Skyrim MYSTERY - Who Created the Dragonborn Prophecy? - A Theory - Elder Scrolls Lore

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In our latest Elder Scrolls video we discuss the potential origins of the dragonborn prophecy.
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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is an open world action role-playing video game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It is the fifth main installment in The Elder Scrolls series, following The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, and was released worldwide for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on November 11, 2011.
The game's main story revolves around the player character and their quest to defeat Alduin the World-Eater, a dragon who is prophesied to destroy the world. The videogame is set two hundred years after the events of Oblivion, and takes place in the fictional province of Skyrim. Over the course of the game, the player completes quests and develops the character by improving skills. The game continues the open world tradition of its predecessors by allowing the player to travel anywhere in the game world at any time, and to ignore or postpone the main storyline indefinitely.
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[@royriley6282]

Now that ole herma mora knows all 9000 ways to skin a horker, he is truly unstoppable.

[@CRYOKnox]

Don't underestimate the Horkerthread they have weapons of mass destruction... Or use gas or idk SOMETHING dangerous like a realy bad stench...

[@avatareternal3204]

He also knows the 100 ways to use a Falmer ear.

[@CRYOKnox]

@@QualityPen of course not, what are you talking about?

[@phatbassanchor]

@@QualityPen No, Mora does not get to the Cloud District very often my friend! LOL :)

[@Scotttjt]

As long as it isn't *over* 9000, we'll be fine.

[@Snairster]

It was Nazeem, he plotted every single step the Dragonborn took, just for the sole reason of distracting the Dragonborn from not seeing that Nazeem in fact, does not go to the cloud district. He wrote it in shame and humility. That's why he's so pompous.

[@DragonGunzDorian]

I'm glad I know not to subscribe to you. lol

[@Snairster]

@@DragonGunzDorian I only kill upon request, non biased towards my name.

[@CRYOKnox]

Do you get to the cloud district very often? kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXuVfZdqlpKEnMU

[@antoneopitts2212]

He pulled a black zetsu

[@RJLbwb]

True FACT, you can't kill Nazeem. Clearly Nazeem is the manifestation of Anu as shown by Nazeem's world view is static; Nazeem will never accept the Dragonborn can walk up five steps to the Cloud District.

[@Dobbinator817]

If herma mora is all knowing then why did he need to steal the knowledge of the skaal, i think he's nothing but a hoarder of other peoples gained knowledge, a broker of information, limited in his own capacity to learn independently

[@brlxnnx]

I was thinking the same thing after Miraak's quest. Also, what did he gain and why did he feel it necessary to kill the shaman? Much to think about

[@Daniele-PierreDuLac]

I feel like he already knew the knowledge. He just wanted to see if the Dragonborn would obey.

[@Burned-Legate]

Think of Mora as a librarian. He still needs to collect the books to fill out his knowledge, but he is in the know about everything within his library. Mora needs agents to gather the knowledge from Mundus because he, as a Daedra, has no direct influence there, he can only observe, and the Skaal know he is watching and thus work to hide it. Furthermore, the secrets of the Skall all encompass things that Mora can't fundamentally grasp as he is not mortal. How to live off the land, where to hunt, respecting the nature around you, etc. Mora can collect this knowledge, he could reiterate it afterwards, but he doesn't really "understand" it. However, the knowledge of Oblivion, the secrets of the universe far beyond the grasp of mortals? That is his wheelhouse, and in that he is an expert. It's this knowledge that he shared with Xarxes to write the Oghma Infinium, and the secrets contained in Black Books that drive most mortals insane.

[@Dobbinator817]

@@Daniele-PierreDuLac but the shamen said the skaal have long kept their knowledge out of moras grasp and considering the role mora plays in skaal religion, this wasn't the first time he had tried to take it

[@tylerharris9847]

@@Dobbinator817 I Believe since he is a daedra lord of knowledge he is seemingly all knowing but with knowledge and time new things are created all the time thus he is a hoarder and is ultimately his weakness knowledge for the sake of just knowing is ultimately a waste as with all daedra lords they are held within the confines of the sphere (their purpose) and cannot escape that nature as they are not our ancestors as the aedra do change outside of their's with their help with creation of nirn.

[@retbookers]

"Cooooome closer. Baaaaaask in my presence."

[@amonducius]

Best pick-up line ever.

[@gregorypavlunenko4953]

I think fudgemuppet read the black books too many times.

[@keithstimpyys3497]

I think he's on meth 😂

[@5226-p1e]

Praise herma mora! For he will become the god of deadra once he consumes enough knowledge as knowledge begets power.

[@sirpsychosecksi4953]

@@5226-p1e knowledge is power i know what i know

[@hammerite6418]

52262 praise hircine

[@zeuscanoe]

So, I’ve stumbled on a possible easter egg. Paarthunax, the dragon, and Pertinax, the Roman emperor; one is a dragon who you are supposed to assassinate (according to the Blades) and one is a Roman emperor who was assassinated three months into his rule by the Praetorian guard (who are pretty much the Blades) during the Year of the Five Emperors. I thought it was possibly important to note because of historical parallels could possibly be used to predict future content.

[@mileonaslionclaw2525]

“And even sheogorath wouldn’t be mad enough to mess with him currently” Debatable. We’re talking about the Daedric prince of madness. Doing crazy stupid shit is kind of his thing.

[@wafflingmean4477]

Yeah to be honest I'd expect Sheogorath to challenge Hermaeus Mora to a trivia contest.

[@MetalKing1417]

@@wafflingmean4477 Probably win too.

[@razeyy_]

dont forget about haskil

[@megspradlin7345]

@@razeyy_ I'd kind of like to see Haskill get unhinged and deliver a can of whoop ass unto Hermaeus Mora. The thought is highly entertaining.

[@Springfield1191]

"When misrule takes its place in the eight corners of the world" - refers to the events of The Elder Scrolls: Arena, the simulacrum of Jagar Tharn, the eight corners refer to the provinces outside Cyrodiil. "When the Brass Tower walks and time is reshaped" - refers to the events of Daggerfall and the Warp in the West. "When the thrice blessed fail and the Red Tower trembles"- refers to the events of Morrowind with the fall of the tribunal, the death of Daggoth Ur and the destruction of the Heart of Lorkhan. "When the Dragonborn ruler loses his throne and the White Tower falls"- refers to Oblivion with the ending of the Septim dynasty of emperors, later the Great War and the taking of the Imperial City by the Aldmeri Dominion. "When the Snow Tower lies sundered, kingless and bleeding"- refers to the split between the two factions in Skyrim, the death of High King Torryg and the civil war. "The World Eater wakes and the wheels turn upon the Last Dragonborn"- Alduin's return, obviously; wheels turning refers to how the Dragonborn is allowed no choice in the matter of their destiny but to see it all through to the end. Their fate as the Dragonborn was a pre-determined event that they are unable to escape and so must give in to destiny and battle Alduin to the death.

[@adarshkamoda9183]

That makes sense, given Paarthurnax's debate with the Dragonborn on why he or she should kill Alduin. Furthermore, Paarthurnax says the following:"Hmm. How to explain in your tongue? The dov have words for such things that joorre do not. It is… an artifact from outside time. It does not exist, but it has always existed. Rah wahlaan. They are… hmm… fragments of creation. The Kelle… Elder Scrolls, as you name them, they have often been used for prophecy. Yes, your prophecy comes from an Elder Scroll. But this is only a small part of their power. Zofaas suleyk." The Dragonborn's prophecy came from an Elder Scroll. Heck, even the song of the Dragonborn says: "And the Scrolls have foretold, Of black wings in the cold, When brothers wage war, come unfurled, Alduin, Bane of Kings, ancient shadow unbound."

[@cary1056]

I'm not saying that you're wrong, in fact I think you're very much correct, I just feel the need to point out that it is "and the wheel turns upon the last dragonborn." The wheel. Singular. Possibly refering to the universe? For the same reasons you said, the whole pre-determined fate thing. I just thought it would make more sense if it is referring to the wheel that is the universe, rather than a wheel in the same sense as a gear.

[@Springfield1191]

It doesn't rhyme though. All the good prophecies are supposed to rhyme....

[@adarshkamoda9183]

@@cary1056 I think you're being reasonable. Think of Nirn as at the center of a circle. In the circle are eight spokes for the Eight Divines that gave their power to create Nirn at the centre. In between the spokes are the planes of Oblivion where the Daedra reside. Outside the Wheel is Aetherius. Hence, the Wheel turns upon the Last Dragonborn. The universe aligns to push the Last Dragonborn into their place in the Elder Scrolls V.

[@cary1056]

@@adarshkamoda9183 Thank you! That's exactly what I was saying!😄 I just didn't have time to write it out. Very well put!

[@mostevilcoral6568]

It's a cool theory, though I think it's much more viable that the prophecy derived from the dragon Elder Scroll, written as soon as Alduin was cast into time, and likely deciphered by the very clever man himself that cast Alduin into time. It is however, very plausible that Herma Mora knew that the prophecy would unfold, and certainly positioned himself perfectly so as to be able to exploit the Dragonborn, just as Sheogorath did to The champion of Cyrodiil, and Azura did to the Nerevarrine.

[@valeclaw1697]

I believe Sai Sahan names the person who made Alduin's Wall in Dragonholds Pre-Quest, so maybe it was a legend from Akavir. We know so little about Akavir.

[@Sage1990x]

I don't think the Dragonborn would become Mora's servant. They are literally born of Dragonblood, they could achieve so much more without being stuck in Apocrypha and Mora's sight.

[@dmeads5663]

@@gptechnologiesmangalore6909 then how could the Dragonborn travel back to Tamriel?

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

Literally Miraak

[@ChristianAuditore14]

​@@noahtylerpritchett2682mirak was weak, but mora was weaker lmao he literally couldn't deal with mirak who had to hid form dragon priests and dragons.

[@phatbassanchor]

You actually admire the Woodland Man, the Wretched Abyss, that old Herma Mora don't you, Drew? While your argument is sound, I must choose to believe otherwise because my dragonborn story continues. My path never lied with Mora. He is but a tool, a path to end Miraak, a path that is traveled at great cost to end an imminent threat. Mora seasons his perpetual lies with just enough truth to make them believable. Don't fall prey to Mora's infernal schemes and machinations like Septimus and Miraak before him. Free your mind and the rest will follow. Adventure on friends :)

[@bryanmanuel4945]

Indeed,you have the wisdom of Paarthurnax.A Dragon must not be slave especially to the enemy of his father.

[@johanneos3157]

@Sam Guevenne Quite ironic how we're hearing this from a daedra

[@realzachfluke1]

Thank you, Wiseman. Adventure on.

[@mephistophelesthesilentchi3446]

Prophecy speaks of what may be, not what should be.

[@phatbassanchor]

@Sam Guevenne Khajiit has skooma if you have coin. :)

[@worldman3218]

My guess would be Hermaeus Mora Or Akatosh himself. But it might just be a mortal who opened an elder scroll.

[@Isilsivayawish]

Didn't they use an Elder Scroll to send Alduin through time? Couldn't that same Elder Scroll reveal the prophecy? That would be a pretty simple explanation for it.

[@realzachfluke1]

Lt Dolomite Occam’s Razor

[@insaincaldo]

@@Isilsivayawish Yes the Elder Scroll of dragons, I have no idea if they are even to be understood as "written" on a topic.

[@hammerite6418]

Probably not akatosh as he created alduin as a contingency plan if too many towers were destoryed so he could eat mundus and the world could start again

[@vishishify]

Could this mean that Mora is also the person sending those letters with word wall locations?

[@BDM276]

That makes sense. The "friend" can observe you shouting in dimensions in oblivion so there has to be a superhuman aspect to that friend. Hermaous Mora is a likely candidate.

[@insaincaldo]

@@BDM276 Psh, interdimensional communication and scrying is well within the grasp of the magically gifted. Not an easy task, but well within reason for mortals.

[@vishishify]

@@insaincaldo did you mean interdimensional?

[@insaincaldo]

@@vishishify Ah yes a welcome spelling correction for once, thanks. Didn't pay attention to my selling checker, spell control.. fascinating where you find holes in your vocabulary.

[@Xarxes_]

@@BDM276 I believe it's Wulfgar, the grey beard. The greybeards alone can sense wordwalls and when the dragonborn shouts at any time. Arngier is the weakest among them so that he may speak. And Wulfgar always seems to have our back, as when he scolded Arngier about us asking about dragonrend when he snapped at us. Wulfgar also has a quill and roll of paper in his inventory whilst the others do not. I believe Wulfgar sees what Arngier doesn't or will not see: That we, the dragonborn, are not there to commune with the way of the voice. We were summoned, imbued with the dragon-blood unknowingly, and our end goal was to defeat Alduin and restore the proper cycle. Alduin, who shirked his duty, would've consumed and destroyed the world instead of being the catalyst for the next Kalpa. And to help, he writes to us in secret.

[@Galimeer5]

I don't think it's as simple as "creating" a prophecy. Take the Tyranny of the Sun for example. That prophecy, also read from Elder Scrolls, was just created by some snow elf. Yeah, Vyrthur was a high-ranking religious leader, but he wasn't anything special as far as we know. I think when he "created" the prophecy that the blood of a pure vampire could corrupt Auriel's Bow and then be used to darken the sun -- I think that was all just something he knew could happen. After all, he _was_ arch-curate of Auriel, so is it really so hard to believe he would have detailed knowledge of the Bow's workings and properties? So by extension, he should also be able to hypothesize what various magics used on the Bow would yield what results. So here's how it happened: Vyrthur wants to block out the sun to take revenge on Auriel (even though the connection between Auriel and the sun is a tenuous one at best, but I digress). Using his in-depth knowledge of how Auriel's Bow works, he figures tainting the Bow with the blood of a pure vampire would do the trick, so he decides that's what he's going to do. And just like that, the Tyranny of the Sun prophecy is now readable in Elder Scrolls. Yes, Vyrthur "created" the prophecy, but it's not like he used any kind of divine powers or metaphysical foresight to "write" it. I think the Last Dragonborn prophecy worked out something like that too. No one "created" it, it was just a natural consequence of Alduin deciding he would rather dominate than devour this time around (and the reason it's only the Last Dragonborn who can stop him is because the Last Dragonborn is a Shezzarine, so the Last Dragonborn facing Alduin is another iteration of the eternal dichotomy of Lorkhan and Auriel, Sithis and Anui-El, Padomay and Anu, Chaos and Order, but that's a theory for another day)

[@insaincaldo]

Yah, I never got why he claimed to write it, we all know he couldn't have, damn snowelf. Sure he influenced fate and made sure someone followed though, but he didn't alter the scrolls and he could only actually stand to see it come to pass, or well see someone attempt it, or attempt to stop him, because he had all the time in the world to just wait and leave breadcrumbs for someone to follow.

[@Luckybro199]

I love how over time this channel has grown from just lore to lore+speculation videos. I would be stoked if Bethesda hired the Fudgemuppet crew to write some of the new TES6 in game lore.

[@DFAnton]

Would love to hear about the relationship between the Altmer and the Ayleids. Any interactions between them, how they view each other, etc., especially considering they're both basically just ethnicities of High Elves, yet the Ayleids embrace the Daedra.

[@dutchpatriot17]

The Ayleids used to pay tribute to the King of Alinor,, but that eventually died out. Not all Ayleids were Deadra worshippers either. The Barsaebic Ayleids worshipped the Divines.

[@thomasrosendahl2783]

Our hero, our hero, claims a warrior's heart.

[@insaincaldo]

And the scarecrow wanted a brain.

[@mrcellpowerus]

I tell you I tell you the dragonborn comes

[@ryaquaza3offical]

I think we all know who wrote them, it’s even in the name,. it’s the elder squirrels

[@Rahnonymous]

The only thing more cursed than this comment is your username and pfp

[@thomasjenkins7506]

herma mora is simply a collector. he can't create. he couldn't have wrote the prophecy. sure, he took advantage of it, but it's not possible for him to leave a prophecy on nirn, especially one that required the cooperation of akatosh.

[@thaliazelmer2327]

That was my first thought when I saw Drew's vid notice, that HM can't write anything, create anything. However, HM's Apocropha houses all that will be written, is written or was written (past, present, future) and may direct that knowledge, gift it to the right minds, nudge it in the direction that suits him. I think the actual words of the prophecy may be one of those infernal time loop conundrums: it exists because the events will/are/did happen. Also, HM must not be omniscient, or why would he need agents like Miraak or the Last Dragonborn to accumulate more knowledge for him?

[@JaysasterGaming]

But The Prophet in ESO said it was in an Elder Scroll he read.

[@michaszachniewicz2106]

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[@cryonix226]

Did Scott and Michael break up with skyrim or something?

[@realzachfluke1]

Cryonix sometimes we all go through phases. Sometimes you gotta go play other games for awhile. But fear not, friend. Skyrim will always be here when they’re ready.

[@Bughunt89]

14:04 I can just see that dragon taking that shield straight from his hand 😂

[@insaincaldo]

"What are you doing with that? First of, it doesn't cover near enough of you, second I can rip your arm of if you attempt to hold on, we are standing very close."

[@janeshepard9549]

" There is something called....too much information. " - Hermaeus Mora

[@clericofchaos1]

Emil Pagliarulo created the dragonborn prophecy. He was the head writer for the story.

[@dionammoriley7295]

The creation of the prophecies from Elder Scrolls is the more important bit. Upon reading an Elder Scroll, time is set to follow along that path regardless. The one who created the prophecy is the first to read the Elder Scroll (Dragon) from Skyrim and as far as we know, who was that? Felldir the Old. It makes a lot of sense too, since he already knew he could cast Alduin adrift with an Elder Scroll, which isn't common knowledge even amongst Moth Priests

[@thewolfpaladin1858]

What if Herma Mora is actually the Friend who sents you letters

[@tacocat3918]

It makes sense

[@Rahnonymous]

Unless he has a mortal vessel, I think not. Have you ever tried to write with tentacles?

[@derekwoolley3243]

by the way you post videos at around 5:30am in the US and i feel like i an the only one up at the time

[@suvhur]

West Coast > East Coast

[@lapie5234]

You aint the only one

[@goldmegaman1000]

@@suvhur *Miami intensifies*

[@MasterMahan-qm8hu]

Great to see these back again!!! Cheers

[@wiibrockster]

This was a really intresting video and just what I needed to eat my breakfast to.

[@Bitterman5868]

There only one woman who cares about mundus enough to write the prophecy and keep the legacy of her "father" And its Post-Pelinal Meridia. The Second one being Boethiah, Goldbrand exists to defend the Empire of Man, hence the "Protector of Dragon" name. She would hate seeing Lorkhan's work, and the beings who she consider her children, which is Men, being erased by one of Akatosh's rogue shards. And Herma Hora would learn of it and try to get a powerful shezzarine dragonborn on his side.

[@joby-wankenobinolan3428]

Reading the book, I realized the 8 towers were representative of places and things, the brass tower most likely being Numidium, the white tower being the empire without the septims, the red tower being red mountain, and the snow tower is skyrim after Torygg is killed and the civil war has started.

[@lharchmage6908]

Dont forget the writer of the Oghma infinium Was Xarxies the chief scribe of Auriel. Who abandoned Auriel For the ripping out of Lorkhan heart after the Dawn war. Hermie baby called him his loyal servant .

[@downix]

I like the theory that the mysterious "letter from a friend" is from Mora.

[@Daniele-PierreDuLac]

Best TES lore channel on KZbin. Hands down! You guys rock.

[@GameslordXY]

To answer the question from the title: Bethesda Softworks wrote it.

[@falconpv1]

Sheogorath must love the black books.

[@thesolution1225]

Happy Thanksgiving much love. Keep up the good work

[@elliesophiaxx]

Obviously Nazeem.

[@sethharris813]

So I think Mora had even more cause to ensnare the last dragon born. He knew the Dohvakiin would be a Shezzarine, an incarnation of Shor/Lorkhan. He used the idea with Septimus that the heart of Lorkhan was in the box thus enticing a dead heartless god. But Mora pulls the old switcheroo and ensnares their mind with the Oghma Infinium.

[@landonquagan1663]

A lot of people are saying that dragonborn couldn’t be the servant of hermaeus mora, but he already has made one his servant, and the fact that you aren’t able to deny any of hermaeus mora’s requests shows at most that you are destined to serve him reluctantly or otherwise, or at least that his goals and yours seem to go hand and hand

[@scrollkeeper5272]

Mora makes the most sense now that I am thinking about it, but what really baffles me is why he desires knowledge. It seems like he's recording every scrap of information available on top of hoarding and when one considers Mora's relation to Ahkatosh you get an oblivion sized rabbit hole.

[@lichenthug]

The dragon cultists themselves knew of the return of dragons as seen in Forelhost I’m pretty sure. It could have been written by the cultists, or any Man in that time. It’s an old story.. suppose it would be better to gauge who, if we knew WHEN it was written, and when it became legend

[@theboy1625]

I’d never serve that abomination stuck in his realm even for a little power.

[@mileonaslionclaw2525]

Knowledge is power. Meaning old Hermaeus mora could be one of the most powerful deadra in existence. And he knows how to monopolize his knowledge. The bastard.

[@Kirbyroth]

Akatosh has first dibs on the dragonborn

[@crunchpunky9101]

takes forever to get through herma mora's dialogue. it's almost as long as that damn owl from ocarina.

[@Rorschachqp]

If anything, HM figures out what's going on, that a Dragonborn must appear to the time where Alduin is pushed there by the previous heroes. He already tried to turn Miraak into his personal book/knowledge collector so he figures to jump in and get to the new Dragonborn and hopes to have the new DB to: 1) get rid of the problematic Miraak; 2) replace Miraak; 3) not make the same mistakes with new DB, you the player, that he did with Miraak. Basically HM wants to be Gus Fring and the new DB to be his Mike Ehrmantraut. It wouldn't surprise me either if HM isn't a somewhat lonely guy either and would like someone to have around in the eternity he spends gathering knowledge.

[@megspradlin7345]

I mean, if Akatosh is more akin to a child of Lorkhan and Alduin is as well, the manifestation of his will made manifest, and with Hermaeus Mora also potentially being a child of Lorkhan, connections seem even more plausible.

[@wiibrockster]

I still like to think The Prophecy was from a Black Book that an Akaviri Shaman found. Good video!

[@tacocat3918]

You can add so much drama just with your voice! Nice work!

[@NobodyDungeons]

So the funny thing about the hero’s of the most popular elder scroll games is that they all have effectively everlasting life as in morrowind you get immortality disease in oblivion you become shergorath and in Skyrim you are either a vampire lord being kept alive by Mora or your dragon souls are sustaining your youth

[@danksalt5935]

Akatosh hit 3 crisis-es with a single Dovahkiin. Brilliant!!!

[@clavicusvile7870]

Why do I feel like you’d, if not already, make a great D&D DM.

[@georgevirtus]

I wonder what the last kalpa looked like

[@MLPDethDealr32]

Im one of the few that would rather step right back into the boots of my Dragonborn and continue her adventures.

[@juhp9068]

I like watching these video because they’re cool. This is a normal comment, not a “2019?” “Like if you’re depressed because of Fred’s death!” Also I just noticed I turned this normal comment into a rant

[@ramonoski]

Anyone playing Glenmoril (plus Vigilant and Unslaad)? This theory makes so much sense in the context of that overarching story.

[@SenketsuFi]

I want to see a hero become a friend of the daedra, not a servant. Just strole in to the realm of oblivion with some cookies and call out. "hey hermaus! i bought cookies! lets chat about the meaning of life!" The same way im sure EVERYONE wants to chat with partysnaxs.

[@jayes13]

Kinda wish Alduin was harder to fight but if you kill him you get black dragon scales and bones and you make armor thats even better than daedra but nah u get nothing for killing him

[@matthewbush8379]

Akatosh of course the father of all dragons 🐉

[@kastewy8428]

Added a mod that lets me save Miraak. I liked that ending better.

[@ki-td5yb]

I wish that is available for ps4.

[@kastewy8428]

@@ki-td5yb Yeah.

[@markogdon5746]

I always thought that the father of the dragons would have been the writer. God of time and all that. Maybe it was sheogoraths other self? It could even be Magnus. This theory you have proposed also makes sense. Amazing!

[@Entropy67]

Shor is too busy being a billion dragons to write a prophecy, probably it was read from the elder scroll when the eater of worlds was banished forwards in time

[@blackwulf4396]

Great video with many good points. Love all of the work ya'll do but I believe the prophecy may have been written by Akatosh himself. After all he is the God of time, beginning and end. Alduin was created to end the cycle who can say Akatosh didn't create the dragon born as a fail safe to alduins rebellion ?

[@scivixthewickerbeast]

I think I want to see a battle of wits between hermaus mora and jyggalag

[@scivixthewickerbeast]

Mora being an immortal data bank he would know all that jyggalag would do. But jyggalag being the God of logic he would know exactly what Mora would do. They would both know each other's thoughts and plans. I think it would be quite interesting

[@dutchpatriot17]

@@scivixthewickerbeast There's a reason why all the Deadric Princes allied up together to defeat Jyggalag in fear of his power, and not Mora.

[@scivixthewickerbeast]

@@dutchpatriot17 lol. Yeah Mora doesn't have an army to conquer places

[@jasonbondar3]

Pre-dragonborn DLC herma mora is The only daedric lord that the dragonborn actually interacts, cannon wise.

[@ARP-on8ms]

Me having the need of playing skyrim because of this video: Ahh shit, here we go again...

[@jeff-hd9og]

me having to play San Andreas again after reading this comment; ah shit, here we go again...

[@jyggalagdaedricprinceoford6239]

Herma needs to return my books.

[@MCPunk55]

I think Mora is just an opportunist. He offers knowledge to a select few he knows he can profit from. Game mechanics aside, if the Dragonborn can defeat the aspect of a god - being one him or herself, of course - what's preventing him/her from escaping Apocrypha?

[@insignia5026]

Hermaeus Mora is a hoarder of knowledge and a demon of fate. The mortal sons of Akatosh who bear the blood of Dragons shall not be a slave of Hermaeus Mora for they are champions of the mortal realm and in their hearts burns a fury of fire that can only be sustained by devouring the souls of their enemies and taking their remains as trophy’s. Hail The Dragon God of Time and hail The Last Dragonborn!

[@rodom303]

Its obvious if you know anything about Skyrim and Elder Scrolls lore Hermaeus Mora should even be in question... Its Shor or Akatosh Dragon born + dragon god maybe? Defeating Alduin ring a bell?Dragon born + god of man and loves to become human? Greybeards call you Ysmir? Like jesus christ its not that hard The grey beards or a aedric god probably created the prophecy

[@ki-td5yb]

Indeed, Shor's seat is empty.

[@insaincaldo]

@@ki-td5yb I would love it if it ended up being canonized that he was just up taking a piss, or something.

[@Haggysack2k8]

No matter how powerful or dreadful Herma Mora is... Skyrim's people would still ask him if he "needs something" or would tell him about something out of their life, when they "used to be adventurers but then took an arrow to the knee". He is all-knowing and yet he does not understand the concept that lies behind these little things. He does not know, what the mysterious note means, yet the words on it sound familiar to him: "We know". And so it is, that the one, who claims to be all-knowing, does not know the true meaning of this and that another cosmic entity is waiting for him in the sheer unending void: The dreadfather awaits! *HAIL SITHIS*

[@kkblaze312]

This is like my 3rd/4th playthrough of skyrim and im only discovering HALF of this shit and i was really into TES Lore. Man Elder Scrolls is fucking lit. The Fluidity of the Metaphysical Balance of power is as tumultuous and unsure as the mortals on nirn... what a well written series it is beyond LOTR or GOT if it was a Book series...

[@kekero540]

Ngl I think the elder scrolls are part of Lorkhan. Maybe his skin it would make sense for the “last” Dragonborn to actually be a shezzarine not related to akatosh at all. Lorkhan is the god of trickery after all and his realm (nirn) absorbs the powers of the divines so his avatar would therefor to be able to absorb the essence of divine beings like dragons. It’s also important to note that Lorkhan doesn’t want the world to end. (It’s his literal body after all.) and the fact that in all likelihood Talos mantled Shor and resurrected the will of the dead god when the underking merged with the numidium during the warp in the west.

[@sickboy5821]

I know im late, but imagine if in ES6 we have to save last dragonborn form Mora after some years hes been gone and locked away in apocarypha.

[@craigdellicarpini772]

“Yes, your prophecy is from an Elder Scroll.” - Paarthurnax Trying to answer this question is like asking who wrote the fuckin’ Elder Scrolls...To which no one can claim.

[@codyearnestt]

I think skating wrote it when he foresaw what would be some of his first son

[@JamesJNothingIsTooSensitive]

Actually, I suspect what we know about Hermaeus Mora is wrong. After all, it was Jyggalag who was the Daedric Prince of Knowledge - his library having mapped out nearly *_every_* possibility, treating the universe like a game of chess, being thusly able to oucnter any and every action. So great was his knowledge, that all the other Daedra feared him, and cursed him, changing him into Sheogorath - yet Sheogorath only seems to be a piece of Jyggalag. Order turned into Chaos, thus making him a "god of madness". Where did the knowledge go? I think *_that_* is Hermaeus Mora - the knowledge that Jygglag once had, now cast away, but not a threat like Jyggalag was, because unlike the Daedric Prince of Order, he has no goals beyond furthering that knowledge. Jyggalag was a threat because he had *_purpose._* By separating him from his purpose, the knowledge is nothing to fear. That was the real curse. Tearing Jyggalag into two, sundering him. the madness? Just a small side-effect that they kept going so that he could never reunite himself. Then, once Jyggalag was finally freed in Oblivion... well by then his "other half" was likely too distinct, to separate to ever reunite, much like how Akatosh and Alduin are now two separate entities instead of one. By being separate for a long enough time, they are distinct now. No longer the threat they once were when whole. Which is why the Daedra aren't worried about the now freed Jyggalag becoming a threat once more. It also explains the real reason they feared him - Jyggalag was a being that could be split into two constituent parts, order and chaos. Sure they *_called_* him the Daedric Prince of "Order" but he was actually causing both order *_and_* chaos. Jyggalag's realm constantly expanding? Caused order *_inside_* the realm, but chaos *_outside_* it by changing everything around as it grew. It inevitably brought change to the universe, he was a scary thing - a working mixture of Anu and Padomay, something that only the combined powers of all his contemporaries could contend with, and even then they couldn't destroy him, not really. They could only alter him and hope that worked - even then he literally saw through it, while under a curse that made him literally insane, and came up with a plan to defeat the curse. The only question is, will Jyggalag ever be able to re-merge with Hermaeus Mora, and once more begin his reign of Order, bringing change all around him by converting everything into his domain?

[@tonyanthony5105]

Is Mora the "friend" from a "letter from a friend" pointing us to the Word Walls?

[@jextra1313]

Extremely disappointed that you didn't do the hermaeus mora voice

[@The_Petrichor]

Mora I've always interpreted to be the culminated knowledge of a rejected world, as in that which wouldn't work in the world during the time of creation. Like imagine an accumulation of rejected or since patched code becoming something hideous, dare I say wretched. So he may have a connection to divining such information that has come into fruition such as the prophecy, but i don't think I'd do so far to day Mora created it.

[@unbreakablelag]

I think Mora needed Miraak to die to convert him into a true Daedra. Just like Meridias Ayelid champion in Oblivion. This is only a theory and the only evidence I have is that if you toss Miraak’s corpse off the side of the arena, Mora steals it away. Implying that they are not entirely finished with the first dragon born.

[@grandadmiral8173]

Herma: what is your title? Dovahkin: the dragonborn Herma: what it is your quest? Dovahlin: to defeat Alduin, Harkon, and Miraak. Herma: what is the airspeed velocity of a elder dragon in flight? Dovakin: what do you mean? fire or frost? Herma: ? I don't know aaaauuuuuuuggghhhhh!!!!!!!!. 🤣

[@austinhathaway182]

It would be cool to see mora battle against the other daedric gods sending in the dB. And the other daedric princess bringing in the other champions of old games to battle

[@ysmirwulfharth4012]

Me.

[@deadaccount7520]

It's possible. Like much of the lore I wouldn't expect a concrete answer. He would certainly have the knowledge if it's available. But considering he searches for knowledge leads me to believe that it came from elsewhere. Considering how the caliper cycle works. It may not be exclusively a prophecy. It might be history. I think the oddest possible source would be from alduin himself. Passed to the dragon priest as a warning about the dragonborn. Only becoming a warning about alduin after the dragon priest were over thrown.

[@olivermayer4681]

Simple one. Just a Nord on DMT wrote it.

[@Manfromthenorth0551]

Man you really like old Herma Mora don't you.

[@lrn5152]

This is a simple and obvious question i actually never thought of. Huh. Interesting. 😂

[@skyrimbandit3084]

alduin is aspect of akatosh (end of the world) he might create this prophecy to stop himself cause he blessed mortals with dragon blood, or just random dude who always sends thugs after you

[@realzachfluke1]

Happy Thanksgiving everyone :)

[@CodyORyan]

If someone goes mad in apocrypha, does sheogorath get to claim them?

[@UnswimmingFishYT]

Having had thousands of years to collect knowledge from Mundus, Oblivion and probably Aetherius, he would likely know the prophecy would happen, and he does have the right position to have written it down, but it will probably always be unknown who wrote it first for sure. Good guess though.

[@EricAlbin]

Eh. I still think Herma Mora is using the Dragonborn to take care of Miraak, (who was himself kept alive as a plan b by the divines to defeat Alduin.)

[@BigPanda096]

I've always wondered and have never found the answer myself. Do the princes know of the Eldwr Scrolls? Further, does Mora specifically? One more aside, is he capable of reading them?

[@insaincaldo]

Mora has no way of making sure this would happen. Sure he can tell you what he sees as the fate of the world, but not weave the strands of it and fate is uncertain always in flux. It would be a bad move of him to tell of the coming of a hero who might not come to exist. He could never know that an aspect of Akatosh returning to the world, would not have pondered his failure and decided to change his plans in the thousands of years he had been cast out of even Moras line of sight. Not to mention that Alduin had already diverted from his path before he was cast out of time. So he might have played his cards right and used this particular strand of fate for gain, but no the original writing is not his.

[@turdfactory9109]

Can you make a video about Olaf trapping Numinex? I'm still confused on whether or not it actually happened.

[@lordmimir3099]

Why did you guys take down your previous video?

[@ouchpotato2221]

I would not be surprised if they both escaped