks are fighting for Skyrim's independence from the Empire.

[@marialuke2116]

yeah, its hard to feel like your player character makes any real difference in the game. :\

[@ezron9366]

HickoryDickory86 look, I just support the stormcloaks because Revolution rules

[@autisticautomaton]

but he's racist

[@HickoryDickory86]

DragonLord MC, by that logic, then, you should equally support the Forsworn rebellion. If you don't, then it's not really about the revolution or even independence.

[@The4j1123]

Wait, there are people who don't know you can do this? I always do this. I save the civil war quests for after the main quest line.

[@kokirij0167]

Me too

[@khornebrambord7355]

in what purpose ? they will be so easy at that point !

[@94oddy]

I always wondered how it would be to do the civil war first, i never felt like doing it right away

[@khongnoi1012]

Well, the way I think about it, is "Killing dragons? No, I want to rekt those dragons when I finally fight them. Better stay as far away from those quests as possible for now"

[@khornebrambord7355]

that is so strange ! don't you like having any challenge ? there is no fun for me when it is too easy

[@hamdsheikh9205]

3rd option? I've gotten a truce in EVERY playthrough of mine, I thought this was the only option

[@sandorvas3954]

if you defeat one faction this mission wont even appear.

[@rossoneri1085]

How do I do this I've never even seen this before wtf

[@sandorvas3954]

ROSSONERI 108 dont do the faction quests before doing the main questline.

[@NoName-wd7it]

I knew there were options, but pretty much every playthrough I get this since the civil war gets repetitive and is very lacking in my opinion. (Before anyone jumps on me, I fucking love Skyrim and probably have at least 1000 more hours playing than you do.)

[@knives2718]

I didn't even know this 3rd option existed. Holy shit, I was going back and forth between Imperials and stormcloaks in my playthroughs.

[@channeljohnnyYT]

everyone: *enters the room and takes a seat* dragonborn: *enters* tulius: welcome lord dragonborn, we’ve been expecting you dragonborn: *locks the doors*

[@Newvamp]

But we are making a ceasefire! The war is over!

[@LTDoge-dm3jr]

feel's like the presidential debate "MAKE SKYRIM GREAT AGAIN" "TRAITOR, USING THE VOICE TO GAIN AN UNFAIRLY ADVANTAGE OVER THE HIGHKING"

[@trev6326]

No Ulfric is nothing like trump.

[@LTDoge-dm3jr]

Acid is Acidic for better or worse?

[@trev6326]

LT. Doge Considering he's killed i would say worse.

[@mrpara7276]

Hillary would be elisif some puppet ruled by a string of higher powers whos ultimate goal is to bring the world to an end.

[@trev6326]

Mr Para Yep.

[@ThePlank1991]

god knows how many times ive played through skyrim and i didn't even know this was a thing

[@kylekissack4633]

Is this a thing or is it a mod

[@gunnarswanson9438]

@@kylekissack4633 Yes it's a thing if you haven't finished the civil war questline before reaching a certain point in the main questline.

[@groovyhoovy9793]

The mission right before capturing the dragon in white run is this mission and it’s stupid because no matter what even if your 100% equal in how you divide the provinces both sides leave pissed off

[@gunnarswanson9438]

@@groovyhoovy9793 Lmao yeah

[@darthvader9969]

I got this option for my first playthrough because I decided to not play the main questline before I got to the end of the Civil War

[@The_Gallowglass]

Step 1: Stormcloaks, because the Empire let's the Thalmor shit all over Skyrim. Step 2: Realize the Thalmor orchestrated and fostered the rebellion to divide the empire. Skyrim was always part of the Empire and the patron of Skyrim was the first Emperor. Step 3: Reunite Skyrim with the Empire, by making peace between the Empire and Stormcloaks and hunting the Thalmor down, dissolving the concordat and driving all traces of the Dominion out of Skyrim.

[@fionaklem7632]

No there isn't sadly... The best option is STILL the Stormcloaks.

[@mattmaman]

Don't mind me here.

[@The_Gallowglass]

Yo Mama That's my point. There should have been an option to reunite the empire and take on the Thalmor. Even when I join the Legion, I make it a point to stalk the Thalmor and kill them all.

[@gioc2512]

+MattMaMan That "writer" hasn't worked for the company in years therefore anything they write is non canon

[@mattmaman]

Giovanni Colimorio Alright then my bad.

[@hallamhal]

A Silver-Blood as Jarl of Markarth and a Black-Briar as Jarl of Riften. I don't see how any of that can go wrong

[@FallenRingbearer]

Eh, they practically are anyways tbh.

[@mordredpendragon1235]

They basically already were anyway

[@michaeldost8155]

What should really anger us about this video, is that this guy KILLED Paarthunax

[@tantalizintoast2927]

I can solve This cicvil war in three words *FUS RO DA*

[@hugebuffman3619]

@RG But less trademarked

[@MichaelJ44]

Tantalizin Toast When the bottom line makes more English than the top line

[@RaDrumba]

No I rather not get blow by the dragonborn. Because he ate 1,000 garlic when the meeting began. But i always wonder how he got into the collage of Winterhold with bad breath.

[@WildRaven2008]

Best word Butcher of the word Civil

[@caav56]

What about *KRII LUN AUS* ?

[@yeyegtpp]

1) Why the fuck would you killed Paarthurnax?! 2) Delphine has a hazardous tongue by speaking that way to the Grey Beards about their murdered and beloved master. Delphine's word may were very rude, but there are no hers the words able to vaporize people... Grey Beard's do :v 3) To think Elenwen had to make the 7000 steps path in vain just to get kicked out of the reunion and had to come back by her own through the same way just make me laugh gladly. x) Ps. I know... my english may sucks.

[@Xpost2000]

I agree with three lol. Anyways the English is understandable which is good!

[@yeyegtpp]

Xpost2000 thanks.

[@borntodie297]

+Gabriel Pereira 3) Is so enjoyable that I have done it at least 3 times on seperate characters, kick the smug elfs down a notch :D

[@yeyegtpp]

borntodie297​ yeah haha. And now that I think about it, it is not only the HUGE botherness of walking up and down the 7000 Steps Path; in addition, once she reached the village down of the mountain, she still have to come back all the way to the Thalmor embassy, west of Solutide, which even if she take a chariot, it is still fucking far from the village hahaha x)

[@borntodie297]

Gabriel Pereira We should have the dialog option "Thanks for coming, now fuck off" XD

[@vivecthepoet36]

Fourth Option: *Rains of Castamere starts playing as the Dragonborn locks the door...*

[@joachims4726]

Arngeir your not gonna want to watch this *casts dragonhide and draws a triple enchanted,fully upgraded dragonbone greatsword* You all have committed crimes against Skyrim and it's people what say you in your defence?

[@sephservant]

Aaaaannnd you just handed Skyrim over to the Dominion on a silver platter. Congrats.

[@Dramoklos]

@@sephservant the aldermeri dominion is next

[@zxylo786]

@@sephservant Good ending

[@logeyperogi1805]

@@Dramoklos oh my god, you just take over the entirety of Skyrim and bring forth everything in Skyrim against the Aldmeri Dominion I love the idea of every creature in Skyrim (literally every single creature, including the ones that aren’t a part of quest lines like the Dwemer Automatons, the Falmer and more) coming together and just destroying the Aldmeri Dominion You want Skyrim? You can have it, and everything that comes with it

[@Northwite]

Given what the Dragonborn is capable of, a "All of you STFU, I'M in charge now" option should be allowed. Also, should you have gone through every other Faction prior to this, the Dragonborn should then be able to threaten both the Imperials and the Stormcloaks with the combined might of Him/Herself, The Companions, The Thieves Guild, The Dark Brotherhood, and the College of Winterhold. The Dragonborn in this game is essentially Talos/Tiber Septim in ability and reputation if you went through all the Factions. If Talos/Tiber Septim could dominate the world, the Dragonborn could easily conquer Skyrim and unite it against the Thalmor.

[@CartyCantDance]

Agreed!

[@borntodie297]

+NorthernDragon A being that could easily rofl stomp the entire room? Yup that option should be modded in XD

[@slayser7179]

the ldb just bend will ulfric and tullius and make them unite against the thalmors

[@srikrishnabhat6793]

+NorthernDragon Isn't the dragonborn stronger than Tiber Septim himself? Paarthurnax stated that he has never seen a Nordic hero on par with the three people he taught and on top of that, the dragonborn surpassed these three as well. So, I believe the dragonborn is stronger than Tiber Septim.

[@Northwite]

Srikrishna Bhat I think Tiber Septim was a Dragonborn wasn't he?

[@aaron1845]

Choosing which side you want to be on is like voting in the election this year. It's all a matter of who you hate the least

[@mikethemilkman5246]

+asida goodbulb lol

[@deadweight7334]

Well the shitcloacks are a bunch of racists that want to kick everyone who isn't a nord out of skyrim And the empire is taking it up the ass from the thalmor Cast your vote

[@reidparker1848]

AMP Moron.

[@playsauce]

How's that "two evils" fallacy working out for you now? :) Learn your lesson yet? Make up for your apathy by voting D next week.

[@WhatAccrualWorld]

@@playsauce I voted Republican lol maga

[@chefpigardorito3590]

Council: Ok choose one of these sides... You: Yeah... About that... You're in this room, undefended, with the dragon born and his OP follower. No armies to protect you, so I suggest you all listen to me #dovahkiinforhighking

[@aakhila5371]

Chef Pigardorito Underrated Comment

[@1kvolt1978]

You say it like if armies actually could possibly protect anyone from Dragonborn. :D

[@logeyperogi1805]

@@1kvolt1978 Imma go through Skyrim and wipe out every Stormcloak and Imperial camp I come across And I’m gonna be doing it in my play through where I can only use the armour I think looks the best Soooo, a rogue Stormcloak is setting out to wipe out both factions, one army camp at a time

[@logeyperogi1805]

There were three characters I think were actually good in this council Arngeir, Esbern and Dovahkiin The player seemed to always have fair decisions to make, Arngeir agreed to having the council at High Hrothgar, which was neutral ground which was much needed, and Esbern was able to get people to actually understand the situation

[@AUS7EN]

And if you're dragonborn, you kill dragons by yelling at them. You shout 'FUCK' at Alduin, he's dead.

[@SqwidsCity]

thank you for the chuckle

[@AUS7EN]

ur welcome.

[@awkward.6889]

BLuEboy124 I laughed way too hard...

[@foiledits]

just yell the 3 words of power: *GO FUCK YOURSELF*

[@AUS7EN]

I bet that's how Alduin came back lol

[@sereysothe.a]

this isn't a third option, this is just part of the main quest. when it ends, you still have to take a side

[@leroyjenkins9000]

please kind sir tell me how to trigger this

[@leroyjenkins9000]

you know, funny thing, i thought this was a mod when i click on the video, and then i was like wooow the voice acting is way too good, 30 seconds in i was like... is this some kind of locked away content like the windhelm arena? and then my mind was blown

[@StacieMMeier]

LEROY JENKINS Do not finish nor even start the Civil war Missions before you get to this point. That's how you get this. If you finished the Civil War Mission this part of main-quest never happens. You may still do the Civil War mission, just that some of the quests shall not happen, since a few were meant to take the cities you give.

[@AlecTheBroken2]

If you finish the civil war first before you get to this part then this won't happen

[@AndrewJ9673]

No. I took over whiterun during alduins wall (esbern dissapeared) and then when i finally found esbern, i went on, but the quest still needs this unless you finished the civil war questline

[@mysticdragonwolf89]

I did not kill Parthuunax, I spared him while maintaining command of the Blades. I used the strength of the Thuum to force them to comply

[@kadolflannister5439]

mysticdragonwolf89 exactly like me :V

[@trentweems4374]

mysticdragonwolf89 How do you do that?

[@monochaos9442]

+Trent Weems I think they used mods

[@mysticdragonwolf89]

It is a mod. I believe its called Sparing Parthuunax.

[@mysticdragonwolf89]

This way, I keep access to the Blades while the old trusty dragon lives XD XD XD

[@benjbk]

I love how everybody is dealing with the dreagon situation, but the stormcloaks immediatly run off, because they have "important stuff to do".

[@baltonus1120]

I love how the Imperials let Thalmor in a council about Skyrim when they are Skyrim worst and prolonged enemy. Logic at it’s best

[@StrawbySugar]

Diego Rivera Bermejo They had to or else the Thalmor could assume it as a secret plot against them and attack Skyrim as a whole

[@troller8680]

@@baltonus1120 and i love how Ulfric gave Thalmor excuse to hunt down Talos worshippers in Skyrim.

[@privatedino3239]

@@StrawbySugar yeah against two nations and a angry Dragonborn who can already change the fate of one war

[@StrawbySugar]

@@privatedino3239 that's still a lot of unnecessary casualties and the dragonborn wasn't even known to be back until a while after that decision

[@dstarsdstar7957]

I feel so bad for Angier, he’s asked can we proceed three times and the council hasn’t even started yet, at this point I’m convinced he just wants to get this over with rather than actually come to peace

[@logeyperogi1805]

Arngeir is like “I don’t even care how this ends anymore, just get these people out of my fucking temple”

[@Deadlee29]

the arch-listener of the thieves guild, dragon king.

[@ArieeirA]

well im the Vampire werewofl arch-listener of the thieves guild, dragon lord im also a father with 2 kids and a mansion

[@redrocketrider]

Robbie Knox "arch-listener" is the most retarded thing I've ever heard

[@demonreaper6953]

- VV - EsseoS haha so true

[@neru_pehut]

I'm Thief master of the Dark Brotherhood.

[@ejfunny]

The Wise Man I'm the arch-companion of the bard brotherhood, chicken-born

[@Iceman-go1gs]

idk why I watched this, I've literally done this a few hundred times

[@curiousgiraffe9172]

I never experienced this part

[@Iceman-go1gs]

***** then you either finished the civil war beforehand or you didn't finish the game

[@noahcunningham3166]

Iceman how does this quest get activated I've beat the game 2 times and never seen this

[@russianspy5307]

Do the main quest before you do the civil war

[@Iceman-go1gs]

you have to do the main quest before completing the civil war.

[@thegoodstuff6130]

I always wore a dragon priest mask and I imagined my character falling asleep under the mask during the meeting without anyone realising 😂 Like when homer had those fake glasses he wore to court x

[@crimsonmaelstrom573]

I actually fell asleep and woke up finding everyone looking at me for a decision 😅

[@urthofthenewsun8465]

Giving Markarth to the Stormcloaks is a genius idea for the Empire honestly. Ulfric has spent years seething over the Empire's seizure of the city following the Markarth Incident which lead to his imprisonment. The Reach is a position of personal importance to Ulfric, yet the native Forsworn will hold a much bigger grudge against the Stormcloaks compared to the Empire. Realistically, it would be hard for the Stormcloaks to hold the region without constant Forsworn insurrections. Although the region is rich in minerals, the constant threat of civil unrest amongst the natives is terrible for soldier morale and barely seems worth it compared to the stable, fertile farming region of the Rift. Riften is also right next to Cheydinhal and Bruma, it would just be a short hike through the Jerall Mountains to connect the Imperial forces of Skyrim to Cyrodiil.

[@aidankeys8534]

Late, really late, but also Markarth is then surrounded by Imperial territory, making the reconquest all that easier.

[@JamestheFreak24]

The Dragonborn should just take over the empire and kill all the thalmor

[@pj9100]

We should also, take Bikini Bottom and push it somewhere else. Alas if only we could...

[@brothinkhecarti69]

And Take Out The Stormcloaks Too, So He Could Be High King

[@logeyperogi1805]

I’d take the Stormcloak uniforms for my army and instead of the Stormcloak emblem, use the Akaviri Dragonborn emblem, maybe change the uniforms a bit like adding some armour plating to the shoulders and chest, and finally a cape I call it, the Skyrim Army uniform, a uniform for the true children of Skyrim regardless of their race (because unlike what many Nords believe, Skyrim belongs to everyone who has a life in Skyrim, regardless of their race, it’s actually my main reason for not supporting Ulfric) Choosing between the Empire and Ulfric is like choosing between the Nazis and Trump

[@claytonedwards852]

Honestly, it's hard to bring myself to side with the Stormcloaks because they storm Whiterun and, as Thane, betray Jarl Balgruuf. I like him too much.

[@logeyperogi1805]

I don’t side with them because they’re racist It’s explicitly stated that if you’re not a Nord, they don’t care about you whatsoever, the best you get from them is tolerance When I found out they would kick out Balgruuf, I was almost tempted to side with the Empire but then remembered they’re bad too and said “Well, guess I’m not gonna take either side, I’m going rogue”

[@madmantheepic7278]

The Empire may be bad but they’re still the best bet against the Thalmor, the nords dont see the bigger picture all they see is what infront of them. Blinded by their pride and mighty Talos.

[@skavanagh2778]

@@madmantheepic7278 becuase the imperials aren't also pawns of the thalmor? they literally dance to their beck and call

[@KillerofGods]

​@@skavanagh2778 The Imperials still have more manpower than the Dominion, and with the dominions Daedric artifacts destroyed they would be helpless in another war once the Empire recovers. The civil war prevents that recovery and assures the Dominion will take over the continent. Is Skyrim going to fight off the whole continent alone?

[@alphadoughnut2651]

@@logeyperogi1805bro every race in elder scrolls is racist from the nords to the high elves to the dark elves to the kahjit

[@twobearshighfiving7660]

My Terms as Dragonborn; Grant Skyrim Independence for an allegiance against the Thalmor. Rally Empire, Skyrim and command a Dragon horde (and any one who wants to join) to genocide the Thalmor once and for all. Complete and thoroughly. Honestly why is it not an option to just fight the Thalmor, they're everyone's enemy. And if the war was stalemate/attritional before, then with a demigod Dragonborn and a Dragon fleet, they really don't stand a chance.

[@finowenn]

because you have to remember that the empire doesn't just exist in skyrim, it also exists in places like cyrodiil. tulius doesn't have the authority without the word of the emperor (who wasn't at the meeting and likely wouldn't have agreed due to the great war that already killed the vast majority of imperial soldoers fighting for the empire)

[@DavidbarZeus1]

Because the Empire fought a war against the Thalmor and barely survived, they doubt they can win another war without a longer recovery period.

[@logeyperogi1805]

Because the Empire got their ass handed to them by the Aldmeri Dominion in the last Great War which was 30 years prior to the events of Elder Scrolls 5, and the Empire was still licking it’s wounds But things have changed, with an army of Dragons and all the people of Skyrim united, I’d say they might actually have a better chance at victory, hell I’m pretty sure that the presence of a single dragon in a battle would completely turn the tide in the favour of the Dragonborn

[@yellow_flash813]

@@logeyperogi1805 bruh the presence of the dovahkiin Is more than enough to turn the tide of a battle 💀 like what are they gonna do if the dovahkiin rocks up

[@conspiratorofplots8059]

I miss the option to marry that idiot queen and become the lord of Skyrim, they took it out; obviously because that would've been our default option but god I wish they'd bring it back.

[@Griede26]

prolly a mod for it its also likely that the scripting and dialog are still in game and are just disabled.

[@conspiratorofplots8059]

You're correct, it is suppose to still exist and I think I saw it before; for special edition it could be inside cutting room floor. If not I know the original Skyrim had something like it

[@slime4422]

Technically, that would only work if Elisif had later been elected via the moot. By the rules, Ulfric is technically has the right to the throne, despite what he did being incredibly stupid.

[@johnstovall7503]

The idiot queen was the only one of negotiators talking sense here. This horsetrading cities was madness and proposing it makes the proposer a festering piece of filth

[@anthonyspitery6332]

I never realized how big of an ass I was ridiculing the empire with Ulfric on this council while poor jarl Elyssif sits in the same room with Ulfric, the man who killed her husband. All I thought of was those dam Imperials trying to kill me at Helgen, and those dam Thalmor bitches

[@samero]

If u read one of the books in game (don't remember what the name was or if it was even a book) it explains the Jarl Ulfric did not "murder" the high king, he challenged him for the position of High King (fuck I'm a nerd)

[@giuseppeciullointer]

+Samir Ibrahim It wasn't a book, Torygg was elected fairly by the Moot and Ulfric, using the Thu'um, went against the Way of the Voice. Ulfric has however no power to decide which law is applied in Solitude.

[@anthonyspitery6332]

Samir Ibrahim Thats right, I should not have said murder

[@justaclown3228]

Honestly you probably would have been let go of it wasn't for that one bitch who says to take you to the block anyways. Hadvar is fucking awesome

[@justaclown3228]

If*

[@somberflight]

i've never killed paarthurnax and i still dont get why should we.

[@googlebarbaralernerspectre2581]

I killed him once when I sided with the Stormcloaks, I'm doing an imperial side now, fuck the thalmor.

[@sagethegreat4680]

You don't have to the only reason to kill him is if you want to join the blades and do the blades quests

[@renardnoir2581]

Geoff Sarlo they have quests?

[@somberflight]

Noir Renard yes. after you can paarthurnax you can bring delphine 3 followers to become blades. after that you just kill dragons with the blades.. as someone who hates followers(becase they get in my way) i've never done any dragon hunts with them

[@renardnoir2581]

Alexander Wood hmmm I already have that quest. Idk I like the hole followers thing I'm a glass cannon so I need mates to take agro. I just fos ro da them out of the way if there in my way

[@RedwoodTheElf]

I was working on a mod that would have truly ended the civil war if you completed the dragon arc without ever taking sides in the civil war. You would then get the option to trick Ulfric and Elisif into a political marriage, truly ending the civil war in a tie. The Thalmor would then have invaded on the north coast. I couldn't get the final battle to work, however, and gave up in frustration. That was about 9 years ago...maybe with the updated creation kit I can give it another shot.

[@crimsonmaelstrom573]

Please do. It sounds awesome

[@IslarfPokemon]

"War" -> "Season unending" The season doesn't seem to change in skyrim in the game xD... War never changes....

[@IslarfPokemon]

***** Skyrim 2 confirmed *bait*

[@werewolfleader1695]

Islarf skyrim seasons actually change you can see snow in riverwood

[@ganondorf153vancasand3]

Islarf there both fighting for the same thing..

[@peterfisher2065]

I just wasted 15 minutes of my life expecting some new shit but I wasn't even aware people didn't know this was a thing

[@Animaster89]

Yeah fuck this shit. Could have at least made it less of a clickbait

[@SaraemillsASMR]

How do you get to this point?

[@scbfakke7992]

@@SaraemillsASMR I get everytime to this point, never get any other.

[@tempestjewel]

Me too! I was like we can change the negotiation? Hell yeah! Fifteen minutes of my life I'll never get back

[@battletoads22]

Ouch! Maven and Silver-Blood as Jarls. I'd hate to see that happen.

[@DukeofNukem98]

battletoads22 like our modern day presidential candidates

[@GeneralPadron]

+Jon the don98 Lol!

[@mariovasquez5961]

Silver bloods are way worse then the black briars

[@e01apslsk]

Maven is amazing tho,

[@windowsmizu416]

battletoads22 Kind of like Trump.

[@carbon6390]

You chose to kill Paarthurnax, I guess you failed to overcome that evil nature! .

[@barniespacullie3812]

My 3rd option is become vampire lord, then upon the last civil war mission simply transform and summon an army of gargoyles, vampires, conjured assisanins and to kill everyone else. Use vampire grip to throw genral tulius and ulfric stormcloak around. If you are given mission failed consider it a sucsess and win for the new vampire high king. Become thane of every city to establish authority eoth guards and switch the gear of every mercinary to build your vampire army with a uniform.

[@aRedTalonPro]

Become a vampire, then complete the dark brotherhood quests, then finish the civil war, before the main quests with the grey beards.

[@idnyftw]

would've been cool if the dlcs gave new options for the civil war storyline, like beating miraak would let you come bring a fleet of dragons, being a vampire lord letting you mind control all factions, or even just being a big landowner giving you some kind of pull with the citizens effectively becoming your own pseudo faction...

[@AlejandroFlores-vi8tl]

Dragonborn: Ok play nice Imperials:No Stormcloaks:No Dragonborn: Ok well I guess I will be Emperor

[@logeyperogi1805]

Let’s look at it this way The Empire: Allowed Thalmor agents into Skyrim to wipe out Talos worship through executing Talos worshippers, or to rephrase it, allowed enemy soldiers to enter Skyrim and kill their people The Stormcloaks: Don’t care for any race other than the Nords, and the best treatment they give to the other races is just tolerance It’s like having to choose between the Nazis or a dumber and more terrible Trump! NEITHER SIDE IS GOOD!!!

[@budoka92]

why isn't there mod where rains of castlemere starts playing on background and doors shut, and db stabs ulfric into chest and says imperials send their regards?

[@komodobadger3687]

budoka92 there should simply be an option to kill the imperials and stormcloaks and say "fuck it, im the dragonborn bitches"

[@proverbialking3452]

budoka92 no no...it would be better if the rains of catemere played and it was the db that got stabbed. The chickens sends their regard.

[@charleenlangley1901]

When fighting the Stormcloaks at any of the sieges, they sometimes shout "Ulfric sends his regards!".

[@ZyliceLiddell]

It would be amusing to see all of the guests climbing the 7000 steps together lol.

[@bomcstoots1]

the arguing lmao

[@logeyperogi1805]

Tullius stops to take a breath and Ulfric starts laughing at him

[@yellow_flash813]

@@logeyperogi1805 🤣🤣

[@crimsonmaelstrom573]

That would probably have devolved into a brawl 😂

[@tristanskywalker1998]

This negotiation is one of the reasons I sided with the empire. For the most part, they were the ones who wanted to stay focused on the matter at hand, were calm and collected and reasonable. Ulfric was childish, unwavering in his demands, and every other sentence he uttered was just stroking his own ego. Plus, notice that the Stormcloaks took off as soon as the negotiations ended, while the empire actually stuck around to try to help the Dragonborn come up with a plan to fight the dragons.

[@alphadoughnut2651]

I hear this a lot (and I know this is 4 years old.) but just hear me out. Imagine if your religion and lands, brothers and sisters, political and economic autonomy were all taken from you and when your understandably upset and shout from the rooftops for justice, everybody goes “Why can’t you just be rational?” The oppressors are always more willing to be calm and willing to negotiate because ultimately they know they’ll benefit overall when compared to the start.

[@zacharypridemore8065]

so basically just not starting either quest?

[@Newvamp]

Basically

[@angerytemplar777]

ypu

[@94oddy]

Zachary Pridemore well you could start it once the war isnt over

[@dedsec5937]

IceVeins no. this is temporary peace. the war continues after you save tamriel form Alduin.

[@dedsec5937]

from*

[@alphaboss2800]

I love how Bethesda created the two sides. the Imperials are the more power hungry side that controls everything and the Stormcloaks are just trying to be more independent and hate their control. Why wouldn't you pick the Stormcloaks right? Oh yeah, they're a bunch of racist criminals too. Tough decisions but great experience.

[@k1ng_BL0C]

Alpha Boss well actually if the storm cloaks won, nobody would really defend skyrim from foreign invasion, and maybe the thalmor, would do to the nords what they did to the imperials. the heavy instability that would be caused if they won the civil war would be devastating.

[@Dueilangoisseus]

The Thalmor wants the civil war to continue. They don't want either side to win.

[@1ruisu]

Alpha Boss You forget the stormcloak's leader is also a thalmor puppet.

[@christiannipales9937]

Ulfric is the power hungry one. Ulfric killed Titus in a duel he knew that titus would lose. They thing about Titus tho, if you talk to one of the stormcloaks who used to be the steward of the emperor, he would tell you that titus held ulfric to such high esteem; since they both fought against the elves in the war, that if ulfric had just asked Titus to secede from the empire, he would have. but ulfric chose to basically state either you duel me and die, or never go to heaven (as is according to Skyrim tradition) for a move to gain power. He could've just asked Titus and have the legitimate ruler of Skyrim lead the rebellion but chose that he wanted the title himself.

[@trevorritzman7079]

Titus is the emperor. You thinking of Torygg who was the high king.

[@Yesme198]

9:31 I really like how eveyone is so confused after Esberns speech like who even invited this guy

[@nathanlamberth7631]

That's not a third option. That's a temporary pause to choosing.

[@jeremydiaz9642]

Politicians: (Argue) Dragonborn: *_"I'd rather go slay dragons than listen to this."_*

[@Ertwin123]

Thanks for making sure the subtitles were on. It really helps us deaf people.

[@setro9874]

Ertwin123 u can turn on captions

[@Ertwin123]

Have you ever tried that? The captions are "best guess" and often very very wrong. Especially in Sci-fi and fantasy related videos. It's often worse than no captions.

[@SixStringsOfHeart]

Don't be a bitch. You seem like the typical geek who complains about everything.

[@Ertwin123]

How is asking for subtitles because i can't hear considered complaining about everything?

[@setro9874]

At least it is better than not being able to read right because right now the way you say subtitles are use less is making you seam like a complainer

[@Hopscotchpro11]

everyone: *arguing* dragonborn: yeah . . mhm . .

[@FreddieMercurytheSharkWrestler]

Holy fucking shit, I've played so many Skyrim playthroughs but this is the first time I've ever even heard of this. Now I need to look at a complete quest list to see what else I've missed.

[@Buddhistsocialist]

Freddie Mercury it's part of the main story

[@FreddieMercurytheSharkWrestler]

xxplvb I always do the civil war before I get to this point in the main story.

[@PrinceDamienSilves]

I got the truce on my first playthrough lol

[@lilyfaraday5107]

xxplvb I think I finished the main storyline first , yet I dont recall ever having this event play out

[@kambor1578]

5:28 The truce is temporary. Once you kill Alduin the truce is broken faster than you can say "Fus Ro Dah"

[@combinecommando001]

I always side with the Empire because they have Doc Mitchel as their general.

[@justbliss909]

You made me love the imperials

[@simbachvazo6530]

Well damn..... now I am always gonna be independent. I love the Doc but hate the empire now...

[@generaltwi7511]

I usually join the stormcloaks because in the beginning the Imperials tried executing you for crossing the border(despite not being on the list).

[@FishTKK]

Now make a mod where the Stormcloaks caught Tullius and have him ask if your awake using the fo:nv lines.

[@outland9872]

@@FishTKK WE GET IT

[@meb64meb]

Hail Alduin. The eater of worlds. The saviour of dragons.

[@blarg2429]

He can eat my world any time, if you know what I mean. ;) Also, if you know what I mean, please tell me. I have no idea. :o

[@cheesuscrust1835]

blarg2429 it means one day you shall own Uranus lucky you :D

[@blarg2429]

Kirito Uzumaki Really? Awesome! ^_^ I've always wanted an excuse to tell rude, childish puns all day long. I'll be looking forward to this.

[@cheesuscrust1835]

can i live on Uranus it looks big and roomy through my telescope

[@cheesuscrust1835]

can you fetch me a crowbar it's a bit stick i dont know what i happened i swear i just umm slipped

[@goncalvesssss]

04:09 General Tullius: This Dragonborn has such a familiar face... Ah never mind...

[@SirCrabthe1st]

"I can't quite put my finger on it... meh."

[@crimsonmaelstrom573]

“Yeah! Remember Helgen? You were about to chop off my head!”

[@grondunn9707]

I wish if you have read the Thalmor recordings on their imprisonment of Ulfric, you could bring up that Ulfric is somehow being an asset to them. Then figure out the Thalmor’s plans and unite the Stormcloaks and Imperials.

[@tylerjaynes822]

"You don't just plan to hand over Markarth to that..that traitor" Said Elisef, the HIGH QUEEN of Skyrim. You make the rules, bitch iron fist this shit

[@Kamina-brah]

Tyler Jaynes She is not High Queen. The moot has not chosen her to be so. Following the traditions Ulfrik has the rightful claim having beaten the King in combat.

[@tylerjaynes822]

DemonFoxDeity I posted this before I got the remaster, I forgot that tidbit of info

[@e01apslsk]

tbh she shouldnt be high queen, MAVEN BLACKBRIAR SHOULD

[@Blaybay123]

I love the fact that people here discuss Skyrim politics but are still calm while if you mention politics from real life people loose their shit xD