SLIP TEST - Opel Insignia 2.0 CDTI 4x4 vs Audi A6 2.0 TDI Quattro -

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4x4 / AWD slip tests on rollers channel

4x4 / AWD slip tests on rollers channel

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@jerry6396
@jerry6396 5 жыл бұрын
Opel WOW!!!
@seventhson4766
@seventhson4766 5 жыл бұрын
Opel surprisingly good!
@sanyey8405
@sanyey8405 4 жыл бұрын
there is nothing surprising in Opels being good...
@cino4919
@cino4919 3 жыл бұрын
@@sanyey8405 Opels are always good. Not very refined, but good they are.
@r.p.8133
@r.p.8133 5 жыл бұрын
Opel is better than Audi, respect Opel✌️
@cajsertv4062
@cajsertv4062 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhahahahahahhaa
@cajsertv4062
@cajsertv4062 4 жыл бұрын
After all, this movie is a quattro joke is the best 4x4 drive and movies of this type are pointless because a colleague recording a movie in the winter will not set himself up with snow to his knees so that your Opel Wgl moved then ahha
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 4 жыл бұрын
@@cajsertv4062 Talking about snow - are you aware of the fact that the system the Opel is using comes from Saab? And where is Saab from, ain't that a land of snow?
@cajsertv4062
@cajsertv4062 4 жыл бұрын
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers saab Wooow very wooooow😂🤣🤣
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 4 жыл бұрын
@@cajsertv4062 Nervous laugh ain't an answer. Not to mention that you obviously have no idea what kind of awd system is that. And considering your previous comment you don't know much about Quattro systems, do you?
@alexandermay339
@alexandermay339 5 жыл бұрын
Respekt opel!!!!!!💪
@maticsorn2784
@maticsorn2784 4 жыл бұрын
its saab's system .. swedish are good when it comes to snow
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын
@@christianronn5301 Actually you should give a credit to Saab - awd system used by Insignia I was developed by Saab and Haldex Group.
@Ce0ammer
@Ce0ammer 3 жыл бұрын
@@christianronn5301 kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3vHZKWvpamabsU
@haarstudiob8569
@haarstudiob8569 3 жыл бұрын
Yessss opeeellll
@ObsesifAdam
@ObsesifAdam 5 жыл бұрын
Opel surprised me
@martijnhoogesteger4466
@martijnhoogesteger4466 5 жыл бұрын
Wow good job Opel! And that for at least 30% less €.
@Lofider1
@Lofider1 5 жыл бұрын
I like opel. Respect🎩
@regatulfp3-urilor378
@regatulfp3-urilor378 5 жыл бұрын
Opel is putting the power to the ground very good (in this case haldex wins💪💪)
@dirkwickert6378
@dirkwickert6378 4 жыл бұрын
Gute Leistung vom Opel👍🏻
@iskander6480
@iskander6480 3 жыл бұрын
I had audi Quatro before and i think Opel i better , big brawo for Opel .
@Mr31Jole
@Mr31Jole 4 жыл бұрын
I love my insignia 4x4
@mikihupcej3479
@mikihupcej3479 6 ай бұрын
Buddy tell me how is your insignia doing thinking about buy one
@jimkrom
@jimkrom 3 ай бұрын
​@@mikihupcej3479I got a 2010 one, 2.0T 4x4 initially 220 bhp (actually dyno'ed it before I remapped it 2 months ago and it showed 219.5 bhp). Now on a remap it was dyno'ed at 285.5 bhp and 49kg of torque and it goes like there is no tomorrow. I have 155k km on the odometre, no issues whatsoever so far except the interior plastics started being a bit creaky on bad roads in the summer (but hey we have like constantly more than 35 degrees here in Greece in summer). Keep in mind it is a 14 year old car now so a bit of creaking is not unacceptable on bad roads, and I really am talking just a little bit, most people wouldn't complain about it. All I need now is a bigger intercooler, intake and exhaust and take it to my guy to log it. It should reach about 310 bhp after I install everything and log it to change the map for the new things.
@dmitriysvyatoy4482
@dmitriysvyatoy4482 5 жыл бұрын
Surprise from Opel
@serdarcalik2457
@serdarcalik2457 5 жыл бұрын
Opel the best car
@sebastianzamparooo5654
@sebastianzamparooo5654 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to genuinely agree but they're going down and down. Still, I like the insignia but bigger engines wouldn't be bas as options. The new one doesn't even feature a v6
@BeavisoPaulaner
@BeavisoPaulaner 5 жыл бұрын
Insignia's advantage = eLSD Its AWD system is, in fact, far more sophisticated than "just a Haldex". It comprises of a traditional multi-plate clutch (Haldex IV) and of an additional multi-plate clutch installed in the rear axle differential. Thanks to it, the vehicle's steering control system can use "torque vectoring" by applying differential lock mechanism -> eLSD. Electronically controlled limited-slip diff. Read about Saab XWD - it is the same as later installed in most of the Insignias. It gives a significant advantage while driving dynamically in curves - reduces understeer by applying torque to the outer rear wheel. Brakes are not used on the rear axle to "emulate" diff lock. Insignia is a very stable car, with very well-performing AWD system acting proactively before ESP has to intervene. I drove such Insignia for 3 years, and now I have the one with Twinster AWD, which is even better.
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
That's not exactly correct. Limited slip diff isn't applying torque to the outer rear wheel. It is increasing the torque on both wheels. That is why Twinster is better - it can apply torque to the outer rear wheel due to separate clutches for left and right wheels.
@BeavisoPaulaner
@BeavisoPaulaner 5 жыл бұрын
Please, take a look at the detailed explanation of how Insignia's AWD is built and how it is used by the vehicle's stability control system to distribute torque between axles and between individual rear wheels as well: kzbin.info/www/bejne/emKuZYmNeJiJpLs It can distribute up to 2700 Nm of torque (appx. half of top engine's performance in full throttle and 1st gear) to the rear axle. Moreover, the hydraulically-driven and electronically-actuated eLSD device can transfer up to 1200 Nm between rear wheels (side-to-side). It is used proactively while in curves to send more torque to the wheel with better grip (the outer wheel). There is no open differential - the eLSD is active and behaves accordingly to the stability control system settings (torque changes are actuated every 80 miliseconds or so). The use of eLSD is proactively enabled to ensure stability in tight curves or when rapidly changing direction. While driving, it doesn't wait for a wheel spin - it distributes torque as calculated by the stability control system. So it is a torque vectoring system. While accelerating from a start, it can distribute most of the available torque to a single rear wheel (without applying brakes). The GKN Twinster does the same but more efficiently and is more compact and lighter (there is no differential at all). There are two distinct areas of the AWD system: The mechanical side (how it is realised), and the control side (how it is applied), the second being the "brains" of the system, which is a very important but often omitted topic. From the mechanical point of view the system has its limitations, of course, like overheating, but in normal driving conditions it represents state-of-the-art system. The Insignia itself isn't well-built, because it is a nose-heavy family car with natural tendention to understeer, like most of the FWD cars. The AWD helped to reduce it, but one has to remember to golden rule: Keep gas pedal pressed in curves :) If you release it, you have a FWD ;)
@przemekwlodarczyk9029
@przemekwlodarczyk9029 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍 Opel bardzo dobrze wypadł w tym porównaniu! Bardzo sie cieszę bo sam jeżdżę Insignia 4x4! I jestem mega zadowolony.
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын
Wiele zależy od tego, czy masz wersję z eLSD :)
@przemekwlodarczyk9029
@przemekwlodarczyk9029 3 жыл бұрын
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers mam wersje poliftową
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын
@@przemekwlodarczyk9029 Zobacz, czy masz G96 w numerze VIN.
@przemekwlodarczyk9029
@przemekwlodarczyk9029 3 жыл бұрын
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers nie mam ! Poczatek VIN to W0LGT8EM5E.....
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын
@@przemekwlodarczyk9029 Zerknij na komentarze pod tym filmem: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4G9pHyLZ9mqgqc Dopytaj tam użytkownika Beaviso Paulaner, jest bardzo dobrze zorientowany w temacie Insigni.
@tezoox2164
@tezoox2164 5 жыл бұрын
No kurde tego bym się nie spodziewał Klasa 👏🏻👌🏼
@eskimo427
@eskimo427 5 жыл бұрын
As a VXR owner I'm very surprised and pleased by these results.
@sebastianzamparooo5654
@sebastianzamparooo5654 3 жыл бұрын
Pls tell me it's an insignia, you're talking about. I love that car
@eskimo427
@eskimo427 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianzamparooo5654 it is and I still have it, doubt I'll ever sell it.
@SuperFlachi
@SuperFlachi 5 жыл бұрын
I love Opel
@robertrobi95
@robertrobi95 4 жыл бұрын
Opel Love
@Luppus77
@Luppus77 5 жыл бұрын
Jestem pozytywnie zaskoczony Oplem. Chylę czoła
@adamcichanowski77
@adamcichanowski77 2 жыл бұрын
Jezdze oplami od Mlodych lat. Insygnia ST sport to moj najlepszy nabytek ze, wszystkich modeli opla jakimi, jezdzielem.
@vadimvitkovski7017
@vadimvitkovski7017 3 жыл бұрын
Opel 👍👍👍
@HC_MlGesus
@HC_MlGesus 4 жыл бұрын
105 dislikes from Audi Fanboys xD
@berkan5673
@berkan5673 4 жыл бұрын
Opel💪
@martodomingo6080
@martodomingo6080 3 жыл бұрын
Winner is Opel🤘😎
@marcindager7567
@marcindager7567 5 жыл бұрын
That's unfair, Audi has blue rollers and Opel red ones!
@telvaen7964
@telvaen7964 5 жыл бұрын
Yea, it was a fake
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
@@telvaen7964 Blue or red are fake...?
@marcindager7567
@marcindager7567 5 жыл бұрын
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers He might not get this joke
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
@@marcindager7567 That's why I asked the question 😉
@telvaen7964
@telvaen7964 5 жыл бұрын
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers both
@wojkor2597
@wojkor2597 5 жыл бұрын
OPEL wow !
@adamcichanowski77
@adamcichanowski77 2 жыл бұрын
Love opel insignia. 👍
@maidhamidovic8017
@maidhamidovic8017 5 жыл бұрын
Opel forever
@valefur72
@valefur72 Жыл бұрын
The Insignia after the 2015 restyling has also a vectoring differential at the rear. Probably one of the first on the market.
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's Twinster from GKN Driveline. But it's far away from being the first 🙂
@czarnyczarny7381
@czarnyczarny7381 4 жыл бұрын
Opel górą💪
@XverTy95
@XverTy95 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 2 жыл бұрын
@@XverTy95 Po wyłączeniu ESP/TC napęd Insignii może osiągać taki efekt, jak pierwsza generacja quattro przy zablokowanych dyfrach. Co w tym śmiesznego?
@manuelrusu7052
@manuelrusu7052 5 жыл бұрын
They say the last generation of Insignia is even better. :) GM proclaimed that is the fastest on reactions.
@normt5463
@normt5463 5 жыл бұрын
This is old Haldex system. The new GKN system on Insignia since 2018 is one of the better systems.
@Ghermy
@Ghermy 5 жыл бұрын
@@normt5463 After Subaru and Tesla
@normt5463
@normt5463 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ghermy no gasoline Subaru will get 38 mpg at 65 mph like my Buick Regal TourX 2.0T with torque vectoring AWD. Call me when Tesla offers a $25,000 wagon the size of mine.
@cino4919
@cino4919 3 жыл бұрын
@@normt5463 For the extra money a Tesla costs, I would buy an equivalent petrol car AND tons and tons of fuel. Electric is ideal but still too expensive imo.
@kaiko78
@kaiko78 5 жыл бұрын
Opel ✌️✌️✌️
@akakibardavelidze9198
@akakibardavelidze9198 4 жыл бұрын
respect opel ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
@rafaelcalha
@rafaelcalha 5 жыл бұрын
Hello. Excuse me but can someone tell me where can I buy rollers like these? Thanks!
@guidodalla
@guidodalla 2 жыл бұрын
Hi boys, tank you for testing, really useful and great surprise for the Opel !!
@mindenbennedvanamitkeresel8339
@mindenbennedvanamitkeresel8339 3 жыл бұрын
They both did it. I like both cars.
@mateuszbukowski4929
@mateuszbukowski4929 Жыл бұрын
Brawo !!! OPEL
@scientificgamers
@scientificgamers 5 жыл бұрын
Great videos brother
@eliadaccache8766
@eliadaccache8766 5 жыл бұрын
Opel wow better than audi
@Bankolio
@Bankolio 5 жыл бұрын
Опель 💪👍😎
@Maxpowera8
@Maxpowera8 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe someone knows where I can buy this rollers?
@Wisniovy
@Wisniovy 5 жыл бұрын
A6 Has Quatro ultra on 2.0tdi, that's not a full-time 4x4
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
Not this generation, this is C7. C8 may have Ultra or may have torsen (or crown gear).
@dmitriysvyatoy4482
@dmitriysvyatoy4482 5 жыл бұрын
Audi full time off road, if it not cvt
@wolf_66
@wolf_66 5 жыл бұрын
Insignia 👍👍👌💪
@ludovitberki8564
@ludovitberki8564 4 жыл бұрын
Insignia love you
@normt5463
@normt5463 5 жыл бұрын
Opel Haldex 4 or 5 FTW!
@sava121
@sava121 5 жыл бұрын
Test peugeot 508 hybrid 4×4
@ОРС1985
@ОРС1985 5 жыл бұрын
Ха! Опель рулит!!!
@erdemsarisoy7693
@erdemsarisoy7693 5 жыл бұрын
Opel ist das beste👍👍👍👍👍👍
@نصرنصر-ق2خ
@نصرنصر-ق2خ 5 жыл бұрын
Opel
@vadimvitkovski7017
@vadimvitkovski7017 5 жыл бұрын
Опель лучше справляется!
@AN77
@AN77 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Did you know if its safe to only replace front tyres? One of my front tire is damage, an can not be repaired, but its not worn out.
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It is recommended to change all tyres but if the rear ones are OK and the tread is not worn out much then it's OK to change just the front ones.
@akifkaplan4551
@akifkaplan4551 5 жыл бұрын
Insignia 😮 wtf
@padraigmurray8222
@padraigmurray8222 3 жыл бұрын
Insignia uses same haldex system as Saab, so Scandinavians driving around the Arctic circle in snow and ice in below zero temps..... They know a thing or 2 about 4x4 systems so 👍
@ozgurksk5394
@ozgurksk5394 5 жыл бұрын
Opel nicee car
@keremmkerem3761
@keremmkerem3761 5 ай бұрын
Flex Ride so good
@granit96
@granit96 4 жыл бұрын
Opel did better job than audi quattro
@seb1g319
@seb1g319 5 жыл бұрын
Opel the best! :D
@lamazver
@lamazver 5 жыл бұрын
Rollers only say half of the story. Opel uses haldex. It's interesting that Audi is almost always worst performing vehicle on rollers but on snowy road grip and control is best out there.
@overlogged
@overlogged 5 жыл бұрын
Mybe because it was meant for driving, not performing or looking good in syntetic tests ;P
@lamazver
@lamazver 5 жыл бұрын
@@overlogged well it could be 😁
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
@@lamazver Actually the awd system of Insignia can do the same as Quattro gen 1 on its maximum armament (locked at center and rear). Does anybody claim that Quattro 1 was bad?
@lamazver
@lamazver 5 жыл бұрын
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Nobody said that any of those drivetrains are bad. But from regular viewer of your video people tend to see that quattro needs more time/effort to come off. I personally own quattro with crown gear center diff and I'm genuinely jealous of those that have optional rear sport differential because its really great option for sports driving that audi actually isn't best at. Yours videos are great! Keep em coming🍻
@alimosa4165
@alimosa4165 5 жыл бұрын
opel and audi use haldex
@ibmujic4764
@ibmujic4764 2 жыл бұрын
Why people think audi quattro is the best,it was first massproduced awd but there are better systems,and audi fanboys are allways talking that quattro is better,i had one friend that claimed his audi a4 b5 quattro is far better then passat b5 4motion from the other friend,but they were the same car.
@viposek427
@viposek427 3 жыл бұрын
2:57 - Not all models Insignia 4x4 haves eLSD i think this model don’t have. Very intresting is Facelifting Opel Insignia 4x4 Tourer 2.0 CDTI BiTurbo
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын
It does have eLSD - 3:30
@viposek427
@viposek427 3 жыл бұрын
eLSD is “activated” when TC and ESP is OFF? Or only TC?
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын
@@viposek427 It is always active. But only when ESP/TC is off it locks itself strong enough to move the car forward (in these certain situation).
@Max-ck3id
@Max-ck3id 4 жыл бұрын
is better the opel?... why??
@tomekkat6081
@tomekkat6081 2 жыл бұрын
I Opel 1/2 ceny Audi wypada podobnie. Widać że inne napędy technologicznie zbliżyły się a nawet dorównują sławnemu quattro
@viposek427
@viposek427 2 жыл бұрын
Sława Quatro wywodzi się tylko i wyłącznie z reklamy, a w Polsce, że po komunie nic innego w osobówkach głównie nie było to ludzie się podniecali audi quatro. Teraz w końcu zaczęła się trochę inna era, Polaków jest stać na różne rzeczy i jest dostępność i powoli okazuje się, że to co kiedyś było legendarne wcale aż takie do końca legendarne być nie powinno co pokazują takie testy jak na tym kanale. W Polsce niestety dalej żyje się stereotypami.. już dawno audi, mercedes to nie jest wzór dobrego wykonania (przynajmniej te zwykłe modele), a ludzie dalej afiszują się marką gdzie nie ma to zupełnie najmniejszego sensu bo jest tyle wspaniałych samochodów, wystarczy wejść, obejrzeć, przejechać się, i okazuje się, że mamy oprócz niemieckich aut również na rynku fajne samochody innych koncernów - Francuzy, Amerykańskie, Japońskie, Koreańskie itp.. mam znajomego około 60 lat, który kupił citroena sam samochód mu się podoba, ale jeździ nim od 3 lat i nie może zdzierżyć, że ma logo citroena mimo, że sam samochód którym jeździ mu się podoba… to siedzi u wielu Polaków w psychice , a najgorsze jest powielanie stereotypów. Tak samo zauważyłem istnieje stereotyp u wielu starszych ludzi, że jak samochód jest duży i czarny to limuzyna i musi być dobry, a jak jest mały i nie czarny to już nie jest dobry bo według stereotypu nie jest już duży, czarny i dobry 😂 kompletnie idiotyczne podejście, małe, lekkie samochody są równie do dobre, a czasami nawet lepsze niż większe samochody bo różnymi względami. Jak ktoś nie potrzebuje wielkiej kolumbryny to po co ma jeździć wielkim samochodem i wozić wolne miejsce.
@egesevindi
@egesevindi 2 жыл бұрын
3:22 why you stopped using the sport mode?
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 2 жыл бұрын
I don't remember. I think there were some abs errors, not sure.
@ОлегАнтощук-б2к
@ОлегАнтощук-б2к 5 жыл бұрын
Опель красава.👍👍👍
@haarstudiob8569
@haarstudiob8569 3 жыл бұрын
Opeeeeeellll
@MotoAdS
@MotoAdS Жыл бұрын
Kupię opla ;-)
@joshuaminke6629
@joshuaminke6629 2 жыл бұрын
As a VXR supersport owner, I'm very impressed
@TheDiger32
@TheDiger32 5 жыл бұрын
2:25 quattro fail 😂😂😂
@Corsa15DT
@Corsa15DT 5 жыл бұрын
Hahah, Opel beats Audi in quattro
@ukasz5415
@ukasz5415 5 жыл бұрын
audi does not have a quattro, it has haldex. Quattro is just a sticker on the front hood . Audi a6 c5 have a real quattro .
@Corsa15DT
@Corsa15DT 5 жыл бұрын
@@ukasz5415 maybe so, but audi has global fame about its quattro system and opel maybe never even had a 4wd car.
@agroaugust7238
@agroaugust7238 5 жыл бұрын
@@Corsa15DT you can watch quattro vs xdrive vs 4matic. On that video's quattro is better
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
@@ukasz5415 There is no haldex in A6: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaOyeGNtaLBqpck Insignia has haldex.
@ЕвгенийСудмал
@ЕвгенийСудмал 5 жыл бұрын
@@agroaugust7238 нет, not better
@officialliviutzzu2239
@officialliviutzzu2239 28 күн бұрын
super opel
@LORENSSIOK
@LORENSSIOK 5 жыл бұрын
Is quattro torsen or haldex?
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
Torsen (or crown gear).
@GodSaveUs
@GodSaveUs 5 жыл бұрын
Ездил на 4х4 спорттурере - хороший авто
@tyablo
@tyablo 5 жыл бұрын
can you test awd Honda FIT of any generation?
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think I can find this car in my country...
@kokoroko210
@kokoroko210 5 жыл бұрын
Opel is the best!
@anthonyopc2892
@anthonyopc2892 5 жыл бұрын
Ô ô opel 😎
@bendude6748
@bendude6748 3 жыл бұрын
The insignia is OK when it works, many issues especially the 2.0 cdti engines
@jasonjdelaney4998
@jasonjdelaney4998 2 жыл бұрын
No issues with mine, I've a 2016 with a B20DTH 170bhp engine. 105k miles on the clock & still drives like new. Trick is, treat your car as you would treat your body. The car only ever gets Castrol Edge Titanium oil & DPF cleaner every second full tank of diesel.
@bendude6748
@bendude6748 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonjdelaney4998 it’s the A20DTH that have the most issues. low oil pressure, leaking coolant tanks, snapped cambelts, DPF issues and even quite a lot of them setting on fire at the side of the road. To be fair your car is only 5 years old, keep it until it’s 10 years old and then decide if it’s a good car.
@Peniacsimon
@Peniacsimon 5 жыл бұрын
Audi do not have another mods?
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@ChrisTian-ex9yc
@ChrisTian-ex9yc 4 жыл бұрын
Can you tested a Insigina-B 2.0 Biturbo 4x4 209PS or 2.0 Turbo 260PS 🤔 ?
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 4 жыл бұрын
If I only find such car...
@ChrisTian-ex9yc
@ChrisTian-ex9yc 4 жыл бұрын
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers in Germany no problem 😅😉 That would be very interesting because the Insignia-B (Buick Regal GS, Vauxhall Insignia-B) has 4x4 Torque Vectoring 👍
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisTian-ex9yc It is not a problem to find a car. The problem is to find an owner who will share it for the test ;) And yes, Insignia B has Twinster system.
@ChrisTian-ex9yc
@ChrisTian-ex9yc 4 жыл бұрын
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I have an Insignia-B GSi Sports-Tourer, come to Germany 😅. I am interested in how well the Twinster performs in the test 😎
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisTian-ex9yc Where exactly are you? I drive to Germany few times a year :)
@noerden91
@noerden91 5 жыл бұрын
would have been more of a test too see an Audi A6 3.0TDI quattro with the real Quattro the 2.0l Tdi has pretty much exactly the same 4x4 as the opel
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
Nope, every A6 (except some C8) has real Quattro.
@napraznicul
@napraznicul 5 жыл бұрын
That a6 has torsen center diff, opel has a multi-clutch assembly, but not a real diff. That test is about ELECYRONICS, not about diff's. It's about how fast reacts traction control via the abs system which simulate a psudo-limited-slip diff, apply the brake on the wheel(s) which had no grip.
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
@@napraznicul Actually Insignia has more than that, meaning additional clutch pack in rear diff.
@napraznicul
@napraznicul 5 жыл бұрын
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers still no real centrer diff, even if she got a electronically controlled lsd for rear axle (which help, of course)
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
@@napraznicul Newer version doesn't have center diff to, it doesn't even have rear diff but it probably handles much better than torsen Quattro, so I wouldn't stick to it too much.
@АлександрГончаров-з6ж
@АлександрГончаров-з6ж 3 жыл бұрын
Я не ожидал такого результата... где торсон то?
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын
If you mean torsen - it is in A6.
@RK-ly5qj
@RK-ly5qj Жыл бұрын
Opel wychodzil z haldex z eLSD wiec tj spora przewaga, aczkolwiek tu nie wiemy czy jest w pojezdzie. ;) a tu macie informacje dlaczego torsen zadzialal tak a nie inaczej. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpWsapd9j558eZY
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers Жыл бұрын
Jest 👍
@RK-ly5qj
@RK-ly5qj Жыл бұрын
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers nooo to nie ma co porownywac xD szpera sie zaciesni wiec trakcja jest na dwa kola a nie jak przy "otwartym" dyfie xd ja doceniam bardzo to eLSD. Robi robie glownie w zakretach, ostrych manewrach, autko bardzo stabilne;)
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers Жыл бұрын
@@RK-ly5qj Wszystko się zgadza. Ciekawa rzecz, która wyszła w teście - przy ruszaniu, dopiero po pełnym wyłączeniu ESP/TC, eLSD pracuje na 100%.
@RK-ly5qj
@RK-ly5qj Жыл бұрын
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers podobno tryb sport zapina na stale tyl. Ciekawe ile w tym prawdy a to o czym mowisz moze miec sens w koncu te systemy maja za zadanie stabilizacje toru jazdy. Choc podobno sam sterownik Haldexu rowniez bierze odczytu z pompy abs ;)
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers Жыл бұрын
@@RK-ly5qj Wszystko można sprawdzić za pomocą np. MaxiEcu - ciśnienie zarówno na haldexie, jak i na eLSD.
@maghnaurs2686
@maghnaurs2686 3 жыл бұрын
insignia❤️
@gerhardr733
@gerhardr733 4 жыл бұрын
Ich mag meinen Insignia (-;
@akademik_st
@akademik_st 5 жыл бұрын
Полный привод на опеле лучше чем кватро🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Ваг конечно пиздец
@ХамзаибнХашим
@ХамзаибнХашим 5 жыл бұрын
у опеля не халдекс ли?
@ЕвгенийСудмал
@ЕвгенийСудмал 5 жыл бұрын
@@ХамзаибнХашим кажется да. И халдекс лучше кватрЫ😂
@Djonsonline
@Djonsonline 5 жыл бұрын
@@ХамзаибнХашим он самый, халдекс!
@zynaps-u6e
@zynaps-u6e 5 жыл бұрын
Вот тебе и хваленый привод кваттро. Опель удивил!
@ДмитрийНиколаев-г2х
@ДмитрийНиколаев-г2х 2 жыл бұрын
на инсигнии есть блокировка на задней оси для лучшей рулежки (перекидывает момент на внешнее заднее колесо), она ей и помогает выехать
@vertilozyska3298
@vertilozyska3298 5 жыл бұрын
Opel zaskakująco dobry napęd. Brawo Opel. Audi - hmm...
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
Dobrze zestrojony haldex w zestawieniu ze szperą w tylnym dyfrze.
@vertilozyska3298
@vertilozyska3298 5 жыл бұрын
duszaniespokojna - 4x4 tests on rollers 👍
@marcinhorowski1656
@marcinhorowski1656 5 жыл бұрын
I tak torsen to torsen i rolki to se można zrub chłopie ten test na półmetrowym śniegu i ten złompel dostanie po dupie bez ale. Pozdrawiam
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
@@marcinhorowski1656 A cóż takiego nadzwyczajnego robi torsen? Ten mechanizm ma ponad sto lat, Audi lata temu zaczęło go porzucać na rzecz innych rozwiązań, zarówno mechanicznych, jak i sterowanych elektronicznie.
@ASFerreira
@ASFerreira 5 жыл бұрын
Audi quattro fail over the Opel big lol
@ilmark001
@ilmark001 5 жыл бұрын
Baba nie dzievczyna, opel nie maszyna 😁
@4dri4nwielki38
@4dri4nwielki38 5 жыл бұрын
Jak mozna porownywac audi klasy premium do opla pelnego cebuli
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
Jeżdżą po tych samych drogach. A porównanie dotyczy tylko i wyłącznie układów awd, a nie całych samochodów.
@eandrea255
@eandrea255 5 жыл бұрын
Bez kitu wiarygodnie xD
@JusttRelaxx
@JusttRelaxx 5 жыл бұрын
The wheel sizes are sooo different on the two cars.......
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
How different? 1.5mm?
@JusttRelaxx
@JusttRelaxx 5 жыл бұрын
17” оr 18” on the Audi vs 20” on the Opel. And a completely different tyre sizes.
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
@@JusttRelaxx Doesnt' matter. Outer diameter is almost the same.
@JusttRelaxx
@JusttRelaxx 5 жыл бұрын
duszaniespokojna - 4x4 tests on rollers What about the width of the tyres?
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
@@JusttRelaxx How does the width influence the test? Sizes are 225/55R17 & 245/45/R18. So wheels in Audi has 1.6 bigger diameter than in Opel.
@ЭндрюЭндрю-я8ц
@ЭндрюЭндрю-я8ц 5 жыл бұрын
Так, Орел оказывается крут!!!!
@LG20121
@LG20121 5 жыл бұрын
жопель
@Unknown-rk9qm
@Unknown-rk9qm 5 жыл бұрын
Can't belive :O and they thought quattro is the best 4x4 on the market...
@andrejkostovski5172
@andrejkostovski5172 5 жыл бұрын
i dont think 2.0 tdi got the quattro 4wd system i think its haldex on lower powered engines
@Unknown-rk9qm
@Unknown-rk9qm 5 жыл бұрын
@@andrejkostovski5172 ohh..so haldex is on both cars?
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
@@andrejkostovski5172 No, there is no haldex in any A6.
@andrejkostovski5172
@andrejkostovski5172 5 жыл бұрын
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers i thought the lower powered engine had haldex 4wd system,above 3litre had quattro,my bad.anyway nice video
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
@@andrejkostovski5172 That is some ridiculous myth, often repeated. But power doesn't matter. Only models with transverse engines have haldex. All A4 or A6 have longitudinal engines.
@criss5293
@criss5293 3 жыл бұрын
Audi be like " They see me rollin' on rollers " but I can't get out of them :))) opel is king here , ok diesel ....hmm nea but a petrol engine :>:> better , love you guys
@karolzabielski
@karolzabielski 5 жыл бұрын
Posiadam taka audi i jestem bardzo zadowolony że esp działa tak że auto w razie poślizgu traci moc na tyle że idealnie wraca do toru jazdy. Opel może z włączonym esp ma większe szanse z wyjazdu ze śniegu ale jak zachowa się w krytycznej sytuacji z tak sztywnym i późno wlaczajacym się esp? Wolę w takich sytuacjach pozostać w audi choć znajdą się tacy którzy będą twiedmrdzic inaczej. Miałem kilka groźnych sytuacji na drodze spowodowanych moja brawura jednak audi nigdy mnie nie zawiodło i zdlawilo silnik w odpowiednim czasie
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
Nie bardzo rozumiem, co masz na myśli pisząc o sztywnym i późno włączającym się ESP w Oplu. Jedyne, co robi ESP w tym teście to ogranicza obroty silnika, reszta to kontroli trakcji. Z testu na rolkach nie można wyciągnąć żadnych wniosków dotyczących dynamiczniego działania układu napędowego.
@MrGoro1990
@MrGoro1990 5 жыл бұрын
No chyba w każdym aucie tak dziala ESP xD
@karolzabielski
@karolzabielski 5 жыл бұрын
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Jeździłem wieloma młodymi autami i w niektórych podczas poślizgu trakcja nadal napędza koła przez co auto późno wraca na właściwy tor jazdy. W audi jest inaczej. Dużo wcześniej silnik jest dławiony przez co uslizg kół jest przez chwilę i dużo szybciej auto wraca na właściwy tor jazdy. Na filmie widać że dopiero po wyłączeniu trakcji audi jest bardziej narowiste. Podczas wyjazdu z zaspy czy błota w audi obowiązkowe jest wyłączenie systemów.
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
@@karolzabielski Powrót na tor jazdy to działanie ESP, tego w tym teście nie widać i trzeba pytać użytkowników Opla, jak to działa podczas jazdy w ich samochodach. Dławienie silnika w Audi i tak jest niewielkie w porównaniu np. do Mercedesa. W nowszych modelach można poniekąd kontrolować działanie takich systemów poprzez wybór trybu jazdy, co imho jest fajnym rozwiązaniem (pod warunkiem, że zmiana trybu rzeczywiście coś zmienia...).
@BeavisoPaulaner
@BeavisoPaulaner 5 жыл бұрын
Nie potrafię odpowiedzieć w pełni, bo nie doprowadziłem Insignii to takiej sytuacji, żeby ostro interweniować musiało ESP. Czasem coś tam chrupnęło przy kołach, ale bez ingerencji w silnik. Wydaje mi się, że ESP nie tłumi silnika, tylko polega wyłącznie na przyhamowaniu kół, co odczuwało się na śniegu, gdy przód chciał uciekać (podsterowność). Ale - jak napisałem - nie wprowadziłem Insi w poślizg. Pomijam celowe kręcenie bączków na śniegu z wyłączonym ESP i TC, co przychodziło z łatwością ;) I nie rozumiem o jaki poślizg chodzi autorowi posta? O boczny czy o uślizg (buksowanie) kół przy przyspieszaniu? To drugie nie występowało w Insignii na mokrym asfalcie, bo system skutecznie rozdzielał napęd (przy przyspieszaniu głównie na tył). Silnik 2.0T. 250 KM i 400 Nm to było już sporo, ale układ trzymał je w ryzach całkowicie. Nawet przy starcie na 100% (skrzynia manualna) nigdy nie zanotowałem interwencji kontroli trakcji na mokrym asfalcie! Na śniegu buksowała tylna oś. Trzeba było uważać na śniegu, bo także po depnięciu na 2. biegu można było zamiatać tyłem przy aktywnej kontroli trakcji, która dawała pewne opóźnienie reakcji (przynajmniej w trybie Sport tak było). W sytuacjach podbramkowych jest tak, że układ 4x4 wyprzedza działanie ESP zanim te musi zareagować. Raz byłem świadkiem (prowadziła żona), jak na mokrej szosie musieliśmy ominąć element, który wypadł z ciężarówki tuż przed nami, żona odruchowo zrobiła "test łosia" przy ok. 100 km/h, w ułamku sekundy pomyślałem, że się wyłożymy, a tymczasem Insignia nawet nie stęknęła, tylko poszła wężykiem jak po szynach. Zrobiło to na mnie wówczas ogromne wrażenie (trwa do dziś). W nowej Insignii, którą pozwalam sobie na więcej w ciasnych zakrętach (napęd 4x4 Twinster i świetne opony PS4S), słyszę czasem jak ESP chrupnie przy przednich kołach korygując przód, ale nie ma to wpływu na dodawanie gazu. Nie chciałbym, żeby w poślizgu ESP odebrało mi możliwość ratowania się napędem, to byłoby głupie... Od ujęcia gazu mam prawą nogę nie z drewna, tylko połączoną z mózgiem i "receptorami poślizgu" w tyłku i plecach ;)
@kaneclone3387
@kaneclone3387 5 жыл бұрын
quattro słabo sobie radzi w porównaniu ze zwykłym haldexem....
@PerFORmaance
@PerFORmaance 5 жыл бұрын
quatrro to nie tylko torsen tylko nazwa zarezerwowana dla audi. A3 np mialy haldexa a to tez "quattro"
@alexeyyelizov5804
@alexeyyelizov5804 5 жыл бұрын
Опель красава👍
@andreiionescu9482
@andreiionescu9482 5 жыл бұрын
Quattro epic fail
@kakosezovem4540
@kakosezovem4540 5 жыл бұрын
Only Subaru AWD
@dmitriynasledkov1965
@dmitriynasledkov1965 5 жыл бұрын
Opel is a class D, Audi is a class E. Insignia must be compared with A4.
@Alexdj44
@Alexdj44 5 жыл бұрын
Что нашли,то и сравнили!
@dmitriynasledkov1965
@dmitriynasledkov1965 5 жыл бұрын
@@Alexdj44 так разный же тип 4х4. У А4 халдекс муфта и она ближе к принципу полного привода жОпеля
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
@@dmitriynasledkov1965 There is no haldex in A4. Here is the same Insignia vs A4 Allroad: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3fQiqaYrcSVb80
@ministermatmy
@ministermatmy 5 жыл бұрын
Już nawet Ople są lepsze od vag-ów xDD
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 жыл бұрын
Insignia A to poważny zawodnik. Ma awd pochodzące z Saaba, czyli haldex + eLSD z tyłu, co w maksymalnym uzbrojeniu daje taki efekt, jak Quattro pierwszej generacji na dwóch zblokowanych dyfrach.
@AZ-qd4fu
@AZ-qd4fu 5 жыл бұрын
Tak to było je sąd na śnieg i tam dopiero test zrobić XD opel oszczalby nachy i też nie ma wspominki jakie są skrzynie jaki silnik waga spróbujcie 2 kombi gdyż są ciezzsze test spalony
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