Slugfest! H&N Slugs Tested in 7 Affordable PCPs and Break Barrels

It's a slugfest! This is the first of many videos testing out different slugs in multiple airguns. In this episode, Travis tests out three different H&N slugs in 7 different airguns: 5 PCPs and 2 break barrels. All of these are under $1000 and most of them are much less than that, so now we have a better idea of how slugs perform in guns that aren't extremely expensive, guns that most of us have and shoot.
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[@danhenry8557]

FPS on each would be helpful. Nice video all in all.

[@heithwatkins]

Thanks brother. Excellent information as always. God bless you.

[@airgundepot]

Thank you, glad you liked it!

[@ianprice2441]

Travis nice bag work💪🏻💪🏻!!! Good slug video thank you Air Gun Depot 👍👍👍

[@airgundepot]

Thanks!

[@steveescobedo1789]

Thanks for your time & shared information 👌

[@airgundepot]

You're welcome!

[@staccs89]

Great video but can you please do entry level.25 pcp’s with slugs nsa as wildcard if possible since I’m pretty sure with all the new affordable pcp’s on the market today I’m sure people are dying to know

[@airgundepot]

We're going to do NSA slugs in a future episode of Slugfest.

[@peterarecorejr2900]

Thank you for all the info excellent video I have subscribed ....

[@kisavracar]

Another great video,I will definitely try those slugs with my Diana 460 mag.

[@airgundepot]

Let us know how they work!

[@johnrambo1349]

Each test should have weight and speed on the screen for each gun.

[@airgundepot]

That's a good suggestion.

[@wadedeeds1738]

Best video you've done in my opinion. Thanks!

[@airgundepot]

Thank you!

[@anonymousbrown]

Thanks for including the Gauntlet. I think there has been a few people been wondering about slugs in this gun.

[@airgundepot]

You're welcome!

[@garynasrallah8710]

Great video thank you. I have the Condor 25 caliber SS I thought It was a very powerful gun good video keep boxing I didn't know you were so good.

[@bretlawson924]

Thanks for your efforts. Condor is impressive to say the least. My marauder pistol (Hill modified) + WAR 16" hammer forged barrel likes the FX hybrids, I may have to give these dudes a try. Only draw back (obvious in video too) is I am only getting about 700fps with it.

[@heathhalfhill6867]

Thank you for this information. I have been waiting for you to do this for a while. Very informative and interesting results.

[@airgundepot]

Thanks!

[@seanbrossard8178]

Apparently you missed the point about the whole idea of slugs they're more aerodynamic therefore they carry more energy down range so the very informative part is not they left us not knowing how much the energy was at muzzle and how much the energy was when it reached the target so how percentage-wise was lost verses what's lost with the a Diablo pellet that's what the whole deal of slugs is about and they failed to give us that information

[@theshootindutchman]

Love it! You could do these app day with each rifle that you sell😃👍!

[@dmann1209]

Great video and information. Your skits are refreshing and enjoyable. I miss the "Top Five" ....".Did I say Full Auto" simply fantastic.

[@airgundepot]

We've got more Top 5s in the pipeline. Thanks for watching!

[@HunterTom]

Nice Video Guys! Liked the intro Travis!

[@airgundepot]

Thanks Tom!

[@garypostell5268]

Awesome performance from the Condor !

[@deberryfh]

Great! Educational! Keep it up,

[@airgundepot]

Thanks, we will!

[@regsparkes6507]

Being a break barrel/spring fan,..I enjoyed this text,.I sure would like to see more springers tested,..Walther Terrus Benjamijn Trail NP etc. But thanks for what you have done here,..Good Stuff!

[@airgundepot]

When we test other lighter slugs we may bring in more break barrels.

[@rashidabdul-salaam9090]

Thanks for doing a slug video for us blue collar guys and nice speed bag skills!

[@airgundepot]

You're welcome, and thanks!

[@willwhite2310]

I use slugs in my Swarm magnum. 15-16 grain and man!!! They are deadly accurate!!!

[@airgundepot]

Awesome!

[@anthonymcgee8933]

What type/ brand of slugs are you using in the Magnum?

[@willwhite2310]

@@anthonymcgee8933 I brought mine from ebay can't remember the name of the seller. Just punch in "airgun slugs" in the search engine and it should pop right up.

[@anthonymcgee8933]

@@willwhite2310 Thank you very much!

[@KimchiJerry]

Well made video 👏 now my question is how do you know if your rifle can shoot slugs? Even though it’s the same caliber how do you know?

[@michaelleeman8372]

Nice Job and Thank You!

[@airgundepot]

Thanks!

[@orlandodiaz515]

Mi hatsan neutronstar love NSA .217 20.2 gm very accurate at 35 yard.

[@airgundepot]

We've had it shoot slugs extremely well before, it just didn't want to for the video.

[@richardcampbell5762]

Great video. Would love to see what the bull boss 22 does. Just for giggles.👍

[@airgundepot]

That's something we'd like to see also!

[@theshootindutchman]

Excellent! So many of us have been waiting for this for so long now!For those of us in America and other countries that can have fac rifles, slugs are the only way to go! They are humane, accurate, and most of all deadly! They are so far superior to a pellet in every way that, except for the price, there is not even a reason to use pellets any longer here in America. Yes, there is the issue of a situation where someone wants "limited penetration" or "limited flight time", but other than that, let's find out what EVERY RIFLE will do with slugs or hybrid slugs!!

[@airgundepot]

It's going to be interesting to see slugs become more mainstream!

[@lenweber7142]

Great truthful video!!! We've been tinkering with the lighter ones down to 14gr in. 22. Same results with our brocock snipers,,. At best just ok,,. Pellets still rock!!! Thanks Len and Teresa.

[@skeltonantonio]

Which slugs are 14gr?

[@lenweber7142]

@@skeltonantonio cbd from text off eBay.. the only slugs that do good have been the fx, at fifty 3/4" we are farm pesters so slugs really aren't for us,. Slugs just give us more to try, shoot and test, plus like he said they don't go fast enough to open anyway,,. The truth hasn't been expired totally yet lol,. Same as Hades. They don't expand for nothing part 25 yards they are as bad as jsb's for pass threws,. Just not safe

[@airgundepot]

Those are light slugs!

[@lenweber7142]

@@airgundepot The wide, Dad, and I just flew home from a great week Marathon of presting on Arizona.. I had a bunch of slugs sent to where we were staying so we could have our own slug test,,

[@lenweber7142]

@@airgundepot let's just say we are still very proud to be PELLET pesters, 😊 done blowing money on slugs lol,,

[@AirGunnerSA]

Nice video what i have noticed is that these slugs want speed to perform at its best. Thanks for the info its much appreciated

[@airgundepot]

That is absolutely right.

[@CobosDoesItAll]

Which speed would you suggest?

[@mypetvelociraptor]

Witch slugs work best with the hp ss + .30 cal. Looking for the best slugs for my gun

[@guestandsons]

Great video.

[@airgundepot]

Thanks!

[@gregwhittington5429]

Boxing skills very good 👍

[@L.V-Rider]

So what Gamo was it, a Magnum like said earlier in the video or a Maxxim like said to the end?

[@CharlieTalmadge]

I have a PCP. Uragan King. It loves the H&N 31gr Grizzly slugs. It hates the 26gr silver points.

[@saltyfry8688]

My new .25 Cal Air Arms S510 love's 28 - 36 Grain H&N Slugs 40-50 yards medium power stacking shots off my trucks door as a rest :)

[@carsmax]

Travis surprise us every day !! Nice right cross man :)

[@airgundepot]

Thanks!

[@CobosDoesItAll]

@@airgundepot how fast do you think the 21g would shoot out of my flashpup?

[@CobosDoesItAll]

@@airgundepot will these fire thru a choked barrel?

[@brandybrooks2123]

Thanks man

[@robertmorris2087]

Glad to see the airforce come out on top. They are tack drivers

[@shawndubay4050]

And very powerful. My go to for critter gittin. With it turned up and the right pellet or slug a well placed shot it will drop anything up to a coyote maybe wild hog at closer range fifty or sixty yards. They are tach drivers and hit very hard.

[@phillipmendiola2100]

Very good information , enjoyed the video 🎯 hey how about 25cal slug fest 🎯

[@airgundepot]

Coming up!

[@wizeminds799]

How about the .25 Guantlet what's the best hunting slug

[@lhasakivan]

Hey Airgun Depot... Where can I buy one of those Zbroia Hortizia? You don't sell them do you?

[@justinmochi7323]

Yes I needed this vid for my magnum

[@airgundepot]

We're glad!

[@FollowingGhost]

This is the type video I have been waiting for guns more people can afford not high end guns with tunes. The results were about what I expected not enough speed and power to achieve performance. I hope you do tests with the JSB slugs when they are available especially the 17 gr non lead.

[@jameshagerman7681]

All looked to be at least minute of squirrel or better to me. Are there pellets that can group better out of these guns, yes. Does this show that it's worth testing slugs through you're gun even if it's a lower price point gun? I say absolutely.

[@airgundepot]

We are definitely going to do another Slugfest review on the JSB slugs.

[@Laserwurks]

H&N 36 grain shot a .135 inch center to center ar 25 yards with average speed of 730 fps from my JTS Airacuda Standard pcp.

[@skinnymitchairgunbrotherho7152]

I got pretty good results in my My Gauntlet no mods with air velocity sport 25 Cal .217 with 30 32 34 grain I got one inch groups 61 yards 887 879 830 feet per second 34 grain opened up a little bit more than one inch I know if I increase my regulator output pressure I can definitely improve the accuracy like you said we need to get those slugs humming a little bit faster definitely going to talk to Stephen about trying out some .218 so glad you brought that up in the video man I love this sport so exciting thanks again see you on the flip side

[@airgundepot]

No, you're right, Mitch. As soon as I watched the video I realized I had to forgotten to mention the Gauntlet's barrel was not choked either.

[@airgundepot]

Good to hear your experience. The .25 Gauntlet has a bit more juice than the .22. so it should handle slugs a bit better.

[@rickrazz7136]

Thanks, would love for someone (other than the maker) to review the AVS cup base slugs.

[@airgundepot]

We've never had our hands on any.

[@davedavis3873]

My Umarex break barrel , Ruger Blackhawk Elite , in .177 cal., likes the polymer tipped non lead pellets when I put the seam in the same place every time . I put them in with the seam straight up and down , and can hold a dime group at 25 yds . I have no chrono to check speed , but , they sound hypersonic ...! Do you think that they will ever make slugs in .177 ??

[@airgundepot]

I doubt that H&N will, but I have no idea. NSA does though.

[@bronsonwisdom8094]

Think it would be safe to shoot 10.3 grain slugs out of a gamo swarm.magnum. 177 going around 950 to 1000 fps? I don't want to tear up my gun I just got it but I'd like to see how slugs would do

[@Videos-io3ll]

Is this the .22 cal Gauntlet in the test? Thanks for the great, informative video.

[@airgunsofidaho4886]

Yes. It's the. 22 cal.

[@OnlyTheVirtuous]

Just curious if you also used the .218 out of your Condor? I don't think you mention it. Thx

[@monkpato]

Yes, I believe I did try both calibers.

[@richardturner6981]

I just purchased a Crosman Shockwave .22. What size pellet would you recommend?

[@paloskeezy]

12 to 14 grain.

[@petercarden4847]

What diameter did the condor like

[@jimstewart5008]

I it's alot to ask but if you can try a Kral Jumbo or one of the Kral rifles. I would love to know what slug works well in .22 perhaps someone will see this and be able to suggest which one I should try.

[@airgundepot]

Maybe we can get one in on future Slugfest episodes.

[@Andrew-ut1yv]

Very interesting review, thank you for this. Off topic... Travis are you getting younger? Lately you seem to be going backwards in age! Keep up the hard work, seeing you getting into shape is inspiring. - Andrew in AZ

[@SPICY_BEAR]

Maybe he's related to Benjamin Button? 😲

[@airgundepot]

Thanks a lot!

[@desertairgunner3676]

Awesome review thank you.

[@airgundepot]

You're welcome!

[@gennaromassi5524]

Dude, badass dude, looking good hitting that bag!!

[@airgundepot]

Thanks!

[@derrickmitchell39dm]

😳😂🤣😂🤣 he almost look like he knows what he's doing 😂🤣

[@airgundepot]

Lol

[@jaydavis7122]

what is the best slug the 22. umarex origin uses ?

[@CharlieTalmadge]

I shoot the 31gr grizzlies out of my Uragan King and they are great, but I'm not sure of you have the same barrel.

[@bullbars1822]

Some probably should stay with pellets for accuracy.

[@gerritpretorius3428]

Is this new or seasons barrels, and will the grouping improve after a couple of shots

[@airgundepot]

A mix of both. Most were fairly new and might improve with a break-in period.

[@willieschoeman7843]

Do you think a gamo swarm maxxim. 22 5.5mm call can shoot slugs

[@EDCandLace]

Yes it will shoot lighter .217 slugs... .218 depending on your barrel and slug weight could cause you to have a stuck projectile. Try .217s first, 16 to 19g slug... Go to Ebay and there AVS, Griffin slugs are fantastic and they have some very light slugs... NSA makes some .217 17.5g slugs that would be worth a try. The thing is that you won't be pushing them very fast and the barrel has a low twist rate meaning the shorter the slug the better stability you will have. There's two ways to get a slug stable that's that's with a faster twist rate barrel or with speed (the faster it's pushed the faster it will spin in a given twist rate) . with break barrels you can't increase twist rate of course and you can't adjust power so that means the slug has to be short and light or you will have poor stability and accuracy. My TX200 MkIII .22 really loves Griffin deep hollow base .217 16 grain and shocked me at how well it shoots them but that is the ONLY slug it will shoot worth of darn. When i say it loves them i mean at 50y it's pellet of choice is JSB 15.89s (at 16.8ftlbs) and if i do my part it will put 10 in 1 to 1.25 inch all day long... The Griffin 16g will shoot under an inch at 50y ten shot groups consistently totally unbelievable that a spring gun is capable or sub inch at 50y ten shot groups with slugs... They out shoot the pellets consistently. Now they fall apart and start to group pretty wildly at around 80y and you will see tumbling by 90y... To give you an idea at 50y ten shot groups run a inch consistently at 75y ten shot groups will be 3 inches and by a 100 it's all over the place. Buy some light .217s and see, you may be shocked at the performance and i will say this... The 16g Griffin's are hell on pests even at 16ftlbs ME. That soft lead and gaping hollow cavity really opens up even at low energy levels... Want to see sparrows turn to a fluff of feathers? Push them at 950 to 1050fps from a pcp it's literally like watching a balloon filled with feathers pop and that's what it sounds like to. I would say if i was you to first try the 17.5g NSA slugs and if they shoot decently then buy a pack of the Griffin's 16s... The Griffins are much more costly then the NSA and if it's for target shooting then i would only get the NSA if they shoot well... The NSA preform well on game to BUT only at much higher energy levels then a break barrel the hollow cavity Griffin's will expand big time even at Break barrel energy levels. 400 NSA 17.5s cost 19 bucks, 100 Griffins cost 14 bucks...

[@tripleceas]

Which barrel on the Marauder? Or does the Synthetic only come with the crosman?

[@hotchihuahua1546]

I’m shooting my .25 marauder 1st generation @ 750 FPS with slugs , at 40 yards my groups are tighter over the Benjamin diabolo design pellets , the only thing you will notice is having to push the bolt action in harder to seat the slug before you can lock down the bolt ! I was using the FX slug .

[@HajimotoProductions]

Very nice bag work Travis.... Let the teasing begin.....LOL

[@airgundepot]

Thanks, lol. It began!

[@Jeeper1378]

What distance? Would be nice to know the speeds of each.

[@kurtfirestone2761]

Was the barrel in the maurader the Ben or lother

[@monkpato]

Standard Benjamin barrel.

[@ericbengford8401]

I have my Hatsan flash pup 22 cal tuned up. I'm shooting 29 grain H&N piledrivers at 800 fps. they are spot on at 50 yrds. pretty good at 100 after that not so much.. I'm shooting the fx 22 grain at 860 fps. They are much better at 100 yards and further. I would like to shoot them faster but that's all I can get out of my gun. I have some of these slugs ordered i can't wait to give them a try.. The piledrivers probably would shoot better if Amazon wouldn't have used my tins as hockey pucks.. lol at least thats what my tins looked like and the slugs inside were noticeably roughed up.. Thats not going to happen from Airgun Depot they are packaged very well..

[@Z28PAPI]

Thanks for that, I also own the .22 flashpup wood stock.

[@BadlndsBob]

Good info about the Amazon shipping and handling.

[@airgundepot]

Sorry to hear that about your pellets. Travis has pictures of tins of pellets ordered from Amazon that you wouldn't believe! Well, actually, it sounds like you might :( And you are right, we package these things like they are eggs!

[@cesarmuller8962]

How many shots you get in that speed? My Flash i have 41 joules in 150 bar pressure on regulator... 18 shots more or less....

[@derrickmitchell39dm]

Ok, I'm going to clean my barrel on my FX .357 and do another 5 to 6 shots and hope these HnN grizzlies do better. I'll even turn up the speed to max and hope for a better group.

[@CharlieTalmadge]

The grizzlies shoot fantastic in my .25 Uragan king.

[@derrickmitchell39dm]

@@CharlieTalmadge they seem to do better at higher fps.

[@windy33a]

Rocky Travis haha

[@airgundepot]

Basically ;)

[@ahmed232323able]

Do you think the HW80 is going to like those slugs? (18 foot pound)

[@EDCandLace]

They can, we have a couple spring guns that will shoot slugs well. Our HW97KT (19.5ftlbs with JSB 18.13s) shoots a couple slugs pretty good with the best being AVS .217 20g cup base at 17.2ftlbs. My husband and I are heavily in to PCP guns so we have pretty much every slug that you can think of so we can try them out in our spring guns without having to buy some just to try. We have a TX200 MKII and MKIII .22 and a Pro Sport .22 (our MKIII is a tack driver with slugs but the MKII and Pro Sport shoot everything we have tried really bad lol) a HW30 .22, HW97KT .22 and a Beeman R1 .22. And we have tried slugs in all of them and tried many many different slugs in each. What we have found is that the shorter the slug the better and .217 slugs almost always shoot better then .218s in all out guns. The TX200MKIII will shoot Griffin deep hollow base .217 16g slugs better at 50y then it shoots its fav pellet JSB 15.89s its consistently will put ten in 1 inch at 50y totally amazing. The R1 will shoot .217 17.5g slugs pretty dang good but really only out to 40y and they start to open up quickly beyond that but at 40 and in the groupings are impressive for a super mag Springer shooting slugs. The HW97KT is a laser with JSB 18.13s for a Springer it will put ten inside of 1.25 to 1.5 inch at 50y and is a sub 1 inch 10 shot gun at 40y it's not as accurate as my Air Arms Springers but damn close. It really likes the AVS cup base 20g and will push them to 17.2ftlbs. I will say this when shooting slugs out of springers the lock time is INCREASED in every single one we have shot them in.. Pellets start moving and leave the barrel faster then slugs so your form and follow thru better be on point when shooting slugs in springers or groups will be bad... Shooting slugs in springers has literally made us better shots PERIOD in powder burners, PCP and springers. The guns become far more hold sensitive due to that increased lock time (lock time as in from trigger pull to slug exiting muzzle). The HW97KT will print (if we do our part) 50y groups with the AVS slugs of about 2 inches for ten shots. Now the TX200MKIII is shooting a deep cup (more like a half pellet half slug time round / Hybrid) and happens to love that slug thats why it pretty much shoots it as accurate as it does pellets.. The HW97KT is shooting a true slug so the groups being 2 inches is really saying something because there is no drag stabilization with that slug vs the deep cup slug is some what drag stabilised as well as spin stabilized... The slug the HW shoots well is only being spin stabilized. What's really impressive about the AVS slugs in the KW97KT is that the groups don't totally fall apart past about 70y like the Deep cup slugs shot out the TX200MKIII. We have shot them at 100y out the HW97KT and 10 shot 100y groups are consistently under 5 inches... Yes i know that's 5moa and thats not good... Speaking from a pcp gun point of view yes that's terrible but from a Springer shooting slugs that's amazing... The TX200MKIII with the deep cup slugs totally falls apart after about 70y even tho it's shooting 1 inch groups at 50... By a 100 groups are over 15 inches and a lot key hole... The shallow cup based AVS slugs out the HK97KT stay stable over a 100y flight. Test some out.... Shooting heavier then about 22 grains is going to be a waste of time... Get some .217 slugs between 15 and 20 grains and see what happens i would almost bet you will find one that will shock you... Start with the .217 NSA 17.5 grain... 400 cost 18 bucks... I haven't had one springer that shoots the FX hybrids worth of crap even (they shoot lights out in pretty much every pcp we have shot them in) (Griffin slugs are where FX hybrids was designed IE rat sniper) and the reason is the weight not the design... The Griffin 16g will shoot decent to very well in a lot of springers.... In fact a friend shoots them in his box store Crosman F4 .22 and they shoot as good or better then pellets and thats not a one off. Length/weight is the most important thing.... The shorter the slug the better likelihood that lower powered guns and slow twist rate barrels will be able to stabilize it. Be careful with .218s in choked barrels as 15 to 18ftlb guns shooting even a 20g .218 slug has a good chance of not being able to get the slug past the choke... Lighter .217s are no problem...

[@eli9862]

Couldn’t get my marauder to group slugs, h and n and jsb knockouts.

[@Jb_outdooradventures]

seneca aspen. 25 what slugs would you recommend on me trying

[@KGisthename]

My buddy has has one and it likes these H&Ns ones. He had 2 different grains last time. It liked them both.

[@skinnymitchairgunbrotherho7152]

Great video love the slugfest but from what I understand the gauntlet is not choked I was 100% sure and now I'm not LOL now I need your confirmation please let me know 100% is the gauntlet choked or not PS remind me never to piss you off I would not want to be hit like that speed bag

[@aledjones1422]

Did you notice that you were using a rear bag with the PCP’S and just your elbows with the springer’s?

[@TTXDEADEYEXTT]

since springers like to move if you stop that the accuracy will go worse

[@LS1sLegoGarage]

Do you all know if you can use a .22lr bullet as a kinda slug I am aware it can damage the gun but would it work? And if so could you try it?

[@airgundepot]

The diameter is different.

[@LS1sLegoGarage]

Airgun Depot oh thanks for the info!!!!!!

[@LS1sLegoGarage]

@@airgundepot one more question though do you know whether I can get a polymer stock for the Benjamin discovery? Or if the the stock for the Maximus is interchangable with the discovery

[@Crete1943]

A .22 cal. Short rimfire projectile (29 grains), that has been slugged (passed through from the chamber and through the bore emerging at the muzzle of a .22 cal. barrel - preferably the one from which it will be shot afterwards), will work just like any other slug, if it is still undamaged after removed from a .22 Short with pliers and in perfect concentric condition after a careful slugging. A lot of work for no real advantage.

[@peterarecorejr2900]

Oh my air rifle is a gamo swarm maxxim .22

[@slowpokeairgunner4027]

Great vid, but AWWWWWW MAN, where's my Flashpup in this group, I need to see if I can find someone shooting them through one, it likes H&N pellets pretty well, I can get decent groups even out of the Grizzlys at 25 yards, but not so hot past say, 35 yards, but I've always heard the Condor is about the only gun that likes them. Still, I really like what I've been seeing with these slugs, not sure which ones to try, any idea what works in those barrels or do I need to do some measuring, I need to anyway but I'll take free info all day long, lol.

[@airgundepot]

Too many guns to test!

[@slowpokeairgunner4027]

@@airgundepot I get ya, I just had my hopes up it would be on the list, that's because I don't have too many guns, lol.

[@LoneWOLF-ku7mf]

Hea Pilot I see you have a Flash, is it the reg Flash or the Pup ?? I have the Pup & did a power tune on mine & right now it is shooting the 30.86 Barracudas@ 785-800 fps I had to get a Donny FL Moderator as it has some bark but with the Mod it is really quite. I tried the 30 gr Grizzly & they don't shoot well out of any of my 3 25 cal guns. Thinking on saving up & just getting an FX, I got some YouTub friends that do long-range shooting with slugs but they have FX guns.

[@slowpokeairgunner4027]

@@LoneWOLF-ku7mf Flashpup, I've had mine up to 80 fpe with Nielson slugs, it will go a little higher but I turned it down to 4.5 turns out and run it about 880, I think my first mag runs around 892 and the second averages around 880, it runs 30 shots before refilling it, but I like to refil after two mags. Mines the 25 cal, it likes the Air Arms 25.4 gr a little better than the JSB's, which is awesome because they're a few dollars cheaper.

[@Z28PAPI]

I have the flashpup .22 also. I did see youtube brothers in arms channel do some slug testing

[@chevyryda60]

Need those in 30cal!!!!

[@airgundepot]

Fingers crossed!

[@kenfan5666]

Hey Travis, Thanks for the great accuracy tests and performance in break barrels versus pcps. I was wondering if; 1. heavier slugs are quieter than pellets and 2. higher fpe than pellets 3. does the slug increase or decrease the range versus a pellet due to ballistic coefficient? The reason I'm asking is because I am curious to know which one would be better for humane hunting for medium size game like raccoons, possums, or turkeys. Thanks again. Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.

[@jesusmarinlopez9746]

A que distancia es esa prueba?

[@mattpie595]

35 Yards

[@anthonym801]

I notice you tried .218 on the gamo swarm magnum. I just ordered some NSA .217 to give it a shot.....should i even try it? Now im worried about damaging the barrel bc of diameter

[@morganyoder4277]

I have the same question. I'm hoping to get some more power out of my magnum, but I'm not sure what size to get. Also how did they end up working out?

[@anthonym801]

@@morganyoder4277 no bueno....grouped even worse than what you see here in the video after the first couple shots they went high and to the right so I locked the rifle into position and adjusted my crosshairs to the point on the splatterburst target.....they started doing the same thing in the opposite direction

[@morganyoder4277]

@@anthonym801 that's not good to hear, maybe i'll try the .2175s. My magnum has grouped 5 hades in a hole before at 25 yds, so I'm still optimistic.

[@anthonym801]

@@morganyoder4277 I tried those too same result....ill just wait for my replacement pump for the origin to get here and give it another go. Good news is at least they didn't cause any damage to my magnum bc it is and always will be my favorite

[@morganyoder4277]

@@anthonym801 I think I'll get a box of the .2175s just to try out, and hopefully they don't hate my gun. It'd be nice if they hit as hard as they're supposed to, I think the squirrels will feel the upgrade in power.

[@MiLsDoTs81]

👍👍👍

[@JV-ly2cq]

Nobody is going to talk about that intro ?

[@lhasakivan]

Hello AD... I'm a life long shooter but am coming upon new information as times and products change or evolve in pellet design. Now that I'm retired, I take up my time reloading & shooting centerfire, carbon arrows and now very cool looking pellets and slugs. I tried to look up answers for my questions on your Airgun Depot website but could not find an avenue. So, I ask my questions here if it is okay with Y'all. 1) Could you please break down what and why the .217 or .218 OD of each pellet is significant and how it effects performance? Is there a formula for shooting the .217 with a heavier slug or pellet feasable? Is shooting the .218 better with lighter slug or pellet? Does the slug need to "completely" contact the rifling lands? I'm guessing these numbers are for inside diameter for the .22 pellets or slugs. How the heck do they group these measurements at the factory? (sized batches?) 2) Slugs & Slugs... Can I shoot slugs out of my Parrus .177 barrel or 16 year old RWS 48 .22 barrel or 12 year old Diana 350 .22 rifles that have rifling rather a slug barrel? Do I need a different barrel for slugs? I really like the concept of the ballistic coeffiency in slugs down range, though it may be moot in a springer and more pertinent towards more powerful PCP's zipping down range. (?) 3) Does "swagging" (resizing for consistency) insititute better performance, I wonder are there dies for this that you sell? Can I use my very old RCBS swage tools? (pejoratively) 4) When are Y'all gonna offer more variety in slugs, will prices go down, will count quantities in tins go up ???? Your YT video is 1.5 years old as I'm viewing it in June 2021, so how much do things change in airgun technology in a year? Thanks A Lot... I look forward to your response and will share it to everyone. L. James

[@coreymoyers]

Wish you had a chronograph set up. I've noticed that slugs like a much higher fps than pellets but not sure if it's actually relative or not.

[@stedyone1090]

Slugs like more power to stabilize. Twist rate is a factor. Distance to target is a factor. They buck the wind better than pellets. Like me I dont hunt past 35 to 50 yards you get them to group and you're done. Ignore a flyer here and there. I shoot NSA, AVS, ratsnipers and FX slugs. I'm looking forward to testing H& N slugs.

[@airgundepot]

Yes, they do need higher fps to get spinning faster. Unlike pellets that are drag stabilized, slugs are only spin-stabilized, so they seldom shoot well at distance unless they are going over 800fps as a general rule.

[@coreymoyers]

Airgun Depot Awesome, I ordered some of the lighter eBay slugs yesterday because I suspected as such. Hope they do well at 100yards. The FX only hit 800fps and the gun is maxed out.

[@LoneWOLF-ku7mf]

@@airgundepot My reg Condor didn't like the grizzlies & it was throwing them well over 900 FPS but @ 50 yards was getting over 4-6 inch groups & was just too dangerous to shoot in my yard. I know these are different but still H&N brand but it seems like slugs aren't for many guns unless they are high end like the F X which guess will have to save up for at some point.

[@seanbrossard8178]

@@airgundepot that's the information you should've put out.

[@davidjones3465]

wonder where they got this idea for the video from. looks very familiar

[@airgundepot]

To whose video?

[@garypostell5268]

THE ASP SHOULD BE GOOD!

[@donaldotsig6818]

What distance are you shooting

[@Jingels3]

35yards is what he said

[@seyhmusaltunsoz3675]

Helo MEVRİK test yes tenku 👍

[@drewt.4353]

35 yards

[@SimplyRed66]

Why wasn't the same grain slug used ?? Inconclusive test 😏

[@seanbrossard8178]

I got to say it's my favorite video by you by far. Okay with slugs the whole idea is that they carry their energy further longer Downstream because they're more aerodynamic so really doesn't help us much when you shoot at 33 yards and don't carry the same information out to 50 + yards. Also it would have been helpful if you would have given us the the Diablo pellet that gun particularly likes against the Slugs to see how they are out at 50 + yards. I realize that you're trying to sell the sampler pack but it would have been really helpful to give us the slug size and weight that each gun liked seeing how you have those at your disposal. Also a link to a PDF file which each gun manufacturer slugs versus the the Diablo pellets that they like at distances and how big the sizes are or the the foot per second upon impact leaving an impact of target. I realize you're trying to sell slugs and the sampler pack would be the best bet for us to try out with each manufacturer because each of our barrels may not be tuned to the manufacture specs that you're using at current time. Although you're handsome young man really don't need a picture of you shooting every shot if you could speed that up a little bit it's nice cuz we can see the gun and that but you could also put up a picture of the slug 10 that it's coming out of and each shot string slow it down to a pause frame so we can see the shots during the average and again the leaving the barrel foot per second and impact at Target foot per second to see how much is lost that information by percentage or pounds would be really awesome. So again young man you have left us with more questions than you gave us answers and I think the whole idea is for you to sell pellets and give good information so please do your research edit and give us good information. You could give us by manufacturer so we can look it up on KZbin I know that's a lot of work for you but we could Zone in on that if you want to do a group because it would be nice for you to do like six or seven Karl manufacturers or 10 Hatsan products and yes split it out between Springer's and pcp's. I don't know who does your research on what we need to part with our cash for your videos but they need to be fired. Please try to get your videos down to 3 to 5 minutes. Can't tell you how mad I get when I am 7 or 8 minutes into one of your videos and find it a waist of my time because you have failed to supply the critical information needed to make an informed purchase from Airgun Depot which is a great company to do business with. If you need for me to send you a quick little video on how it's done let me know I'd be more than willing to send you a quick little 3 minute video. I really don't mean to be a hater but you know I'm your customer and I sure would like to get some information that I need to buy the products that you sell.

[@airgundepot]

We did give the size and weight of each slug that a particular gun liked. We don't really care whether you buy the sampler pack or not, we'd actually prefer if you just bought a bunch of different tins of slugs to try ;) but this is cheaper for you.

[@seanbrossard8178]

Yes you did give the diameter and weight and average Fps but were at barrel or target? The whole idea is to show how much energy at impact that is why at least 2 points of impact would give us the ability to see the benefits of slugs over Diablo. you danced around that 800fps or faster is needed to get most slugs to stabilize. What I wanted to know is the areonomic coefficient of the slug versus the Diablo. Something like for every 10 yards 2%(23fps) energy is shed on this slug but the Diablo sheds 8% so the Diablo may leave the barrel faster than the slug and be more or close to the same at a 30 yr target but a 50 yards the slug is traveling faster and retained more energy. Because slugs will start to destabilize and we would like to know about were that happens at. So the benefits of slugs for hunting or the affect of crosswind will only be affective for up to a certain distance. Get were i am coming from? Is it cost effective to purchase slugs if I can only get out 10 more yards accurately and gain 20% more impact damage if am hunting a 3 lbs. Target. Not very cost affective. But let's say that is a 45lbs target and high crosswind and I can't get within 30yrds for that opportunity to take the shot, than yes worth the expense. Or am I just trying to get sub 1" shots at 50yrds and the numbers work out than again yes I would pony up the cash. But your video gave us no way to make that calculation as there was no fps recorded at 2 different points of impact. that would give us the ability to get the maximum acceptable distance for our application. Now I know you get that most of your consumers are in the budget friendly range hence the topic of the video. So why don't you give the information we need to commit to this kind of purchase? Does it really hurts your profits that much to give us the information needed to narrow down our choices to get the things that will work in our guns as apposed to serval barely used tins in our arsenal? We're is the customer service and loyalty in that? I know your going to give me some flipped response and not consider a policy change here. Trust me it won't effect your bottom line in the big picture. I am assuming that competition from other companies is fears and you do spend time and money to make us loyal customers. So my bottom line is your writer is not a shooter or this is your business model and not a good one. I don't mean to be to be ungrateful or mean harted just and observations from a frustrated customer when it comes to travis videos. I very much enjoy the top five with Jacquard the writing and editing is spot on.

[@seanbrossard8178]

@Travis Patten no what I want to know and several others have comment on the foot per second that the slug is traveling when it leaves the barrel and what the foot per second it is traveling when it hits the target at two data points (30yrs,50yrds,100yrds) but the speed at 3 target ranges even better. And why don't you get why we would need the speed at impact? This is physics plain math. And why do you think I would want to know when the slug falls bellow 700fps? So I would be able to cauclate when the slug would destabilise hence the farthest it will travel with acceptable accuracy. So for someone who does this for a living I don't get why you don't understand why we would need this. All this is just a way for most gunners to calculate the aerodynamic coefficients of the slug verse the pellet. So if that is printed on the tin that is what I need. Have you done ballistic calculations before? So here the information you need to know in a nutshell. Aerodynamic coefficient, spin rate(rpm) and the foot per second the projectile leaves the barrel. Then you can calculate when the projectile will fall below the properties needed to maintain gyroscopic pression. That is the quick and dirty. There are other things that come into play like temp, humidity, elevation. The two pioneers for the physics of this are Bernoulli and Newton 1st & 3rd law. So the quick and easy way for us to get this information if let's say you said the slug left the gun at 920fps and at 100yrds it was going 820fps how much farther would it go before destabilizing? So with that you would say the accurate range would be 120 yards but probably could push that out to 150yrds with reasonable accuracy.

[@lcifermorningstar191]

@@seanbrossard8178 It sounds like you really know your stuff, But Jesus Effing Christ. Start Your Own KZbin channel.

[@jcozad3215]

Here's our needs: No “slide-blow-back”; both semi + full auto; pistol or rifles=without stock/butt; detachable sights; picatinny for red dot laser; .22 caliber or larger with heavy grain pellets or BBs; for power not speed with easy loading, with no extra magazines and easy “field stripping”. Threaded barrel for real good suppressor is a must! We already have your “Steel Storm” on order. Looks and replicas mean nothing. It’s “hard-core” basics please. No pressure! If you or any of your channel readers can help, that would be great! T.I.A. Do they make a Nitro Piston Air Pistol or Rifle fully automatic? At 83, seven Vietnam Veteran We know NOTHING about air guns. HELP! We can use an empty 3 car garage as an indoor range. Training for inside self-defense between 7 to 21 yards, stationary and moving.

[@Kevin-wy8kc]

you know those were all sold as new

[@marcnissen578]

That wouldn’t surprise me in the least I got a hatsan proxima from them last week and I opened the box and it looked like someone got in it before I did not gonna buy any more guns from them anymore pyramid air to me is a little bit better

[@staccs89]

I think you guys don’t like gamos cuz that’s shot group was rushed and unsteady

[@kendragon2827]

I think they should have used the .217, not the .218. I know this is old, but I will try the .217 in my hunter extreme pro

[@garypostell5268]

Not a fan of Gamo

[@ALLTHINGSAIRGUN]

OMG! We're getting naked now? I'm on it!

[@airgundepot]

Don't tease us like that!

[@BakerAirguns]

@@airgundepot Just you wait!

[@brianamuro2119]

I can't afford to buy a high end air gin, licker on a fixed income

[@rockyreynolds4027]

If Joe Rhea hasn't tested this out then I can't trust it the Cyclopes is the only channel to trust when it comes to air guns He is the guy with the eye patch because he shot his eye out with a Red Ryder

[@steveescobedo1789]

Love that guys channel, always st8 to the point with mo bs

[@steveescobedo1789]

*no

[@rockyreynolds4027]

Steve Escobedo he's a funny buzzard

[@airgundepot]

He definitely tells it like it is!

[@rockyreynolds4027]

Airgun Depot I enjoy your videos man me and Joe go way back so I have to keep my boy in the light

[@seanbrossard8178]

Hello shooters could you look at my first comment and see if u agree?