Slavoj Žižek - Rage, Rebellion, New Power (Oct. 2016)

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The relationship of rage, rebellion and new power forms a kind of dialectical triad of the revolutionary process. In the beginning there are the more or less chaotic outbursts of rage, the dissatisfaction of the people, which they demonstrate more or less violently; however unorganized and without a clear goal. Once this potential of rage is organized, the result is, with a minimum of organization, a more or less conscious image of an enemy and an idea of what would have to change. When the rebellion was successful in the end, the new rulers were confronted with the immense task of organizing the new society - remember the anecdote narrated by the exchange of ideas between Lenin and Trotsky on the eve of the October Revolution. Lenin says, "What happens to us when we fail?" Trotsky replies: "And what happens to us when we are successful?" The problem is that we can hardly ever bring the triad of rage, rebellion and new power in an order of a logically conclusive advance. The chaotic rage spreads out arbitrarily and diffusely, or strikes into the populism of the right; the successful rebellion loses strength and loses itself in many compromises. If this is the case, we must conclude that the rage does not only fail at the beginning, but also at the end of so many emancipatory projects.
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[@musicloverkathy]

I don't have a great background in philosophy, but listening to Zizek's incredible scholarship and his own strange sweetness is like listening to a symphony. I love how he tries so hard to be respectful to everyone and how he pays attention to popular culture and contextualizes it in traditional philosophy. How can he read so much and watch so many films? His mind is a work of art.

[@thomassimmons1950]

This talk is essential for grasping the contradictions of the current moment. Bravoj Slavoj!

[@sintiendomevivo]

22:30 "if you can't face Hiroshima in the theater, you'll eventually end up in Hiroshima itself" Edward Bon 👏

[@auraborealis9246]

Just found him, intellectual of the highest order, great satirist on serious complex issues, full of knowledge and wisdom, honest and unaffected, 'cuts through the crap', original and charismatic, good communication between Interviewer and Slavoj, open to new information, incredible clarity and articulation as an ESL, natural comic style. He is a breath of fresh air from the fake 24/7 Corporate Media's Glamorous News Anchors and their Guests with their superficial politeness of 'Excuse Me' and 'You're Welcome' which is annoying, time-consuming.

[@johnking7008]

You notice he only has tics when he is talking.

[@jacobloving6765]

john king we only see him when he is talking

[@musicloverkathy]

I love how aware he is of everyone's struggles and puts such a huge effort into showing respect to all of us. He confronts those who deserve it, but he has such a big heart. He acknowledge s the importance of popular culture and out the muck he creates something that transcends every discipline with his sheer devotion to every day decency.

[@farrider3339]

​@@jacobloving6765 You, I claim, lose the content when watching him. I never look, just listen. This holds for all these talks on YoTub

[@flavsdeleu7124]

mom: are you high me: 21:36

[@nightoftheworld]

2:19 "This gradually emerging _worldless_ (weltlust) civilization, exemplarily affects the younger generation-which oscillates between the intensity of _fully burning out_ (sexual enjoyment, drugs, alcohol, up to violence) and the endeavor to succeed (study, make a career, earn money and so on and so on). The only alternative to it being a violent retreat into some artificially resuscitated tradition." 20:26 "Maybe the phrase _class struggle_ and _anti-sexist struggle_ conceal a hidden hard choice: _one or the other,_ never both of them. In spite of all the rhetoric of _solidarity_ today's actual nomadic proletarians (immigrants from non-western countries) and today's actual anti-sexist movements cannot find the same language. To construct a shared space for both of them is a difficult task that requires long and hard work of self-transformation from both sides. From _both_ sides [immigrants/anti-sexism activists] not only will the immigrants have to change profoundly their identity, _really radically,_ abandon their way of reproducing themselves through family ties-but also here all this... I call them: people who fight here for anti-sexist causes but express _abstract_ solidarity with immigrants-It's not enough. The way they are, you cannot unite them without radical self-transformation on both sides. 22:24 "It's not as simple as that. I want to begin by a quote from Edward Bond that perhaps you know it: _'If you can't face Hiroshima in the theater you'll eventually end up in Hiroshima itself.'_ This is I think the best argument against those who oppose graphic descriptions of sexual violence and other atrocities-dismissing them as participating in the same violence these descriptions pretend to critically analyze and reject." 29:27 "The first right of autonomy is: _I can also be as evil as you, maybe even worse._ That's where true anti-racism begins. 39:39 "I think manners do matter-sometimes _precisely_ manners are the last thing that separates us from direct barbarism." 57:16 "I don't believe in state socialism, or course not, I don't believe in... no longer in welfare/social democratic capitalism, but I _also_ don't believe (if anything even less I believe) in the last, I claim, remainder of the 20th century that will have to be sacrificed: immediate council democracy. You know, what is still alive for the 20th century is this idea against alienated representational politics-local communities organizing their life and so on and so on. I think this is a horrible vision, it's _totally_ wrong politically and so on. First _no,_ local communities with living self-management, self-organization _cannot save us. Literally_ I am not joking. I think we need more alienation, precisely alienation in the sense of efficient bureaucracy." 58:33 "The biggest problem of Stalinism was bureaucracy. Stalinism couldn't organize a well functioning bureaucracy, that's why it _always_ needed an emergency state. An ideal social model for me is not some stupid local community where every afternoon I have to go to some debate group, how we will distribute water, how we will... _No!_ I want to live in a nice alienated society where there is an invisible, relatively well functioning network which provides water electricity health and so on and I want to be left alone to watch movies, to read and write my books and so on and so on." 1:00:06 "We need even stronger than state/larger organizations. I mean local communities are wonderful in so far as they (local self-organized communities) in so far as they work. But I always claim for them to work quite many things have to function imperceptibly in the background-and _that's where the battle is decided._ Ok, we debate how to organize health but for this you have to have large hospitals which work, how to distribute water/electricity-who organizes that and so on and so on?"

[@allypoum]

@Pyramid of Control - Nice selection of quotes. Good work.

[@dm6801]

Thank you

[@fdjss85]

Muchas gracias, buen hombre

[@jamesbray8209]

LLP.

[@Littleindiemarshmallow]

thank you for quoting valuable points !

[@kasiakonarski]

AMAZINGGGGGG long live Slavoj. Brilliant brilliant mind

[@ed19742006]

This guy is titanic.

Thanks for the upload.

[@HamidRehman100794]

Slavoj never disappoints! He is more entertaining than a movie

[@lub-czasopisma]

I love his speeches!

[@musicloverkathy]

I can him on in the background and it's better than a symphony. He's a living work of art.

[@farrider3339]

Precisely this playing his lecture down as 'entertainment' is the crux of today's overinformational society . . We lazily lean back and just listen to the cacophonous noise and by that miss the chance

[@HamidRehman100794]

@@farrider3339 I am glad that my baseness and intellectual vulgarity allowed you to share a profound philosophical insight about the societal degradation of my environment.

[@farrider3339]

@@HamidRehman100794 😀 congrats 👌 We're lost as lost can be so let's go and put our 3d 👓 on and watch the spectacle 😍 I bring 🍕+🍇

[@tomlensher]

1:01:13 Coronavirus, 4 years ahead.

[@buddhangle]

Yep. Let's not let the moment subside. We must seize it.

[@GMAH111]

2 months later, did you seize it?

[@buddhangle]

@@GMAH111 Rome was not seized in a day. Nor 2 months.

[@GMAH111]

@@buddhangle well hopefully the potential mass eviction will help out

[@buddhangle]

@@GMAH111 Definite potential. Stress drives evolution.

[@MrBlackMarvel]

brilliant.

[@fernandov1492]

I would love to see a discussion between Zizek and Robert Sapolski

[@farrider3339]

Pyrotechnics only ? NO, I claim ! This was pure 🔥 arson 🔥 and I like it ! Furthermore I fully agree, Zizek saying we are lost and it has to worsen before we even tend to awaken and accept the mess we've passionately created for ourselves as a species. Not to speak of appropriate actions following from that. We a lost ! Sandbanks ⛵️ ahead

[@brendanramsey8311]

Zizek does not speak quickly, however he is skilled in that he fits a very large amount of information, emotion, and cynicism in very few words. In 5 minutes of him speaking, there is often already more to process than many may have to in entire day, listening to the boringness and stupidity of our world and our own lives.

[@galek75]

This is why people need to study literature and cinema!

[@EhKurd]

Jesus the guy sitting next to Zizek at the end was a torture to listen to which is funny considering Zizek's sniffing and so on.

[@jlapointe]

(1) Chaos (2) Confusion (3) Discord (4) Bureaucracy (5) Aftermath

[@billydimtsis]

Could anyone explain to me what Zizek means at 1:12:50 about freedom in that situation of anxiety?

[@mitigiant5328]

8:05 This is goddamn true!

[@buddhangle]

Yes this quote is brilliant.

[@CynicalBastard]

17:00 minutes in and this sounds like a problem that Hermes might have.

[@sdgshrg]

why was this young dark haired guy always filmed? like he's the upcoming star after zizek

[@Quinceps]

Sorry, we'll correct that once the experiment is over.

[@jace3885]

Does anyone know where I can get a transcript for this?

[@danjated]

Have you watch ecounters of the third kind?

[@vincentbernard9445]

It is nice to know location of this event

[@mihail263]

Checkpoint: 35:58

[@HamidRehman100794]

Jerry Springer listening intently at 12:57

[@jackmcintire4136]

Anyone know the stock thing he's referring to at 52:40 ? Lol

[@Misuci]

not really, but..www.google.com/search?q=computer+picking+stocks&oq=computer+picking+stocks&aqs=chrome..69i57.9607j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[@nah8845]

Merci pour cette vidéo ! J'apprécie ses idées, mais en même temps, je suis un grand partisan des théories de la psychanalyse. Et à cause de (ou grâce à ?) cela, je pense qu'il n'est pas vraiment possible de « se connaître soi-même » et, par conséquent, il est impossible de tirer des conclusions rationnelles sur nos propres valeurs. C'est-à-dire, impossible de créer notre propre signification. Pour ça, on a besoin des autres.

[@bardicpearl]

The Corbyn of philosophy.

[@tonydancer]

30:00 North Corea

[@alfonsostrazzullo9256]

1:18:54

[@RYBATUGA]

13:40

[@beanzy619]

That big catastrophe he talked about and predicted was the pandemic.

[@farrider3339]

Nope, that was just an overture

[@kaylabower546]

i’m drunk

[@jlapointe]

37:47 LOL the word "fart" is too vulgar for *Slavoj*??

[@r.contreiras154]

maybe. but i think is not that. the whole argument is on how manners matter, so, lets say, using the word "fart" would maybe be consider a performative contradiction, besides this lecture is in a very traditional and serious academic institution (Humboldt-Universitat zu Berlin) , anyway just a thought on :)

[@mitigiant5328]

10:46 ˜WTF did you say?

[@miroslavkutak9430]

Slavoj: "I want to live in a nice alienated society where there is an invisible, relatively well-functioning network...." Milton: "What about the free market? :)"

[@TheOneG36]

what about the practical-socialist American Military would be an approbierte Answer ;) or to keep it in market Terms, what is with the "invisible" fist

[@patosago]

Imagine believing the free international market is orderly. Also Zizek talks about a state bureaucracy, not a phantom network like "the market".

[@ethanstump]

alienated society with an invisible network: check. well-functioning on behalf of the worker's: no dice.

[@mihavatovec5770]

2020 protest in USA

[@frankstookey7851]

his tics are strange.

[@Zealotux]

Zizek himself is always seen as _strange_ but if you can listen though his various quirks you usually learn something valuable, even if you don't agree with him.

[@jmdr7522]

Zealot id prefer to read his books - his heavy accent makes it really hard to listen to him for more than an hour

[@cadaver_on_autopilot]

Least insane Slovenian

[@golkeeper8517]

messy

[@SH-op9hc]

why do i see you commenting this on every one of Žižeks videos. Yes he is messy, so what? do you have a life?

[@thepoeet]

i love how everyone who came to see him is dressed are dressed Politically Correct and he came in a basic t-shirt lol

[@buddhangle]

What does that mean to be 'dressed Politically Correct'?

[@fredwelf8650]

@@buddhangle dressed up, church going clothes

[@buddhangle]

@@fredwelf8650 I don't see what makes that politically correct. Dressing in such attire shows respect for a noteworthy event. --- As for Zizek, he IS the event so no surprise if he showed up in a bathrobe and slippers :)

[@ethanstump]

@@buddhangle zizek's reversing hierarchy so that rather then being dressed as the wealthiest, he's just a normal dude in average clothes. while i agree with it, it isn't normative. but then, neither should we be normative.

[@golkeeper8517]

messy messy man

[@danjated]

There is a problem of representation in the state and identity that trump resolves in a hegelian way

[@danjated]

Don’t you think zizek that the means of production of the yugoslavian government theory are the right theory that can reflect in a study of the macroeconomic Productivity of the modern internet globaliced capitalist economy?

[@danjated]

With an egyptian god *)

[@danjated]

Lutero create a new way of growth of the brain and I understand why the german women are so precious *)

[@ali42301]

Correction: Saudi Arabia welcomed about 2 million Syrian refugees.

[@rickestrickc-1375]

"Saudi foreign ministry officials claim that the nation has received nearly 2.5 million Syrians since 2011. ... The newspaper claimed that outlets in the US have exploited a technicality used by the UN to count Syrian refugees, and that it is more plausible that 500,000 Syrian refugees are currently in Saudi Arabia." Well at least quite a bunch of brothers

[@work-out-fitness]

jajajaja #coronavirus kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKnJlouPftyhpKs

[@johnstewart7025]

Is he feeling competitive with Jordan Peterson?

[@jorgejimenez4325]

@curiosofsigns Jesus fucking Christ, you are so pretentious. As a general rule, this is why the opposing side wants to throw you people out of helicopters. I look forward to seeing the debate between the two *improper* philosophers and learning new things about some of the great ideas they both have to say, regardless of their conman or communist status amongst bitchy moaners like you on both sides. Have some humility and deprogram, like Zizek suggests we should.

[@UpscCseInsider]

Zizek is of another dimension

[@aagantuk7370]

I love listening to this guy but I know most of this is bs because the world isn't as simple as some intellectuals think it

[@aagantuk7370]

Maybe he's just in it for the money? Good entertainment value anyway nice

[@EhKurd]

well yea, sometimes you have to create a model (or simplification) of something and go from there, same as economics. No one would be able to think about these things if we didn't do this.

[@aagantuk7370]

@@EhKurd yes, economic predictions also mostly seem bunk to me. But yes we do need to talk about stuff

[@ethanstump]

@@aagantuk7370 well, what simplifications do you not see as simple then? you can't see the world outside of representations that are limited by subjectivity, which leads to simplifications.

[@mirko1989]

- there is a light and the light is blockchain , it is finaly possible to organize the society where everbody are working in their own interest but still work for a common good and it is all automated and no trustee is neded

[@bigfiggin9891]

idiot

[@michalaugustniak433]

The introduction is precisely why philosophers should be shot. The only thing I agree with him about is primarily that we should have state-owned industry, education and medicine. I also agree that capitalism is waste. Zizek is one of those old guard Eastern Europeans obsessed with western philosophy which is generally a set of justifications of bad behavior. He likes germans a lot. *cough* *cough* I have to agree that non-European peoples are organic, in fact, traditional Eastern European life is also organic, what partly interrupted the organic nature of our peoples is Christianity - peddled by the Germans. It never fully caught on and has to adapt. I have to agree that European obsession with emancipatory bs is western and completely inorganic: useless.

[@paulrenz9613]

I hear words but no content

[@fredwelf8650]

gotta read his books

[@MrBlackMarvel]

check your head.