SLIP TEST - Subaru Forester SH vs Honda CR-V III vs Nissan X-Trail II - @4x4.tests.on.rollers

[@peterjamieson2441]

The Honda surprised me in how well it did. No surprise re the excellent performance from the Subaru. The Nissan did well as was quite graceful and the least dramatic.

[@Lazy_Tim]

Thanks for these tests mate. My me realise AWD is not for me.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@Lazy_Tim Why?

[@АндрейСуслов-х2й]

Did the Subaru transmission lock into position 1 when only one rear wheel was on the ground? This is recommended in the user manual for difficult conditions.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

No, we didn't try that. But we did try that when both rear wheels were on the ground and there was no locking effect.

[@АндрейСуслов-х2й]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Subaru recommends for this Forester in difficult conditions to turn off the ESP and force it into first gear. But I still trust your practice tests. You are doing very useful work. Thanks!

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@АндрейСуслов-х2й It did work on Forester SG with VTD, 1st gear was locking the center diff. Here we have ACT-4 and there was no difference between 1st and D. Thank you!

[@nagval7592]

На Subaru D стоял или 1 передача? Там распределение по разному идет. На 1 передаче почти 50/50 на D 90/10.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

D. It's not 90/10 but variable, up to 50/50.

[@fatihkasapp]

In D mode it 90/10 to 50/50, but in manual 1 it directly 50/50. May be it can make slight difference.

[@grigorijczajkowski5653]

Dzięki! Bardzo bym chciał zobaczyć WRX 2015 z manualną skrzynią biegów.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Jeśli tylko znajdzie się ochotnik z WRX, to przetestujemy 🙂

[@Eugen-E]

Is there any difference between the diagonal test and with the wheels from both sides on rollers ?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Mechanically - no. But it's different situation for the software.

[@Softroader]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I think it's not just a software difference. There's also a significant influence of left/right mass distribution.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@Softroader Sure but I don't think it determines the result in terms of pass/fail, rather slight difference in reaction.

[@Softroader]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I personally believe that this has a significant influence, on the contrary. On the one hand, the vehicle remains flat, on the other, it tilts sideways. Its center of gravity is therefore no longer in the same place. And this influences inertia and brake activation moments. This creates different torques on each axle; in the same direction when they are on the same side, in opposition in the other case.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@Softroader I don't think it's that significant. Wheel sitting in a roller is about 3 cm over the payment and that's the starting point. Wheel on the top of the roller is about 8 cm over the payment but then the suspension travel plays a role. Obviously these factors do make a difference but imho they don't change the overall results of these tests.

[@0HOON0]

Haven't we seen 2nd, 3rd, and 4th generation CR-Vs fail this test? What's different? Better traction control programming in some regions?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Which test do you mean, which configuration?

[@0HOON0]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I was remembering CarCaine and Teknikens Värld videos. Now that I rewatch them, your tests show a more consistent performance from most CR-Vs.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@0HOON0 Teknikens Värld tested CR-V IV, it failed the same way as in our tests. We took some more versions of that generation, the biggest problem (fails) were with those with manual transmissions. There's a lot of unknown about this awd system, including six versions of rear diff. But here it's 3rd gen. When it comes to CarCaine - it cannot be treated seriously.

[@0HOON0]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Poor memory on my part. Gotta rewatch all your videos again. Thanks for the time you take to do thorough testing.

[@nagval7592]

Если есть возможность найти Subaru Outback BP9 или BPE 3.0 их протестить там разные коробки и распределение по осям.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Outback with VCD: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJfIg2ppgct7ic0 Legacy with VTD: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmWkeqiFl99klc0

[@nagval7592]

​@@4x4.tests.on.rollersнет,это уже вариатор. Я про прошлое поколение.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

​@@nagval7592We have tested only two Subarus with VTD - that is the Legacy above and a Forester SG. When it comes to manual (VCD), we have tested the Outlander above, Forester SF and a Legacy, all videos are on our KZbin channel.

[@jackzhang2820]

subaru forester sh manual vs automatic, please.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

If we only find manual...

[@wykwyk001]

In the last scene, Honda CRV rear left brakes turns red. 😮

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

That's a reflection of a red car parked behind the camera.

[@wykwyk001]

😅

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@wykwyk001 Don't worry, you're not the only one who thought it turned red ;)

[@chnbbs5157]

1. Daihatsu Terios 1.3 1998-2007 2. Fiat Panda 169 mk3 3. Honda HR-V 1.6 1999-2005 4. Renault RX4 5. Subaru Justy test please

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

HR-V: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXu7mnuvYth9apY Panda: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJOolICwq8-ko5Y

[@musasizigodfreydixion6231]

Which model of Subaru is that?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

It's stated in the title, description and intro.

[@何文昌-d9p]

Have MG HS 2.0 4WD,TEST?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Unfortunately it's not available in my country.

[@zygmuntzarzecki]

ale że subaru nie pojechało?

[@maqczo]

Ciekawe co gdyby Subaru było MT...

[@SIATKOSZ]

Może dorzucimy jeszcze próbę w trybie manualnym na 1 biegu AT 😊

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@SIATKOSZ Słuszny plan 🙂

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

​@@Arek771yZupełnie inny rodzaj napędu S-AWD.

[@nagval7592]

​@@Arek771yРаспределение момента между осями,на коробке TZ1 в D режиме 90/10 в пользу переда на 1 передачи почти 50/50 по осям.

[@cuongle-rc5ob]

Subaru need on x-mode

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

This one doesn't have it.

[@muallim5468]

forester sh dizl manuel nasıl olur acaba

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

I think it would be worse.

[@АртёмК-с9с]

На срв он что ручник забыл снять диски красные 😄

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

That's a reflection of red car parked behind the camera.

[@Auringonottaja]

It would be fantastic if someone with some brains, and also with an ability to speak, could do this test and walk us through which models and generations the cars are, which 4WD systems they have, what the tests are and what the findings are.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Subaru Forester, 3rd generation, S-AWD ACT-4, primarily front wheel drive, rear axle powered by electronically controlled hydraulic multiplate clutch pack. Nissan X-Trail, 2nd generation, All Mode 4x4-i, primarily front wheel drive, rear axle powered by electronically controlled electromagnetic multiplate clutch pack. Honda CR-V, 3rd generation, Real Time AWD, primarily front wheel drive, rear axle powered by mechanically controlled multiplate clutch pack (Dual Pump system).