Slow DOWN Your SHOULDERS || SPEED UP Your ARM

everything needs top be fast in order to through far but the shoulders in relation to the hand needs to be slower

[@justinforsythe1360]

Quick tip, you can go frame by frame on youtube, just use the , to go backwards, and the . to go forward a frame

[@DiscManiac28]

Ok sweet thanks for info don’t know why I didn’t do that lol 😂

[@TheButlerNZ]

@@DiscManiac28 there's also the settings (bottom right) that has a playback speed... and Click+hold on the video gives you a 2x speed... (Which is still 2x normal even when playing back at slow speeds)... I think they all keep the audio... 2x can be hilarious

[@leogoku13]

Funny how a KZbinr doesn't know how to use KZbin

[@DiscManiac28]

@@leogoku13 lol 😂

[@TheButlerNZ]

@@leogoku13 That's the difference between someone pumping out content to make money, and someone sharing their love of a subject when they can find the time. I did the same for MTB.. No monetisation and a lot of work for a small targeted local audience.. but I haven't been riding lately so no videos... Instead, here I am picking up tips on another pastime.. throwing plastic at trees... (and not dooin too badly for a 55yo that started Disc yeetin in 2022 ish).

[@krUsberry]

A ton of people look at Paul for form tips but i feel like he is one of the hardest to replicate with how much body he is compared to arm. Catching up with the arm like that is mega hard. I really like the explanation of the two different styles that OT made relatively recently. Wide reach back is pulling straight, letting the bodyparts almost hand off to eachother in a straight line (shoulder->elbow->hand->disc) and the more rotation based is out-in-out consciously. However, i do think that the slower upper body is something that helps regardless of "style" of throw. Great vid!

[@DiscManiac28]

Thank you, yeah Paul’s I think is very hard to copy or duplicate. But I like looking at it in some cases cause he does have good things to look at. There are lots of styles and I try to take some from all to match my form as best as I can…. Or forms I can relate to easier. It’s been a long road changing my form, lol I’m sure in a year from now it will be a little different. It’s good stepping stones in the right direction. :) have a great day

[@erikverf1604]

This is huge man, thanks! Who knew the antidote to my rounding was to bring the disc to the back shoulder lol. I've never had such effortless straight shots, 0 shanks to the right so far. haha :D

[@DiscManiac28]

That’s fantastic :) super cool to here it did the same thing for me

[@michaelcushman]

Excellent observation and not "pulling" the disc into the position. I'm guessing all the pros bounce the disc inward. The stretched back muscles release, and the disc effortlessly springs toward the chest, true?

[@DiscManiac28]

Seems to me to be true.

[@Januthen]

Love it! This definitely has excited me to learn this now. I always assumed the power pocket was the same thing you used to think too. This helps loads, Thanks!! You made me a new subscriber😊

[@DiscManiac28]

Well thank you, definitely thanks for subscribing:) have a good day and I hope you can get that more accurate and more distance we all are looking for lol

[@Audiot4pe]

Going to give this a try tomorrow when I go out and practice. I really dig that LotR inspired stamp for the Hex. FYI: when reviewing videos on KZbin, you can use "," and "." keys to go backwards and forwards frame by frame in a video.

[@DiscManiac28]

Sweet, sounds like a plan, hope it works for ya. I like the stamp as well, they do a good job. Thanks for frame by frame tips, my first video like this but it’s been a good learning experience so far. I learn just as much from people who comment as y’all do from me. So thanks

[@DavidSanchez-ur9tt]

Great efn video and ive seen a bunch.

[@DiscManiac28]

@@DavidSanchez-ur9tt thanks man, much appreciated

[@MikeD.-jl7oe]

Fantastic video. Clearly mentioned a lot of the problems I've had as well trying to learn the disc golf swing using traditional steps. A little more editing would be helpful but you still did a much better job in being concise than many.

[@DiscManiac28]

Thanks, I hope it helps you, it was my first time doing a video like this, as far as showing pro forms and going back and forth. It was a good learning experience all the way around

[@hmnim]

Thanks for this. Your explanation of the back shoulder move is kind of a 💡moment for me. I'd been doing it on standstills to generate a little more arm speed/power without a full reachback/coil. Never thought of incorporating it into my full throw. I picked it up years ago from watching Simon but never understood the 'why?' behind it. You can really see the back shoulder move on his 150ft and 250ft throws in the Slo-Mo video from Overthrow.

[@DiscManiac28]

Ok sweet, I’ll have to go watch his slower throws, thanks for feedback :)

[@DiscManiac28]

It was definitely a 💡moment for me as well

[@tough101]

Thank you so much for this. I can already throw over 400” but just want to keep improving. Nice vid

[@DiscManiac28]

Thanks 400 is a good throw, I wanna get to were I can throw 500 consistently but it’s hard to get that distance

[@anderschristianhaldpederse8472]

a thought that helped me achieve the same thing.... "watch your toes" untill you've released the disc. Keeping your eyes on a specifc spot on the ground for instance the tip of your toes, keeps your head down and locked from following the disc, and thereby keeping your shoulders in check. That swingthought made instant results for me, for 1 to hit intended lines AND adding massice distance pretty much instantaniously...

[@DiscManiac28]

I’m gonna have to try that out, thanks for tip

[@samuraistang739]

Makes sense with the hand coming through first…I can 360 close to 600 and what I try to do is let my arm go through as soon as I plant from the 360…It’s almost the feeling of hitting a homerun while keeping my head down on the ball so to speak….keeping my head on the ball (so to speak) while letting my arm go through allows me to keep my shoulders back if that makes sense.

[@DiscManiac28]

Yea makes sense to me, 600 ft is a bomb for sure that’s a fantastic distance. It’s funny how it all works, “form wise”. when I started I was trying to throw far and my form was awful and it was Barely making it 300 and I was putting all I had into it, now 300 is super easy.

[@pabloscota6991]

Thank you so much for this awesome tip, gonna try it today. but it even feels great on shadow swings

[@DiscManiac28]

Very welcome, hope it translates good when in real practice, it seemed to help me a lot. If you can do it right it will make a difference

[@mickster_t]

Makes perfect sense, come to think of it - it's more leverage and more rotation, bringing the disc to the back shoulder like that. Something to experiment with! Good on you.

[@DiscManiac28]

Thank you, I’ve noticed I’m throwing it a lot further than I used to, I’ve started out driving holes that I used to come up short on. It’s a pretty cool thing for sure, thanks for feedback,

[@Grannyknockers]

I like it, haven’t heard this explained thus way before

[@DiscManiac28]

I haven’t really either, I wasn’t sure if it was the right way to think about it but I’m throwing further so I thought I would mention lol 😂

[@Krayonbox1]

This was pretty helpful. I never thought about this. I’ve been stuck at 270-290ft for a while now. I’ve recorded myself so many times and took lessons from a pro out here. I was starting to work on the twirly bird method lol but none of it is making any difference. I will try this and see what becomes of it. Throwing a putter that far is super impressive lol, thanks for the video. Time to get to work I guess. I’ll report back when I’m still stuck at 300ft lol 😂

[@DiscManiac28]

😂 I sure hope it makes a difference for you. if you do it right I can’t see how it wouldn’t help. It’s been great for me I couldn’t believe I was out driving a 303 ft hole with a putter. I’m still not were I wanna be but it’s been a great improvement, definitely let me know if it helps and get back with me. Would love to hear feedback

[@chuckholt5375]

Very helpful…. Thanks.

[@DiscManiac28]

Your Very welcome

[@ssskinner28]

When Simon is pulling the disc into the pocket the disc isnt horizontal its almost vertical

[@XJaylord]

Nice putter Throw. I have had all the exact thoughts as you about Mcbeth and Simon's pocket.

[@DiscManiac28]

Thanks, yea i was confused for so long on “ what am i missing??” I at least feel like I’ve found part of what I’ve been missing, lol 😂

[@XJaylord]

Threw my Luna 387' today. Tailwind but still my pb of all time.

[@DiscManiac28]

@@XJaylord that’s a smash with a putter, my pb ever was 348 flat ground and it blew my mind I got out that far with a putter. Either way that’s fantastic you got out to 387, props to you. Super cool! 😎

[@ScottSmith-vc5vf]

Thank you! I’ll work on this. I thought the pocket was farther forward too.

[@DiscManiac28]

I was always confused a little when I would practice and late release all the time until I stumbled upon it one day, it’s the way I see it anyways, not 100% if it’s correct but it appears to be that way for me, lol

[@justinmalone7095]

Thanks for the 💡 moment. I made the connection @13:50-13:57 in your video, Palm to the forehead commencing, if this works tomorrow of course...

[@ClimbTimeRC]

Bro this is groundbreaking and I am going to go throw 500 feet today. I've been collapsing the pocket forever.

[@DiscManiac28]

lol haha I hope you do, it would be super 😎

[@winstonsmith8082]

Thanks for the tip.

[@DiscManiac28]

Welcome

[@BLUMPKING69]

Guys, its a left handed baseball swing (RHBH.) High and outside.

[@donovanjamesiii]

If you hit Spacebar while watching a KZbin video you can use < and > (not shift buttoned) to move frame by frame

[@DiscManiac28]

Ok sweet, thanks I’ve been learning lol 😂

[@gerrylepage4573]

LOVE THE SHIRT BROTHER!!

[@DiscManiac28]

Thanks man, one of my favorites, it’s comfy and good message, lol 😂

[@gerrylepage4573]

@@DiscManiac28 Amen to both!!

[@btubbs00123]

Its been a while since I felt a video might be an Aha moment. This one though I feel has the potential to be big, cannot wait to try it out in the field.

[@DiscManiac28]

It was big for me and I think I was watching eagle throw and for some reason I caught it from the back angle and I noticed it where I felt the 💡 go off. If you do it right it’s a big difference. I hope you feel the difference. It’s a big difference when you can look a a hole and just focus on being accurate cause you know the power/distance is there with less effort then before. Have a good day and let me know if it works out for ya

[@miket8336]

What are you doing to initiate the "launch" after bringing it to your back shoulder?

[@calebbeckley9781]

Throwing "out" perhaps? 🤔

[@DiscManiac28]

Yea I rotate as fast as I can once disc is brought to my shoulder and push out at same time, if that makes since, l

[@atownlifestyle]

can you talk about feet placement plzz

[@DiscManiac28]

Oh yea gotta love good foot placement

[@coach_chris_taylor]

I’m glad you have realized where real speed comes from but your analogy of your ‘hand’ needing to go faster than your shoulders is slightly off. Your ‘upper arm’ (elbow) is what you want to focus on. It is called horizontal abduction and is more than 50% of the power to the disc. PS don’t use Paul or Simon as examples. Use GG, AB, Gannon, Hammes or the king-(Wiggins)

[@Tsukmu]

Could you elaborate a little more, why you don't recommend using Paul or Simon as an example? Is it because of the more pronounced elbow action from GG, AB etc.? Do you think Pauls and Simons form is more suboptimal?

[@atownlifestyle]

you better put that sticker back on now

[@DiscManiac28]

lol to late!!!

[@TheButlerNZ]

Nooooooooooooo read the fine print... "Warning: Removing this sticker will void your warranty"

[@DiscManiac28]

lol haha 😆 I always love your comments

[@TheButlerNZ]

@@DiscManiac28 I aim to please (when not aiming at trees)

[@KhufuhK]

wow you don't keep your stickers on your discs? Absolutely insane wtf

[@DiscManiac28]

lol haha

[@kripzzy6732]

I hope you didn't leave that sticker there on the ground

[@DiscManiac28]

Oh no, gotta keep the course in shape, not good to litter….. 🚮

[@davidkelly4269]

100% didnt make the first putt lol

[@arrowhead9027]

Right nice cut bro😂