Is Pappy Van Winkle 12 Year Worth the HUNT and MONEY?

[@JordanG_3031]

SLB Classics 0:55 Trenton actually makes some sense 1:37 Trenton even knows some sayings today 2:33 Trenton embraces the foolishness 2:36 1|0 👃 Trenton 2:38 Trenton’s sticky note! 4:10 Kurt’s taster is quite on point today 4:49 Kurt is a hungry man 5:05 Trenton did indeed put it on the screen 6:12 2|0 👃 Trenton 🎉🎉 6:14 Trenton nosing face 8:02 Trenton is truly an old man 8:40 Kurt is like his mom, SLB 9:14 Kurt’s palate is on point! 9:54 First 1/2 of the secret is revealed 10:57 Second 1/2 of secret revealed, and an education 13:12 big video reveal! How exciting 15:00 some slight burgling is being planned😂 15:49 nice nod to finish

[@OverfinchJoshua]

Great video guys! As always 🔥this one I paid particular attention to as Ive had a great bit of fortune last week and got a call to say I’d won a charity lottery for the full Pappy Van Winkle family collection all signed by Julian Van Winkle 3rd and that I need to drove to Kentucky to collect as it’s a risk to ship then all 😂. I think it’s the best $100 I’ll ever spend and had a great weekend touring the distillery’s 😁 looking forward to enjoying them over the years!

[@johnbeardmore4020]

“I don’t know why you eat before a video.” “I’m hungry, that’s why.”

[@iceman2796]

I got last year's Old Rip Van Winkle 12 for a Christmas gift. That was and is the best Bourbon I've ever had. Nothing even comes close, end of story!

[@FountainCityFingerboards]

Got a bottle in 2016 at msrp. I worked at a liquor store for 8 years and made alot of bourbon and other sales so my boss allowed me to purchase it and I would say it is absolutely worth it at msrp. I wouldn’t pay secondary on it. I was also fortunate enough to get a Old Forester Birthday Bourbon that same year, and that’s been the best bourbon I’ve tried to date. It was barreled 2003 and Bottled in 2015 (was the previous years)

[@MartyBecker]

5 years ago, I got a bottle at retail, $89.95, from my local Binnys. While it was good, I would not pay over $100 today for it.

[@davevogelsang6791]

I got a bottle of this in June at Woodman’s in Rockford, Illinois for $89.99. Cracked it open last weekend with friends and family. We really enjoyed it, but I agree with you, I would not pay over $100 either. 🥃

[@steveno7058]

You wouldn’t pay $110 for a bottle that you can instantly see for $1200? 😂

[@kirklandeche937]

This offers people a good perspective of what it might feel like to be the winner of a multi-million dollar lottery! Great show as always! Cheers!

[@hyzer.flipr0]

This was a brilliant idea for a video. Nice job guys!

[@honker1307]

Awesome video Trenton and Kurt!!!! Keep these coming, love the formats you all are doing.

[@waynefialo9492]

The "Poor Man's Pappy" is a 40/60 blend of Weller 12/Antique. Have you seen the secondary pricing on those bottles?? Lol

[@DougDemsko]

I got a pour of Pappy 15 year old in Louisville last month. It was good but the only way I would buy a bottle of Pappy is at MSRP through the state lottery here in Pennsylvania.

[@brdacumos]

Thanks for doing Trader Joe’s and Costco labels. Can you do one on Total Wine’s spirits direct like Bondstone, McFarlane, Winchester, Wolcott

[@WhskAZCL]

At Min 6... 100% thumbs up 😂

[@davevogelsang6791]

I picked this up in June for $89.99. I was waiting to open it for when friends and family came by. This last weekend my brother, cousin and best friend came up for golf and bourbon. We cracked it open and everyone thought it was good. However, I would not pay much more than retail for another bottle. 🥃

[@GunGlutton]

Lottery?

[@davevogelsang6791]

@@GunGlutton Nope. Walked into Woodman’s in Rockford, IL and they had just put Pappy 15 Year, Pappy Family Reserve 13 Year Rye and Van Winkle 12 Year in the allocated case. I jumped in line. The guy in front of me got the Pappy 15 for $129. I am not a rye guy, so I picked Van Winkle 12 Year Lot B, and the guy behind me got the 13 Year Rye. First time I saw it on the shelf without a lottery. At the same store, I got an EH Taylor Barrell Proof last Friday for $79.99.

[@GunGlutton]

@@davevogelsang6791 dang

[@davidvoth7218]

@@davevogelsang6791keep hearing about that Woodman's randomly putting out allocated bottles from last year. Love how they do that

[@rynob81]

@@GunGlutton😊😊😊

[@philsmock4943]

Where are you guys located, if I can ask. I grew up in Hebron in the 60's and 70's. I'm wanting to get into bourbon, so I've been watching all kinds of bourbon channels. I just started watching your channel last week. I enjoyed SLB Drinks and I have subscribed. In one of your videos I thought I heard you say Valpo. And you have talked about Indiana bourbon. I'm going back and watching your older videos. Thanks for sharing.

[@DavidBurkett-x5d]

VW 12 is my favorite of the VW/Pappy line up

[@wehrenberg1]

Please do more reviews of blends! My current favorite, Old Elk Wheated with Woodford Double Oak. The long finish in the OE matches well with the maple sweetness of the WDO

[@CGsYTChannel]

Let that PMP sit for a few weeks to really meld together. SO GOOD!

[@thefalcon666]

$119 for Pappy?!! LMAO! Come to NY and if your lucky enough to find one, prepare yourself for the $1200 price tag ....😳

[@GunGlutton]

Stores in central FL are selling rip van winkle for 1599

[@BuckMcAntlerson]

Yeah that's a joke

[@thefalcon666]

@@BuckMcAntlerson the $119 or the $1200 is a joke? I can assure you, good sir, the $1200 in NY is no joke

[@WhiskyForBeginners]

Kurt is the real rebel here - no tattoos (at least none visible), and a haircut that would've been normal on my street back in the 60s when I was a kid. The "rebels" and "individualists" have always fit a pattern, which the "squares" don't. And yes, I realize this has nothing to do with bourbon. 😂

[@joshlaws1300]

Exactly, the "alternative, non-conforming" crowds all seem to look the same these days.

[@WhiskyForBeginners]

@@joshlaws1300 It's been that way since the 60s at least. Back then the hippies all said, "I gotta do my own thing," and then all dressed alike, talked alike, grew their hair alike, etc.

[@ChristopherNeeme]

It's always good to see a blind of something ridiculously inflated vs something far less expensive and I'm always rooting for the latter. Blinds always tell the truth.

[@petemcfeet28]

I am enjoying learning more about bourbons with you. I get that it is your wheelhouse and I hope one day to have exposure to even 20% of what's available to you, but it's unlikely where I live. I wish you would also step out of your comfort zone and try out some Irish Whisky, Canadian Whisky and even some Scotch but know that a foray into Scotch can get real pricey real quick. I'm hoping for this because I like your opinions, but my liquor store offers 23 American whiskies right now. Like it has for the last year. Same ones. And I'm a $50 toll ride away from any liquor store that might give me more variety. Ya. It's a real bummer and a real obstacle trying to get some out of the normal drams. I loved you guys enjoying the Alberta Premium Cask Strength and hope you hunt down the (hopefully) up and coming 2024 version. I've recently stocked up on the last of the 2023 remaining in our province. Within reason, I'm not a hoarder and left some for the equally smitten. Keep these coming and Cheers from Prince Edward Island!

[@Hngrychef]

Love watching your show!!!❤❤❤

[@doogie64]

OF guy said to blend their 1920 and 1910 for something tasty. I’ve not tried it, but will have to this weekend.

[@Kenny31190]

Spoiler alert - it's good.

[@fishhead680]

I like the 1915 better than the 1920!

[@ChristopherNeeme]

OF apparently doesn't like it when people do that. There was someone who made custom 1915 labels for your bottle that was selling them online and OF sent them a cease and desist.

[@rhayes458]

What are some other home blend recipes that are recommended? Any without Weller 107, 12 Year, or Full Proof?

[@KingSavageMatty]

You guys should make a bourbon video of your top pics and or mix drinks for when you’re sick, since we are entering that time of the year. 🥃

[@bmc2567]

I’ve enjoyed the 10, 15 & 20 and 15 is my favorite for sure. I’ve also done the PM Pappy and agree with your assessment. Liked them separately better. Good blind!!

[@jacobjaworsky6569]

Do a blind or a review of the Thomas S. Moore extended cask finish. They are from the 1792 distillery. Let me know if you might need some help acquiring samples.

[@bjmmn]

"Do you know Kent's garage code?" "Yeah, I do" Kent proceeds to change his garage code LOL

[@MajorXero]

Had my first lot b this weekend, and it was great

[@1125mikem]

Lol - doesn't long in the tooth mean you are getting old? not long winded.. great video thx!

[@OldFashionedWays]

Fun video. Love the blind experiment. Cheers

[@nefarious_saint]

I won a store lottery in 2013 and have a lot B. Still haven’t opened it. Means it was distilled in 2001. That’s before Buffalo trace purchased pappy. Not sure what’s in the bottle because stitzel weller was already out of business. Waiting for a rainy day to open it.

[@yFyre]

You guys should try mixing the bombergers and shenks. I hear it’s better than the two separately

[@DavidCrawford-i8w]

I think it would be great to see a video filmed at Trenton’s place because it sounds like he has a great selection of fine whiskey although maybe not with the really nice bar that his old man has.

[@tomanderson1557]

OMG Kurt when Trenton said he takes his ADHD medication… Maybe you should take a few more 🤣🤣🤣

[@southbraves1983]

I cant get/find the 107. can you recommend something close in taste to the w107?

[@tneils]

I purchased some merch and the email address keeps getting kicked back. Please help

[@MrZanzibar123]

Nice one! Just finished my PMP last night! P(i)MP! 😂

[@Scott-co4dq]

I've had pours of the 10 year and the 12 Lot B. Didn't care for the 10 at all and merely found the 12 OK. I've come to understand that wheaters simply aren't a type of whiskey I enjoy. A few are good but most are a pass for me.

[@rickyotero1525]

Hey guys, how about a review and blind test of the limited releases of 2023? For example: High West Mid Winter Nights Dram and Widow Jane Decadence 2023

[@Vacanzeinbarca]

good morning, I have a bottle of VAN WINKLE FAMILY RESERVE RYE 1985 KENTUCKY STRAIGHT RYE, can you tell me how much it might be worth and on which platform I could find people interested in purchasing it?

[@dongreer452]

A request for help here... I do not know how to distinguish if a bourbon has an oak profile or not. You guys seem to be no fans of the heavy oak. Can you recommend a bourbon in the $30-$40 range that has a very oaky profile and one that does not, so I can get this straight in my mind? Would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks.

[@dmkelly5491]

Explore Makers Mark

[@Robert.Sheard]

Tasted the Pappy 15 for the first time at an undisclosed Valpo location. It was very nice, but I'd rather have a pour of Stagg every time.

[@Robert.Sheard]

😂... given how hard Antique 107 and Weller 12 are to come buy, it's not a "poor man's" anything anymore. The Lot B is cheaper.

[@americanmonster8342]

Just got home with my first Lot🐝 got it for 169.00 out the door. Thanks Walmart lol 😅

[@ASMRPeople]

It's funny that it's poor man's pappy because on the secondary market you'd pay about $200 & $125 for the wellers, but I suppose it's cheaper than the $500 you'd pay for the pappy's

[@EverydayDrinker]

This makes me more excited to crack my lot b at 5k!

[@teddyballgame25]

I had a pour of the Lot B in a bar and it was good. A bit thin bc of the low ABV. Nothing special…it’s a $50-$60 bottle I would pay double just to have it on the shelf…$150 max if I’m being honest.

[@navynugget7]

Unfortunately when i see it at a local store, theres an auction or bidding war on it, which is ridiculous for a bottle under $100.

[@Snitchols]

LOL, that bottle of Pappy here in the stores around me is $1000.00.

[@tommiller4895]

If you are hunting for Pappy Van Winkle 12 Year, you are going to have a long search. LOL

[@ju-munyt.v.9220]

Got a 12 year for 600 2 years ago... I live in NY.... now they want 1050 for it...smh

[@OGbrick420]

all fruit starts life as a flower bloom.

[@inkynate9372]

According to blending lore, the "Poor Man`s Pappy" recipe was never intended to be a Pappy/Van Winkle clone. It was created to mimic the Weller Centennial blend. There is however a less well-known Poor Man's Lot B recipe that consists of 50% Weller Special Reserve and 50% Eagle Rare (must be from a fruit forward bottle). Ideally you would mix the blend well in advance and let it "marry" in the bottle for a few weeks before tasting.

[@Kenny31190]

Thanks for sharing the Poor Mans Lot B blend. I personally enjoy playing bourbon mixologist. I have not heard of the Poor Mans Lot B before I will have to try it. The blend I have tried is WSR, OWA, and Larceny at 40/40/20. It is very nice. However I'm interested to see what the Eagle Rare would do in place of the WSR or Larceny.

[@davidjohnson8930]

I've never heard that about the centennial blend. It's always been known to mimic van winkle 12 or some say 15 which is a major stretch. As far as eagle rare that doesn't make sense given it has rye in the mashbill. You might be thinking of the poor mans four grain which is OGD 114 and WSR at 2:1. Some add Eagle Rare to that blend as an alternative. But no poor mans pappy has eagle rare and WSR in the recipe.

[@inkynate9372]

@@davidjohnson8930 it's from a Reddit post I have saved on r/PoorMansWhiskey. It was authored by the guy who runs Ten-30 Barrels, he really knows his stuff.

[@tpg5974]

Appreciate the content but you guys really need boom mics or clip on mics.

[@Independent58]

I've tried the 12yr it's good, but I feel it's not worth the secondary value

[@TangoSierra01]

What is the blend you used for this tasting? Trens said 40% 12 year and 60% antique, and I would like to know if that is the actual blend used...because THAT blend is not poor man's pappy...PMP is 66% 12 year and 34% antique...It's supposed 2:1 12 year to antique!!!

[@sirjcc]

to truly make poor man pappy, you need to mix it and let it sit for a few weeks. The flavor changes during that time. bourbon junkies did a test and they said it needed a month to turn "good"

[@AustinWiebeGolf]

I got a lot b last fall.. haven’t dabbled in it yet!

[@JodyM2]

Just saw the Lot B at The Hotel Congress for $50 a Shot

[@rustbucket9318]

I can never find allocated bottles near me. I mean if I wanted to pay $1,100 for that same bottle y'all just tried I can but I mean at retail price. I can't bring myself to pay over retail for anything, if the manufacturer thinks it's worth a certain price then I can't go past that in good conscience.

[@clumsyoctopus5614]

"Poor Man's Pappy" * Promptly pulls out two bottles that are just as rare as Pappy where I live. * Thanks for the helpful comparison, guys! 🤣

[@blakenaylor1983]

I bought my lot b two years ago for $119.00 I still haven’t opened it

[@Kurt843]

I would like to see the birthday bourbon blind too.

[@Warrensbar]

It’s barely worth MSRP. It’s all hype. I blinded it with a store pick buffalo trace and it barely beat it. Why someone would pay almost 1k for this bottle is fomo and beyond me.

[@IndyGuy65]

Agree!

[@jasonczfan8658]

Poor man’s Pappy is still going to set you back a few bills lol

[@Posterharpua]

the answer to this video is "NO" It's easier to find Weller 12 if you want an overhyped, under proofed 12 year buffalo trace product.

[@Usedplungerstotheface]

It's more hype

[@namret12]

Lot B over $1500 in MD. Geeeez

[@poforeman]

I’ve had it - and the 18 - in several blind tastings and I can say “definitely not”. No way. Not even close to being worth it. Not even at $90, which is hard to find.

[@berkaberk]

How the hell did you pay $119 for lot b in 2022? That's a $1200 here in NYC!

[@johngilbert9420]

I made a poor mans plus....I use the full proof in place of weller 12 I just made another with 60%107, 20%12 and 20% full

[@Frozen-Spirits-Alaska]

He's from the north, long in the teeth. Us born in the south only have a long tooth. 😅

[@DesertRox]

I have lot B and it sucks...don't waste your time and money. Much better choices for the money.

[@zackaryhaight9902]

Just did poor man’s pappy with Weller 12 and Weller full proof

[@TherealJanetyellen]

Best bourbon

[@ryandees6044]

Is poor man’s pappy better than each weller by themselves?

[@johnoberto2659]

I know nothing about pappy but no its not worth it. Easier to get my daughter a unicorn

[@Wild_Danimal]

10:38 😂

[@CSAN]

Full Proof and Antique 107 are tops. Can’t wait for Friday 👊

[@Mattsstill]

Stitzel Weller closed in 1992. It only had so much in barrels at the time. A good portion of what is sold as Pappy today is not the same juice and that is all over priced. The msrp is fine for the 12 but just know that you are not drinking the original. Even at 25 years (which would be the youngest spirit in the bottle) it would be after the last time the stills ran. I have had the chance to try a few of the labels from Van Winkle over the years and the 15 was best to me.

[@johnj.baranski6553]

Nothing poor man about any of these bottles...about 1500 bucks on the bar

[@ACIDICcitric]

WA107 user to be a $19 10-12 years ago

[@PeaceIsBetter]

Am I seeing this correctly? The younger guy knows what is what. He's making comments repeatedly on the nose and taste asking for agreement throughout. Anyone think that's fair?

[@jeffnuzz]

We made PMP, as well as a reverse PMP (60% WA107 & 40% W12, a bit cheaper that way, LOL) and both gave a very nice strawberry note. The reverse blend actually seemed a tad better.

[@josephvalerio6665]

i still buy my weller 12 for $40 a bottle lol

[@jeffnuzz]

@@josephvalerio6665 lucky you. In NY it gets pretty jacked up, although I've landed a few for not "a lot" more than that.

[@robertbooth3367]

Van Winkle is $600 - $800 MINIMUM - IF you can even find one in upstate NY. And yes, I've seen them over a $1000 so.... NO, it's absolutely not worth the money or effort at those prices. Now if you ever could get the 'Trenton' price just over a hondo, absolutely 💯 Good freekin luck though

[@vincentdsnt]

No No No !

[@lordgarth1]

Hoping for more than just a lot B from my store this year. Maybe a 15.

[@michaelcesario1158]

blind taste makes sense to me the brand could skew your thinking

[@jeremyshaw8559]

SLB! SLB! SLB!

[@skippyfab6858]

Spoiler Alert None of them are!

[@robertharper2158]

Absolutely not worth the hunt. I will take Makers Cask Strength over the Pappy's any day!

[@marks4471]

No Pappy Van Winkle is worth the price! I've tasted better bourbon for 1/10th of the price!

[@TheAlmightyTuj]

What bottle of bourbon are you paying less than $10 for?

[@marks4471]

@@TheAlmightyTuj Pappy isn’t $100! Lol

[@freeman436]

Pappy 10 knocks my sox off, the 12....not so much

[@davebrown5373]

Emptying a 10 since last xmas. sampled the 12 last week, the 15 a month ago. The 10 was my best and favorite til I tried the 15. I like the 10 better than Lot B.