Skyrim Got an Unbelievable Update

[@Apoqsi]

*UPDATED DOWNGRADE TUTORIAL:* kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpzCqpmYisZmm9E ❤

[@rixa.]

meh

[@GrimGalore]

Money, money, money... MONEY!

[@RobVespa]

I don't like it. I don't like the increasingly greedy model adopted by more and more game companies (and the world). It's monetization from the company that helped invent it. This repackaged Creation Club (which is an ATOM cash shop with player curated content) isn't well thought out or designed. Do you really believe this? I don't understand how you can look at it, break it down and walk away thinking this. I don't think this perspective was justified in the video (unless I missed something) and I don't get where you're coming from. I'm confused. Aside: Apologists are just the worst. Edit: Thanks for liking my comment. I appreciate that (unless you like all of them). I do hope you'll further explore this topic in the future, although I don't understand why all the bases weren't covered in this video. I'd like to know the rationale behind a perspective different from mine (which is based on facts gleaned from what we have today - the features and communication/marketing - coupled with history).

[@publiusdos5925]

I'm taking a wait and see approach but it seems to a well thought out system. Wanting to monetize the fact that their games are heavily modded isn't a bad impulse from a business point of view. Trying to make something profitable is not a bad thing. The problem is when you get a bunch of corporate sociopaths trying to squeeze as much blood out of a turnip as possible for short term profits. Creation Club always struck me as something designed by a manager who didn't really understand the market they were working with in any way whatsoever, and I think this new model works much better.

[@Apoqsi]

@RobVespa If you're calling me a BGS apologist... you definitely haven't been on this channel before. But I am open to knowing what you actually think isn't well-designed or well thought out. I'm always open to being swayed, but just saying "you're wrong" with no context is unproductive discussion. p.s. I am someone who has criticized Starfield since before it released… hence why I only have one post-launch video on the game

[@GrimGalore]

Nope. It's totally believable. This is their 3rd try at paid mods, if I remember correctly. If BGS spent half the time they spent on coming up with more ways to monetize Skyrim on actually developing ES6, we'd have that game by now.

[@Apoqsi]

My question is, would you not agree that it has been less dogshit each of those times with more community feedback taken into account? As for TESVI, this sort of thing has no noticable impact. What has held TESVI back is Fallout 76, Creation Engine 2.0 upgrades, and Starfield.

[@JohnnyHughes1]

​@@ApoqsiYou are correct. This is a well thought out plan taking into account mod authors feedback. Some people like it and others hate it. But mod authors who want to charge money for their work like it. The problem is, many people feel entitled to free mods.. author's desires be damned. They will 'never' pay for something they think they are entitled to for free. But you are only entitled to software for free IF the person who wrote it and uploaded it wants it distributed for free. If the owner thinks it is worth money, taking it for free is stealing. Many, many mods are free and that is great. But if people want to be compensated then they should be. People are not going to like this video.. but you are absolutely right. The number of fixes is also outstanding. Obviously, with any update, there will be a period of time that some mods will uninstallable due to need to be made compatible. But that does not mean those mods should not be rolled it. 'Bethesda releases half finished games and relies on modders' ... Then same.person when Bethesda actually pushes MAJOR changes 'Why do they do this .. rolls back major updates before' AND complains that Bethesa does not fix issues.

[@lakkakka]

​@@Apoqsino. It is a more polished turd. And when people finally do accept a certain version they will start moving tge boundaries again and with babysteps scam players out of more and more money.

[@Apoqsi]

@@lakkakka You do realize BGS can't do anything to prevent/block free mods, right? Even if they wanted to. The only ones they could screw over are console players. PC players will always have access to free mods. The only ones who can kill free modding are mod authors themselves by leaving the community. Killing off free modding wouldn't benefit BGS. It would be detrimental to their current games, their future games, the mod community, and the very people they depend on to make content for the paid mod system. This isn't theory. It's fact. BGS has zero reason to do it and has only showed behaviour of the opposite. You don't give early builds under NDA to the script extender team if your objective is to kill them off. That is illogical.

[@lakkakka]

@@Apoqsi doesn't matter that modders can do that. The issue is that they force that bullshit on me. I didn't buy the game they are trying to alter my bought version. No matter how you try to advocate for them or justify their bullshit. It is backstabbing their playerbase while spitting in your face. And in all honesty that you seem to just so easily bend down to bethesda doing almost convinces me you are an actual problem. Advocating acceptance and bowing down where one should just band together and fight against this unwanted and unrequested shit.

[@Drag7on]

If Bethesda kills the free mods, I'm done with them. We will see about this issue.

[@Apoqsi]

I would be in the same boat. Not worried about it, but if that day ever comes… you can then expect me to make A LOT of noise about it.

[@JustAllinOneResource]

Right, I'm sure. You most likely will be first in line to buy Skyrim 6. Stop Lying.

[@Drag7on]

@@JustAllinOneResource Don't have Starfield, after the crap they pulled. So nope I will not get Elder Scroll 6. More likely they kill off my followers, to make super edge.

[@JustAllinOneResource]

@@Drag7on Good. Reason why I said what I said is because I have seen folks say the same thing, and see them do the exact opposite. Good on you for refusing to go along. Respect.

[@JustAllinOneResource]

@@Horsemanray I'm only saying Skyrim 6 because that is what everyone is talking about. Also, I've been playing this series from the very beginning. I began playing Arena, then of course the best game ever released from Bethesda called Daggerfall which I still play to this day. I was 28 at the time, and enjoyed every game they ever released, and it was back in 1994 I began modding their games. To this day I still mod them.

[@UNiTEDDKSilent21]

Imagine not understanding what's keeping your game alive, news flash, it's not your development choices.

[@wolfish4548]

Personally I am fucking furious at this company not letting this game go, if you don't disable automatic updates on Steam, you wake up and see that your whole modlist is turned to shit because the game version changed by 0.0.4. with absolutely worthless and niche changes.

[@Apoqsi]

I’ll be making some tutorials to make this less of an issue for the meantime.

[@mrsauceman5721]

Forgive me if I'm stupid but can't you just set the game to an older version on Steam?

[@Apoqsi]

@@mrsauceman5721 No, Steam has no built-in rollback support and doesn't even allow you to fully disable forced auto-updates. GOG allows both of those things.

[@Bushman06]

@@Apoqsi sorry to be a 🤓 but that's untrue you go to you manifest file I belive its numbers are 489830 and the directory should look similar to this C:\SteamLibrary\steamapps and right click then you click read only so steam can not edit it so no updates

[@ajdinyavuz7575]

@@Apoqsi im so tierd of companies treating us like this, time for a new hobby

[@JoseSalcido69]

Glad to see you finally uploading again, keep the pressure on.

[@Apoqsi]

Appreciate it! I won't be going anywhere this time. 😊

[@45sticky]

I could care less about the paid content. I get all my mods from Nexus, in which I have a collection plus mods. My mod list is sitting around 576 mods in which I’m very happy with. I just wanna play the game, and of course now it’s broken. I’m extremely frustrated at this point, they should’ve done better job, however, I think this is by design.

[@edstar83]

Image you had to pay for those mods, even if they charged $1. Modfing Skyrim becomes expensive real fast.

[@wanitopablito]

They need to let this game go, just finish ES6 😞

[@MooneShadow]

I'll come back when Beyond skyrim is completed.

[@redhood4105]

Es5 came out when I was 13 by the time ES6 comes out I’ll be on kid number 2… It’s been WAAAAY TOO LONG and both my kids will be closer in age to how old I was when it came out then I am… It’s genuinely nuts

[@marcuscollins816]

....as long as the cows producing

[@guardianoftexas5188]

NO you mean. ES6 the ES5 Remastered Remastered Remastered version? 😂

[@guardianoftexas5188]

@@redhood4105it came out when I was 10 or 11

[@Nerazmus]

4:00 WHAT? You need a job application so that Bethestda can sell your stuff? That is beyond disgusting. Why would anyone sign up to that? I don't know how much Bethesda would need to pay me to do that.

[@nozhki-busha]

They have been trying to do paid mods, I didnt fall for it twice before and I wont be giving them a cent of my money.

[@GruntPa101]

Given their abysmal performance over the past 5 years in particular, I won't hold my breath. I'm guessing minor improvements, no new content and it will be 90% cash grab. Only the free mods give Bethesda games legs. Yes, the free mods that Bethesda routinely breaks with largely worthless updates.

[@jarongreen5480]

It's annoying because I JUST GOT INTO SKYRIM. I starting playing it and had some problems with it, mostly armor being a bit too ridiculous looking for me as I am a history buff, but whatever issue I had there was a mod to fix it and I've been having a blast even getting really attached to my characters and their friends and stories. I really hope that I can play again soon and keep my mods.

[@Apoqsi]

I’ll be making some tutorials to hopefully assist with the situation. 😊

[@Christian-gr3gu]

​@@Apoqsiyeah I'm subbing just to hear for that. Can't wait for the video

[@peacefusion]

"history buff" lol this is rpg fantasy. But also, thankfully theres a mod for everyones style.

[@celticwarrior5261]

@@peacefusionI was a history buff that was able to get into fantasy bc of Skyrim. Bethesda games are a great introduction into the fantasy genre honestly.

[@jarongreen5480]

Thank you so much@@Apoqsi I really appreciate what you do.

[@hammerofscience534]

Yah I locked my game and mods down right before this update and I'm not sure if I will ever update again.

[@DBswag_]

Just wanna start off by saying a huge thank you to Apoqsi as you have literally been my one stop shop for Skyrim & Fallout modding news & tutorials for as long as I remember. You're doing an incredible job & both communities are lucky to have you 😊 ❤ Now about this update... Tbh it doesn't seem so bad. It's nowhere near the "Mod-pocalypse" we saw when AE released & this Creation Club 2.0 seems like it could be a good way for Mod Authors to make some money from their hard work. I'm not a fan of paid mods but I like the idea of people getting paid fairly for the work they do, so imo this seems like a step in the right direction from BGS. I know there's been some negative feedback too & I'm not without my share of concerns however I think people sometimes forget that BGS is a business which means their no1 goal is to make as much profit as possible. Creations, like them or loath them, look great on a spreadsheet as they bring in a consistent flow of profit overtime rather than Games & DLC that peak when they release & have lower profits as time goes on. I guess the old adage was right... *"Capitalism... Capitalism never changes."*

[@Apoqsi]

I seriously cannot thank you enough for the very kind words, it means more than you know! ❤

[@DBswag_]

@@Apoqsi No problem mate, keep up the amazing work 😁

[@mortalandfragile]

As someone who cannot be bothered to keep up with all these updates and patching/updating all my mods that I use, I cannot WAIT for Bethesda to just stop updating/supporting this game 😭 Like I love it to death, but omg I do not have the time for all this lmao, I've the same mod load-order since around the time the AE was released(a lil bit after), and I have not updated Skyrim since lol I'm glad a lotta these things are happening though like the wide-screen support, and stuff like that, but golly, I cannot keep fixing all my shit over and over 😅 Great video btw! Very in-depth and well covered, good shit!

[@Apoqsi]

I cover how to block updates in my downgrade video (most recent upload), just as a heads up. And thank you for the kind words! 😊

[@tjhedgescout3052]

I think i rather go back to Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3, and New Vegas. I had enough of paid mods, it just causes divide and toxicity... Not against mod authors wanting to make money, but some of them are going to lock away essential mods, and they only get about 30% of the money, which is a shitty split as bethesda gets the other 70% per sale.

[@solly119119]

"bethesda gets the other 70% per sale" How do you know that?

[@tjhedgescout3052]

@@solly119119Rumor, i can't say if that's entirely true or not, we have to wait for the mod authors to tell us what the cut is. I'm just going by what i heard. But mod makers should get a better cut than that, at least 50% preferably 70-90%

[@Apoqsi]

As discussed in the video, previously released content cannot be sold on the platform. Content sold can’t have ANY dependencies. And Creations can’t include fixes for the game. As for the rev split, it’s under NDA and that rumor was pulled out of someone’s ass just because it’s the standard revenue split in the industry. Not saying it isn’t the case, but the rumor stems from guessing/assuming rather than a source.

[@tjhedgescout3052]

@@Apoqsi All we can do is hope for the best, but still expect the worst.

[@edwinbetancourt3958]

​@@tjhedgescout3052they will never speak on the split. That would be a conflict of interest.

[@ionseven]

Greed... Greed never changes.

[@unseencerberus]

I had to completely redo my mod list. And my game crashes significantly more bit just in game but in the creations menu. :/

[@KngHrts2]

Geez... These fixes are fantastic but should have been implemented years ago. The new paid mod program, while excellent for some modders, seems to spit in the face of the majority of the modding ethos that has kept this game alive for over a decade, and makes me think that after the success of the AE, they thought they'd be able to get greedy and milk even more money. Also, these paid mods are a disaster for PC and Xbox users because almost all mods require compatibility patches, and these are going to be a nightmare to try and do, AND PS4/5 users are screwed because Sony won't allow external assets, so of the 7 current "Creations," only 2 are available to PS users. Also, these new creations will disable achievements, which BGS doesn't make very clear. Bravo, Bethesda! You are truly breathtakingly stupid in your greed and idiocy. I think I'm done with Skyrim for the foreseeable future, especially when studios like CDPR are out here trying to improve the experience for gamers and listening to feedback.

[@Apoqsi]

My stance is that mod authors shouldn’t worry at all about patches for the paid creations. Not anything they can reasonably do and it should be viewed as the user choosing to install incompatible mods. As for a big change this system needs, we NEED a way for users on all platforms to be able to disable individual paid creations or some clever workaround. BGS can feel free to keep AE content forced on, but all of this new content should be shown in the load order individually.

[@ASavageEye]

@@Apoqsi Anything from AE Creation Club can be removed from your game manually. It literally just requires you to remove the BSA and ESM file from your DATA folder. You can even just CUT them and save them in a separate folder in case you ever want to put them back. It literally takes less than a minute.

[@Apoqsi]

@SavageEyes Oh, I am fully aware. Two major flaws with what seems like such a simple solution though: 1. Most mod users don’t understand that and it should be a built in functionality 2. Not possible on consoles Hence why I said “we need a way for users on all platforms.”

[@tovubek8287]

The update has created a lot more problems than just a normal update. Just updating SKSE won't work SkyUI is now broken. Dll files needs to be updated. ESL plugins also needs a patch. This is a bigger modapocalypse than the AE update

[@Apoqsi]

@tovubek8287 Not even close. SkyUI has already been fixed by a patch mod. Only some .dll plugins need to be updated, many have been updated, many authors are in the process of updating, and the SKSE/AL teams are still seeing if they can workaround it. These mod authors themselves have said this isn’t nearly as bad as AE. It’s not ideal, but nowhere near that situation.

[@nemesisundead83]

I could've sworn that the "Anniversary edition" made everything free this is ridiculous

[@Apoqsi]

Not really, considering you had to buy the Anniversary Upgrade.

[@teagueh]

Well, I’m 75 years old and a couple of days ago I got my new Xbox Series X. I downloaded some of my older games, Including Skyrim. The update loaded as soon as I started the game. I haven’t played it for over two years. I was scared that my original mods would be gone. And, they were missing. So, I decided to go and see if they were in the Creations section. I was overwhelmed when I opened the CC. So much content, yikes! But, after awhile, I found most of the content I needed to resume my various games. (I have about 20 characters over two accounts - mine and my wife’s.) So, after finding most of my older mods + some new mods and my CC mods, I’m back in business. Bethesda, you rock. I’m so surprised with this update. I have never been so impressed with a game before. Now, I still have something to do, to relieve the pain of old age. Gaming keeps me sharp. Thanks People!

[@Apoqsi]

Glad you got things back up and running and hope you enjoy playing Skyrim again!

[@alaskacpu]

Bethesda was stupid to do this. It was a money grab off the backs of modders. 💞

[@peterdeng8047]

I just finished my Finals and wanted some hours to relieve in Skyrim. However, thanks to Bethesda's nasty update, I ended up spending 2 hours fixing the mods and by the time I finally got it to work (still some mods do not work for the new version), I was just too tired to continue, and was really disappointed. I think Bethesda really does not know how hard it is to mod Skyrim and make the software work together with the mods, and they just destroyed all of my effort of working by releasing an update with tiny improvements to the game. If they do that again updating, I am going to give up the game. After all, games are here to bring you happiness. If it makes your life harder, why bother?

[@Apoqsi]

There is nothing Bethesda can do to prevent updates breaking script extender mods. You need to block updates if you don’t want updates to break things. Just how modding works for every game unfortunately. I cover how to block updates at the end of my downgrade video (my most recent upload).

[@edstar83]

You're not upset because you clearly haven't thought it through. What about the broken mods from mod creators who no longer mod for skyrim? And even if they charge $1 per mod, some people have over 500 mods installed, are you really going to pay $500 to mod Skyrim?

[@Apoqsi]

Not at all how this system is going to work. I’d suggest you watch the video, as not just anyone can charge for mods. Pre-existing mods cannot be out on the platform. Paid creations cannot depend on any other mod/creation. So if a mod author wants to make a script extender mod, for example? Can’t be put onto this system. An overwhelming amount of mod authors have already come out against this system saying they will never charge for their mods, others said they will try to join the program but will still make free mods if they get approved, etc. Again, this isn’t a system where just any and all mods can be charged for. This is essentially just a slightly less restrictive Creation Club. The only one who hasn’t thought it through is you, because you’re using your emotions to conjure up theoretical situations not based in reality.

[@SamHell-wr8bi]

I can't find anyone who is talking about the issues I'm having with this new update. 1. Constant crashing in creations menu. 2. Everything I've ever downloaded permanently in my library. 3. Growing ghost space. I'm deleting mods the correct way, yet my ghost space has gone from 45mb before the update to close to 200mb now. Why is this happening?

[@solly119119]

Hmmm ... I've had no issues with any of your 3 points. About the worst was having to reinstall all the mods in my library. Not a big deal. Not calling B.S. necessarily, but am wondering if you're flaming Bethesda just to flame them.

[@minniefuddgamer3822]

My game was crashing right after Bethesda studios did everything they said on the page to fix and was still having issue. I know most of the mods I had were from Creation Club so did something that most PC players wouldn't do. I deleted everything to do with Skyrim in the Steam file. Yes everything along with the game and reloaded. That fixed my issue. I think it was a mod that was old that I had but from Nexus I am not sure. I also disabled all of my Nexus mods before I updated the first time. I feel for you.

[@SamHell-wr8bi]

No, I'm not flaming bethesda, I'm having real issues. On xbox.

[@ThatGuy-hl2kk]

That "ghost space" thing is an issue for me too. I'm on XBox, too. It's ridiculous. I have 100Mbs of space that I can't use, even after I remove ALL my mods...

[@TrC450]

I would be more optimistic if they worded this thing like. We are going to make finding and installing mods service as intuitive and stable as possible. Creators may sell their content after content is approved and we will take take a small royalty for continuing and improving the system. As it stands I think they are trying to make their thing convient alternative by breaking most the of the mods and take majority of profit from these paid mods. It will never be perfect either due censorship.

[@AudreyStryder222]

Since the update my game just flat out wont work. If i start a new game i get the walk in place bug, which im givin to understand is a load order problem. Id delete mods but now i cant even open the mod page without my whole system crashing immediately. Its been like 13 years- i wish they would have just left it the fuck alone. My game was perfect before they FUCKED the whole thing up and now i cant even TRY to fix it.

[@Apoqsi]

Are you getting any errors of any kind when launching the game or loading a save game? Did you check your mod manager for updates for all of your mods? Do you have Engine Fixes? (if so, temporarily disable the achievements fix). Any and all updates unfortunately require SKSE64 mods to be updated, so after the next few patches to resolve issues with the new update, they should stop updating the game again. When they do, most mods will get updated quickly. At that point, when you get your game working, you always follow the steps to block updates in this video to avoid issues in the future.

[@AudreyStryder222]

@@Apoqsi I play on Xbox. By mod manager I'm assuming you mean the mod page both in game and on the home menu- as I stated in my original comment trying to open either of them results in the immediate crash of my system every single time. As I also stated, before the update everything worked PERFECTLY. Since I can't even open the mod page I obviously havnt added, rearranged, deleted or disabled anything. It just doesn't work anymore. And no, it doesn't say error or anything anywhere.

[@Apoqsi]

@@AudreyStryder222 Considering most people with issues after updates are PC users, this video covers primarily PC issues, and you made no mention of console/Xbox in your initial comment… my assumption was that you were on PC. My apologies. Now, since I know you’re in Xbox. Are you able to see the Creations menu for a split second before it crashes? If so, you’ll want to quickly press the button to open the load order page (should be “Y”). You need to time it to register right before it crashes. That should prevent the crash.

[@AudreyStryder222]

@@Apoqsi thank you kindly, I shall try. 🙏

[@AudreyStryder222]

@@Apoqsi YOOOOOOO IT WORKED AND I FIXED MY LOAD ORDER ENOUGH TO GET PASSED THE OPENING SEQUENCE 🙌 ❤🧡💛💚💙💜❤🧡💛💚 THANK YOU DIVINES BLESS YOU

[@steve323f]

Cos I'm getting old, sitting at the pc can get very uncomfortable for a while, so I tend to stick to the console (PS5) edition. Still, nice to see. Great in depth upload apoqsi. Cheers fella. 👌👌

[@vergilsgamingchair8772]

I dunno why, but it's always nice to see an older gamer. Keep it up pal!

[@Apoqsi]

Appreciate it as always Steve! 😊

[@steve323f]

@@vergilsgamingchair8772 I'm 44 buddy, I started off on the Zx spectrum many years ago and have always had the latest console and I build and upgrade my own pc. But I got injured quite bad whilst serving in the forces. So my body is older than it kinda should be. But I'll still be a gamer if I make it to 80 😂. Thanks for the comment fella. It made my day 😁

[@steve323f]

@@Apoqsi stay good. 👌👌

[@SetoShadowVT]

I have seen a lot of videos on this subject but I am glad Bethesda has finally learned from not only the last time they tried to implement paid mods in 2017 but learned to not break existing mods this time and in the future.

[@ajdinyavuz7575]

they did break existing mods even whole mod lists

[@SetoShadowVT]

@@ajdinyavuz7575 that didn't last long

[@randymarshislorde]

I really had no opinion on this update when I first caught wind of it, I didn't want to make a judgement until I had all the info. But it's a 0/10 for me due to my initial experience with the new "Creations" menu. I have Anniversary edition on PS5, I had nearly filled my DL limit (something like 96 mods I wanna say) and I had a hundred or so hours into a character using my mod setup when the update dropped. It's likely a problem with one or more of the mods I already had installed; but from day 1 to the end of day 2 following the update, I attempted no less than 40 times to open the creations menu, and invariably every single time I attempted to do so, it promptly crashed the entire game and sent me back to my PS5 home. As a result, I have now uninstalled Skyrim, and due to my initial problems with PlayStation's already very limited setup for mods plus the new continuous crashing from the new system; I'm about 98% of the way to completely quitting Skyrim entirely, at least until I build a new PC, and I'd say even then it's unlikely.

[@benjaminnoname484]

If u hit search and leave it until it loads in it will work... A little worksround

[@bunnguyenchannel3154]

What is the house texture or something else - mod at 2:27? the texture look nice

[@nimarus3118]

I'm happy that I didn't update AND I can launch through script extender. So I can just ignore this garbage.

[@saltyscholar193]

Puredark shows that the modding community will pay for mods regardless what they scream and yell..

[@cledpham3369]

I noticed that in the categories of houses and miscellaneous, the lists are sorted alphabetically, and the houses stop at letter D, and misc at B. Any idea why?

[@Apoqsi]

Interesting! I’ll have to hop in-game and take a look.

[@cledpham3369]

I keep hoping they'll populate more each day (like they're adding more a bit at a time), but as the days pass and nothing changes, I'm starting to lose hope. Surely there are homes that start with other letters besides A thru D, right?

[@matthewhearne7200]

[@Timmy51m]

I think it's great. Firstly because I think it's fantastic that creators can have the opportunity to earn some money for their work. Secondly because the creations are all standalone. One of the biggest put offs about modding for me is the complexity of seemingly endless patches for one thing to work with another, the time you need to invest just to use a handful of mods is sometimes ridiculous to me, so I mostly don't bother with anything other than textures. I don't even use USSEP. I'm not having a pop at mod authors or the modding system in general, it's all good, just too much hassle for my tastes. As to paid mods, it's just a choice, buy or don't buy.

[@markp2085]

I am so use to playing the nolvus mod pack, that even this gameplay being shown looks so baren. I am so glad that I prevented skyrim from updating. And if I mess up one day and accidently update it, I have it backed up.

[@chetd63]

Nice to finally see a balanced overview of what is actually happening rather than the usual crying and nashing of teeth. Subscribed.

[@xplay751]

The only good thing in my eyes is that they doubled the plug in limit. But they need to stop updating it and breaking all the skse assets,I get it skse was already ready but not the address library

[@Apoqsi]

They’ll likely stop updates for the foreseeable future after they fix the issues caused by the update itself.

[@xplay751]

That's why I didn't update yet,I'm going to wait a while to see if any other update is coming,I'm currently running a modded playthrough on the steam deck and it's easy to trick it into thinking it's updated

[@SuperMage21]

While a lot of good happened with this, it also totally broke a lot of mods on PC. :(

[@solosailorsv8065]

RE Paid Creators: Basic economics, if there is an income stream, it will be corrupted if possible. "Possible" is almost always just a matter of difficulty Managing an income stream, necessitates extreme limitations so give the Moderators a break, they are up against some really devious people/corporations Skyrim Rocks !

[@AccidentalFriendlyFire]

Wait, wait, wait. They actually worked with modders to design this? There's definite hope, then. I'm concerned about Fallout 4 more right now since I've got around 300 mods installed, but after i finish my modded playthrough there I'm going back to Skyrim to see how it is now, and at least initially this sounds promising. By the time i get there it'll be fully fleshed out and hopefully the bugs (and warts) removed...

[@garryame4008]

I hope there are mods worth the money put on there. More like the Trade company, less of the gun mods.

[@bunnguyenchannel3154]

Nice video, what is your ENB used?

[@real8oy]

Any way to fix ui mods completely messing up the new ui? If you have any mod that affect UI completely brick the mod ui, even some graphic mods are broken. On xbox and ive had to completely redo my load order around 10 times due to mods affecting either the mod cap previously needed for the old ui not saying they do or a ui mod that i dont have downloaded somehow being active.

[@momsspaghetti4064]

On XSX. The update didn't break our mods unless we uninstalled Skyrim and reinstall it to fix Bethnet. But why the F would we so that. 😂

[@Kavou]

I don't believe that we are going to see the modapocalypse pt2. It's all and all a very messy update as all updates from Bethesda are, AE is already getting many of the core mods back and working, but I think the most important part that the community cares about is that Bethesda is always so aggresive with their updates.

[@davidjuby7392]

I have just given up on playing skyrim, it is too difficult with bethesda working hard to make it impossible.

[@Apoqsi]

Well positive note, as covered in this video... creations no longer require game updates. 😅

[@davidjuby7392]

sadly too little too late and I will sure as fuck never buy another bethesda game@@Apoqsi

[@Apoqsi]

Not even if The Elder Scrolls VI looks like a 11/11? 🫣 /s

[@davidjuby7392]

do you think that they will stop doing this shit and not double down on what ever they put out next, if they can even get another game out after replacing all their skilled employees with activists. You are just enabling this behavior to go on.@@Apoqsi

[@jakesullivan-qk9zd]

You know originally i was bummed about hearing bout this update because i was just installing manually all the nolvus skyrim mods for 1.6.640 compatibility however after hearing about these new features im thinking hm this might actually be worth just upgrading, i like the idea of ultra wide support

[@sayuas4293]

Ultrawide support already exists from mods

[@Apoqsi]

@sayuas4293 It’s objectively better if you don’t need mods for basic features. The majority of Skyrim owners also don’t mod their game.

[@ImYourBias]

I always wondered why people were still on the previous update still of all things. I understood 1.5.97, but not 1.6.3xx. However, I know a few authors of some of my SKSE plugins have quit since 1.6.640 released so my update is hinging upon them. Some come with scripts so it isn’t a matter of disabling a .dll. Of course, I nuke my saves frequently because modding > playing lmao so it ain’t that deep ig.

[@goxy287]

Conclusion, could've been worse :D

[@Apoqsi]

Could’ve been much worse 😅

[@xgensean]

Basicly, all my non item, texture mods are usless with the update.

[@sunnythecrayfish1834]

Was waiting for a new one. Great as always

[@neil_mch]

How much do the modders who fix their outrageous bugs get? My guess if the middle finger, as always.

[@johnniedelta8389]

On xbox the new mod manager is a whole mess. It scrambles the mod order everytime a new mod is added or deleted. Plus, translation esp now need their own slot, which puts the actual limit below 150. You CAN load more than 150 mods but when starting the game, the fucken manager will deactivate half of your mods and, of course, scramble them. Plus, all UI mods cannot be used until they are updated by the modders, since they render the new manager inoperable. Just crap, worse than before.

[@celticwarrior5261]

It’s kind of crazy that they ruined Skyrim a full 12 years after the release date. The modding community kept these games alive, and now they are in jeopardy. Bethesda's future as a company is entirely dependent on how well ES6 performs. If it is a flop, then they are done.

[@jfiffl7]

Pro consol Update, Though Never that thrilled for the extra missing GB's of memory

[@gamersmyrf4885]

Thanks for all the info. And your skyrim looks pretty!

[@TheOnlyHatchet101]

Microshaft bought them because they feel that their company has made enough money and definitely want Bethesda to operate as a separate non-profit entity of Microshaft. This being the same Gate's principle for ALL other acquisitions by said company.

[@Perun_God_of_Thunder]

There is fix for SkyUI... mod called "SkyUI SE - Difficulty Persistence Fix" 🙂

[@keithe3045]

They’ve been trying for years to throttle free mods from various sites.

[@Apoqsi]

No, they haven’t.

[@spartansheart808]

Creations menu option doesn't appear at all for me on the series x even though I have met all system and purchase requirements. I even deleted all of my old files across my Xbox one, series s, and x. Even deleted and downloaded the game 9 times. BGS is freaking useless.

[@dcgamephotography5533]

I might have got some of the mods were it not for the fact that on Xbox I'm limited to 5GB or 150 mods. So this paid mods thing will make no difference to me at all. They'll need to change the mod limits first

[@mossy3565]

No, Bethesda, I don't want to buy your weird cryptocurrency

[@odinson1497]

So I can use the new creation club once to download the new mods but once I start a new game and any time I try to load into it again it just puts the original creation screen up and just says loading no matter how long I wait and if I try to disable a mod it says I have to delete it but won't disable or delete the only way I can get the new creation club to work again is to clear the reserved space and start over can anyone relay this to Bethesda please

[@WilliamLanceHancock]

To me Skyrim is the Golden Goose. You know the story where the couple got a golden goose that laid golden eggs and got rich then thought they could get even more if the opened up the goose to get the gold inside and instead ended up with nothing. With this update they are getting very close to letting their greed kill the golden goose. They just can't help themselves. Leave the games we love alone. They are making new games that are crap *cough Starfield, and burning the bridge behind them. For the 1st time I am considering GOG. Either way I think Bethesda has been taking a page out of George Lucas' book and changing Skyrim much in the same way he kept editing the original trilogy.

[@bringerd1936]

I am currently unable to access my creation club menu and mod list menu they are just gone There's nowhere to be seen on the main

[@Apoqsi]

Both of those menus were launched into the abyss by Bethesda with the Creations menu and are now inaccessible on downgraded versions of the game (considering the backend no longer exists).

[@bringerd1936]

@@Apoqsi So what should I do then i updated the game and it's the current version Why aren't the menus there Don't tell me I'm going to have to reinstall

[@rodrigonavarro8030]

hey, what mods do you use for your game? do you have a list?I thought it looked beautiful

[@Apoqsi]

It’s the Phoenix Flavour modlist, I have yet to have time to redo my own since I got my new PC. Maybe one day 🥺

[@sayuas4293]

Yeah this is going to be so good. The next Elder Scrolls and Fallout games will need you to pay $100-200 for wabbajack modlists. Great, makes sense you're happy about it.

[@Apoqsi]

This isn’t going to noticeably affect the free and open modding community. It is just a less intrusive Creation Club.

[@Zigi1987]

ES6 is in same fantasy world as GTA 6 😂

[@amskon5897]

I'm all for Bethesda trying to make more money and I'm all for mod authors wanting to make some money too. Love Bethesda games and the love of the mod community making these games still relevant. I just hope it doesn't get abused by Bethesda.

[@jordanmorris8480]

Even the hair mod on Xbox doesn't work it just shows bugged out and I don't know why or how is doesn't work

[@christophermosier3754]

I have updated my mods since the upgrade and still get the racemenu mismatch error message

[@Apoqsi]

You installed the RaceMenu update released yesterday?

[@sayuas4293]

Hilarious that you think that Bethesda wouldn't spit in the faces of modders and its players, it has been doing so for a long time

[@Apoqsi]

How so? I’d love to hear an example, considering they work directly with the mod community - including the script extender team.

[@Druagr]

I would sooner roll up a tenner and smoke it than PAY for mods BOO!!

[@Jade_Callisto]

Wheels of Lull is on this thing, despite the rules put in place.

[@Apoqsi]

Not only is it listed as a free creation… it’s also done so with the approval of TrainWiz. So I don’t see how this goes against the rules whatsoever.

[@jimcalhoun361]

Now I know that I shouldn't upgrade my game for a few game updates

[@VHSJayden]

Your ENB looks gorgeous. What is it?

[@Apoqsi]

Serio's ENB - Cathedral

[@ShinDangaioh]

How about OldRim? The old Skyrim' There has been no waves on that front.

[@Apoqsi]

The game was remastered for a reason. It is outdated and running on an ancient 32-bit version of the engine. It would be like expecting updates for Fallout 3 & New Vegas in 2023.

[@ShinDangaioh]

@@Apoqsi That's not what I'm suggesting. I was thinking about going back to OldRim and just using mods on that game. Don't have to worry about Bethesda releasing an update that will break the mods that are loaded

[@Apoqsi]

I misread that hard, lol. My apologies. We can blame the lack of sleep. As for going back to LE? Depends on whether you're fine with the selection of mods, most modern mods not getting backported, and stability issues especially with larger modlists. My best suggestion would be sticking to 1.5.97 using my downgrade video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpzCqpmYisZmm9E

[@ShinDangaioh]

@@Apoqsi 50/50 on that one. I have a bunch of mods that didn't get ported up to Special

[@kasmidjan]

As days Passes Todd Haword want Us To Leave Skyrim by adding Update with cost of Ruined Mods SKSE

[@Apoqsi]

They gave the SKSE team early access to allow them to prepare for the update.

[@burialkultofficial4366]

Just down grade! Easy and the fun continues. Look I get it. Money. They want more so they can continue making games, but we didn’t ask for this having a broken mod list sucks. Luckily like I said it’s easy to down grade and turn off updates. Easy save. Also we’ve all played Skyrim 100x and modding is the only way to keep investing our selves in a 11 year old game. Any how… yeah who cares.

[@matthewpatterson4144]

If I pay for a mod . I should be GARUNTEED. no crash.

[@Apoqsi]

You don’t even get that guarantee with the game. 😅

[@JustAllinOneResource]

It's amazing how companies will do everything they can to do the one thing they hate most of all which is promote piracy. Do you seriously think people who have brains will pay for mods? They will simply steal them like they do everything else when people see mods to never be paid for but instead have an accompanying DONATE button. Bethesda wants to control all mods, and they do not want to see modders making free mods for their games simply because they want the money, and most of all Bethesda wants to own all the rights to those mods SO they can use this content in every game they own. Modders, why are you selling your souls to a company which is using you to pad their pockets, and steal your hard work? The thing is guys, your free mods on their system become Bethesda's property. GET your mods off of Bethesda's Store. Keep them on other free sites, and PUT a DONATE button up for those who wish to support you.

[@ivangomez962]

My skse is not working after update it says failed to locate appropriate address library

[@Apoqsi]

Watch the mod situation section near the end of the video for an explanation. I’ll have some tutorials soon to help!

[@45sticky]

@@Apoqsi unfortunately since the update my mod list is broken. Haven’t been able to play since the update. I have tried some workarounds, and nothing works. My level of frustration is at a 10, I just wanna play the game.

[@Apoqsi]

@45sticky I’ll try my best to get one of the tutorials out tonight!

[@45sticky]

@@Apoqsi that would be great, because at this point, I don’t know what to do.

[@maulressurected4405]

It is what it is. I won't buy the creations plus I launch the game with skse so I couldn't buy them anyways. It will come to fallout 4, wish Bethesda would learn from their mistakes Fallout 76 and Starfield. I hope they don't try to monetize Skywind and Skyblivion, the only thing I'm looking forward to since Bethesda has nothing to do with it. I wish Bethesda gave their other games the Skyrim love, Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallout 3 need attention. New Vegas does to but that was Obsidian. I do think is shady that the paid content isn't working as advertised the dungeon pack one the items has a broken enchant where it doesn't work. The paid "creations" if they don't work or have issues they should be required to fix them or Bethesda has to. When I played on Xbox many of the player homes were hit and miss. The designs were great but had plaques and other items floating in air. My favorite other furniture stuck in the bed.

[@andrewyorke3352]

Deleted Skyrim its dead mods was the only thing bringing me back and we all know free mods will disappear over time and they will do the same with starfeild and fallout I'm out

[@Apoqsi]

Free mods aren’t going anywhere.

[@BlitzHavenDirEnGrey6]

My weird question is: How do I make my Skyrim look like it does in this video?

[@Apoqsi]

It's just the Pheonix Flavour modlist, as I am still working on mine. You can find it here: www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/14223

[@markp2085]

@@Apoqsi This is a fun mod list. I have Pheonix Flavor, Nolvus, Auriels Dream, and skyrim VR. They all offer a different experience.

[@neil_mch]

Bethesda trying to pip off customers is nothing new.

[@TheRamenGhost]

They screwed it all up

[@samcurtis9568]

Will the mods still affect (lock) achievements/trophies when activated? As the way they have it now, it's confused me on what's creation club and whats a mod (since it used to be only creation club stuff you paid for) and I'm currently trying to get achievements 🙂

[@Apoqsi]

The new paid content blocks achievements. But if you’re on Steam, I also covered the issue with Steam achievements near the end of the video with a workaround.

[@samcurtis9568]

@@Apoqsi I'm only on console 😔 Thank you for answering my question 🙂

[@ClockworkGearhead]

It'll go down exactly like it did before, too. They'll close down the mod system, keep the mods, then release them with the game. Just stop supporting this.

[@nightmarekali111]

Paying for mods is what it is, playing without mods in this game is unplayable, and that's why I think that Bethesda has destroyed its product, I doubt that anyone would buy mods where mods have always been free, for me the game is unplayable at this point. you can't mod for free.

[@Apoqsi]

You can downgrade and block updates if you don’t want them: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpzCqpmYisZmm9Esi=xIixiAnjRbUegDTC

[@DavidKnight33]

Would you say this is basically Bethesda working on eliminating NexusMods and SKSE etc?

[@Apoqsi]

I discussed this in the video, but to put it here as well… certainly not. I explained why in the video. 😊

[@edwinbetancourt3958]

​@@Apoqsifor now...don't underestimate goliaths of greed.

[@terryscott2007]

This is testing ground for the new Elderscrolls game when it eventually comes out, because why keep updating a game this old 😟

[@davidchavez3937]

with new xbox one mods updated ..two gods invincable rings .armor overhaul .in abanded prison is not found to name a few mods that dont work in new updated version updates mods edition 2023

[@wolfenwingsable]

Nice info. Might have to re-download now. Definitely not as bad as I was fearing.

[@sev5348]

I thought this was going to be a tutorial on how to fix the game after the update

[@Apoqsi]

How so? As neither the title or thumbnail suggest that. That being said, you can find my downgrade tutorial linked in the pinned comment or on my channel page as the most recent upload.

[@FakeFizzPool]

Absolutely decent video bruh thanks

[@Apoqsi]

Appreciate it

[@TheBitt89]

Great video - You make many great points! Thank you!

[@Apoqsi]

Thanks for watching!

[@jmurray2018]

As great as these fixes are have they fixed the Trinity Restored Quest ?

[@Apoqsi]

Now you're just expecting too much! 😅

[@jmurray2018]

@@Apoqsi I know lol I’ve always been aware of their ability to give us fix’s we didn’t even know we needed and failed to give us ones we wanted