The Problems with "Hustle Culture" | Figure Humanoid Robot | Busy Week in 3D Printing

[@JonnyZ02]

I think a significant part of hustle *culture* is the idea that monetary and career success are the most important part of one's life and that there is an intrinsic moral high ground in working hard. Not everyone should aim for the stars, a good life can also be a humble and stable one

[@GunnarKennedy]

It's a kind of a parallel nonsecular track to the rise of "prosperity gospel" shenanigans.

[@ErikPelyukhno]

On the topic of hustle culture, I used to be really bitter at my dad for working all the time when I was younger. As an immigrant, he was prioritizing getting our family’s finances in a safe place but it hurt me that I didn’t get to see him often. Now that I’m older, I completely empathize with him sacrificing time with us to get our family financially stable. Now he has more time for us and we’re living a good life. It’s not always about picking the correct choice, but rather choosing the compromise that benefits you the most in the long term.

[@LWUndsoo]

regarding the hustle culture. everyone on social media talks about how to "break out of the matrix", but to be honest im pretty happy having a stable job and income.

[@JonnyZ02]

It's funny how they say they "break out" of the matrix but all they're doing is working *for* the matrix (eg working for amazon by dropshipping)

[@JetTinkerer]

The people who say break out of the matrix were never in it. It's there to activate a primal response. Usually coming from kids on youtube born from rich parents i.e. doctors, lawyers, c sweet executives, etc. They have all the influence and connections on a whim. They're also taught how to do/manipulate these things from a young age. So without experiencing but a fraction of real life the 99% faces daily, ofcourse they can spend time building onto of the hill they were already born on and go make youtube videos titled "how I make 70k a month at age 22"

[@alextrezvy6889]

"but to be honest im pretty happy having a stable job and income." // It depends on many factors. Did you hear such word as "mobilization"? And yet it happens in some places.

[@agrariancraftsleather]

I do find it interesting that there is a whole culture of just punching the clock and doing the bare minimum in terms of effort while expecting the pay scale of someone who bears more responsibility and puts in more time. If you sign on to a company for a set pay rate for a limited skill set and get upset that your results aren’t up to snuff and being asked to do more or better, the problem isn’t necessarily with the company. The best piece of advice anyone ever gave me was move up or move out. Those who put in effort to achieve specific and/or more results get to reap the rewards and that’s how it should be. I understand that not every work environment is like this but if it ain’t working, figure out what does and move up or move out.

[@RNMSC]

One of the issues I've found is that many companies (not all by any means) completely ignore what value the employee who 'gets things done' without drama or looking for hero worship. There are a lot of people who do things well, get the work they are expected to do, done, and either see no adjustment to their income, meaning that from a cost of living perspective, their work is far less valuable, or see people doing the same thing they are doing getting 40% pay increases for jumping to another company. Or worse yet finding that they new guy 2 cubicles over is earning 50% more and is neither getting more done, nor expected to ever get as much done as they are. Pretty much every employer knows that if you are being freshly on-boarded, the company can expect that your first year is going to cost the company much more than your wages and compensation. You're going to make mistakes that cost the company, you will be learning the culture, and if the company is worth their value, they have someone they are going to pair you up with who's going to take a performance hit, who's secondary job is to bring you up to speed, help you learn from those mistakes, etc. A.K.A. Mentoring. That mentoring could be a track towards management, but there are a lot of people who have zero interest in getting into management, but are by far the best people to get to bring the new guy up to speed. Additionally, if they are interested in going beyond the income they are getting, and they see that the best they are ever going to see income growth wise is a 4% year over year loss, when they find that your competitor down the street is offering 40% more for someone with fewer skills than they have, it's likely that you are going to find yourself having to pay even more to replace that person, than they got from your competitor. (Competitor here not being a company doing the identical thing, simply another company that needs someone with comparable skills.) When you complain that someone is doing the 'bare minimum' is that really the bare minimum? Or is it just what you expect them to do in a busy environment? Most people who have no interest in getting into management are not looking for "management level" increases in pay, unless you're also shorting pay to your managers. They are looking for an ongoing income that's comparable to the cost of living, and recognition that you are part of a successful organization. In some years that may be the gold star, but most years if the company is growing at 10% profit year over year, in an economy that's growing at 5%, I can assure you that a 2% increase in people's paychecks is a slap in the face.

[@slant3d]

Great take

[@JaimeChereau]

About what you say about "Hustle Culture", I think it's good to be direct, but the question is always whether your boss is honest or not. How many people have been promised to grow and in the end it doesn't happen or, most commonly, they set a new goal for you and the carrot game goes on and on.

[@slant3d]

Write it down. Solves that problem

[@willofthemaker]

One thing to add that I've realized and working on myself. To really build your own wealth, you need to learn how to scale the end result. Break the direct linkage between you and the revenue. You only have so many hours you can do something. That shouldn't be the limiting factor

[@Liberty4Ever]

While it's great training for many hustle people, entrepreneurs shouldn't work for corporations. Being an entrepreneur in a corporate environment is a recipe for unhappiness or at least grossly wasted potential and effort. Most salaried employees turn in their 45 hours and get a 3-5% raise that's intended as a bit more than cost of living increases. Those with the corporate version of hustle will constantly reapply for better paying jobs to climb the corporate ladder. Slackers will show up for 40 hours a week and do as little as possible, and will get 1-2% raises every year, which is good money for showing up and doing little. An entrepreneur will work 70 hours a week at their salaried corporate job, making up for the slackers and generally doing what is needed to make the business successful and will get a 3-5% raise every year while their manager takes the credit.

[@slant3d]

That is why it so important to communicate with and set goals and rewards with your manger. So your works yields results it you hit the results you promised

[@Liberty4Ever]

@@slant3d - Being rewarded as a salaried employee for extra effort works in small entrepreneurial companies. The concept is antithetical to managers in large corporate bureaucracies, and even if by some miracle there was a manager willing to compensate by value provided, they are prevented from doing so by HR. Managers have an assessment worksheet and total slackers get a 1% raise and stellar employees earning the company 50X the average max out on the grid at 5%.

[@iwannaratrod]

I would say that "hustle culture" in practice is not simply a really strong work ethic. In practice it has a few negative defining features I have noticed. A - Primarily: If you don't fit that person's or those people's definition of "hustle", then you are less than them. Regardless of situation. Regardless of background. Regardless of abilities. Regardless of working smart instead of hard. Regardless of where your priorities lie. If you don't "work" as long as them, at the tings they value, you are less of a person. B - It comes at the detriment of almost, if not all, of their personal relationships. You touched on this, but what I have noticed is they they tend to be borderline sociopaths. All else in life is expendable in the name of "hustle". the "hustle" is the goal. They have little to nothing of a goal that isn't monetary or property. C - They have no understanding of mathematics. Not everyone can do the thing they want to do. Society has many needs and somehow they seem to think that everyone has the ability to fit their definition of a "hustler" if they only work hard enough. They forget that they poop, and that poop requires people to make sure that poop is taken care of so they can pretend to be contributing to society in some meaningful way. I've reached the point in my life where I have been shat on by enough middle and upper management that I refuse to try to benefit them anymore. I'm lucky in that I have a job that barely pays the bills, but has a good work environment, I get to make cool things, and play with cool tools. That allows me barely enough energy to try to be a good dad and spouse. That's where my priorities are now. I worked for too many years at 120% performance, zero defects, without recompence, that I refuse to give any corporation more than what is defined in my job roll. No more. No less. Because if I performed at 99.9%, there is an excuse to punish. I do have ambition. I strive to be the best family man I can. I strive to learn more and do things I enjoy. I'm not lazy. I like working hard and smart when I can. I just choose to do it for myself rather than a corporation.

[@bharath9019]

They say the grass is greener on the other side Some one else said the grass is greener where you water it

[@logicalfundy]

Taking care of yourself can lead to considerable efficiency gains. I can get a lot more done by getting enough rest and taking care of myself than I will ever gain by extending hours. I'm also of the opinion that ones work is only one part of life, and not necessarily the most important part. You can't put off taking care of your family, and if you wait until you're old enough to retire to do the stuff you've always wanted - well by then your body might not be able to do what you've always wanted. Like most things in life - a good balance is key, rather than going to an extreme.

[@jonathanmitchell1776]

2:50 great salesman. 👏🏻👏🏻 Figure, call him.

[@user-yk1cw8im4h]

there are lots of small firms in my sector that makes excuses like not able to hire more people, hence you are overloaded with work and work long hours. And to make it not appearing toxic they put on a positive veil to the long hours and bring us free dinners, force a kind of “friendly” working culture to every staff. If I’m the boss, then of course I have the incentive to hustle as the company is my baby.

[@sleepib]

I saw one of the demos from Figure, IMO they're at least a decade behind boston dynamics, despite the higher valuation.

[@segment932]

Can you talk about selecting FDM materials for mechanical robots that is going to be used outdoors in sun and snow?

[@AerialWaviator]

3D Printers are robots too! Just very specialized robots with limited sensors suite and capabilities. Figure is said to be a supplier of bipeds to Amazon. This is interesting as Amazon has developed robots and done much to automate shipping itself. The $675 million funding came from a venture capital funding having an interesting group of contributors (Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, Microsoft, chipmakers Nvidia, Intel and OpenAI) Over last few month Lowes (big-box store) has been deploying KnightScope K5 robots in a security, theft deterrent role. The complexity of these K5 robots is on par with a typical 3D printer. Is fascinating that both Figure and KnightScope are just a couple years old.

[@TS_Mind_Swept]

I really appreciate the points you made about busy work here, definitely planning on making some significant changes with that in mind

[@testboga5991]

Maybe you can make a deal with figure that their robots don't kill you first in the robot apocalypse in exchange for parts.

[@b1tw0nder]

chrome tabs? brave tabs? tabbed browsing puts a whole new meaning to keeping tabs on things. so does putting tabs on your 3d models.

[@mkhmkh1266]

There are people who stive for excellence, and people who strive for promotions. Mediocre people who focus on themselves end up being over people who strive for excellence. This is corporate culture today. Mediocre people at the top who snipe at each other, but also protect each other from competent people lower on the org chart.

[@stevencullen6261]

Ya I have had a taskmaster as a supervisor literally admitted one day he got written up due to yelling at a staff member in one building and got heard in a completely different building and could make out every word I no longer work there and you couldn't give me the winning lotto ticket to go back and since it was a small business in our local I don't hold back on telling people the ONLY people I say should apply are the people who automatically discredit everything someone has to say about an ex-job and get an experience they won't forget

[@aronseptianto8142]

while a big part of hustle culture is doing a lot of work without real gains i think it's describing it from the symptom and not the action. From what I understand hustle culture is precisely the culture of measuring your result, in this case, way too much. This is coupled with the desire to maximize income or career success above all else. there's a desire to be exceptional in a way that you'll be doing things no one else is supposedly doing, trying every unconventional way to get more money. The problem becoming not that you don't get any result but it makes a mindset that's very shortsighted and direct. where long term career progression and physical health is traded to maximize short term monetary gain.

[@richardjamison711]

Measuring the right thing can be a challenge. It gets more important to measure the right thing if your role is managing others because you get what you measure. Measuring meaningful outcomes is often difficult. Measuring anything else focuses people on the wrong things.

[@tarnis3d]

The world will happily let you work really really hard. Be sure there's something in it for you

[@antlu65]

Figure, if you're out there listening to this... We are here to work with you if you want to prototype and iterate quickly on the design of your doomsday robot army. Whether you aim to conquer a city block or a continent, we have the capacity to scale with you.

[@snugglesjuggler]

Promotion culture can be really toxic for companies. Yes, you will keep your workaholic employee but that employee has now left a role that person was really good at and entered a new role that person is not very good at. I'm a senior software developer and the only reason I can still have a fair wage after 30 years with the same role is due to promotion culture in other offshore countries. Cuz those developers will never reach my knowledge and is not even interested in doing that. They just want to get promoted into a boss role as fast as possible for the money.

[@teac117]

I see your smile.... of course they never think they're slacking off. :P

[@jeremiahbullfrog9288]

You didn't "pop in" .. universe shattered

[@chrismitchell9936]

if hustle = work more hours..its exploitive.

[@alextrezvy6889]

Is also the name of a dance.

[@SilentShiba]

I think the toxicity is from your desires stemming from wanting to be better than other people. So really you need to short circuit your ego, and broadcast your wants to the universe/God/whatever you believe in truthfully. So a lot of people work, work, work, work, work because house prices are going up, but house prices are going up because more people are work work work (on non-community building projects and desireable housing developments). Do you understand this perspective more? I'm sure teenagers are feeling it more than understanding it (in fact, transformign feeling to understanding is the primary motivation for senior projects and essays and such!!), so you might have got an improper expression of the argument from you friend

[@michaelscarn4133]

Figure is a total scam, Brett is a conman, he left his previous company half way through, he is not a builder, he is just a talker and knows how to mooch off Silicon Valley VC’s, just watch when it goes to bust like FTX P.S: they don’t order parts from small scale businesses, they order parts from Xometry, Stratysys and other big players

[@larrywilchek7920]

I usually find your content interesting and topical. This one, however, is the single most boring video I have ever had the displeasure to listen to. Please stick to the helpful tips and tricks of 3D printing.