Slicer vs Minsc & Boo vs Shorikai vs Thrasios/Vial Smasher | CEDH Gameplay

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[@Merc1987]

Especially in a slicer game, would love to see the commander damage everyone is sat on

[@Catguyrussell]

Yes please

[@Merc1987]

So to answer my own question: Both Ashani and Alex were on 12 commander damage, Where Cal was on twenty.

[@stats493]

Goaded slicer can't attack planeswalkers (Minsc and Boo)

[@kenlikescarbs]

RIP to Ryan needing to say "He gains control of Slicer" six hundred times

[@Ragnarok633]

Up there with any game involving Norin the Wary. Was playing some casual and the Norin player got Norin and Confusion in the Ranks out and let me tell you that game was a test in endurance in figuring out what happened when ever anyone did ANYTHING.

[@eloquentsilence6572]

@@Ragnarok633such a lovely and chaotic psuedo combo. Playing Norin is a great way to practice remembering the billion triggers he causes lmao

[@rajburtonpatel6702]

What a long way edh has come. Imagine a player from 2006 coming into this game and seeing a planeswalker, a vehicle, two creatures at once, and a freakin TRANSFORMER in the command zone.

[@vincentvallee9432]

its CEDH

[@DarkEinherjar]

Oh, yeah... goaded creatures can only attack planeswalkers if they can't fulfill the "attack a player other than you if able" requirement, so Slicer shouldn't have been able to attack Minsc and Boo outside Drake's turn.

[@AidanWR]

It's games like these that I'd like to see a commander damage counter. At least for the videos where commanders are smashing into other people

[@CosmicGiggalo]

I love that Cal's copy of Slicer is Dan-Dan. XD

[@BearClaymore]

It si not always needed, but in this case I would've loved to see a commander damage tracker. I lost track of how much commander damage Slicer dealt. It wasn't relevant at the end, but wouldn't mind having that piece of info on screen.

[@seanmurphy3430]

Okay, but Minsc and Boo has a second ability, though. It lets you draw cards and kill things; it's really good.

[@waynecalvert2148]

I was wondering why he didn't go infinite treasures and sac boo to draw 10 and cast them all before torpor orb came down. Unless I missed something.

[@darkfiire1647]

@@waynecalvert2148 yeah he had semur dockside loop right?, Unless there was somehow less than 5 dockside targets

[@chrisjohnson8703]

@@waynecalvert2148 Blind obedience makes the treasure enter tapped and the turn he cast he's one mana short of recasting.

[@Zackeus1992]

​@Chris Johnson but he had the combo assembled before the blind obedience

[@seanmurphy3430]

@@Zackeus1992 Didn't have enough mana to fire it off. (Needed 4 minimum - 2 for Sabertooth and 2 to recast Dockside.)

[@blueberryblues5644]

I think dropping a tangle wire before slicer was a sad play. those turns of tapping essentially your opponents entire boards could have been spent killing them as well

[@ChrisDavis-tt1dj]

Agree. I won a game last week that way. I got two full turn cycles with Tangle Wire out before Slicer was removed.

[@nanceskiinanceskii4674]

My favorite part of the game is where slicer said "it's slicing time" and sliced all over the table

[@jasons9895]

Love that your doing these cedh decks you don’t always see

[@TheDige]

"In true fashion, it crippled opponents enough to let someone else steal a victory." Classic (and correct) commentary!

[@switchback27]

Judging by the comments, some people have never heard of the concept of regeneration in MtG. Man I feel old.

[@kristopherwatts9466]

Hey!! Boo doesn't have rabies.. he just followed Minsc's lead and took levels in Barbarian. GO FOR THE EYES BOO, GO FOR THE EYES. WRRRRAAHHYH

[@evanperkins3467]

Turn 1 you always cast slicer !!!!! Slicer also can’t attack planeswalkers when it’s goaded…

[@Red_Mag3]

No ide why a Slicer deck would wait 4 turns, they should be dead by then. Too cautious

[@alexandermalarkey3773]

Exactly what I said. Slicer needs to drop on t1. It is not a normal stax deck. You stax after slicer hits not before.

[@elijahmyers4331]

FINALLY! I've been playing cEdh slicer since a month after he came out. I've been waiting patiently for this episode and HERE IT IS

[@RoyalScions]

Do you have a deck list for it?

[@MTG_Ronin]

Not sure what Cal was doing that game.

[@thelastrebel13]

And possibly rabies 😂 im stealing this quote

[@semicolon_cancer1243]

Variety!! Woo!! You love to see it.

[@Floor]

6:00 Slicer decks work much better when players actually know how goad works.

[@tomfossell473]

Haven't watched in about a year, I like the redesign and new music!

[@Kascep]

Why didnt cal sacrifice the 7/7 boo in the beggining? Once the fading counters hit 2 I would assume that you would get more value just drawing 7 cards since there was a high likelyhood that a haste creature would come out and kill monsc

[@gutsbadguy50]

Cal was misplaying the entire game, just wasn't his day.

[@lucasoyarzun9902]

That and he always tapped his boo, at least do some damage attacking!

[@alexandermalarkey3773]

Generally speaking you want to drop slocer on t1 not t3. The deck is very fast but doesnt do the midgame very well

[@Red_Mag3]

*Sees Slicer game, hits play*

[@P3rvenc]

A goaded creature has to attack a player (not a planeswalker or battle) other than you if it can

[@Jebrickothy]

I love y'all, I literally just started building this deck yesterday and have been looking around for advice. Thank you!

[@RobinRajamoosh]

Take a drink everytime Ryan says Slicer.

[@matthewmartin9983]

My favorite part of the game was Cal using a dandan as slicer

[@DayOfCasual]

9:33 very tapped indeed

[@bryantan4228]

Can someone explain what was up with Cal? I didn’t see anything blocking the infinite Sabertooth Dockside combo until 8:21 Torpor Orb, and I don’t see why he didn’t sacrifice the 7/7 Boo to draw which is surely enough.

[@seanmurphy3430]

I think he didn't go for the combo because he was playing around open blue mana; I have no idea why he didn't sac Boo.

[@bryantan4228]

@@seanmurphy3430 True, 7:23 Ashani had 2 open blue mana. That said you can't just play around that forever. IMO the failure to sac Boo was super omega greed. Probably was gonna keep ticking up to 20 at that rate.

[@1ntegrator]

He didn’t have enough mana to start the loop the turn Temur sabertooth came down and afterwards blind obedience stops him.

[@seanmurphy3430]

@@1ntegrator Oh, I hadn't thought about Blind Obedience shutting down Dockside loops. Okay, now it makes sense.

[@TripsAhoy]

Nice game. Def wonder how someone didn't die to commander damage!

[@justinveron698]

It's nice to see Slicer in a PWP video.

[@JoseCabrera-up5op]

gotta sac the hamster more!!!! FUN GAME

[@LightPink]

I've been waiting months to see a slicer deck!

[@vvGoose]

i love how you tried not to laugh when you said the rabies part about boo!

[@g4greed502]

I haven't played cedh in a little while, but shouldn't chalice of the void been destroyed by that culling ritual?

[@falconlord7811]

Minsc and boo are supremely underrated

[@apachee7511]

Didn't Cal have infinite treasures with Dockside and Temur Sabertooth ?

[@slymcfly123]

He had 3 treasures at the time I believe. So returning it to his hand and recasting it wasn't possible. I might be wrong but I wondered why he didn't go infinite at the time .

[@switchback27]

He had 3 so he couldn't go off, and then the next turn cycle Drake dropped Torpor Orb.

[@TheGrifcannon22]

Also Blind Obedience came down immediately after.

[@Kascep]

He had untapped lands though...

[@slymcfly123]

@@Kascep re-watch it. He doesn't. Blind Obedience hits right after.

[@adams333]

Is there a rule in Cedh that prevent huge hamsters to swing each turns?

[@stevierickmoyersr.8681]

I loved this game. Let's see an all Transformers as commanders CEDH game. I think they are powerful yet funky, but funky brings the best gameplay.

[@sorinmarkov11]

love the amount of combat damage in this game (thats why I'm also a hugt najeela fan)

[@kitsovereign4127]

It might be nice to also show the backside of DFC commanders in the intro so we get a chance to read it, especially ones a little less common like Slicer. (Also it's a little strange looking to watch it spin in with a regular Magic back!)

[@your_priscylla]

Too many folks being harsh to Cal. M&B is a surprisingly difficult deck to play, especially the storm version. It can be really unforgiving if you don't know when you go for the -2 Still a really good showing Cal! If you're interested in the deck more, I'd love to help 🐹💖

[@WhiteWizard42]

I'm sad that 10:57 didn't flash Appetite for Brains on screen.

[@Icecolten1]

Did someone gain control of Slicer? I don't think I heard you say that during this game.

[@xelendar]

I wish the lists were made in Moxfield

[@tavinsfilmproduction9786]

One of these days I’m gonna get on one of these games with my selvala explorer returned!!!!

[@Arthur-ux9ez]

Would have given the most valuable card to blind obediance, stoping comboes and enabling one was relevant enough

[@derekbryant5195]

I feel like that was Cal's game to lose and he fumbled the bag. It was a great game, but I feel like there should have been more interaction with the Timetwister. Excellent job as always yall

[@gabesorci1638]

Minsc and boo player could have tapped due to tangle wire and then make another hamster because tangle wire happens before the ability to make another hamster. Missed 4 damage or an extra card.

[@ArcDemonStudio]

But you cannot activate playnswallers at instant speed so he had no way of sacking boo with tangle on the stack

[@daflubbadubba1416]

I feel like with Ashani drawing as many cards as they did punishing them by putting counters on slicer with minsc and boo would have been a great play.

[@nicolascasime9248]

Question. Why didnt cal use the temur sabertooth and the dockside to generate infinite mana?

[@ChrisDavis-tt1dj]

He didn’t appear to have a draw engine and there were two other Red Players at the table. He probably didn’t want to feed another possible Dockside.

[@jamescamaratta93]

Love Ashani's lands, great taste. How did chalice of the void live thought culling ritual?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

It was regenerated through welding jar

[@jessespence696]

They must have changed the rule of extort because usually you wouldn't be able to play blind obedience in a white/blue deck. I think that rule was a slight change that probably didn't need to happen..

[@ayejay7024]

I have 0 idea why everybody allowed the ad naus player to stay at that much life for that long.

[@DayOfCasual]

All I hear is... Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer Slicer !

[@DrakeSasser]

Aw MAAAAAN 🦊

[@dasfabelwesen]

Is cal's minsk broken? I thought you can draw cards or was there notion thief fear?

[@entertainmentinc9735]

I think he’s just a bad player, that’s why.

[@connorl0204]

12:33 does the legend rule not cause a player to forcibly sacrifice one of the creatures? Therefore, since when an opponent gains control of slicer and it gains “cannot be sacrificed” the PhImage would have been the only option to sac?

[@fnx.M]

The legend rule doesn't make someone sacrifice: *704.5j If two or more legendary permanents with the same name are controlled by the same player, that player chooses one of them, and the rest are put into their owners’ graveyards. This is called the “legend rule.”*

[@MutantBamHammer]

Slicer! No slicing!

[@Justcallmeserr]

Why does Tangled Wire resolve before Slicer’s upkeep ability?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

They are both upkeep triggers that trigger at the same time. Since they do, you can stack them to resolve however you want.

[@rebelofjustice]

Temur sabertooth can block slicer easily by becoming indestructible through bouncing boo

[@tysanthecreator]

Why couldn’t he bounce dockside and go infinite??

[@rebelofjustice]

@@tysanthecreator short 1 mana

[@dsper7640]

Why flip slicer when he goes around the table? He has the same text no matter who controls him.

[@matticus_p626]

I thought you couldn't play blind obedience without black? Is that only for hybrid mana in the casting cost?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

You can. The hybrid symbol is in the reminder text, which isn’t included when determining the color identity of a card.

[@matticus_p626]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG That's really useful info, thank you :)

[@venomousspawn4086]

I might be wrong but wouldn't the chalice of the void have been destroyed by the culling ritual because it would have met the converted mana cost to be hit by the spell.

[@durza7173]

It was regenerated by some effect

[@Snaglbeest]

Welding Jar was sacrificed to regenerate it, preventing the destroy effect.

[@uphillwalrus5164]

Regenerated by welding jar

[@venomousspawn4086]

@@Snaglbeest Oh ok i missed that part

[@RagingPoo]

Why didn't the Chalice die to Culling Ritual?

[@johnphilbrick]

Is there a reason dockside is the only card that has a sound effect (which only happens the first time it comes out)?

[@fosterdawson7339]

They’re sponsored by a company who makes custom treasure tokens

[@matthewjohnson3656]

I think it’s the treasures that have the sound effect

[@justinlopez8977]

The mistake in this game was not attacking the same player with Slicer.

[@adamantlotus]

Has anyone seen Drake play a non-red commander? Just saying.

[@DrakeSasser]

I know I, for one, have not

[@adamantlotus]

@@DrakeSasser I think it's great that you've found a theme and stick with it.

[@CrOeDdE]

why did you use the 5 mana alchemy minds?

[@kalbz2991]

nice slicer❤

[@joesalmon778]

Doesn't Kal have infinite treasure's with Temur Sabertooth and Dockside? Why not make a gazilion treasures even without a wincon in hand?

[@Urros]

Shouldn't chalice of the void pop when the culling ritual happened? It's cmc is 0 on the battlefield.

[@ilpomaitre2929]

The welding jar regenerated it

[@emarmy00]

❤❤❤

[@misterychest4265]

Maybe im missing sonething but why the minsc olayer didnt combo with temur and dockside?? He could won the game on turn four. Infinite mana recast minsc draw ten cards.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Iirc I was one mana short of actually bouncing Dockside the first time but I do not recall :(

[@coriandyr]

They were missing torpor orb so much like the pilot that blocked after the lanawar elves should have been tapped but was still used to block 😅 and other similar patterns but magic is hard I understand

[@Silas_MN]

torpor orb doesn’t tap things

[@coriandyr]

@@Silas_MN you're right I was confused my bad

[@MRHaloman832]

What are you talking about, Slicer was definitely MVP

[@alessioc6219]

At 12.10, how did the calice survive culling rit? He sacced the other artifact to regenerate it, but it was before the culling rit resolved, so useless? Not getting the interaction there

[@entertainmentinc9735]

Put good players on the next video. I guess Cal wanted a 40/40 Hamster, and Drake could of done a turn 1 Slicer.

[@fnx.M]

Hey PWP! I know y'all need to pay the bills and all.. But is it really necessary to put the plug for your socials *after* the deck introductions? We already sat through the intro/advert, feels kinda bad to have the flow interrupted yet again by something us regulars likely already know anyway. I mean, thanks for the content, do what you gotta do, I respect the hustle and whatnot. Just a thought. :)

[@AidanWR]

Boo definitely does not have rabies

[@ccadet3298]

If Goaded Slicer is cloned wouldnt you have to sacrifice the clone to legend rule since goaded slicer can't be sacrificed?

[@noahpetrasko6777]

704.5j If two or more legendary permanents with the same name are controlled by the same player, that player chooses one of them, and the rest are put into their owners’ graveyards. This is called the “legend rule.” The legend rule doesn't actually sacrifice

[@switchback27]

That's the reason why Ryan narrates that "it's put into the graveyard as a state-based effect." It's not being sacrificed.

[@kablamio5736]

Then bring a decent slicer deck xD

[@jonathanosagie1829]

i dont fully understand doesnt he only have infinite colorless mana? also he would only draw 2/3 of his deck since he would need to also always discard one right?

[@angelasacchella3199]

Right, but he discard the card that he don't need (he Need only three cards of his deck in that Moment), he uses the mana from mox diamond to extort blind obidience

[@switchback27]

"Draws his deck" is essentially shorthand for "he can draw as much as he needs to" and then he cast Mox Diamond to get the colored mana with the Reversals

[@primepanda9855]

Please say Slicer again XD

[@ChrisDavis-tt1dj]

Man, great game. Congrats (Slicer) to (Slicer) Ashani (Slicer) for (Slicer) the (Slicer) win.

[@Funder1Nk]

Surprise ending

[@rhettbright1076]

Alex would have had to sacrifice his PhImage Slicer for legend rule since the original Slicer can’t be sacrificed, right?

[@MTHW4390]

Legend rule is not technically sacrificing, you just choose one to keep

[@rhettbright1076]

@@MTHW4390 gotcha. I wasn’t 100% sure. I saw mixed answered when I checked online

[@colethompson8561]

Am I missing something, the minsc & boo player had infinite mana dudnt they?

[@MtendoTheSkunk]

Did I miss something? Why is Chalice in play after Culling Ritual?

[@switchback27]

Welding Jar regenerated it

[@dimitriosdoulgeris4659]

Dear Ryan, maybe you crack your absolute monstrous jokes a bit later in the middle of the video because I laughed so hard on Boo probably having Rabies I wasn't able to continue to watch.

[@hydra1259]

Why didn’t the chalice die to culling ritual?

[@switchback27]

Drake sacrificed Welding Jar in response to Culling Ritual to regenerate Chalice.

[@MuteSpectre]

This did not feel like a cedh game

[@lococelsos]

Sorry, but culling ritual dont destroy the Chalice of void?

[@kekw4007]

It think if you Copy Slicer you have to sacrifice your copy to the legend rule as the original can’t be sacrificed

[@raedien]

Legend rule is not a sacrifice.

[@robertmendez8383]

Is there a reason to include pronouns under your names?

[@sorry987654321]

sooooo... wouldnt slicer have been much better instead of wire?

[@entertainmentinc9735]

Ya, him and Cal are bad players.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Well, at least this was an actual Slicer deck, not a Godo deck with Godo hidden in the 99... 🥲

[@fosterdawson7339]

I mean he had helm of the host so it’s possible…

[@kellyperry5009]

For the amount of hits slicer was getting, I feel like you guys forgot he's got double strike...