SM64 - Watch for Rolling Rocks - 1x A Presses [OUTDATED]

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• SM64 - Watch for Rolli...
I collect the star Watch for Rolling Rocks in Hazy Maze Cave using 1 A press. The A press is to do a hyper speed double jump up to the star from the underground lake.
This video is an improvement from my previous video in which I collected this star in 2 A presses. You can find that video here: • SM64 - Watch for Rolli... . To understand the improvement since then, we're going to need some background information:
Originally, Plush figured out we could accumulate hyper speed in the underground lake using hyper speed water sliding, which can be seen here: • SM64 - Metal-Head Mari... . This technique involved using Z to conserve horizontal speed out of water, and C^ to slide down steep slopes while gaining speed. Soon after this, I realized that with enough hyper speed, we could do a very high double jump all the way to the Watch for Rolling Rocks star [ • HMC Rolling Rocks usin... ]. Unfortunately, this technique required ~1500 horizontal speed, whereas hyper speed water sliding could only accumulate ~500 speed, and this was simply not enough [ • HMC Rolling Rocks usin... ]. All hope seemed lost, until today when Tyler Kehne discovered that hyper speed walking could be performed in the underground lake as well [ • [ABC] - Hyperspeed Wal... ]. With this technique, we could accumulate 1700+ hyper speed, which was more than enough to collect the Watch for Rolling Rocks star using 1 A press.
So how does hyper speed walking work? It involves a steep slope that descends into water. Normally, Mario wouldn't be able to stand on a slope this steep, but the shallow water gives the ground special properties that allows him to do so. Furthermore, if Mario tries to run uphill on this ground, he will end up running backwards at an increasingly fast rate. Usually, this walking can't be used to accumulate all that much speed, because (1) the slope runs out, (2) the slope connects to a wall at angle that isn't 90 degrees and so running backwards into it moves Mario either uphill or downhill, or (3) Mario gains too much speed and can no longer properly follow along the shallow water. Of course, all of this was already known. What wasn't known (and what Tyler discovered) was that the red wall stops Mario from moving while allowing his backwards speed to increase. With this observation, the Watch for Rolling Rocks strat became 100% doable.
ABC Playlist: • Super Mario 64 - A But...
ABC Routes: docs.google.com/document/d/1y...

[@tavoh3200]

These were simpler times

[@AlliroG98]

Shoutouts to simpler times

[@mightyboole]

LMAO that made my day

[@MinusNC]

and now, it is somehow simpler

[@brianpso]

That's an A press that I don't want to see go away. The message here is: "If you gotta press the A button, do it like a boss."

[@AmaranthRBY]

+brianpso Away it went, RIP one of the best A presses of the whole game 11/7/15 - 12/1/16

[@pannenkoek2012]

If we're talking about cool things being outdated, then I'm sad that the strat of the current Chip Off Whomp's Block [kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYvaqHSbotiVj7Mm40s] which makes use of hands free cloning will be replaced by this quicker method [kzbin.info/www/bejne/mH6Wf4aGlpWKmNE] which uses misalignments and vertical speed conservation.

[@AmaranthRBY]

pannenkoek2012 Well it doesn't save A presses, it's only quicker. So if you really wanted that in the run you could throw it in. :p

[@undergroundmonorail]

+brianpso the replacement strat is also really really cool though

[@minecraftportall337]

+brianpso Come on, parallel universes are pretty cool.

[@divesongmkwii1201]

well, we could do 1x a presses in 3 minutes or we could cut that in half and do .5x a presses in 13 hours

[@h_3795]

actually it's 25 hours

[@SomeOriginalChannelName]

No, 12, because he uses T1-T6 to avoid the 25 hours syncing speed

[@iwersonsch5131]

It's only 25 hours to the Secret Aquarium, and Timestoppa did it in 19.

[@lukediggle1723]

Iwer Sonsch no he used the tris on the slope to reduce it to 12 hours.

[@MudkipTheGodly]

A presses take priority over times. A .5x press 12 hour run is better than a smaller 1x press run.

[@jackyhk291]

1 A press: 4 minutes 0.5 A press: 12 hours 0.0 A press: ??

[@iwersonsch5131]

If we make use of vertical PU's, we might be able to do it in a reasonable number of months.

[@kazatraw707]

I wonder if there are any ways to do that in that level.

[@natnew32]

Scuttlebugs can use vertical PUs to travel between rooms (using BBH's method). Which means it may be possible to bounce on a bunch in a row, depending on how many exist in HMC. So far, this is the most promising 0x method. But even then, its viability is uncertain.

[@bounnhangvorachith2652]

If it scales up at the same rate it would take 90 days

[@sanaralerx9488]

Now it’s only about 5.7 hours or something, so that would mean that 0 a pressed would be 11-26 hours

[@NorseGodFimbulthulr1]

it's pretty amazing to see this and gain new appreciation for how much could go into removing half of a fucking a press.

[@uglybad4]

but first...

[@CASTCorp]

NorseGodFimbulthulr1 well, in a full game run that half a press rounds down to zero

[@Mark-xk3hh]

But an A press is an A press, you cant say its only a half

[@lipolpheskycesky174]

An A press actualy has 3 parts to it

[@andyli1890]

CAST Corp Well, actually: If you just keep pressing down the A button, that's an A hold. So an A press is pressing down then letting go of the A button. So basically: 1/2 of A press: Press down A Second 1/2 of A press: Let go of A So therefore, 1/2 of an A press is just holding down the A button

[@LetsBuildADalek]

He made this video before he was QPU aligned.

[@MariaNicolae]

Well, technically being in the main map is QPU aligned, since 0 is a multiple of 4.

[@lukediggle1723]

Timestoppa that's the joke

[@jongyon7192p]

Luke Diggle the joke is that he was being factually incorrect on purpose loool ...timestoppa's joke went over your head imo

[@Ne0MT]

henry "yoshi" gets off from this video

[@user-ef8kc4rv7n]

*TJ "Henry" Yoshi

[@ITAxSandro]

Holy shit that jump.... I wish I could do this when I go to work

[@PlushSM64]

wot

[@SkicoNow]

And then parallel universes happened.

[@1starwarz]

Mario 64 is such an amazing game. Almost 20 years old now and new glitches and strategies are still being found. Kudos.

[@GabeV12]

An "A" press is an "A" press, you can't say it's only...wait, what? You didn't do a half-A press? Oh...um...ok, then...

[@TylerKehne]

And they said Superman 64 sucked

[@urbanhawk1]

John Yorson Tower of the Wing Cap, Mario Wings to the Sky at Bomb-omb Battlefield, and Through the Jet Steam at dire dire docks....

[@xenosonic9x414]

Tyler Kehne Whaddaya mean?

[@wispy9859]

because mario = superman...GENIUS

[@alecsjoholm3970]

urbanhawk1 ...and The Manta Ray's Reward

[@mightyboole]

Ahh the good ol' times without people asking what a half a press is

[@natnew32]

I literally was not expecting this AT ALL. nice. Also you don't hear "The A press was to do a hyperspeed double-jump" every day.

[@nicholaswade6527]

are you fucking happy now tj Henry yoshi

[@Lugmillord]

This really is a jump to infinity and beyond. Great find!

[@computercat8694]

A jump to infinity would freeze the game or at least make _really_ _really_ bad things happen.

[@weebery1019]

BUT WE CAN JUMP TO PARALEL UNIVERSED

[@declanquintanilla6305]

The calm before the storm

[@LoogiTheDino]

It's not going to be long before this one is outdated...

[@want-diversecontent3887]

Luigi2012SM64 YOU SUCH PREDICTR

[@unreal-the-ethan]

You were right twice!

[@marcobonera838]

We have a time traveler here

[@denpadolt9242]

As much as I like the memes, this was probably the only A press I didn't want to see disappear.

[@martinepstein9826]

After all, I do build up speed for _TWO MINUTES_

[@teapartycthulu]

Now that's what I call a slam dunk! These just get crazier and crazier! Can't wait to see more!

[@Aktimoose]

When this video came out, I thought it was amazing. Then the 0.5x A press commentated video came out and I was like WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING

[@tymewiz806]

now to update the 30 remaining A presses video

[@pannenkoek2012]

tymewiz It's not doable this time! The previous method took 2 A presses, but this method replaced those with a _different_ A press! I'm thinking of just re-releasing it. But only after posting another video ;)

[@iwersonsch5131]

+pannenkoek2012 Great to see your reasonability explained. Of course, annotations are perfect as long as A presses are only being saved and not replaced. If we ever manage to use the Pedro Spot on the Random setting, it would probably be time for a new video.

[@ChafradorGaming]

An a press is an a press. You can't say it's only a half.

[@Pimpeaux]

WE CAN DO BETTER.

[@lCharles445l]

1:08 Uh oh... 1:18 Oh wow! That's a hell of a moon jump, great work!

[@-Jansen155]

I would love to see someone try to do this non-TAS! In fact, I'd love to see how much of these A press challenge vids are possible for a really skilled gamer to do.

[@angelcaru]

look up RTABC

[@vanderkarl3927]

FAKE didn't build up speed for 12 hours

[@renakunisaki]

*Dayum.* Did not expect that at all.

[@TheGael95]

It's time to sleep for me, then... a pannenkoek2012 video. Nice :)

[@HCBARLOW]

This guy is an absolute genius!

[@Allen1350]

No parallel universes? Wow, these WERE simpler days. :D

[@1ted59]

Who'd have thunk there would be two different hyperspeed methods in one cavern that were possible without pressing a?

[@chlorobyte]

seems unimprovable... *seems*...

[@PlushSM64]

Benedani *0.5x intensifies*

[@chlorobyte]

Plush still... if we want 0x 100%, we mustn't press A at all...

[@iwersonsch5131]

If we want 0x Any%, the only thing we gotta do is get off that fricken pole.

[@jamespointing8169]

We need to talk about parallel universes

[@Pokechu22]

This might be a dumb question, but how can you do a double jump with only one A press?

[@PooFaceMcButt]

Pretty late now, but you can double jump after simply falling onto the ground from any height that doesn't deal falling damage to you.

[@iwersonsch5131]

Or being in a Pedro Spot.

[@1ted59]

Cool! I'm glad that the hyperspeed walk was useful. Is it faster to use hyperspeed walking or the other method for the metal head Mario can move! star?

[@pannenkoek2012]

1ted59 I believe this method is faster

[@benbenwu6051]

top 10 prequels

[@Alexc99xd]

I saw you on the front page of reddit a week or two ago

[@pannenkoek2012]

Alexc99xd My AskReddit questions have made it to the front page like 3 times so far :)

[@Jack-yu8dc]

this is before it became a meme

[@Automat1cJack]

This is a side of SM64 I never knew about... and one I'm very interested in! =3

[@MarkSoupial]

What if you never let go of 'a' after the jump? Would that be half an 'a' press??

[@iwersonsch5131]

It does have a better looking camera angle than my route

[@NintendoNerd64]

"if you say we can do it in only 1 a press, well you are correct, but we can do a little better than that, we can do it in only half an a press"

[@luckerino5724]

Us: This video is only 1:39. Koek however later: Hold my beer.

[@PlushSM64]

*FINALLY*

[@pannenkoek2012]

Plush What do you mean finally? I uploaded this on the same day we figured it out. Don't act like you had to wait forever this time!

[@PlushSM64]

pannenkoek2012 I HAD TO WAIT FOREVER THIS TIME

[@MariaNicolae]

Plush and Pannenkoek are my OTP Kappa

[@lizarddude1000]

Not that you'd need to since it wouldn't save any A presses, but does this give you enough speed to get the A-Maze-ing Emergency Exit star too? Could be a cool alternative strat.

[@TylerKehne]

Michael Hicks that's the next improvement actually

[@ShadG]

Niiiice!

[@rogersasanka3408]

1:18 YEET!

[@drivingprune112]

"1x A Presses" haha hahahahahahaha

[@UltraHylia]

But first, we need to talk about parallel universes.

[@MrPyt1001]

nice

[@Bagface-dn1ul]

Would it work if you do a ZB Bounce?

[@TheHemphogChronic]

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn, you are a fucking Mario scientist, man.

[@EmanueleX]

top 10 moments before disasters

[@CeeSZee]

BOOM!

[@1ted59]

Cool

[@computercat8694]

So this is how it works? Make a strategy, completely remake it to save an A press.

[@iwersonsch5131]

And completely remake it to save a half. Yes.

[@Lucashallal]

And completely remake it for 0x. Yes

[@bobmario511]

LOL sick!

[@kkmac7247]

Bobmario? In 2015?

[@bcarri2014]

These were simpler days.

[@peddlercinematic7554]

excuse me, but would you mind if i post this video on a korean site?

[@user-vc5cs2eu7j]

but first, we need to talk about parallel universes.

[@MarioFan587YT]

We went from 2 and a half minutes to 13 and a half hours. We also removed half an a press.

[@MinusNC]

6 minutes now

[@jeffreyzilla]

I'm curious to the updated one, no clue how this could be done without a single A press. :o For now the video is private, but I hope everyone gets to see it soon. :D

[@pannenkoek2012]

Still writing the description, making annotations, and updating google doc. I'll release it soon though!

[@jeffreyzilla]

+pannenkoek2012 Oh, my apoligies, take your time. ^.^

[@TheVerseG]

Well now it's a meme.

[@Floirty]

you guys having any luck with BitFS, or do you think it's completely impossible?

[@natnew32]

Florent Gineste They don't know what to do next, but hope isn't lost yet.

[@Mattpoppybros]

***** There is one, and only one A press required to beat the minimum number of levels to beat the game. That A press is in Bowser in the Fire Sea. You have to press A to get off the pole. They'd have to find a way to get around touching the pole to get rid of that A press, as far as I know.

[@the0mini0prutt]

how about the pole glitch used in the 16 star WR?

[@natnew32]

We've been through this... we don't think it'll work b/c Mario needs the A button to do it.

[@pannenkoek2012]

Florent Gineste The big thing right now is trying to replicate this strange upwarp in TTC: www.twitch.tv/dota_teabag/c/2975430

[@eduardolarrymarinsilva76]

Do you recon if you can make an any% run any more efficient by using one of the many tricks known to skip star limits?

[@pannenkoek2012]

eduardo marin I don't know what you mean by "skip star limits"

[@chlorobyte]

pannenkoek2012 the one with endless stairs. he meant skip the 70 stars. no you can't do that. there is no water inside the castle.

[@eduardolarrymarinsilva76]

Benedani how many a presses wold it take to do it as usual?

[@chlorobyte]

eduardo marin 1 A press. For BitFS

[@eduardolarrymarinsilva76]

Benedani I mean the stairway glitch.

[@m93samman]

An a press is an a press. You can't save it by only a half.

[@neversimpgamingyt]

what it just fly?

[@LaAnkhaHuasa]

Presionar A es presionar A, no puedes decir que es solo la mitad.

[@colmenasio5542]

So no parallel universes? :(

[@switchpalacecorner]

... Well then

[@paytonsamuelsbackupchannel9353]

1:17/1:18 What the heck was that?

[@LieseFury]

de facto speed

[@NiceColdart]

He built up speed and he's using it to his advantage

[@galoomba5559]

He built up sliding speed on that slope at 1:00. Being in water conserves sliding speed which can be reactivated by sliding on the first frame when getting on land (usually by pressing Z). He uses Dorrie for that. A double jump's height scales based on Mario's speed, so if he has a lot of speed he'll jump very high. That's what happened there.

[@acacius7473]

Once again I have to say, how?

[@lukediggle1723]

But first, what is a parallel universe?

[@S4NSE]

wat

[@CocoaMix86]

How do you guys manage to find these gltiches/exploits?! They're so obscure and only found in a couple places

[@pannenkoek2012]

CocoaMix86 Well you'll have to ask Tyler Kehne on this one.

[@QwertyuiopThePie]

Found you. Again.

[@linkVIII]

If tas tricks were possible realtime and didn't require a ton of real time to do I'd actually enjoy playing sm64

[@S4NSE]

+linkviii you can speedrun even without tas tricks :0

[@linkVIII]

ardstsp but without tas tricks the game bores me

[@S4NSE]

linkviii xD then play with tas but it's funnier to watch it then to do it :D

[@ethanscott6547]

😮

[@notchmath9642]

Uh... Mr. Pannenkoek? I don't think that star was supposed to be collected that way. You broke the game, are you sure that is possible?

[@wBrianthepyro]

NotchMath Perfectly legit lol, if it's able to be done it's fair game

[@FUZxxl]

NotchMath You're not supposed to play this game without pressing A either, but somehow he manages to do so.

[@notchmath9642]

comment just for laughs.

[@Katurodrake]

What?!

[@Henrix1998]

I mean, this isn't ugly strategy either although it has 0.5 more a presses

[@secondianthiridian7716]

technically one more a press because it would be 1 a press saved in a full-game run

[@charlie_mario6292]

1:17 1:18

[@RCPlanes59]

How do you come up with this shit lol

[@notchmath9642]

**50% doable** XD

[@Jokar93]

NotchMath either you make it. Or you don´t :D

[@notchmath9642]

No: Improvement from 2 a press now 1, but description says it is now 100% doable.

[@minorpokebynosuke]

⁉︎

[@benplus1503]

No 0.5 a presses sooooooo outdated

[@t-mofisher8922]

"1x A press" BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@Willy5878]

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