SLIP TEST - Fiat Panda Cross 4x4 vs Dacia Duster 4WD -

Join us on Facebook: / stacjakontrolitrakcji
Follow us on Instagram: / 4x4.tests.on.rollers
Fiat Panda Cross 4x4 0.9 TwinAir (2019)
vs
Dacia Duster 1.6 SCe 4WD (2018)
#duszaniespokojna #daciaduster #fiatpandacross

[@piotrkostecki_]

I dont see any cars here...

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

What do you drive?

[@piotrkostecki_]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Mercedes E 350

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@piotrkostecki_ And what is the problem with Duster and Panda?

[@piotrkostecki_]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Answer is in your question.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@piotrkostecki_ There are people buying these cars so there's no need to offend them this way. Besides - in Europe both are very popular as the second car in family while the first one is way more interesting than E350. The reason for that - both are giving great fun in areas where main one can't be driven.

[@Gklasse]

pretty decent for both of them , I own the Dacia. With lock and ESP off the system tries to deliver 25% in each wheel making it work like a diff lock. Does not always work perfectly but in general when you put lock you always deactivate the ESC

[@Mouse2113]

I have a Panda Cross 4x4 on order, can't wait to get it

[@urbansafari147]

what's the difference with the cross plz? is the 4x4 switchable in the pandas thanks

[@MrGoMario]

The EDL in the new Duster is a killer!!!! I have a LockRight locker in the rear axle and it only makes a difference at low RPM. Above 2500 the EDL is absolute MAGIC 👍

[@massimilianodazzi3315]

Panda is lighter then Duster and in off road this may help, they are both valid but from the video It seems to me that Duster system works better than panda maybe it has a more advanced electronic system because it is newest than Panda. Very good both on the whole

[@georgebarbaris1084]

Actually the Panda have the newest system the different is that panda have electronic hydraulic system with two differential one fore and one rere same as Haldex don't have center diff. From the other hand the duster have electronic magnetic system with center lock but this is the older system come from Nissan x trail fist generation. It's good system and helps also the traction control.. but if you keep lock for hours start to overheating the coupling..

[@massimilianodazzi3315]

@@georgebarbaris1084 I'm quite sure Panda 4x4 ha 3 differential, the front and the rear are normal diff. or open differential with electronic ABS system which locks the slipping wheel when necessary, the central differential is a electro-hidraulic diff. or a sort of primitive Haldex (in the previus model was viscous similar to Ferguson which losed efficiency with the heat during the strong and continuous use) which can trasfer the engine couple from the front to the rear until 50:50, this electro hydraulic differential is located on the rear near the rear opened classic differential. I don't know very well the Nissan traction ... thank you.

[@georgebarbaris1084]

@@massimilianodazzi3315 that's correct but What I meant that the four-wheel drive is based on two axes and the third differential you say is not differential but electric hydraulic multi disc clutch.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@massimilianodazzi3315 What you refer to as a differential is actually not a differential. It's a clutch-pack shifting power from front to back (one way - means one input, one output).

[@massimilianodazzi3315]

@@georgebarbaris1084 ok yes It is non a real differential but an Electronic hydraulic clutch 👍Panda cross is a very good 4x4 very efficient in the snow ecc. But from the video on The roller tests It seems Duster is more efficient above all in The Last one isn't It ?

[@jungleguybest]

Thanks a lot for this video. I like it because i have a manual duster 4wd and i love the twin air panda cross.

[@riccardomarinoni6733]

Ignis is better

[@jungleguybest]

@@riccardomarinoni6733 may be, but not in everything. Anyway i don't care, i love the twin air panda cross 4x4. Thanks for the message.

[@riccardomarinoni6733]

@@jungleguybest i'm italian, i drive it, the 1.3 diesel is way better. the panda is a old car, very outdated, bad interior quality and very high price

[@HEMI345S]

@@riccardomarinoni6733 Piece of junk, buy a Jeep (Grand Cherokee) not the home made Renegade 🤣🤣🤣

[@kc0lif]

both did good

[@user-lu1lh9zc1r]

面白いテストですね😊　いろんな四駆車　クロカン車を　試してみて欲しいですね😮

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Check our channel, they are all there 🙂

[@andreykakitis7025]

С новыми ценами на топливо и машины,скоро на велосипедах будем ездить!)))

[@muaythai193]

no problem kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWSccoyhpNSBj68

[@georgebarbaris1084]

One question, the fiat panda it's proactive or reactive awd system?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Unfortunately I don't have any info.

[@georgebarbaris1084]

Thanks for your answer. The suzuki vitara all grip? And the suzuki ignis auto all grip?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@georgebarbaris1084 All Grip Select from Vitara/S-Cross is proactive. All Grip Auto from Ignis is reactive.

[@georgebarbaris1084]

Thanks you brother

[@andinamm2246]

Hand brake is not allowed in this test..right?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Right, the point is to check if the system can do it by itself. Besides - handbrake wouldn't help here.

[@valefur72]

Wich was the last position on the knob of the Panda?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

What do you mean by last position? There were normal and offroad modes tested.

[@valefur72]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers HDC 👍

[@1wasinAlpha]

Decent performance from both... But NOTHING BEATS JIMNY :D

[@gaylord.b.cockburn]

Less space, more expensive, but true.

[@1wasinAlpha]

@@gaylord.b.cockburn MORE STYLE :D

[@MrGoMario]

Well, here in South Africa at Brakkeduine sand circuit, the 2 Jimnys did not even manage to get to the testing track 😂 Low rear differentials ground clearance ....

[@1wasinAlpha]

@@MrGoMario must be a driver issue

[@MrGoMario]

@@1wasinAlpha Not really. It was the poor, rear axle ground clearance. Any rocks higher than 20cm and you are stuck. You can use monentum and pray the impact won't crack open your rear diff 😢 The issue with the Jimny is: lifting the chassis won't improve the rear axle ground clearance... Only larger tires will do that. On the other hand, after a cheap body lift on my Duster (spacers on top of the springs), I have a whopping 31cm rear differential clearance. Not even the Ford Everests and the Toyota Fortuners can do that. When driving in Botswana, Namibia or Mozambique, I wait until a solid axel 4x4 drives past and I follow... His rear axle flattens the road for me 😂

[@JIMMYTAN860807]

Do you have test on Toyota Fortuner?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Unfortunately I don't :(

[@meeder78]

I don't think that it is available in Europe? It is however basically a Hi-Lux chassis and drivetrain with a different body.

[@pejt1978]

i prefer duster

[@mariuscristinelgascan2747]

Fiat panda

[@rafaelo78kali18]

Ciekawe jak by sobie poradził Toyota Yaris cross.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Szukamy ochotnika...

[@magabrysiak]

Albo Yaris gr

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@magabrysiak GR Yaris jest: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5y4foGqmNerjqM

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Jest Yaris Cross: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJnbdH1-aZKorrM

[@andreaquino27]

Suzuki Vitara

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXPYcp6werypja8

[@idealpersonal1231]

net so gut ....

[@poczta924]

Dacia is beter

[@BlackPantherJo]

🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱

[@user-th7bl8ed7e]

Фиат лучше!

[@carlossergio6467]

new VW polo is bigger than old polos. why Fiat Panda must be so small.? it can be bigger like daihatsu or jimny. .4x4 performance is good at Panda . but as a car it is small.. not useful

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Polo is B class. Panda is A class.

[@carlossergio6467]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers JIMNY İS A CLASS TOO its inside is larger than pandina :)

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@carlossergio6467 Jimny is three door true offroader, these cars cannot be compared. Ignis is the competitor of Panda.

[@florinancuta2549]

Duster is better then panda anyway, I drove both of them

[@RiderOftheNorth1968]

It depends on your car need, doesn´t it. The Panda is a smaller and more economical car than the Duster. For me the Fiat would be the better car.

[@propylaeen]

We drive a Panda 4x4 with roof tent and a kitchen with tank and water system in the back. It’s 1.3 diesel with 95PS its small for narrow roads anywhere Italy, France, Greece no problem… what there is a petty that there are not many aluminium rims and off-road tires but now we have Pirelli Scorpions 🦂 and its really great also on gravel roads and since we habe upgraded to B6 dampers its like a cat on wheels even with equipment and luggage 🧳 📷

[@Byk37]

new panda or older one?

[@propylaeen]

@@Byk37 the new Panda III (312) 4x4 1.3 Petrol Multijet 70KW/95PS Chiptuning 115PS; Front Shocks Bilstein B6 + Oldman Emu Springs (+20mm); Back Dampers Oldman Emu + Oldman Emu Springs (+20); next will be new Tires (Pirelli or Michelin) and plus 20mm per side. The front shocks improve the control in steering curves a lot! With the Back Kitchen and Roof-Tent a fun to ride.

[@Byk37]

@@propylaeen only sad thing is they no more makes 1.3 multijet with 6 speed manual :( that engine is awesome!

[@propylaeen]

@@Byk37 sad thing: ours only have five plus rear… is there a six shift gear box for that engine? Wondering if one could change it? We love the engine very robust, and the less drinking 4x4 on the market this car is showing of what would be possible following this path its so much better than so called german engineering.

[@Byk37]

@@propylaeen there was till 2010 6 speed manual, after 2010 fiat disabled 6 speed option for 1.3 multijet (Grande Punto for example). That engine was built in many other vehicles, for example Opel was putting it in Corsa D with 6 speed manual still after 2010. I'm thinking it's economic reasons, people would't buy other engines if they have 6 speed option with this one...