We Solved Simone Giertz's Problem | 3D Printed Folding Hanger

[@chrishorlebein]

Honestly, this is the one case where I think metal is definitely the better call. I’ve broken so many plastic coat hangers over the year and I would not feel comfortable paying for 3-D printed coat hangers.

[@stampede18ecs]

@@chrishorlebein so metal 3d printing then

[@Remsster]

@@stampede18ecs That does not seem cost effective for such a product.

[@JonLake]

10$/pc is insane for hangers tho. 2to4$ is max that I'd be comfortable paying for that.

[@ahmadhasan3258]

you're underestimate properly printed plastic, crappy injection molded ones are too thin but the one he has on hand and designed is TOUGH. i can probably stand on it and it wont break. I had this fear before with plastic but then i just kept printing more walls till it was almost indestructible without tools

[@jpeero]

10$ per hanger bro

[@3DJapan]

Her metal ones do look more premium than plastic though.

[@Andy-t2q5i]

premium is not affordable for a lot of people though. so having the same product in premium and plastic sells more of it AND helps more people

[@steamer2k319]

You can always spend more R&D budget on improved designs after you've demonstrated/proven market demand-for / interest-in the concept. It'd still be somewhat imprecise but you'd also have a better sense of the quantities/scale of the more up-market segment.

[@relo999]

@@Andy-t2q5i Except it doesn't, as you'd be increasing your R&D cost and at the same time significantly lowering your profit margin AND undercutting and competing against yourself while at the same time lowering the view of your products and company. There is quite frankly no benefit for an already unprofitable company to make it less profitable. It also doesn't help that this video is VERY pro-3D printing (for obvious reasons) but ignores quite a lot of real world manufacturing and sales issues and overblows other issues. For example MOQ's generally start around a 1000 units, that doesn't take a lot of space for a cloths hanger designed to reduce space usage. The real issue is "will it sell" and 3D printing really doesn't solve that issue as a large big cost post exist before a unit is even sellable. Meanwhile consumer perception, friendliness to cloths, longevity, service (namely shipping speed), etc. are all important aspects of such a design that are ignored with the design in the video and generally can't be solved with 3D prints. Not to mention that if it's a major success 3D printing doesn't scale well.

[@Metagross555]

Does a shirt hangar need "premium"? Environmental consciousness would be a better reason

[@steamer2k319]

@@Metagross555 I hate plastic hangers--but I don't really hang many shirts. I moreso use hangers for jackets and the weight tends to break the plastic ones before long.

[@3DPrintingNerd]

This is a great look at designing for additive, Gabe!

[@slant3d]

Thanks Joel

[@MorleyKert]

Really interesting discussion and design challenge! It's awesome that you were able to produce a 3D printed version, but I think the point about a metal vs 3D printed product can't be understated. At the end of the day, everyone has interacted with a plastic clothes hanger and associates it with cheap/low quality. While I 100% agree that SOME products can be made to feel premium when produced with 3D printing, I don't think that the folding hanger is that product (even when printed in wood PLA - it still feels plasticky to me, personally). I would assume that premium wood/metal products is a non-negotiable for the Yetch Store, even if it does make economic sense to produce them with 3D printing. Awesome video, though! I wonder if it will make them reconsider certain aspects of their production, even if they don't end up 3D printing the entire coat hanger...

[@slant3d]

The material is never what makes a product premium or cheap. It is always the design. For example Scott Yu Jan just made a premium phone dock that is made in with "cheap" plastic but it could be sold for 99 dollars and holds an aluminum smartphone.

[@802Garage]

On the other end of that discussion, as someone who has been pretty broke most of their life, premium products are often out of reach. There is room for both. I think Simone's store is very much targeted at the tech crowd, those with a lot of expendable income, the middle class. What if a brokey need a foldable hanger? This is at the end of the day a functional product for a mundane use. Making it accessible makes sense. I think it may be hard for her to generate sales because most people are okay with hangers being cheap and many simply can't afford hangers that cost as much or more than the clothing items. Not knocking Simone at all, but sometimes a hanger is a hanger, and 3D printed would surely be good enough for many of us. Hard to state exactly what I mean holistically, but hopefully this resonates.

[@LILOREB]

@MorleyKert I definitely agree but there is a possibility to do marketing in those systems like whistling diesel does with multiple tiers.

[@blobson]

@@slant3d > The material is never what makes a product premium or cheap. It is always the design. i get what you mean but that's simply not true. the material plays a big role in how a product is perceived and is part of the design. otherwise the iPhones that snap into Scott Yu Jan's phone dock would be entirely made out of plastic :)

[@phamaral249]

@@slant3d Oh, but the material definetly goes a long way in making something feel premium. If that is her goal, a wooden/metal hanger will always have a better and more premium feel than a plastic hanger

[@MrSirclint]

Starting a company is really easy.... Keeping it alive is whats hard.

[@yakirfrankoveig8094]

If you live in germany then starting a company is also hard

[@punkdigerati]

Man these targeted ads are getting really specific.

[@tbip2001]

The problem is china has already copied her design and when you google folding hanger hers doesnt even come up

[@KanielD]

What’s the problem?

[@Biru_to]

The knock-offs are cheaply made plastic ones, made out of light gray plastic to deceptively look like metal at first glance.

[@KanielD]

@@Biru_to that is bad. Hopefully they can match or exceed the original quality

[@Biru_to]

@@KanielD you want the knockoffs to be better than the original?

[@TheM750]

@@KanielD what’s the problem? IP theft? More cheap plastic destined for landfills?

[@qwertbochaffer]

I think you kind of missed what Simone was saying in her video. She literally said her company is not profitable, and it definitely isn't actually a way for her to diversify her income streams if that's the case. It's more of a passion project for her. I also think FDM 3D printing just doesn't have a good enough aesthetic appearance for a lot of her and most other products. It's a lot of time and money to post process to make things not have obvious layer lines.

[@802Garage]

Fiber filaments and/or fuzzy skin can pretty much make layer lines completely invisible. Lower layer heights as well. Making hangers her way or any way requires multiples steps in a process as well, so it's not like post processing should always be a deal breaker.

[@zaplocked]

I would seriously recommend watching other videos on this channel. He's addressed the latter point, repeatedly.

[@weirdlyspecific302]

It's actually quite impressive how much this guy was able to misinterpret. Not even getting into the fact that the company is a passion project, she literally mentions in the video that she wants to distance herself from the "shitty robot queen" persona and start making products she's genuinely proud of, yet the dude just straight-up refers to her like that while discussing the very same video. You just can't make this up.

[@qwertbochaffer]

@@zaplocked I've seen several other videos, I know textured surfaces and fuzzy skin are his go-to solutions, but on a clothes hangar? I think they would look super out of place, might fray some clothes too when sliding against the surface over time. The only rough hangars own are themselves lined with fabric. Yeah a lower layer height helps but also multiplies the print time. Fiber filled materials I print with a lot myself and they do tend to look a lot better but Slant3D only offers PLA and PETG for now.

[@zaplocked]

@@weirdlyspecific302 using "passion project" to handwave away criticisms or potentially improvements is incredibly dumb. The shitty robot origin was mentioned once, mid sentence, at the beginning of the video. Grow up.

[@TheM750]

There is not a world where a 3D printed hanger would be better than the metal design, as a consumer.

[@Biru_to]

Metal printed coat hanger?

[@802Garage]

There is not a world where a Miata is a better sports car than a Ferrari, but one sure is a lot more affordable and plentiful, eh?

[@TheM750]

@@802Garage if the only thing she cared about was making it cheap, she would have had it injection molded in China. Not everything needs to be cheap mass produced plastic garbage.

[@dreamingthelife]

@@802Garage I think the difference is everyone would rather have Quality hangers while not everyone choose the Ferrari over the Miata but I get it 👍

[@zyrain]

The newer filaments like PETG really are game changing.

[@izzieb]

Wait, 3D printing is your main business? I thought your main business was making country music!

[@slant3d]

Conglomerate. Lol

[@GuruMN]

Found the hard hitting comment right here. Replying for the algaerythym

[@LiveEasy]

Howdy

[@Karaon]

he actually makes woodworking and workshop improvement videos and has a small print farm

[@victorlin4645]

I would say that one possible consideration of hers was to limit environmental waste. From her video it's clear that she tried very hard to make the hinge out of anything that wasn't plastic (and even prototyped without plastic) but in the end had to relent with an injection molded part because it was the only thing that gave her final product the usability and manufacturability properties she desired. Given Simone's background of making things, it's obvious she would have considered 3D prints, but it's clear that she tries to limit plastic waste overall considering she even chooses to prototype with a laser cutter for wood: kzbin.infocq0wJWQmVE8 In her case, perhaps a mass-produced 3D printed hinge mechanism that's easy to assemble onto metal parts may be a more fitting option versus having the entire hanger made of plastic. Note that every single other component of her product (hanger frame, shelf, rod, bracket, etc) are all made with either metal or bamboo, showing a very conscious effort to avoid plastic. Wood and metal are easily degradable nearly anywhere on planet earth. Plastic is not. A hanger made from the former will last a lifetime but can still be safely disposed of beforehand if desired. The latter doesn't really have this option. How many PLA industrial composters are located around the average coat-hanger-buyer, or recycling centers that accept 3D printed parts with no clear material label? The fact that 3D-printed plastic is difficult / impossible to recycle or compost is an issue that's probably holding back a lot of people from considering it for mass production.

[@slant3d]

Parts like that can be made with bio based plastics that have much lower environmental impact than normal. Our hangar was made from cornstarch plastic

[@victorlin4645]

@@slant3d what's the end of life bio-degradability look like? Cornstarch-based PLA obviously needs an industrial composter like I mentioned in my original comment, conditions which are not naturally-occurring, otherwise they just stick around for decades, *especially* something like thousands of chunky clothes hangers. What a plastic is originally made from =/= how safely it decomposes in the environment. It's a false equivalency.

[@ChrisCameronPhoto]

I understand the recycling element. But just to be devils advocate here. Imagine several parts, plus box, plus, label, plus plus plus are manufactured in China, bulk boxed, put in a container, trucked to a port, shipped to a another port, trucked to factory, assembled, packaged, trucked to a warehouse, stored, sorted when ordered and shipped to customer. That is a lot more environmental impact than made to order in one place and shipped to customer directly from manufacturer.

[@victorlin4645]

@@ChrisCameronPhoto for sure. Obviously there's a lot that goes into the final environmental impact of manufacturing and distributing something. At the end of the day without studies it's tough to know what the true environmental cost is going to be with various methods, but the 3D-printing route will absolutely have many of the same issues to varying degrees as well as issues entirely unique to its printing process (impacts of growing the corn, harvesting, transporting, industrial polymerization into PLA, extrusion into filament, filament packaging and shipping, printer energy use, individual packaging and shipping of final product worldwide, environmental impact of degradation of final product over the next 80 years, etc). But given this degree of complexity I doubt the answer is as clear-cut as saying "3D printing the entire thing from cornstarch PLA will *definitely* be the best option." At best it's murky, but I'm just highlighting a potential consideration that people make when deciding between 3D printing versus more traditional biodegradable materials. Given this seasoned inventor's history of prototyping with wood, I would imagine she has her reasons for not going with the obvious choice of just using plastic.

[@ChrisCameronPhoto]

@@victorlin4645 If you're going all the way back to raw materials, then my example also has all that in front of it. Re 'shipping of final product worldwide'. Not necessary, the file can be electronically passed to a print farm local to the purchaser.

[@LexTenebris]

You know, at a first glance, the marketing engineer in my soul just wants to beef up that hook. Not because I think that it needs more strength in order to stand up to any kind of abuse or weight, though I might, but the real reason is that it just doesn't look as beefy as the rest of the hanger. We can make this thing effectively as beefy as we want because it's cheaper to do so than with molding and we have very little overhead cost for the fill. So, make use of that. You can't compete with how strong metal looks because it's metal. But you can compete in the same mental space by simply beefing up the hanger in general and the hook in specific. Let that thing fill the entire area between the bottom of the hook and the side of the hanger. Make it just a little bit thicker on top to match the lines of the body of the hanger. Give it some more authority. Then definitely print it in fiber reinforced black and make that a marketing point. Totally doable.

[@vivi74ify]

Problem is with a big hook is it might not fit in tight space, wich is a case i already encoutered and it is the main point of the habger presented

[@Mrddrichards]

Since her products have an appearance of quality or leanings toward premium appearance, I think it's best to let go of some of your heavy leanings toward cheap, quick and easy, at least to some extent. Could a double hinge work for that application and at the same time make its contact with the wall more square and stable. I suspect that premium products would almost require or benefit from leaving the idea of a single print or part behind so the design isn't compromised?

[@martylawson1638]

I think if Slant used a double hinge they could print the whole hangar laying flat on the printer.

[@megauberduber]

I don't know if I always agree with Slant3D, but they definitely push the envelope in the realm of functional design for AM. I don't know if this product is an ideal candidate for additive, but I will say that the redesign was pretty brilliant!

[@daarshg]

Each of your video is already a masterclass in designing 3d Printable items some more than others. this one is a must watch for all !

[@slant3d]

Thank you

[@gr1f1th]

I love what Simones is trying to do.... but $10/hanger is a hard sell. I think people want to support her and that two tiers of product could probably exist. I also think, personally, that I would have made a custom jig for bending the wire and made them in house and 3d printed the hinge.

[@boonhobo]

there's something about that wood + metal aesthetic that appeals to me though.

[@jackcoats4146]

I did suggest her to contact you guys when her video came out. Love to see I am not the only one to think that way!

[@slant3d]

Thanks

[@hardwareful]

I love everything about this video and supporting Simone with all the 3D printing domain knowledge. Seen eastern knock-offs already, which is such a malevolent move. We don't like boring, crappy stuff - but there's just going to be more of it as long as we punish those who innovate.

[@hotfix7387]

That is as the kids say "a banger" of a video. Really targeted, relevant (I just got a 10 pack of "hingers" myself), and I hope she sees it and considers it helpful. I do get how plastic hangers feel cheap, but I have some I felt were premium because they were thicker and denser. The took way more weight, and I still have some that I bought like 15 years ago (unlike the cheap ones that last only briefly). I've printed a number of the "EZPZ Hanger // Folding Clothes Hanger" by make anything and they are great, but they don't fold like the hinger or look like a normal hanger so there are no expectations with them. I think you are on to something with the texture change up, and I wonder what these would look like in carbon fiber reinforced PETG as that may the sweet spot for aesthetics and strength. As for more country music videos, please don't. The one you did was painful, not because you did it bad or anything, but country music is like nails on a chalk board to me. If you do another music video, please mix it up and do rock, hip hop (that could be funny), or anything else. This is my hangup/issue though so if I am the minority then I won't blame you if you ignore my request.

[@artemyevtushenko8722]

Now THIS is a good video with great takeaways. Well done folks!

[@Pystro]

Those features that you describe (the on-demand-ness, order quantities, storage, ...) aren't exclusive to 3d printing. They are a consequence of the part being defined and formed by the tool path, and the fact that that is computer-controlled. You'd also have that for CNC milling, roboforming, laser-cutting, laser-engraving, traditional engraving, traditional printing, ... (That is, as long as the shop/factory can - or does already - store the raw materials.) You only have that "we're having to set up this machine every time we start a batch" problem for "mold-defined" processes like molding, metal stamping, pressure-forming, extruding, .... Now, if someone could design a folding hanger that can be laser-cut out of metal. The problem is that in contrast to metal stamping, the hinge would be "highly non-trivial". But I'm 100% convinced that it should be possible. I even have thrown together a hinge design in 10 minutes that would work, with the only downside that it limits the articulation from 180° (fully folded) to something like 45°. The problem is that each hinge limits you to between 45° and 135° angle between the two parts, so you'd need 3 hinges to cover the full range of 180° to 0°. And with 3 hinges (4 pieces) you get problems with locking the pieces in. Unless you go with 3 pieces, but have the small center piece metal stamped. It can be small enough that ordering 2 pallets will last you indefinitely.

[@TheGreatChrisB]

I think her metal ones look great and definitely feel premium, but if she wanted to offer a secondary cheaper version that will help her design grow, these would be nice.

[@Nainn0]

Hello Honestly, i think the major issue is the balance of this thing. Because you can't hang it wherever you want, you need to have the bar designed by simone toot which is very close to the wall, and it will rest on the wall. I think it need to be fold in three, restoring the balance under the hook, and then boom, you can hang it wherever you want.

[@3dpprofessor]

10:07 Not gonna lie, that looks good enough to sell in stores. Maybe not the Sharper Image, but Walmart definitely. I'm curious what one of those could cost in retail.

[@charliekealoha]

Sadly there is one thing she did say on a different podcast about the hanger. Something about a day or two after she announced the pre-orders, people on Temu and the like had already started sell her design with her images and everything for less than she was offering for the pre-orders. So that's another issue she has to deal with as well.

[@davydatwood3158]

When I saw Simone's video I thought - and I think even commented - that there was a potential there for a collab with Slant3D. Glad to see you guys agree. I hope this can become not only a way for her to improve her store, but for both channels to make some interesting content!

[@azalea_moon-kee]

A lot of the commenters I think are missing the point of Professor Gabe's lecture... While he's using Simone's coat hanger as an example of a product and redesigning it, the lesson he's trying to give is so much more "meta" in that you can take a product that you are thinking needs to be traditionally manufactured modify it to be manufactured with FDM and then use the illegal geometry, rapid iteration and on demand manufacturing features of FDM to become very quickly profitable with an item. People get sidetracked by the product that's being demonstrated as opposed to the manufacturing concept that's being illuminated.

[@ajmckay2]

Nice video! I agree that for a new idea using additive manufacturing is ideal. You can bring a product to market so much faster. And then if it does well you can explore creating a second version that's manufactured how you would ideally want it to be, a premium option if you will. But in the meantime you don't lose money and you're not screwed if a product doesn't gain the market traction you thought it would.

[@dropbear9785]

Great video! 3d Printing (in this case) is a PERFECT "bridge technology" that would allow her to scale her business on the cheap until she validates demand and price tolerance. THEN, if she needs millions of hangers per month, or wants a super-premium metal/bamboo option she can use that 'proof money' to fund production beyond where 3d printing is the optimal option.

[@DIYToPen]

I reckon she should just 3d print the joint mechanism. She could make her own bending jig wrt the actual hanger, it wouldn't be hard.

[@AangPer]

I really like this and the original version! I’m not an expert in this field, so I’m not sure about the technical implications, but I was wondering if it would be possible to have the middle section stop halfway down instead of going all the way to the bottom. This might make it easier to hang pants without having to slide them through the entire hanger, especially for wider garments. I’m not sure if the weight would be an issue, but since the original hangers are made of metal and look pretty sturdy, it seems like it could work. Just a thought! I know these hangers weren’t originally designed for hanging pants, but it would be cool if this idea made it possible

[@DIYtechie]

Very clever to use Simone’s video to showcase the benefits of using 3D print farms. Great context and content. Thanks.

[@SSUSAZ]

She should offer two versions: her original design, which has a unique look and a higher price, and a more affordable 3D-printed version. The 3D-printed option would be great for people who just want something functional to save space in their closet and aren’t as focused on the design. She's clearly having production issues because it's been about a year since the Kickstarter was funded and the product isn't available for purchase.

[@DanielBradshaw]

Her metal versions have a premium look, while the 3D-printed ones are also impressive. Offering both could cater to different clientele, much like how VW produces both the Golf and Lamborghini.

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

Isn't the big problem with 3D printing for manufacturing that people can just print their own product? Like, couldn't this folding hangar just be uploaded to printables/makerworld and then nobody would want to pay $25 for it?

[@slant3d]

No scale. Maybe 1 million people in the world have a 3d printer. There are 8 billion people on the planet. You need factories

[@Biru_to]

Only those with a 3D printer, or those unwilling to spend $25, would consider an alternative to purchasing it? Reverse engineering of products definitely is a risk, and with easy production methods, that risk is increased. I doubt it will be a serious risk though, as most people are not interested (or able) to produce most of the things they use in their every day life. And that typically includes, clothes hangers.

[@Fisicracks]

This is a masterclass of product design, 3d printing and a lot of creative ideas, hope Simone consider your design

[@vfxsoup]

The solution I think is to use the real stainless steel wire like Simone does but use your hinge or something like it in the core printed in black. Alternatively print molds to cast the hinges in resin. It would then have your functionality but her Aesthetic. Plus bonus… you could design it so you can have it fold so you have two items on each side. Sort of a mirror image of the folded hanger on each side. Ends up looking like one normal hanger but has two folded pieces on it. Give away this design to Simone.

[@ChrisCameronPhoto]

The point of the solution in this video is that it doesn't require all the hassle around getting separately manufactured parts together for assembly. When an order comes in, it is made at Slant3d, packaged and posted.

[@sg9222]

What prevents the part that's folded over from just untucking itself, is it just relying on friction? Looks like with a slight bit of movement you'd just end up with an unfolded t-shirt hanging on a folded hanger, or am i missing something?

[@BartJBols]

3d printed shaper that folds the metal into a metal coat hanger so she can make like 25 a day herself if she needs, then in between large orders she can service customers by home made ones. Imo that is the best way to do it to allow her to scale her product.

[@ArchonLicht]

This is so awesome! I hope Simone finds this useful as well

[@slant3d]

Me too!

[@kholdsworth27]

Yeah nah, im not a fan of considering 3d printing a clothes hanger. Yes this is a great point of conversation for each of the benefits of print on demand but the product is not the right fot for me personally..

[@JonLake]

I feel like you could've cheated on the shape and fold the two pieces flat inside one another. But this is awesome!

[@BuiltByLines3D]

Love it!! Both of yall make great content :)

[@slant3d]

Thanks so much!!

[@BuiltByLines3D]

@@slant3d You're welcome :)

[@trkoo]

Hook will break.... Dont pretend.... It will take forever to print those as well...

[@802Garage]

LOL you need to look at some strength tests of 3D printed hooks where were printed on their sides. They can hold tens or hundreds of pounds and have minimal creep.

[@trkoo]

@@802Garage I will bet 1k that hanger won't carry a heavy coat grap and go... Even injection ones have a hard time there is no way this will do more than some light t-shirt action.

[@802Garage]

@@trkoo Check out the video "How Strong Can A 3D Printed PLA Hook Be?!?" and at 6:02 a basic S-hook made of PLA with 10% infill and a 2/3 walls can hold 37kg. At 6:06 a C-hook with the same settings held 44kg. That means with just a few more perimeters it could easily hold far more. Show me a coat that weighs over 30kg and I'll show you a suit of armor. That's just a single example of countless which prove my point. Do your own testing at home for that matter. You'll be very surprised.

[@MarkusRessel]

It doesnt matter how much it can carry. A metal rod is definitely more durable, especially given how hangers are usually "abused". Metal will at most bend, and it will take a lot more than it would for a plastic one of equal dimensions. Metal is asthaetic as is, plastic is mostly not, especially if not molded. I have used printed hooks myself and they are fine for small volume things, but suggesting the use of 3D printing plastic instead of using Metal Rods simply to become cheaper comes with so many disadvantages that it would completely defeat the purpose of designing a great product in the first place. Its a great DIY Solution, but not a product to sell (in this case, imho, not generally speaking).

[@MartinLohrMGLVideo]

thanks for giving her input!

[@slant3d]

Our pleasure!

[@agent0422]

The problem with the foldable clothes hanger is that it's priced like a premium product, but not marketed as such. Her sales will stay low until she realizes that.

[@Drahcar]

I want to buy this STL so I can print these for myself but I would happily purchase these for a decent price!

[@recoveryguru]

That is kind of you design that and reach out. If she is going patent her hanger it would be a narrow design patent, because there are several foldable hanger patents that have expired already. She is not going to be able to compete with the knock offs with her current hanger. I think she would be smart to contact you. Her influencer power can only sell those hangers at that price for so long.

[@hyperphrog69]

I have 3 3d printed folding clothes hanger in my wardrobe, they're plenty strong enough. Those fold to save space when not used tho.

[@Guyver02USA]

- I changed all my plastic hangers to metal ones cox the plastic ones either broke thru random application of strength or deformed after long period of time . Metal ones deforms but can be easily adjusted back to almost the original shape but plastic ones definitely can’t .

[@anon_y_mousse]

This kind of technique may work for some products, but definitely not for a hanger. Although, a wire hanger, even of a relatively thick gauge shouldn't cost $10 per hanger. As far as stock on hand, it really shouldn't be such an onerous burden for something made out of wire. It'd basically be the same burden as keeping spools of filament on hand to 3D print something. Of course, if you have to contract someone else to produce for you, then you're going to incur higher costs than you would if you produced it yourself. So for something like this, even if she were to 3D print it, it'd be cheaper to just produce it herself, and since the time and space requirements for metal wire are about the same and the end product is better, it really wouldn't make sense to contract a third party or 3D print it.

[@XxHeManWomenHaterxX]

You mentioned that this part would not be ideal for Print on Demand. I'm assuming you are taking into account the expense of taking a single printer out of your mass production farm for one-off prints. Can you explain how you are evaluating this cost? Also, if Simone was so inclined, could she help pay for "startup costs" and reserve her own section of the print farm dedicated to print on demand orders?

[@chandlermiller3944]

The metal hangers look better overall however I can see the argument for the plastic hangers because of price. I think there is room for both types to exist. I know its a niche market but the two options could have there own slice of the pie each.

[@AndrewDasilvaPLT]

Grant, thanks for your work.

[@STPromosMusic]

Someone probably already talked about it in the comments but... What if... You just print the plastic part of her coat hanger and keep the metal wire part? Should cut down costs tremendously anyways

[@motoformprototyping]

I know there are print farms in Europe that could print these hangers but do you at Slant have plans to establish a plant here? Because however connected we are these days and Etsy etc makes it very easy, there are still customs shipping etc.

[@only1muppet]

I subscribe to her channel too, I saw that video. But for some reason seeing those clips here, just gave me an idea for her. Maybe she should try to market them on KZbin channels and websites that sell RV and tiny homes. I think those would be great use cases. I do think keeping the frame of the hanger metal and having Slant3D produce the plastic bits could be a cheaper way to go. If she didn’t already pay for injection molding in large quantities already.

[@Anna-jv8xi]

I have seen her videos but only now looked at her store. Is there a reason she isn’t selling the hangers without the wall attachment? Actually financial or rather more practical? I for example don’t like the look/colors of it and would imagine doing something with pipes for example.

[@Internatube]

Is the STL for the hanger available?

[@joaomanoellima5947]

You made a really interesting 12 minute pitch disguised as a masterclass on manufacturing. Congrats haha

[@SneakyJoeRu]

I use pla+ hooks to hang my pants with lots of crap inside, as well as my many backpacks.

[@802Garage]

Yeah small pieces of 3D printed plastic can hold tens of pounds. The big issues hit when leverage and layer separation are involved. Still, this is definitely a product that can work very well 3D printed.

[@riba2233]

you should print it on two plates, vertical rod still won't be strong enough, despite that rib

[@oCoelhoPedro]

But it wasn't clear if you had already get in touch with her, or did this video with this purpose.

[@ingGS]

I’ll keep supporting you in your late years Slant3D!

[@slant3d]

But our onlyfans revenue will dry up. Lol

[@petergamache5368]

Looking forward to episodes like, "Print your own TPU cane/walker tips - what durometer works best?"

[@breakflight]

I doubt that would work. Try a weight test on your hanger vs. a traditional hanger. I expect that thin hook will break.

[@802Garage]

Watch any strength tests of 3D printed hooks which are printed laying on their sides. They can hold tens or hundreds of pounds with minimal creep.

[@ZeeengMicro]

Steel rod and steel bending are not that expensive tho. I assume she needs at least 2 meters of steel rod for each hanger, then she could sell it for 3 to 5 USD each and still make a profit. She also could 3d print the hinge part for a cheaper start, later she could opt for injection plastic if she wants to

[@RBallarddesigns]

The headline. “Handsome Country music star starts 3D printing side hustle “

[@Clickworker101]

I think she has a 3d printer herself. But it’s a really nice idea

[@slant3d]

But does she have thousands of them? That's where we can help.

[@H1nD009]

I have been watching for over a year... And i just realized you have not talked about the azeron keyboards

[@derekgleue3679]

I would love this STL file.

[@generic0000]

Couldn't you just print it in place folded with a hinge that is heigher than the rest of the hanger? You rotate it 90 degrees from how it was printed to put the shirt on, then continue to rotate it ANOTHER 90 degrees to hang it up. The raised hinge gives it clearance for the shirt. EDIT: Also, if she wants premium you've got that covered too. What's more premium than regolith simulant?

[@MadMal2024]

There is a flaw in the folding hanger design... If someone modifies it to b sprung so it closes up automatically. The need for a secure method of keeping it open till you want to collapse it. Otherwise a neat idea.

[@trebraswell5043]

where could I get the stl for the hanger?

[@GeoffMcMasters]

Almost seems like you could have done this with Simone behind the scenes 🤔 mind you I have no clue how easy that is to do. Otherwise, interesting video as always.

[@mrakguy99]

Great video.

[@slant3d]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@98Zai]

Also, the promise of 3D printing is locality. Why should anyone "order" 3D printed things when they can own a 3D printer or pay a local shop? The idea is to avoid the middle men. Just send raw resources and make them into what you need on the spot - this is the promise of 3D printing. This 3D printing factory method is inheriting a lot of the worst things from manufacturing.

[@andrewadams9686]

I'm curious to hear her take on this. From what I recall, she was reluctant to use 3D printing back when she still used queen of shitty robots label.. I could be wrong but I don't think that is the aesthetic she's after in her products. This is cool and all but I'm super curious about her response to it.

[@cferracini]

Now I want to know about wood printing

[@HarrisonMartinson]

It's Giertz, not Gietz. Great video by the way

[@DIYToPen]

Don't know what point you're making with this, she pronounces it yetch.

[@JanHavel]

Its weird situation - I like the concept but its too expensive to buy it from quality materials (yet?) and cheaper version (especially 3d printed one) is on one side needed but on other not worth the hassle and I dont think I would trust it to least long enough. (and the visual despite being better than I would expect is far from the original intended look) PS: I do also not believe this type of 3d printing is production ready ... you obviously can do it but postprocessing it from layer lines and so is terrible process. Resin on other hand seems like better process but its toxic and more fragile(?) ... one day we will have those Star Trek replicators but there is still long way to go sadly :) (luckily tech advancement is accelerating rather quickly over the years) ... There are metal 3d printers too tho, maybe that would work? I suppose there is lot of terrible postprocess needed too but that shiny metal look + rigidity could be achieavable? maybe costs there are not that viable anymore? Afterthought: Maybe there is some compromise - 3d printed hinge (with some accetone smoothing maybe?) and the rest can be probably made from metal (aluminium?) rod with some jig from piece of wood, few screws and metal pulleys at right possitions would be my guess - figuring the dimensions and so out would be the hard part but then it is something most ppl could make .. still some hassle but the end product would look much closer to the original?

[@nofutureinYT]

The only thing this video does really well, is point more people to her channel

[@gunstorm05]

Her design is dual-hinge, while yours is single hinge. Yours will pinch the clothes, while hers just folds them. I've printed my fair share of print-in-place hinges and they are never going to be as good as what Simone produced. That said... Yeah, the iteration process on her end looks slow and frustrating. 3D printing could even just help with getting prototypes going, to help pinpoint what the design needs during later stages.

[@TS_Mind_Swept]

Now *I* kinda wanna make (at least) onea these SuperVinlin

[@scaredyfish]

This is useful as a case study, but for this product, which has already had its manufacturing processes designed, dies created, etc., I don’t think it’s a realistic option. I also can’t see people paying much for a plastic hanger, so volumes would have to be huge, but maybe I’m wrong.

[@extraordinary-podcast]

I love it 🙂 I can also really recommend this show with Simone Giertz, where she talks about her life as a robot inventor and entrepreneur. She also shares the moving story about her battle with a brain tumor, and she reveals a brand new invention on the show: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJawm2V7nbN-mpYsi=VK9DZjPp7W31q2z6

[@matthewprice5749]

You think Simone doesn't know about 3d printing? Dude...

[@matthewprice5749]

After another viewing, I have decided to unsub from your channel. I am really disappointed in you. You solved absolutely nothing and are just trying to piggyback on Simone's success. I hope everyone else can see this as well...

[@hellobill3569]

HANGARS TURN ON THE ROD AND WHEN U TURN NORMAL HANGERS UP AGAINST THE WALL U DONT HAVE TO PUT A RANDOM CREASE IN YOUR CLOTHES AND THEY TAKE UP LESS SPACE THAN THIS FOLDING THING. BRUH

[@markiv98]

Man's out here creating pitch videos and then getting ad revenue

[@brucedanieliii]

What a great crossover :)

[@slant3d]

Thanks

[@spaz13b]

I think this whole thing is awesome! You reaching out to her. Showing what's possible to be done. Explaining the how's , why's , what's and all's. Very cool. Well done, sir! 👏👏👏

[@spaz13b]

Also, I was the four hundred and twentyeth (420) "like". Yes!! 😅

[@slant3d]

Thanks you. Really appreciate it

[@mizzoudavis]

Good thing this guy can always fall back on revenue generated from owning Wrexham AFC.

[@slant3d]

Nah, but my TV career is doing alright.

[@footpath0592]

40s ago. Last time I was this early... Uhh guys did you know you can like a comment with a double tap

[@SneakyJoeRu]

Liar

[@Roobotics]

Thank you for helping me realize why I've occasionally faved random comments just trying to scroll.. lmao.. that's bad UI design. 😂

[@steamer2k319]

New/next problem: build an audience for the me-sitting-in-front-of-CAD-and-waiting-on-proto-prints channel 🤭.

[@Erroricek]

where i can find model?

[@User24x]

Plastic hangers are actually better than metal because metal can rust and ruin your clothes. Any non-metal hangers are better.

[@70newlife]

$150 per hanger set? Im India You get a whole steel wardrobe in $200😂😂. In china probably 50% less

[@98Zai]

I don't think she wants to be a factory of mass produced goods. I think she's relying on her reputation etc as a designer to sell premium goods. It's like apple, they can sell their stuff cheaper but they want their products to be exclusive, art objects. Also, like someone mentioned below - this type of design is easy to copy. She can't beat them.

[@calgrier]

I’ve seen two of this guy’s videos. Are they all just him begging for people to use his print farm?

[@BoomBillion]

😅 folding hangers have been a thing since 90's.