Slavery In Islam: Sex Slavery & Concubinage | Dr. Shabir Ally

We continue our discussion of #slavery. In part 2, Dr. Shabir explains that classical Islamic law does not prohibit slavery and does not reject the sexual use of female slaves. Why does the #Quran mention “those whom your right hand possesses”? What does it prescribe about concubines? And how should #Muslims reconcile their scriptures with the moral recognition that slavery is wrong? Dr. Shabir Ally joins Dr. Safiyyah Ally to explain!
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[@AebdulGhafarSha]

No matter how much you sugar coat it, No matter how much you put good mask, truth will prevail itself, it's the world of internet, people are getting aware.

[@Sky22_00]

I thought I was the only one going through this awareness. It’s good to see others are waking up as well.

[@comparativereligiondailynews]

@@Sky22_00 Are you brother Muslim or Atheist ?

[@comparativereligiondailynews]

Are you Atheist bro ?

[@a.k.7341]

NO human being deserves to be sexually harmed EVER. God would not create something just to torture it

[@coldman5149]

​@@a.k.7341 Who said anything regarding sexual harm

[@nailanoorein2086]

The topic of slavery is one of my biggest doubts regarding Islam. I'm not satisfied with the answer.

[@lordtaseen2947]

Slavery was a fact in the world before technology Plato said that "until work works itself, slavery is morally justified" some 1500 years before Islam. Islam couldn't just stop slavery, so it regulated/ controlled slavery

[@sunniwarrior270]

Slavery was in practice for 99.999% of the time of worlds history. It was only recently some few centuries that slavery was abolished, it was about liberalism and liberalism is cancer.

[@Nevebrownie]

Then please leave islam

[@abdurrahmanqureshi3030]

Every religion had slavery. King Solomon had thousands of concubines.

[@youtubeshadowbannedme]

@@abdurrahmanqureshi3030 concubines =/= slavery

[@RazHafeez]

Why couldn't Allah have just said, plain and simple, "It's not okay to own another human being as property"?

[@iceseic]

@Wasim Ahmed “And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember; then is there anyone who will remember” quran 54:17 I'm getting mixed signal here??

[@RazHafeez]

@@mr.rabbit6166 Do you mean Allah couldn’t work a miracle, so that abolishing slavery would, in fact, help the Arab economy?

[@guylusac1937]

He literally answers that throughout the video and made it very clear at 7:00. Apply yourself!

[@RazHafeez]

@@guylusac1937 As I said to Mr Rabbit above, do you mean Allah couldn’t work a miracle, so that abolishing slavery would, in fact, help the Arab economy?

[@RazHafeez]

@@guylusac1937 I find it very strange that Allah can do things like create a universe, he can bring forth a spring of water (the story of Zam Zam), he can split the moon in two, but abolishing slavery? Nah, that’s too difficult for Allah! 🤷🏽‍♂️ Maybe Allah needs to apply Himself!

[@shahnawazalam6437]

How come its haram to consume alcohol but own slaves and concubines?

[@ak332]

@Murari Chaudhary ya because in jannat its purified without having any affect on mind

[@ak332]

@Murari Chaudhary yes

[@nord7556]

@Murari Chaudhary You believe in 'Aatma' or Soul, that's the exact thing, after you die you your soul leaves the body and enters a different dimensions and since your body has been left behind the chemical properties of Alcohol won't affect the functioning of your mind since your sould is independent from the body and it's organs. No rocket science, just pure common sense. Simple enough?

[@nord7556]

@Murari Chaudhary 'Assumption'. Ever heard about it?

[@nord7556]

@Murari Chaudhary And you are the Einstein of modern world, instead of trying to comprehend the metaphor I stated, you are picking up on an otherwise feeble 'assumption'. considering the fact that assumptions may be half true and half wrong at the same time. Ever had a healthy discussion with someone on the internet? I guess no.

[@saunak9183]

Can't believe people need God's guidance to figure out if slavery and especially sexual slavery is sinful and immoral.

[@bunny9489]

Unfortunately…

[@eiadds9546]

If you are an atheist there would be no reason not to

[@bunny9489]

People are trying hard to prove that Islam allows something that is just their own desires. There is not even a single Hadith where it’s said 100% you can sleep with your slaves and make them pregnant. And from my knowledge the prophet pbuh didn’t have not even one kid from a slave woman. And he had slaves And about the Quranic verses, it is not always as it sounds. Just as people say Islam promotes killing bcs Quran has said it… but that’s not true

[@bunny9489]

@@NRFP please do send the hadiths that you are referring to. Thank you

[@trappedenvy9413]

Morals come from religion so nice try

[@onelifeuseit]

As a practicing Muslim I do appreciate Dr Shabir but unfortunately the answer I was searching for only brought more doubt. I struggle to grasp the fact so many things in Islam are Haram I.e eating pork , sex or relationship Before marriage , thought crime, homosexuality , polyandry , anal intercourse , etc. etc BUT TO OWN ANOTHER HUMAN BEING AND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE INTIMACY with a vulnerable human being is HALAL. Very male preferential not to mention the polygamy or the marriage of young women to males 10years+ older than the girl/women being a norm. This video only brought more questions needing to be answered.

[@user-fu4tb2vb7q]

Come to Christianity it’s pretty nice over here and we’re chilling! Everyone knows the Quran is just a knockoff fake Bible!

[@rjjs1244]

To make matters fun Allah promise his male followers 72 Virgins!!!! And to the females followers that majority of yall will be in hell... My brother leave this man made religion

[@nolife8209]

I have been at your place. I remember watching this vid i think bout 2 years ago? The answers left me feeling uncomfortable.....and unsatisfied. Looked for answers, and I yet have to find a satisfying one. And this led to me leaving the religion. You know it's funny when people think I was under educated bout islam, and got a misrepresented version of islam, when it is not the case. They can't seem to believe that i have valid reasons for doing what i did.

[@wawariro2247]

you left islam or you found answers ? if you found tell me please

[@wawariro2247]

@@nolife8209 did you became atheist ? and where are you from

[@electro639]

As a Muslim, I'm not satisfied with his answer. We had slaves and just gave them more rights, but still practised slavery... what our hands own. Allah should've ordered not to have slaves.

[@Technology-of-You]

For allah, idol worship seemed more inhumane than s3x-slavery practiced by arabs

[@rerqxi812]

no, the only reason why women and children were slaves is because the deserts of arabia would show them no mercy. they would be vulnerable to the wolves of arabia and therefore were under the guidance of muslims, they were slaves by name only, since the sahabi allowed slaves to be virtually free and created plenty of ways for slaves to be granted freedom in a society where slavery was a norm. Marriage, Conversion, working, and other reasons can graint you freedom which was unheard of at the time. Islam treated slavery like a disease such as alcoholism, it can't be cured in one night, therefore a 3 step program is created to cure the disease. And yes, Islam viewed slavery as a social disease. surely Allah knows best, if he didn't let the Prophet pbuh and his companions look after the women and children who were at risk for prostitution, being an actual slave in another persons ownership or dying from starvation, lack of protection and more and he didn't let them keep them for a certain amount of time after/during the war, then wouldn't you say how unmerciful that is? wouldn't you think otherwise? surely, Allah knows best. the ''slaves'' were treated like brothers and sisters, not animals. this is only during war tho

[@Technology-of-You]

@@rerqxi812 Muslims were the only wolves of deserts of Arabia. Those women and children became slaves only bcs followers of Islam killed their fathers, husbands and brothers.

[@rerqxi812]

@@Technology-of-You what? sorry that doesn’t make sense, the women and children were prisoners of war, and afterwards they were temporarily taken in and LOOKED after. it’s really annoying to explain this bc people are just gonna keep saying ‘oMg there’s nO justificaTioN for slAvery why would the Muslims dO thAt??’ when FIRST OF ALL, this was only during war, and the meaning ‘slave’ in the Quran DOESN’T EVEN correspond to the modern term meaning. it’s only by name, in this case meaning ‘under the protection of ‘ ‘, and not someone who’s owned. they only took the women and children in so they could be protected, and in exchange do a little bit of work or that every now and then. they were given the same rights as any other person, alongside having even MORE rights. in this case, it’s the fact that the ‘slaves’ can be set free whenever they’re ready, and there are loads of different ways. would you rather the women and children not be taken in by the Muslims like this, and die out in the open or be taken in by ACTUAL slave owners? Allah let Prophet Muhammad pbuh and his companions do this as an act of mercy

[@redx11x]

If you invade another country, destroy it, kill its people, why should you not be enslaved for your crimes. You should be forced to rebuild that country and serve your captor.

[@umarmansoory6642]

You can try to defend as much as you can but it does not justify.

[@truhabits7338]

Who are you to justify. What did you expect them to do with captives of war, kill them?. And he explains that this is a different kind of slavery. If there was a kinder word, it would be preferred.

[@folaranmifawaz3518]

@@truhabits7338 God bless you bro❤❤

[@shaheedbhaghatsingh3974]

@@folaranmifawaz3518 Killing them would have been better than making them sx slvs Abdool

[@shaheedbhaghatsingh3974]

@@truhabits7338 Killing them would have been better than making them sx slvs Abdool

[@truhabits7338]

@@shaheedbhaghatsingh3974 Easier to say killing them would be better when you are not the one on the spot. Besides this was a different kind of slavery, for lack of a better word. God knew best the circumstances at the time and what strategy was best

[@mrvivekprasadkushwaha]

Justification for slavery is also crime .

[@rerqxi812]

wdym?

[@omarel-rasheedy9307]

According to... you?

[@omarel-rasheedy9307]

@Just Experiment slavery is acceptable in Christianity and judaism. So what are you emplying by "terrorist"? Islam abolished slavery with its laws for slavery.

[@omarel-rasheedy9307]

@Just Experiment islam made for certain rules. If you strike a slave they are to be freed. Slaves had the right to put themselves up for ransom to be set free. By the time Omar Ibn Khatab was the leader of the muslims, there were hardly any slaves left.

[@omarel-rasheedy9307]

@Just Experiment well I also don't wanna homeless, yet there are homeless people. God tells us to donate to the poor... he doesn't ABOLISH homelessness. Everything is a test for God's creation. That is the reason for evil in this world. For God to test us... your point is so hallow and vague.

[@bakuljavadekar6767]

If Islam was only an improvement upon the existing practices of the time, it means that it was contextual and not eternal! It's teachings were only applicable to those times and not anymore.

[@khairulbashar5902]

Thanks. Nice point.

[@rvkrml]

Except most of the scientific factors have jus been discovered in the late 20 and 21st century so

[@dhrubamaitra7545]

@@rvkrml LOL READ HISTORY

[@RishaadKhan]

@@rvkrml The big bang verse wasn't actually a description of the big bang we have today from the actual model, the belief was also held by other ancient civilizations (Like the Sumerians) before the Qur'an, that the Earth and everything were one thing before they were separated (Not the big bang, the Earth was formed afterwards, not already formed). Embryology in the Qur'an could be traced to the Greeks. Life arising from water already existed as a concept from you guessed it - another civilization before the Qur'an. Many other things found can be forced interpretations and translations like the verse they take saying that it says iron comes from meteorites when it only mentions that Allah sent down iron. We also knew this already as King Tutankhamun had a dagger made from iron from a meteorite. Many more things can be assessed. On the other hand, when we look at stories of Noah's Ark, we see it as a myth found in Sumerian tales. When we see mentions of hellfire, we see earlier on that the Torah has nothing to do with hell as a place of eternal torment and barely focuses on the afterlife. The word jahannam comes from the Hebrew "gei ben hinnom", the cursed Valley of the Son of Hinnom, a real place which Jesus also mentioned where wicked were buried and people threw their trash away. Descriptions of hellfire found in Islam came along in the Christian apocryphal texts in terms of the Abrahamic section of things. Jesus speaking from his cradle was part of the apocryphal texts of Christianity.

[@MS-lz8xq]

@@RishaadKhan Then how about the body of pheroh wouldn't get digested but the body would still be preserved is this mentioned the bible? The speed of light mentioned in the Quran is it Mentioned in the bible? The separation of two rivers where one river doesnt mix with the other which was discovered recently it was mentioned in the Quran not bible so many more how would you answer this?

[@mhharismir8976]

By that logic all the Islamic rulings that are inconsistent with 21st century morality should be revoked

[@adnanfakhar212]

I am still confused about concubine issue and it still doesn't make any sense to me. May God forgive us all and lead us to the right path. Amen!

[@nothanks8594]

There is NO concubine in Islam 24:31-32

[@ahmedfaiyaz7923]

@@nothanks8594 There is. You can have female slaves as your concubine. But it is prohibited now. It is discouraged in Islam.

[@saidacasa8342]

There is و ما ملكت أيمانكم

[@nothanks8594]

@@saidacasa8342 Yes and it Dosent mean slave or concubine

[@purplestripes4076]

@@nothanks8594 Who does it refer to then

[@gut844]

I'm muslim but find this fucked up

[@revivalist355]

Are you even a true Muslim then? Islam means submission. If you question and reject it's commandments, what does that make you then?

[@achiburshakib5804]

@@revivalist355 Give your daughter as a slave 😒🙄

[@ZEN_180]

@@revivalist355 💀💀A Person with a brain

[@QuranAISync]

ive never heard such weak arguments... they could abolish slavery at once AND leave a choice/option to continue working for your master. there are plenty of hadith showing the Prophet and the companions taking slave girls as concubines

[@rafaelc9299]

Surah 90 verse. 11. But he did not brave the ascent. Verse 12. And what will explain to you what the ascent is? 13. THE FREEING OF A SLAVE . 14. Or the feeding on a day of hunger. 15. An orphan near of kin. 16. Or a destitute in the dust. Surah 2 verse 177 Righteousness does not consist of turning your faces towards the East and the West. But righteous is he who believes in God, and the Last Day, and the angels, and the Scripture, and the prophets. Who gives money, though dear, to near relatives, and orphans, and the needy, and the homeless, and the beggars, and for the FREEING OF SLAVES ; those who perform the prayers, and pay the obligatory charity, and fulfill their promise when they promise, and patiently persevere in the face of persecution, hardship, and in the time of conflict. These are the sincere; these are the pious. Surah 9 verse 60 “ Charities are for the poor, and the destitute, and those who administer them, and for reconciling hearts, and for FREEING SLAVES , and for those in debt, and in the path of God, and for the traveler in need-an obligation from God. God is All-Knowing, Most Wise”

[@georginathompson3788]

You can ban alcohol, eating pork, and praying to other Gods people have worshipped for generations and hold dearly…but slavery…meh 😒.

[@Theunknownpast_official]

You get mixed up with slavery which America had with slavery according to Islam. In Islam slaves will be free after 7 years and they will be given food, shelter, etc.

[@VALLAERION]

@@Theunknownpast_official You're not making it sound good

[@Theunknownpast_official]

@@VALLAERION there’s much more too it, I’m not a Islamic teacher.

[@AA123TD]

Look what abolishing slavery at once did in the US. Civil War and over a century of racism that has inspired many evils such as the holocaust. I'd also like to point out the similarities to indentured servitude that followed abolition and the capitalist system in which it seeks for people to remain in debt while working hourly to pay off your debts. Only multimillionaires are somewhat free.

[@blackngold007]

I rather smoke weed than own slaves... guess which ones halal and which one isn't XD

[@husseinahmed627]

Usually, I agree with Shabir, but I disagree with this issue. Allah clearly prohibits alcohol in the Quran. Why Allah did not clearly prohibit slavery as well? By the way, majority of Muslims today believe that enslaving female prisoners of war is pemissible.

[@thephilosophersjourney2595]

Majority? Where did you get this info?🤔

[@robotnitchka]

I wonder how these scholars would justify Arab RSF soldiers enslaving black Sudanese women, since all is fair in 'love' and war...

[@daraamagi6286]

I was always taught that Mohammad did not own slaves and he freed any given to him. I think a lot of people are taught this. But it isn't true. And aside from the immorality of owning slaves..why would a prophet need to own slaves. Surely a prophet would have people freely volunteering to serve him.

[@rjjs1244]

Finally sum1 that gets it... islam is a man made religion that made one man very powerful, wealthy and famous!!!!

[@Technology-of-You]

A slave woman of muhammad even drank his urine also. i read somewhere

[@rjjs1244]

@Free Palestine 🇵🇸 what does that have to do with that? She is making a valid point why would a so calk prophet from God need slaves for? All the prophets in the abrahamic religions did own slaves but why do islam have slave? The norm of the society you live in doesn't define a prophet of God. If that is so then there wouldn't be a prophet on earth that God would use. Slavery is immorally wrong how didn't allah know that?

[@daraamagi6286]

@Free Palestine 🇵🇸 I'm pretty educated..and I know the answers. I'm not the one looking dumb here.

[@wawariro2247]

@@daraamagi6286 you left islam or you found answers ? if you found tell me please

[@ayushpanwar9507]

This answer makes no sense. Quran is said to be relevant till eternity and now they are just changing statements.

[@sunniwarrior270]

Slavery is good.

[@ibtisammmm]

Right

[@Famemusicoffical]

💯

[@manzoorahmadwani1945]

Where

[@eros727]

No you’re misunderstanding what the relevancy was meant by. There are things that were only relevant during that time , and there are things that would be relevant for all times and things that will only be relevant in future timeframes. That’s what’s meant by for all times. We still were given the gift of reason for a reason.

[@yasnrohan]

“Not suitable for this time and place.” Either the whole book is or the whole book is not!

[@happycamper9289]

Unfortunately, this isn’t an adequate explanation. The *prophet* even traded slaves. Why should we be okay with that?

[@bayreuth79]

Who did ban slavery? Christians. William Wilberforce. Who was the first person to argue against it? Gregory of Nyssa. Shabir, as usual, is trying to put a positive spin on a heinous practice

[@englishlessonswithtracy1488]

So the more slaves you own the better. That way you can free one every time you wish to make a mistake.

[@pessimistkai5569]

I don't get your point. Are you being sarcastic? It's similar to do a good deed after you have done something bad. No one "wishes" to make a mistake.

[@andin3720]

That’s why one should always keep as many slaves as he afford. In case he does a sin, he can just repay it by releasing a slave. Note: Owning a human being/ slave is not a sin in islam.

[@ASH-ep3td]

i love how he just dismisses slavery because it's "better treatment"

[@rafaelc9299]

Surah 90 verse. 11. But he did not brave the ascent. Verse 12. And what will explain to you what the ascent is? 13. THE FREEING OF A SLAVE . 14. Or the feeding on a day of hunger. 15. An orphan near of kin. 16. Or a destitute in the dust. Surah 2 verse 177 Righteousness does not consist of turning your faces towards the East and the West. But righteous is he who believes in God, and the Last Day, and the angels, and the Scripture, and the prophets. Who gives money, though dear, to near relatives, and orphans, and the needy, and the homeless, and the beggars, and for the FREEING OF SLAVES ; those who perform the prayers, and pay the obligatory charity, and fulfill their promise when they promise, and patiently persevere in the face of persecution, hardship, and in the time of conflict. These are the sincere; these are the pious. Surah 9 verse 60 “ Charities are for the poor, and the destitute, and those who administer them, and for reconciling hearts, and for FREEING SLAVES , and for those in debt, and in the path of God, and for the traveler in need-an obligation from God. God is All-Knowing, Most Wise”

[@Blueeclipse.]

Slaves where a part of Arabian society if the prophet saw just straight out banned it there would be a lot of homless misplaced jobless slaves so he promoted the freeing of them & gave them rights also not just anyone can be enslaved only prisoners of war no free man can be enslaved no one can be Born into slavery you had to clothe them & feed them from what you ate & treat them kindly so it was definitely not the systemic slavery of the west when you think of slavery

[@Communitychoud]

This passage in the Quran really puts me off the religion and it does to an extent feel man made as it benefits men. Even the whole dividing the inheritance .. men get more etc. I really don’t know how many haven’t picked up on this topic and I have to go around holding this in my heart whilst people around me try to force religion down my throat. I believe in a God but I definitely cannot follow Islam blindly. They could ban alcohol etc but they couldn’t ban this ? Allowing the man to marry multiple but then saying stick to one or marry whoever your right hand possesses? Surely all knowing god knew people would abuse these quotes.

[@emar_mora]

Watch mufti menk Video on womens rights. He also talked about the inheritance issue and he made perfect sense.

[@dcjkl8088]

@@snowwhiterosered8571 f off with that psycho

[@MS-lz8xq]

Allowing the man to marry Multiple? Those were the times where wars were common, and Men lost lives how about the women living single handed after husbands death and managing house and children? Shouldn't they get a partner?, Islam clearly mentions marry one, And marry more than one only when you are in a condition to take care your wives!!

[@zeinabb3628]

Men get more inheritance because they have to financially look after their family. Meanwhile a woman’s money is her’s and no one is entitled to it. God recommends men to marry one , however back in the days of war many women were left widows and many kids were left orphans. Therefore they were allowed to many up to for if they were financially capable. These rules were never made to benefit men. It benefited women more than anything. You’re not supposed to follow anything blindly. In fact you are in courage’s to learn in Islam. Without knowledge you’re always going to have doubts. It’s easy to learn. Go on KZbin you will find plenty of scholars to educate you . That’s if you wish.

[@MeekoBeeko]

@@snowwhiterosered8571 david wood is a clown lmao, atleast recommend her something good

[@revertrevertz5438]

Oh slavery is an “act of mercy”, that’s nice

[@omerali2690]

I live in Pakistan, and here there are land lords. So the socioeconomic system is like this... There is a land lord, who owns a lot of property. There live many uneducated poor families, who work at those fields... The story of those families is this... They get some money, and food and clothing and they dont know anything else... If you give them, even a million rupees, they would waste all that money over prostitutes and drugs... So what happens is this.. They live there and work at those fields. Their children, if landlord is generous, live at those homes, help in daily affairs and also they are educated there. . some of such kids are good in education so they have more opportunities in life... And thats how life is... My grandfather was like those kids and his education was fascilitated by the land lord. Now tell me, isnt the condition of these people similar to those of slaves? If yes, what alternative system do you propose for these people?

[@omerali2690]

@Mohamud Ahmed Btw, Quran gives only two options. Enslavement is not the option given in Quan.

[@omerali2690]

@Mohamud Ahmed Quran talks about the reality of matters, as they were, but does not approve those conditions. Each command in Quran talking about slaves is about free them, not that you can/ should keep them. Even about female slaves, Quranic command is that, either you should marry them, or you should get themselves married to a suitable guy. About male slaves, Quranic command is.. If he wants freedom, ALLAH orders muslims to either set them free, freely or to take their price from them and set them free. These are clear commands in Quran.. About war prisoners, Quranic command is... Set them free as a show of good gesture or set them.free after taking some ransom.. If there is mention of prophet making people slaves in history, the validity of that history should be questioned, or it should be interpreted that at that time, this was the only practical option, and that thing was done out of necessity not that it was a regular option, because Quran is very clear... Quran condemns slavery. Quran have orders to individual muslims that they should free their slaves. Quran have orders that Muslim state should use the tax money to free the slaves.

[@achrafagermoune2417]

@Mohamud Ahmed perfectly said. Exactly!

[@revertrevertz5438]

Mohamud Ahmed Or you can set them free, and give provisions for a restructuring of society. You know, like the US did with Germany and Japan after WW2. Even invest in them, as in the Marshal plan. But yeah, maybe having had Germans and Japanese enslaved would have been way more merciful as your religion suggests.

[@sobeliever1638]

As "good"people??? The only thing I would I agree with in the conclusion is that good people would not behave as Allah allows. The turmoil is the real truth that would make a Muslim reject these teachings.

[@rafaelc9299]

Surah 90 verse. 11. But he did not brave the ascent. Verse 12. And what will explain to you what the ascent is? 13. THE FREEING OF A SLAVE . 14. Or the feeding on a day of hunger. 15. An orphan near of kin. 16. Or a destitute in the dust. 17. Then he becomes of those who believe, and advise one another to patience, and advise one another to kindness

[@CagataySahin1]

@rafaelc9299 Dude, thanks for sharing. I think it seems Allah explains that why slavery continued from 7th century up to 19th century and even Muslims kept doing slavery after the Prophet. And also why there are still poverty,wars and massacres in the world. I'm just thinking out loud.

[@rajatrj5714]

Islam as a religion offend by everything but Ashamed of nothing. .

[@bigelowtech]

Taosim, Buddhism and old native american religions all condemned and abolished slavery. Thousands of years before Islam. I'm pretty sure there are more examples.

[@suleimandeadaccount6225]

Yeah, Islam abolished slavery too, it only allowed to slave the prisoners of war who tried to kill you. Imagine being a captive, you had only two options: get killed or remain in prison for ages. while having a horrible life. Here Islam gave a better option: to give them a better job, food, shelter & clothing. Give me a solution better than what Islam gave 😘 And please don't be dumb and say that we should free the criminals so they can create more issues 😂

[@bigelowtech]

@@suleimandeadaccount6225 the Islamic holy wars saw Muslim soldiers attack villages, unprovoked, killing the men and boys who wouldn't convert and fight with them, while also enslaving the girls, marrying and impregnating them. All verifiable through Hadith in al bukhari. So what you're saying is; it's ok to kill the family of a person, without any provocation, then when said person tries to defend himself and fight you, you enslave him and force him to be Muslim. And all this is "good" because you give him food and clothes? Do you have any idea what Buddhism did? Or native americans? Or old norse? Guess not. How sad your response is. May God help you

[@bigelowtech]

@@suleimandeadaccount6225 it's good you think this. Because this is not common Islamic practice at the time following Muhammad's death. And even in many Islamic countries today. I'm glad you think different

[@officialdazer]

@@suleimandeadaccount6225 Islam has a long history of slavery, even notable traditions, such as Harems, most of those women were raped and slaves who came from all over the world as a result of Islamic conquest

[@hassanlabyad4082]

@@bigelowtech Tell us where hadith tell us to wage wars against nice people?

[@FABRlCE]

I understand Dr.Shabir you are representing Islam, But we all realize that telling a story in an innocent way, can never change what really happened! It's sad that you approach the action with era difference understanding, where was Allah? did he update it or did we update him?

[@Haq675]

If islam could have forbidden taking alcohol, outlawing interest and ordering veils for women, and all these things were common practice in that society, why is it silent on this despicable practice?

[@revivalist355]

Despicable according to who? You??

[@rakkhnaka]

@@revivalist355 According to any civilised person

[@Sleepy_asfff]

$exual slavery in Islam doesn’t exist. You deliberately took the opinion of only 1 scholar (Shabir Ally).

[@DBDalvi]

In India, major religious scriptures which existed before 5000 years considered slavery a dire sin and the Hindu rulers never practiced it. The slavery system was introduced by Muslim and Portuguese rulers after 10th century.

[@raiyaanjp]

Oh so krishna wasn't with 16000 females🙄

[@lokeshkhola7016]

@@raiyaanjp all girls was going to die so krishna helped those girls and those girls asked Krishna to become their husband

[@raiyaanjp]

@@lokeshkhola7016 then why some none muslim people have problem with 4 wives in Islam, because main purpose of Islam is avoid these gap ,that women were high in number so men are allowed to marry more than one because of these reason only

[@SupremeLeaderSahil]

@@raiyaanjp and marrying 4 wives isn't like just find 4 wives and marry them.... There are some conditions to follow, like first asking your first wife, then if other wife is poor or in bad condition, and etc... You can get it from internet

[@Dctv999]

@@raiyaanjp krishna never touched a single woman out of them..... Muhammad had 11 wives and number of slaves

[@Blackrose01330]

I'm thinking of leaving Islam because of this

[@pro-vk2pd]

Dont. Tbh brother i still dont know much about this topic but slapping woman isnt even allowed in islam so how come slavery is maybe there was a misinterpretation in that hadith even if it is strong allah know best

[@thephilosophersjourney2595]

Good bye

[@SwordofAllah1234]

Do you have any better Idea for captives of war??

[@Blackrose01330]

@@SwordofAllah1234 yes maybe don't enslave them and take them with you

[@Blackrose01330]

@@pro-vk2pd I won't leave Islam

[@mansurhallaj8568]

why not stop slavery at once? How come Allah allow his creation to be bought and sell

[@InsaneFacts220]

nothing explains why alcohol, gabbling etc were forbidden and slavery and sex slavery not , very weak arguments .

[@josukehigashikataofjojolio1851]

seems you never actually touched Quran

[@InsaneFacts220]

@@josukehigashikataofjojolio1851 ok argue me that i am wrong then

[@chikiwiki0807]

Man if that's not mental gymnastics then i don't know what is.

[@mephistopheles5327]

This is beyond gymnastics, its delussion

[@sAfgun123]

"Mental gymnastics". A phrase used by those who have zero counter arguments because they are only capable of comprehending simple ideas and explanations.

[@TheMagnificentGman]

This dude would clean up at the Olympics

[@restricter1577]

@Wasim Ahmed I think you have watched the video above? It tells you why slavery was allowed even though it was highly encouraged to free slaves.

[@quickjinx517]

Except that everything he said made total sense so you resort to calling it mental gymnastics because you either can't think of any counter-arguments or you can't face the truth

[@ismailmuhammedabdulle3172]

Lets not talk about other religions 'not banning slavery' since according to islam other religions are false!

[@rafaelc9299]

No according to Islam Judaism and Christianity are not false . Just misguided .

[@firewall6114]

In islam u can't sell a free man for slave its prohibited...and under united nations peace treaty we all r free ppl....it was different back then all kings had slaves but many muslim kings like mamluks who were slavekings and ruled over all muslims such honour was only granted by islam..infact they ruled for so long and had very prosperous dynasty. Also in general if there is peace treaty all residents irrespective of their religion must be protected.

[@bgggsht]

Ah yes, the youngest of three telling them that they are wrong

[@pridify]

@@firewall6114 why does islam need United Nation peace treaty to stop slavery? If this treaty never happened, is it okay for Islamic countries to still practice slavery?

[@nailanoorein2086]

I wish Islam banned taking slaves completely ,,,I know you can free them but still.the best thing would be to end it all together.. In browse times so many things were widespread burying baby girls,wine was made forbidden , certain rules were laid but why couldn't Allah tell that slavery was wrong and why couldn't it be forbidden altogether??

[@worldpeace9059]

You said many times in this video that Quran says so and so because it was suitable at that time/ it was widely acceptable at that time, etc. So if you think times has changed, don't you think Quran should also be changed to suit current times? Why do you still follow something which was meant for some other time frame?

[@ahmedmohiuddin4567]

Great point 👍

[@aju6580]

May I ask you a question politely ?. Who said Quran is outdated?. Please show us a single scientific fact which is incorrectly mentioned in Quran. He always say Quran says so n so is because neither Shabir ally nor me has the right to say whatever we want. When we talk about religious matters, let the Lord talk about it and Quran is the word of God. That is the reason why he say Quran says so n so. You have two ears and one tongue indicates listen a lot and speak less….

[@un1te4llppl]

@@aju6580 did u even hear his point. Don't be acting all offended. As if u tryna say with a big spin. Slavery is OK. Try to understand others. He is not offending u. Instead of enlightening him with understanding u counter attack with this b. S. Which is obvious. Your answer is politician like. Salaam alaikoem Allah akbar alhamdoelilah

[@aju6580]

@@un1te4llppl Same question towards you. Have you red my answer completely?. Do you have answer for my questions too?. I said as the time changes, Quran still remains as it is and it can be applied even in this era. Because Quran was trying to make a gradual reformation. In order to understand that one should read it from the beginning not from the middle as the blind reads. Hope my point is clear to you.

[@Abaddon-u1i]

@@aju6580 lol quran says Earth is flat and you say that it is based on Science😂😂

[@amayoka]

As an ex-Christian revert, this always clashes with Prophet Isa's teachings of kindness and love for everyone. It makes me uncomfortable

[@TheMagnificentGman]

What a horrible justification for such an evil act. You people will truly accept any mediocre 'explanation' to justify this kind of evil

[@quickjinx517]

Slavery was prevalent in every civilization at that time. The explanations in this video and the video they mentioned make perfect sense. Next time bring proper arguments to explain why setting rules and restrictions to slavery and gradually abolishing it is an evil act.

[@TheMagnificentGman]

@@quickjinx517 Everyone else was doing it so it was okay lol. What a brain dead, childish argument. If islam is from god then it should be held to a far higher moral standard than what every other civilization was doing.

[@quickjinx517]

@@TheMagnificentGman "If islam is from god then it should be held to a far higher moral standard than what every other civilization was doing." Exactly. Everyone else was doing it and Islam came to set rules and restrictions to slavery.

[@Solo.Gr8]

So in order to what we eat give them what we clothe cloth them we must have sexual relationship without consent otherwise we can't help them otherway....sounds absurd logic

[@naumankhan422]

The question of consent and multiple slaves will come under the state law as quran doesn't state it clearly. So i think its left upto the human judgement and law. I think Sexual Slavery system currently wont be enforced until there is catastrophic war and loss of men in the World so as women are 50 times more than men. This is stated in some hadith about war near end of times.

[@naumankhan422]

This question of consent, it is easier to accept sexual relationship with a stipulated slave without marriage when both have consent but really difficult to morally accept without consent. I think these questions are left upto state government to decide at times of catastrophic wars.

[@suleimandeadaccount6225]

@@naumankhan422 as far as I know one needs consent to be in a sexual relationship with slave

[@naumankhan422]

@@suleimandeadaccount6225 Wheres the text. There is no text i guess and hence its put on judgement of government.

[@suleimandeadaccount6225]

@@naumankhan422 its in a hadith I guess

[@took_err_jerbs1568]

As a black man, this particular point turned me away from Islam forever. How can I reconcile with the fact that my prophet bought, sold, and possessed slaves. How can the perfect example for all mankind simply abolish slavery?!? I’m sorry but we need to accept that we cannot have progress in society if we continue to follow guidance of a 7th century book.

[@took_err_jerbs1568]

@Free Palestine 🇵🇸 a Hindu?? Lmao! You sound so insecure. BTW, I’ve been to Palestine, you’ve probably never step foot on that land.

[@mukundha7621]

Oh don't forget Arab slave trade was the biggest of all in entire history more than what white man did and the most victim of Islamic swx slavery was black people that is why africa has more Muslims.

[@nickl8131]

Exactly. Not to mention the many many people that the prophet Muhammad had killed, for all sorts of different reasons.

[@bravanshin3194]

I'm very happy that you are intelligent and don't let them play with your mind ( like oh no islam tried to stop slavery step by step ,and says to free a slave when you commit a big sin and blabla)

[@leobabuphilipose6481]

Good man believe what your heart says. Muslims brothers will try to brainwash you with their sugar coated narrative. Many fundamentalist Islamist believe and continue to practice this behaviour. Example is yezidi women.

[@Buggyfilm]

Salam alaikum im a born muslims but i just found out about this, hoe is it that zina is haram (sx before marriage) but when its with a women slave then its halal. I mean ur awrah is exposed and so much more. Does that mean that prostitute are also halal or not. Please answer i am VERY confused

[@jabdi-isaaq6721]

Are we to conclude human consciousness is supreme to over any written texts?

[@rafaelc9299]

Surah 90 verse. 11. But he did not brave the ascent. Verse 12. And what will explain to you what the ascent is? 13. THE FREEING OF A SLAVE . 14. Or the feeding on a day of hunger. 15. An orphan near of kin. 16. Or a destitute in the dust. 17. Then he becomes of those who believe, and advise one another to patience, and advise one another to kindness

[@CatOfTiktok7]

No. Your morals don't conform to the next person's so your argument is skewed.

[@blackngold007]

AI > human brain > religious dogma

[@mayurdeshmukh3853]

Look at the starting point of his argument, "because all major religion has this custom so does the Islam" these are factually incorrect words. If you study the Eastern religions you wont find such non sense. Also this man goes long and long about freeing slaves but he reasonably leaves the topic how these people are made slaves. First Make people slaves and then free them and show how noble we are... a well narrated hypocrisy

[@showki]

I think you're from a minor religion 😂

[@billyjean7169]

You are a Hindu? What about caste?

[@billyjean7169]

India has the highest levels of slavery to date

[@jazzstyles1246]

Prophet Muhammad's time was not the beginning of the world.............Slavery was prevail at that time so at that time prophet initiated the freeing of slavery

[@gemgem974]

@@billyjean7169 First of all, it's not caste. It's Varna system. Varna system is an inherent part of human nature. Tell me, don't have teachers teaching in school? don't have you have police, army for your defense? the business class which provides employment to labourers? people who clean/ sweep the roads? If your teacher commands you to do something & at the same time a person who does the cleaning job in the school tells you to do another thing. Who would you obey & why? That is what varna system is. A Brahmin is a teacher. Kshatriya - warrior class. Vaishya - person who does business & shudra - sweepers/ cleaners.

[@chibulls182]

I've never heard someone talk so much without saying anything.

[@randomknowledge6268]

This channel has sooo much answers , this subject has been floating in my unconscious since 20.

[@janeeditdat6327]

They deserve a lot more subscribers. So they can spread the message

[@pmpm1841]

I like the channel, I think some videos were trying to please liberal Muslims, but overall it’s good 😁

[@naagnoolest]

PM PM من البلاد there’s no such thing as liberal Muslims. We’re all Muslims. Stop trying to split the ummah.

[@RameshKumar-qt7lo]

@Muhammad Hakim 😂😂😂 Be happy with your outdated ideology based on just haram & halal

[@pessimistkai5569]

@@RameshKumar-qt7lo much better than your religion's casteism

[@mjp-bi3re]

I want to know why Muhammad had so many wives, especially a child in Aisha. I have heard many explanations and none of them make any kind of moral sense. Kindly explain and thanks.

[@minionknight4828]

Firstly, Allah SW knows best. I'll try answer as best as I can. About the many wives, there were many reasons as to why. One is that some marriages were meant to foster relations eg his marriage to Maria the copt. Another reason(and more prominent in his marriages) was to widows for guardianship. See 7th century Arabia was like any other historical time, filled with war. And with war came widows and due to this, some worthless men would seek to take advantage of them, however if they were married and especially to the Prophet SAW no one would dare touch them. Also do you have an issue with having many wives? If yes I'll explain further. Btw his first wife was lady Khadeeja who was a wealthy merchant and employer to the Prophet SAW when she fell in love with him and proposed to him and he married her. She was also older than him. Now about his marriage to lady Aisha, the Hadith we have today are of a matter of dispute about the matter. Some scholars criticize the chain of narration to be erroneous since some narrators while others the content matter. If you consider other hadiths and sources which gives the age of her sister and use their age gap, you find she was in her twenties and she had also received any marriage proposal before. I personally do not agree she was 9. However, most daee today explain the 9 year version to eliminate any doubts and to cover the whole field and all possibilities that even if it was true then there was no issue.

[@sinstarkol7973]

Because women in early times couldnt provide for themselves and their children. Many men died in wars , so they too many women. Marriage was important for women. And in the case of the prophet it was more important. Because he had a message to convey. His wifes became scholars and narrated many things of the prophet. Some marriages were to end hostility between tribes. After marrying women of different tribes, the people of the tribe were honoured that the prophet choose them

[@blintzknight168]

minion knight well Muhhamad is the supposed to be the best man who ever lived so this a problem isnt it? Jews can say they dont consider their prophets role models, Christians only considered Jesus a role model.

[@weaponcontrol5971]

Most of his wives were either divorcee or widows and Aishas age is unknown some people say she was 9 and some people say that she was 18

[@weaponcontrol5971]

@The Astronomer there are evidence that says she is 18 or 19 for example her sister asma was born 27 years before hijra and aisha is 10 years younger so 27-10=17 but we will add plus 2 because the prophet (pbuh) married aisha 2 years after hijra so basically her age was 19 but the thing is many people say her age was 9 and many say her age was 18 or 19 so basically her age is considered unknown

[@kaziamin2374]

So Islam can ban interest outright , drinking outright but can’t ban slavery ? Ask yourself this question

[@kokori3271]

Yeah bro, but it seem to me logically banning slavery is much harder.

[@letsthink8245]

Wasn't drinking forbidden in a gradual manner? Watch videos for the alcohol in terms of Islam.

[@kaziamin2374]

@@letsthink8245 you mean alcohol was forbidden through Quran by stating that it is haram. Where slavery was not . No where in the Quran was mentioned owning slave was haram but it wasn’t the same for alcohol and interest even prophet owned slaves himself. Stop sugarcoating Islam.

[@crazymovierecaps6276]

​@@kaziamin2374First of all you can't compare alcohol and other sins to slavery. Slavery was the major mode of production 100 years before Islam and also during Islam. Prohibiting alcohol wouldn't have had any impact whastover to the society however prohibition of slavery would crash the economy. And in consequence to that nobody would've believed in the prophet. So for people to believe in this new prophet, some things were left as they were, only to be prohibited informally later on. Like slavery for example, Islam encourages through several times to free the slaves and it's one of the most pious acts in Islam.

[@mansurhallaj8568]

So Quran is time based?

[@augustus2722]

If you want to understand horrible principles of Islam towards non Muslims please read the book ‘Avarana’ by Byrappa. It is based on the true accounts and based on extensive research. Every non-Muslim has to understand this.

[@augustus2722]

@Abdullah Ibn Umar to avoid terrorism, voilence, atrocities on women etc and bring peace in this world

[@Erick-1130]

“You could not free all slaves at once” yes Allah could not do such a thing

[@indianatheist2023]

That's Why i Kicked Islam

[@nodekorumpodcastwithajdani3509]

I agree with the Dr Ally the practice was ok at that time. Disagreement come when it said Allah knows all Future, Past and Present then how come Allah didn't prohibit the practices. Why do we have to go back and reexamine and needs reinterpretation? Islam claims Allah is the creator and Knows all but failed to known this will be immoral in modern times.

[@user-ep1bk2cd4b]

LoL, ur understandings are low

[@nodekorumpodcastwithajdani3509]

@@user-ep1bk2cd4b 😂😂

[@Omar-rx6lk]

@@nodekorumpodcastwithajdani3509 we have free will

[@nodekorumpodcastwithajdani3509]

@@Omar-rx6lk "free will" is the most popular excuse is used when there is no answer.

[@Omar-rx6lk]

@@nodekorumpodcastwithajdani3509 it’s not an excuse we have free will

[@bilal716]

The Quran states in Surah 47:4 that captives of war were either to be ransomed or freed, no third options were available to Muslims (such as enslaving them). It seems like this verse was discarded in favor of ahadith and rulings which contradicted its clear precept.

[@suleimandeadaccount6225]

Listen brother, you are not an Islamic scholar, so please don't give your opinion based on your incomplete knowledge

[@bilal716]

@@suleimandeadaccount6225 many "islamic scholars" have said arrived at the same conclusion, maybe you should take your own advice

[@pmpm1841]

Cap’n Bilal ok who

[@trapezius77]

What about the verses talking about "what your right hands possess"? You are just going to discard those verses?

[@autorefresher1]

@@trapezius77 how does your right hand possess mean slaves?

[@honeydew472]

Everyone, the best video that explains this is on the Surat Al mustaqueen channel. This question was bugging me so much for so long and this video explained it properly.

[@Yassinu11]

Where is it , I'm so scared , can you send a link

[@honeydew472]

@@Yassinu11 I'll tryyy

[@honeydew472]

@@Yassinu11 here U go x

[@sheerinsumayya5183]

@mateo ms link please

[@sheerinsumayya5183]

@@honeydew472 can you provide the link?

[@nikhiljoshi7486]

Dr Shabbir is clearly a saner voice among others of his kind....

[@blacklivesmatter2083]

He’s a snake 🐍

[@indicrenaissance8126]

Why are you so dum'

[@coventrypunx1014]

He’s still making excuses tho

[@travelleryu]

Yah atleast he isn't openly praising owning sl@ves and r@ping them like Daniel Haqiqatjau does. But regardless he is still an islam apologist

[@Coraxiom]

Whatever the prophet did is generally allowed. This is not good since he did many evil things.

[@nxxpluto1191]

The argument that "this is just how it was back then" or that "slaves had more humane treatment compared to other empires" just doesn’t sit right with me. slavery is an evil act however you try to spin it and don’t we, as muslims, believe that islam is a complete religion ??? so how come no ayahs in the qur’an or hadiths ever explicitly forbid it like all other sins that were all common within society during those times ??

[@Mr_Osama612]

There not slave there basically prisoners whit rights that we’re prisoners of war that got caught and instead of killing them since they had no prison to store them they just made them indentured servant that was up to you to set free and most did if they weren’t a threat but they could also demand their freedom by ransoming themselves but today it’s not permissible senses Muslims are required to follow the law.

[@asoorahammed4836]

@Spell Check yes you are 100 percent correct all the religious text are like that its so obvious people created gods

[@abdi1385]

Why would there be internal turmoil in practicing classical Islam in modern times? I don't understand.

[@nasimadawi1510]

I love how you answer all the necessary questions that conflict people today thank you so much

[@bangtanshook4271]

@not sure no not that jahil.

[@j1o2n3a4s5k6]

Hmm I am amazed that you managed to listen to this and feel like all your questions are answered… what questions where you having and how where they answered here ?

[@djiboutidjibouti1724]

I am still looking forward to the answer if we refer our late sheik Ahmed deedat as spiritual Father

[@xisaabiyosaynis8479]

Are you Somali

[@DDDSSDDDSSDDDSS]

@@xisaabiyosaynis8479 no, he just want djibouti

[@jumajasjas2925]

the economy would crush.... so he chose economy over morality?

[@Mr_Osama612]

They did choose morality they were stopping the supply of slaves and giving slaves who were owned before Islam human rights and a chance of freedom they only slaves who were being made were prisoners of war who wanted to harm the muslims and people at that time. They lost their individual rights but kept their human rights

[@rafaelc9299]

[9:60] Charities are for the poor, and the destitute, and those who administer them, and for reconciling hearts, and for FREEING SLAVES and for those in debt, and in the path of God, and for the traveler in need-an obligation from God. God is All-Knowing, Most Wise.

[@sadatkhan2012]

What's been wronged with morality? 😐 You guys don't hear the entire video. What about a employ who hears his boss... Is that immoral?

[@account_nameonline6420]

@@sadatkhan2012 yes owning people is immoral

[@antonellodisotto6969]

22“The lamp of the body is the eye. If your eye is sound, your whole body will be filled with light; 23but if your eye is bad, your whole body will be in darkness. And if the light in you is darkness, how great will the darkness be.

[@alyzahs]

This video is making a lot of people use their brains without blindly following like sheep, to eventually leave Islam 😂

[@learnwithnayabandwasim316]

Two very clever words used in this discussion are classical Islam. Lol

[@coventrypunx1014]

And it’s amazing how all the modern Muslims 😂😂😂 fail to notice this

[@amitlec]

Most illogical argument even in modern world . Pls stop justifying everything.

[@afsahiqbal424]

They will never teach you about this part of islam

[@bryanbradley6871]

Sometimes it's better to be honest and say the time period was completely different and people believed in things that would be seen as bad according to Western standers

[@bryanbradley6871]

@Bs well in some African and Asian countries it's Normal and the places that see it as bad have been influenced by the west

[@bryanbradley6871]

@Who Cares? Mohmmed was just like Robert E Lee and Adolf Hitler all in one. (A white man who owned black slaves and is responsible for the deaths of millions of Jews and other people)

[@HumanNature9870]

Even the "western countries" approved slavery. 😂 Also, winner soldiers or warriors had/have often thought that they deserve to enjoy all the resources of the loser side... citizens included (sadly). 😕🧐

[@crestfire8008]

@@HumanNature9870 the difference is, the "western countries" are ashamed of their slavery history. Unlike Islam who continues to justify this horrible practice! At least the "western countries" realized how inhumane it was, stopped it once and for all. The very "western people" died in the war to abolish slavery. Turns out "western countries" have better morals than whatever Islam can ever produce

[@HumanNature9870]

@@crestfire8008 Nowadays, many people are ashamed of their slavery history, it is not an exclusive issue of certain religions, cultures, etc. And there are some people (of any race, age, religion, etc) with certain psychiatric disorders who think slavery is okay (sometimes you might watch any TV news or documentaries related).

[@bigboyrambo2009]

The Quran is the last book till the end of time, so I don't understand what this man is saying

[@bekindyall5555]

Me here trying to figure out a way to try to explain my frnd how and why slavery was not banned and why n how concubbines were allowed to be kept . Ps if anyone knows about this subject thoroughly, please comment, i have alot of qstns

[@Djcreed4k]

Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost. Quran 47: 4. Options: 1. set them free 2. sell them I don't see an option where you can keep them, but I think u still can keep them but its probably a makroh (something that Allah doesn't appreciate u doing or better not doing). if Allah said to set them free immediately then they would die of starvation and no shelter, so God made slavery more like an employee where someone works for someone else but have the same rights and the same respect, you're not allowed to be harsh with them. Actually Islam slowly started to make Slavery gradually phase away. And if your friend is still is not satisfied with the answer then say(that is if they are non-Muslims) at least our religion did something about Slavery not like any others.

[@sanaparween7615]

Me too , am so confused about it

[@lalithkumar715]

Brother you won't get answers because Quran was not really told by GOD , it was book wrote as per the lifestyle of Muhammad. Because no God would tell such statements even its 1400 years ago or 140000 years. Cause if God tells things based on things happening at that particular time then he would not have decided muhammed as last messenger cause things would change over time and would have sent a new messenger as per today laws . But he didn't. So remember Muhammad intelligently inserted Allah in his book cause no one would follow him that's why he had to use the name of God

[@ShubhamShubhra]

It is a book of faith created to tame the wild hordes of tribals in Arabia 1400 years ago. It is a book designed to appeal to the most basic instincts of men (not women) and is indeed nothing short of a Manual for enticing and recruiting soldiers. I believe that people are inherently capable of being kind or cruel to each other with or without a book from the sky. Burn all the books that divide you from your own. Throw them away. Let Islam die, let religion die but, don't force it. God and religion and stories of heaven and hell give people hope. If you try to take away someone's God (source of hope) by force (including a forceful argument) they will retaliate.

[@kafiamadeus7351]

Says a hindu where r4p3 is common ​@@ShubhamShubhra

[@leobabuphilipose6481]

She is trying hard to not get offended. Beauty of Islam.

[@johnmonteiro5825]

Slavery is generally worst for women

[@esfanintan]

there is no comparative term of slavey from a slave point.

[@MsAmyHope]

Slavery still exists however changed its form.

[@ajaj9059]

Saying it exist in another form does not mean one should work on fixing it.. It is like one kid saying other kid has done similar bad. both should work on it. Other relig had bad things they acknowledged and reformed it.

[@wanderingstar5270]

@@hadi8699 what on earth are you talking about? People are not put in prison by Americans these days for being prisoners of war

[@thedisgruntledharpist6699]

@@wanderingstar5270 Ofc they are put into prisons if they are 'prisoners' of war.

[@marcostation1000]

it did not chnage its form in the middle east, becasue of evil islamic of moahmed the pedofile.

[@Abdullah-ej3nu]

@@marcostation1000 Kid just because you don't live in the middle east doesn't means that anything you say is correct, I can make you look like a total clown here

[@esfanintan]

I am proud of you Sophia!!! I know Dr. Ally is your father but you are courageous for keep asking questions.

[@sonnen3900]

ISLAM is a LIE ...

[@sonnen3900]

@Roronoa Zoro hmm ...why ??? wanna debate me ??? ALLAH says sun and moon revolves and day and night occurs cause of that ..nowhere does ALLAH says EARTH revolves ...hmm all knowing ALLAH doesn't know earth revolves ..LOL

[@highlighter3334]

@@sonnen3900 21:30) Did the unbelievers (who do not accept the teaching of the Prophet) not realize that the heavens and the earth were one solid mass, then We tore them apart,28 and We made every living being out of water?29 Will they, then, not believe (that We created all this)? 28. From the wording of the text, it appears that at first the whole universe was a single mass of matter; then it was split into different parts and the earth and the other heavenly bodies were formed. For more details, please see (Surah HaMim, E.Ns 13-15). 29. From the wording of the text, it appears that Allah made water the cause and origin of life. See also (Surah An- Nur, Ayat 45).21:31) And We placed firm mountains on earth lest it should sway with them,30 and We made wide paths31 in them that they may find their way;32 30. For explanation, see (E. N. 12 of Surah An-Nahl). 31. “Broad highways” are the passes between high mountains and the valleys and ravines made by the rivers in the mountainous regions and other natural ways that connect different regions on the earth. 32. This is a very meaningful sentence. It may mean that the people may find paths for traveling on the earth, and it may also mean that the wisdom that underlies the skill and the system of their creation may guide them to the reality. 21:32) and We made the sky a secure canopy;33 and yet they turn away from these Signs.34 33. For explanation, see (Surah Al-Hijr, E. Ns 8 and 10-12). 34. That is, those signs which are in the sky.21:33) It is He Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Each of them is floating in its orbit.35 35. The use of the words kullun (all) and yasbahun (float) in the plural (for more than two) indicates that not only the sun and the moon but all the heavenly bodies are floating in their own separate orbits and none of them is fixed or stationary. These (verses 30-33) are capable of being interpreted in the modern scientific terms in accordance with the present day conceptions of Physics, Biology and Astronomy. Here it should also be noted that( verses 19-23) refute shirk while verses 30-33 present positive proofs of Tauhid. They imply that the creation and regular functioning of the universe clearly show that it is the work of One All- Powerful Creator, and no sensible person can say that it has been created as a mere pastime for the sake of fun. When the fact is this and you see proofs of the doctrine of Tauhid all around you, in the earth and heavens, why do you reject the message of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and demand other signs from him. Read the translation as well and plz don't connect two different topics , like , some people Say that Islam says kill disbelievers no it's Not like that let me explain u In Verse 191 Chapter 2 of the Holy Quran, God says: “And kill them wherever you encounter them and expel them from where they expelled you. Oppression is indeed worse than murder. Do not fight them at the Masjid Al-Haram (Ka’aba) unless they fight you therein. If they fight you, then kill them; such is the penalty of the disbelievers. this verse was revealed when Muslims on the Hajj pilgrimage were attacked and killed by the Quraysh tribe who had signed a treaty with the Prophet to not attack the pilgrims, But no one bothers to understand. The Quran has been revealed in parts over a period of 23 years to Prophet Muhammad. So, the verses are situational. Every chapter in the Quran mentions the location where the verse was sent to the Prophet. Also, the Quran is not compiled in a linear format. The same situation has been touched upon in an earlier chapter and part of it is anecdotally spoken about in a chapter much later because the Holy Quran isn’t a book of stories. It’s a book of lessons and morals. No one mentions the verses that follow because then the Islamophobic agenda would be lost. In Verse 193 of Chapter 2, God says: “And fight them until there is no more oppression and the religion is for God, but if they cease, then no aggression is permitted except against the transgressors.” How is this any different from Lord Krishna telling Arjun in the Bhagavad Gita to fight as his dharmic duty? BG 2.33: (O Arjuna! If you do not fight for this religion and turn away from your religion, then you will lose your fame and glory).” Surely, Hindus will know the context. I don't want to do debate because I hate it from my School life but if u have any questions I'll try my best to answer .

[@highlighter3334]

What I'm supporting ?

[@highlighter3334]

@Alex Aryan I'm still doing my own research on this topic , that's why I can't say anything regarding this topic . In my opinion every one should do research , understand there Religion . researching on any matter or topic related to religion it's not easy because u have to confirm every single thing again and again from different scholars , Reading books regrading religious matters Holy book and it's explaintion and as I'm researching on Islam it's much more than this , Quran and it's explaintion , Hadiths and it's explaintion , shariah law , books regarding religious matters , scholars opinions and what they elaborate ? , this type of matters takes more than 2 months (as most of things available on internet , I do research mostly from internet )

[@misiknuo]

I like dr Shabir but....he can not beat the argument...it is in quran...

[@rafaelc9299]

Surah 90 verse. 11. But he did not brave the ascent. Verse 12. And what will explain to you what the ascent is? 13. THE FREEING OF A SLAVE . 14. Or the feeding on a day of hunger. 15. An orphan near of kin. 16. Or a destitute in the dust. 17. Then he becomes of those who believe, and advise one another to patience, and advise one another to kindness Surah 9 verse 60 “ Charities are for the poor, and the destitute, and those who administer them, and for reconciling hearts, and for FREEING SLAVES , and for those in debt, and in the path of God, and for the traveler in need-an obligation from God. God is All-Knowing, Most Wise” Surah 2 verse 177 Righteousness does not consist of turning your faces towards the East and the West. But righteous is he who believes in God, and the Last Day, and the angels, and the Scripture, and the prophets. Who gives money, though dear, to near relatives, and orphans, and the needy, and the homeless, and the beggars, and for the FREEING OF SLAVES ; those who perform the prayers, and pay the obligatory charity, and fulfill their promise when they promise, and patiently persevere in the face of persecution, hardship, and in the time of conflict. These are the sincere; these are the pious.

[@AftabKhan-tu3ou]

Same for you said that some specific chapters of holy Quran were based on the situation of prophet's muhamad time So Don't you think many more revelations infact new revealitaitons need to be announced by Allah SWT in terms of present situation of lies, wars and maligining almighty's messages

[@rishanmuhammed9383]

Well hear it's is live your life full of love to others respect everyone, do what you love, have a smile, pray 5 times a day, have di kr, do what you love ❤

[@theinternetsavedmylife]

Yeah, except they're unchangeable even in these modern times

[@RedditFusion]

“Why couldn’t God say that slavery is bad” He did.

[@pkworlz]

And as you said hadith says what has been done at that time without consent. If today people will create an environment of same kind history will repeat.

[@saidkhan5086]

This is the most convincing reply I've heard so far from Islamic perspective

[@MrInfoPhilly]

Notice he did not quote the quran because it allowed slaves., and allowed you to sleep with married woman whom your right hand possessed

[@Truthlight403]

@@MrInfoPhilly where does it say that? Who said that?

[@learningis7857]

@@Truthlight403 are you asking because you believe it’s wrong ? If you say yes then I will send you the proof now

[@bravanshin3194]

Congratulations you are a selfish immoral person , justifying slavery is your convincing reply?

[@farzana6676]

There's nothing convincing about this reply.

[@un1te4llppl]

Bro next time just say I don't know. U stumbling over every word this is not good bro

[@ismailatiamiyuabdulsalam9496]

Thank u so much Dr. Shabir Ally

[@NidaMaria05]

*I'm A Deeply Faithful Muslim, But I Don't Believe Certain Laws; Does That Make Me An Antagonist?*

[@TheMagnificentGman]

That means Islam is false

[@erwinsmith636]

Kind of yes. In islam, you cannot disagree with allah or muhammad laws. That is akin to blasphemy. So if you believe in allah but reject some of his laws and hadiths then you are considered a non muslim by majority of muslim scholars consensus

[@NidaMaria05]

@@erwinsmith636 Uh ...Ok

[@amiratazkia]

​@@NidaMaria05 not hadiths tho since they're men made (no preserving of it mentioned in Qur'an) but about Qur'an yes you have to agree. but there's a difference between agreeing with what Qur'an says and agreeing with what scholars believe the Qur'an says. I'd say keep asking Allah for the right answer and for knowledge. keep your heart clean :) believe, be kind, and be just.

[@blackngold007]

@@NidaMaria05 maybe you just believe in being a good person and don't necessarily need an ancient book telling you how to live?

[@moizzmalik8882]

Can someone explains what is he saying

[@mrmossadeq]

simply nonsense arguments..

[@rahafsuw]

This makes me question my faith 😞

[@josukehigashikataofjojolio1851]

Then leave it if you don't have enough faith. I at least find nothing wrong here as I looked into this matter. Think at that time's prospective. Slavery was everywhere at that time. It couldn't be stopped. So Allah set rules for slavery. Even Prophet Solomon had 300 female slaves. So , think with the mindset of that time. I have clarified my confusions, hope you will too.

[@rahafsuw]

@@josukehigashikataofjojolio1851 are you saying that Allah is incompatible of abolishing sexual slavery just because it was normal back then? Then why was drinking wine and eating pork abolished but not slavery? Allah is god he is capable of everything and he plans everything, it’s just confusing that he wouldn’t abolish such an immoral act.

[@josukehigashikataofjojolio1851]

@@rahafsuw What a lame question. Did Allah start slavery? No, His creations did . This world is a test Allah said. In Quran, Allah in nowhere wanted us to suffer, it's the consequences set by the surrounding that makes us suffer. Allah always say that He always wish for our betterment . If he solves all the problems for us, then what's the meaning of our test, what's the meaning of sending us here? Allah isn't responsible for our destiny, Every people chooses his own destiny and Allah just writes them as he can foresee our future actions .He also enriches our destiny when we call him ( if not in earth, then in afterlife for sure). Allah doesn't discriminate among anyone whether it's a child born in poor family or rich family, a mental patient who doesn't even understand what is God, a fetus dying in its mother's womb or a child dying because of hunger . Allah discriminates no one . He has divided the results of our deeds between this life and life after . Does every crimin*l, rap*st, Thi*ef gets caught and punished in this life? No, but they will be punished by God afterlife. Similarly, God will also reward those who have suffered in this life and remained fruitless. Everything I have written is from Quran Hadith. I doubt you even tried to understand Quran and Hadith and think about these once .

[@Varun-zf9vq]

​@@josukehigashikataofjojolio1851 not his creation his prophet lol and I think he should say that this is wrong but it is halal so shameful!

[@josukehigashikataofjojolio1851]

@@Varun-zf9vq His prophet started slavery? You mean Mohammed? Do you have any idea you're talking about or just came here to spread hate? Give me one authentic proof from Islamic sources that he started slavery. Slavery was there for millenniums. Slavery was always there from Abraham to Muhammad. But Mohammed is the one who's put finger upon for no reason. Don't you know that many of Allah's prophets were slaves and were sold as slaves earlier ? Also Allah saved the sons of israel(Israelites) from slavery through Moses . Slavery is never encouraged in Islam. But as it was impossible to abolish slavery at that times, Allah created rules and provided them with proper rights. But Islam falls a victim to it just because of providing slave rights.

[@rkinczel]

So all you have to do is reinterpret the Quran in today's morals and then it's all g 👏

[@abdullahyasser7402]

I'm an Ex-muslim, I left Islam 8 years ago , it was a whole journey. There are many moral issues in Islam other than that there are enormous historical and logical fallacies!

[@PaulSmith-wz2xv]

This man sounds reasonable yet looks evil and bends History to suit his purpose which is Dawah and apologetics.

[@Raptor3Falcon]

DR shabbir ally is a gentleman expert at word manipulation

[@TheLeftRbabieskillers]

Right on

[@dudarmedharet]

Great video. Very nuanced and honest.

[@bassemphilip6431]

Can someone explains to me the story of Safeya ?

[@musicguy20]

Trying his best to polish a turd.

[@quickjinx517]

You will need a better "counter-argument" than that buddy.

[@musicguy20]

@@quickjinx517 it’s an observation not an argument 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@cellardoor9360]

Mr. Shabir's point of removing slavery as a whole by preventing the ways one could "obtain" or "procure" slaves. But was breeding slaves permissible in islamic antiquity? Thanks for the help!

[@Dignified32]

Great point, no answer...people came to the prophet and asked him if we could do coitusinteruptus (ejaculating out) and he said no need, hence breeding slaves and producing bastards was ok.

[@tomahawk5357]

@@abdallahmanasrah2317 What's your reference (Quran verse, hadith sahih) that proves what you wrote? Thanks

[@abdallahmanasrah2317]

@@tomahawk5357 I honestly answered with my general understanding of the subject, but seeing your question, I've done some research, and things are more shadows of grey than I thought, thus I deleted my first answer, not to misslead anyone.

[@tomahawk5357]

@@abdallahmanasrah2317 Ok, thanks for your answer.

[@user-oo6vr1ky5f]

Someone is not born into slavery.

[@syedsharjeelaskari2161]

Dr.Shabbir Ally is one of the best Muslim rational scholars of the present times. May Allah bless Dr. Shabbir Ally, his family and the entire team of 'Let the Quran Speak' with goodness

[@tianzi49]

Syed is it ok for the father to marry an adopted son's wife in your culture?

[@syedsharjeelaskari2161]

@@tianzi49 No it is severely disliked in my culture, though Islam allows it but it is not considered good In my culture, same like polygamy, if a man marries more than once simultaneously, thisz is considered good In my culture

[@tianzi49]

@@syedsharjeelaskari2161 you know when I was in post war country there were many orphans that were adopted .... but you are saying Islam allows adopted parent to marry adopted son or daughters spouses?

[@nobs997]

He is a spin master

[@anewday6357]

@@tianzi49 you

[@JeremyDavidsonTheMuslimRevert]

10:00 What about 4:24 in the Quran then?

[@fazalahmed6820]

Read the commentary of the versewww.islamicstudies.info/quran/maarif/maarif.php?sura=4&verse=22

[@towardslight4475]

Why people just don read quran...and without getting the whole thing,they jst pick a line and pinch with it... hindu, buddhist,christians does permit slavery... Where quran for the frst time took it in certain conditions - -- Also ˹forbidden are˺ married women-except ˹female˺ captives in your possession.1 This is Allah’s commandment to you. Lawful to you are all beyond these-as long as you seek them with your wealth in a legal marriage, not in fornication. Give those you have consummated marriage with their due dowries. It is permissible to be mutually gracious regarding the set dowry. Surely Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise. The person who is wise will get the text

[@Sahildeepsingh-ki6jv]

@@towardslight4475 it is because unlike christian jain buddha hindu holy books quran is itself written by allah creator of universe all perfect without slight change thats why .this book is so easy to debunk than any other books

[@towardslight4475]

@@Sahildeepsingh-ki6jv yeah

[@drsaithal]

Oh yea great interpretation

[@alphabeta726]

The explanation by the Maulana Saab is not satisfactory. The Holy Quran is an oracle. Some indications are implicit. The interpretations of the whole Quran collides with each other. The slave system and intimate relationship with slaves are not acceptable. A simple issue related to human conscience.

[@lubnabilalahmed4050]

So Dr. Shabir Ally, Allah permitted and encouraged believers to take prisoners of war as slaves and also have s** with them and make them concubines, was this the best he could suggest? Could he do not better? You said that (4:15) human beings have developed an advanced level of consciousness today, so did Allah lack the same level of consciousness back then? Or you are suggesting that you have outgrown the consciousness of Allah of 1500 years ago. Are you suggesting that Allah was not all knowing? He could not tell something which could last until the day of judgement? You said that (6:31) slavery was rampant until 17th century and there was hardly any voice that said that there is anything wrong in slavery, so that means you are talking about the views of the Masters and not the slaves, right? Were the slaves until 17th century preferred being slaves and was it their preferred livelihood? Could Allah also not think from the perspective of slaves? Or was Allah sending verses only for the benefit of the masters? So today you have an internal turmoil and discomfort (9:18) over these practices of slavery and concubinage, why could the Allah, who is all knowing, not feel the same level of internal turmoil and discomfort that the human beings have today? The human beings have become more humane than the Allah of 1500 years ago? The point is, in first place such statements could not have come from Allah, who is the most merciful. Having s** slaves and having concubines could be the desires of sick men, but such practices could not be suggested by Allah.

[@Revolt_west]

Surah An-nur 24:33 "And those who cannot afford marriage should keep themselves chaste until Allah enriches them out of His grace. And those of your slaves who wish to enter the contract of Kitābah (emancipation by paying money), contract Kitābah with them, if you recognize some good in them. And give them out of the wealth of Allah that He has given to you. And do not compel your maids to prostitution - if they wish to observe chastity - in order that you may seek the temporary benefit of the worldly life. If one compels them, then after their being compelled, Allah is Most-Forgiving, Very-Merciful".👍🏽

[@farzana6676]

Or alternatively, it could be that religion is man made, that's why the laws feel outdated when societys morality changes

[@salmanabdo1079]

No human being is labelled slave as all humans are equal

[@aks1008]

Islamic Invasion of India is the bloodiest chapter in human history..